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Attawapiskat reserve in Northern Ontario, Charlie Angus, Canadian aboriginals Attawapiskat chief Theresa Spence speaks during a press conference in Ottawa on Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) A Red Cross worker loads sleeping bags onto a trailer at the airport in Attawapiskat, Ont., Tuesday November 29, 2011. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Assembly of First Nations National Chief Shawn Atleo speaks with media during a news conference in Ottawa,Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. Grand Chief Stan Louttit appears on Canada AM, Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. A man walks down the street in Attawapiskat, Ont., Tuesday Nov. 29, 2011. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Grand Chief Stan Louttit appears on Canada AM, Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011.

Chiefs ask UN to weigh in on Attawapiskat

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CTV National News: Accusations fly both ways
There are still many people living in tents and plywood shacks with no insulation on the Attawapiskat First Nation. But the plight of the people is being overtaken by politics. Roger Smith reports.
CTV News Channel: Two sides need to talk
Charlie Angus an NDP MP says the federal government needs to sit down and come up with a solution together with the First Nations because the chief in Attawapiskat is actually doing a good job.
Extended: Aboriginal Affairs Minister takes questions
Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan attends a media availability, but only takes a limited number of questions, resulting in a confrontation with journalists.
Power Play: Former PM weighs in on crisis
Former prime minister Paul Martin says as the holidays approach, many in Attawapiskat will be freezing in their homes, and explains how the Kelowna accord could have prevented the crisis.
Power Play: First Nations leaders meet in Ottawa
Assembly of First Nations Ontario Regional Chief Angus Toulouse discusses developments and progress made at the First Nations leaders meeting in Ottawa.
Power Play: Feds and First Nations to meet
Mark Milke with the Fraser Institute says 57 per cent of First Nations people don't live on reserves, and explains it is because in most cases they are not working.
CTV News Channel: Theresa Spence, chief
Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence addresses media, saying the community doesn't need third-management; it needs action by fighting immediate needs. Spence says they don't have the resources to help anyone in crisis.
CTV News Channel: Officials react to decision
CTV's Merella Fernandez describes the tension in Attawapiskat after community leaders there turned away a federally-appointed third-party manager. Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan says the move is 'worrying' while Assembly of First Nations National Chief Shawn Atleo stands by the community.
CTV News Channel: Shawn Atleo on Attawapiskat
The Chief of the Assembly of First Nations speaks at a press conference, where he says the crisis in Attawapiskat is a moment of reckoning for Canada's relationship with First Nations.
Canada AM: Why the third party was rejected
Grand Chief Stan Louttit says officials of Attawapiskat want to sit with government officials to deal with the crisis, rather than having a third party come into the community. He explains how the third party is perceived as 'imposing an Indian agent on the First Nation.'

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Attawapiskat reserve in Northern Ontario, Charlie Angus, Canadian aboriginals Attawapiskat chief Theresa Spence speaks during a press conference in Ottawa on Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) A Red Cross worker loads sleeping bags onto a trailer at the airport in Attawapiskat, Ont., Tuesday November 29, 2011. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Assembly of First Nations National Chief Shawn Atleo speaks with media during a news conference in Ottawa,Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. Grand Chief Stan Louttit appears on Canada AM, Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. A man walks down the street in Attawapiskat, Ont., Tuesday Nov. 29, 2011. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Grand Chief Stan Louttit appears on Canada AM, Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011.

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What a shock - the "solution" proposed involves yet more money. This has not resolved anything thus far, and in fact has been mismanaged terribly. Why will this time be any different?

Steve T

Consultant in Attawapiskat unacceptable: grand chief

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Chiefs ask UN to weigh in on Attawapiskat

Date: Tue. Dec. 6 2011 6:39 PM ET

The Assembly of First Nations waded into the political firestorm over Attawapiskat on Tuesday, passing a unanimous resolution to ask the United Nations to monitor the federal government's response to a housing emergency on the reserve.

The chiefs asked the UN to appoint a "special rapporteur" to examine whether the Harper government is dealing with the crisis in a way that meets its obligations under Canadian and international treaties concerning First Nations people.

The declaration, which also calls on the federal and provincial governments to respond to communities in dire need, was added to the meeting's agenda at the last minute as the controversy over Attawapiskat grows.

The resolution asks Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan to cease imposing measures, such as the third-party manager it sent to Attawapiskat.

A spokesperson for Duncan said the government is committed to working with Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence and band council members on a solution to the housing crisis. However, chiefs were unanimous in their indignation over the government's response to the crisis on the reserve.

Assembly of First Nations Chief Shawn Atleo said Tuesday the only way to deal with problems such as Attawapiskat is to respect treaty rights between Ottawa and First Nations, saying natives have a reason to feel angry and betrayed.

"When I spoke with Chief Spence and leadership across the North, we discussed the urgent needs, but also that the way forward is based on respectful treaty implementation and an equitable share of resources from their land – not imposed, punitive, unilateral action," Atleo said at Tuesday's meeting.

Atleo said he stands beside the remote northern Ontario community's battle to force the federal government to deal with a housing shortage, calling it a "national disgrace."

"There is only one struggle, there is one agenda, and one goal: to build a better life for all our people based on our rights, our identity and, in fact, our very survival," Atleo said.

"And we must use every tool that we have."

Atleo is preparing for a summit of chiefs from across the country with Prime Minister Stephen Harper at the end of January.

He's suggested it may be a "moment of reckoning" between Ottawa and First Nations.

In Attawapiskat, Spence declared a state of emergency in late October stating families in her community face a winter in shacks that aren't insulated and without running water.

Last week, the federal government announced it would install a third-party manager to run the reserve's finances, something that angered Grand Chief Stan Louttit.

The manager was rejected by band councillors and left Monday.

Louttit said Tuesday that he objected to how quickly the third-party manager was sent to the community, without notice and without having a plan to help with the emergency.

"If they want to come in and be a third party manager, they would say okay community we'll work with you. Here's the plan, here's our budget, here's our schedule, here's the projects. This is how we'll do it, this is how it will be in the long term, and this is our goal in terms of making conditions in your community equal to any other Canadian in the country," Louttit said during a news conference he held with Spence.

"But no they just pop in…If they're going to come in and do something, have a plan. Where is their plan? We don't know."

Spence said the government's decision to appoint a third-party manager indicates there is more concern about the community's finances, which she said are laid bare in quarterly audits, than in the housing and health crises.

"Third party is not the solution here," Spence told reporters. "We're in crisis. And I've been saying that. We've been handling our financials within one year and we even got the deficit down. But the issue is not the deficit right now, it's the crisis. These people need health assessments right now, because a lot of them are sick."

Spence said she and the local council have been working on an emergency plan, including getting quotes and ordering materials for nearly half-a-dozen new homes.

She said she will seek legal advice, and ask her fellow chiefs, about next steps.

Former prime minister Paul Martin accused the federal government of engaging in "wedge politics" rather than face the crisis in Attawapiskat head on.

"This is discrimination and it's a failure to deal with what really is one of, if not the greatest, social problems we as a country face," Martin said Tuesday in an interview with CTV's Power Play.

He also criticized the Harper government for abandoning the $5 billion Kelowna Accord that Martin had hoped to establish between the provinces, the federal government and First Nations leaders. The accord was aimed at improving education, health care, housing, accountability and other issues.

"You're talking about human lives here. We're talking about people who, as Christmas approaches, are going to be freezing in those homes," Martin said. "As a country, and an incredibly wealthy country, we just can't allow that to happen. What is happening to these people is beyond the pale by any definition."

The NDP's Charlie Angus, whose riding includes the community, said Tuesday Ottawa is provoking a political showdown with Attawapiskat that is drawing attention away from the actual housing crisis.

Angus also questioned Duncan's claims Ottawa is sending supplies and emergency help to Attawapiskat - when the only extra supplies the Ontario MP has seen delivered were boxes of doughnuts the third-party manager brought with him when he arrived at the reserve.

Since then, the Canadian Red Cross has arrived in the community to deliver aid and to help keep people warm, properly clothed and fed. Louttit said the people living on the reserve are grateful for the assistance.

He said tens of millions of dollars are needed to build proper housing for residents of the reserve.

"The backlog of housing in our community is approximately 280 houses," he said.

"Multiply that by approximately $250,000 per house. Figure out the math."

But Mark Milke, Alberta director for the Fraser Institute, said neither discrimination nor a lack of money account for the problems in First Nations communities.

Milke said the communities are too remote to remain viable, and argues that the system to distribute funds must change.

"When you give money to the top and then ask them nicely to distribute it to the bottom, are you really surprised that it doesn't make it to the bottom? The victims are those who unfortunately sit on reserves and are subject to that sort of gamesmanship, which comes along with the way the institution is set up," Milke told Power Play. "This is an institutional flaw, and it's not going to be corrected by the way with more money, more control over natural resources."

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Tired of the freebies with no answers
said

I hope that the UN does step in and review Attawapiskat.In order to reach a definite answer as to if the Canadian Government has accted appropriately and supported the FN community with enough money, an audit will have to be completed.I am quite upset at Attawpiskat Chief and Council because an audit would have helped them immensely. It would have proven their point, should there have been no mismanagement of funds. If there were mismanagements, maybe hidden theft, then the answer would have came to light. A full audit is required in any business on a yearly basis. This is for the protection of everyone.As a taxpayer I hold my government fully accountable, I want to know where my money is spent and how. This includes Indian Affairs and FN communities. We have the right to know how the millions of dollars in handouts are being handled.


datatect
said

seems like most comments are inane, intolerant, irreal and even racist. this is exacerbated by the bungling, arrogant and backward policies of the Tories. first nations were wonderful stewards of lakes, forests, wildlife and air in canada for millenia. such a paradise lost by the dirty oil and crime of the Tories is a shame on Canada.


Wendy
said

I am astounded at the apparent mega funds that are given to native bands and the apparent lack of accountability and unwillingness to be accountable by some bands. If it were anybody else there would be all kinds of checks and balances that would catch the sometimes incestuous financial transactions within the bands and those who benefit from providing services to those bands.


MikefromQuebec
said

@Thomas. Sir, the "rednecks" of whom you speak so maliciously, are the hardworking people of Canada who, while perhaps under-informed, are absolutely right to want an accounting of the tax dollars that they are seeing so frivolously spent by people who don't do anything to earn it. If you want to sneer or look down your nose at anyone, you should start with the "enlightened crowd" such as yourself who see the solution to any problem as an opportunity to keep throwing money at it. Actually, you sound like a university student who is spouting the words of his liberal minded professor, but has never had an original thought in his life. These people need a real solution, not more money wasted on crooked municipal political types. Give me a solution that works and I'll happily pay for it. Throw away my hard earned tax dollars and I'll tend to be pretty rednecked.


Seeking Wolf
said

For those who are screaming racism; so you prefer to call me racist? I am a Canadian of aboriginal descent. I say there is somethign wrong here, and it is not with the federal government. So go ahead and call me racist. I do NOT support the chiefs on any of this nonsense.


Zoe
said

As a taxpayer, I have a right to know how these people are spending my ( and your ) money! They clearly have something to hide if they are turning people away at the door who have questions! Serious case of money mismanagement here on the part of the chiefs. I dont think they should be given another hand out without some kind of investigation done. I understand that people are suffering , but how do we know if more funding would fix it, or just magically disappear ?


D in Wpg
said

The "tough love" solution is to stop the handouts. Or give the money "owed" to the people directly to help them get set up "off reserve". Certainly don't give any more money to the chiefs: bunch of kleptocrats! Integration into general Canadian society is the only way to ensure that people can stand on their own two feet. Nobody should have special rights - we all have to make it on our own.


dieter from Ottawa
said

As Canadians we need to ensure we assist the people in need and in return they (the Band leaders) need to be held accountable for the millions of dollars of government money that is potential being misappropriated.


J.C.
said

Boy how all the chief's stick together now. Why they would consult the UN is beyond me. They haven't even had their meeting with the government in charge as yet. Also how come they waited all this time - years to confront the government. Why when times were good did they not push the issues then when the Liberals were in power all those years. Now when the world economy is on the edge they decide they want something done. Oh Mr. Angus and the NDP sure started something didn't they. Of course I don't think they give a damn about the regular taxpayers at all, only the NDP's political agenda. Why does the first nations believe the chief's should not be held accountable for the money given to each band? Why do they think there should not be a 3rd person to assist the bands with their finance management??? I wish the Canadian taxpayer could hear more from those on the reserves as to what is the truth about what is going on there. Why does Chief Spence, if she has nothing to hide worry about a 3rd party helping out there??


Helene
said

I repeat my earlier statement; this is a matter that should have been addressed by the First Nations' Chief, Shawn Atleo (and all his predecessors) together with the Chief of the town way before it became that critical.We all know there is winter in Canada's North; they knew that there are many buildings with out basic serveces, even the new Community / Healing Center has no water...how crazy can things get.Stop blaming everyone else...When in Ottawa the water supply does not function you fix it or call the town (city) hall.Why is there no individual action by the residents, do we need to hold their hands forever ?Chief Atleo, this is your job to get thigs done for your communities; stop playing politics and do what you where voted in for.


Mars
said

When half of the money they receive from the Federal government goes to salaries of the band council.. that is why nothing has been done for the people.Also by rejecting the third party manager to look over the books, proves they want to hide from Canadians how they spent this money.Other Canadians pay their way too and have to be accountable and so should they..


N. Donna Wise
said

To the community of AttawapiskatTeresa Spence,I am at this very moment watching your interview on CTV News. My heart goes out to you and your community. To have to defend your fiscal spending at this point of your crisis is unacceptable. The reporters should be asking 'WHAT DO YOU NEED AT THIS VERY MOMENT?' What a waste of valuable air time. Critism of your financial situation can wait until spring, or at the very least when every person in your community has an acceptable standard of living for a CANADIAN WINTER. I am only one person and I am asking 'WHAT DO YOU NEED AT THIS VERY MOMENT?' If I can help by mailing 1 blanket or a box of canned goods or socks... would that help? Your website gives only a telephone number and mailing address as contact information. I am using my fb page and email contacts in the hopes that this message is passed on to you. I would appreciate information for what is the fastest way to mail/ship a box of 'goods' to your community? I have a generous circle of friends that I'm sure would join in my effort to help ease just one person's life in your community if they just knew how to help. Donna Wise


peter in mb
said

So the chief and band counsel kicked out the Gov't-appointed 3ed party consultant. Obviously they have something to hide and need time to burn their paper work, files and documents. I can recall a similar incident in Manitoba over 10 years ago when the conservative opposition pressured the liberal government to do a 7 year audit on a bands spending that was known for corruption. A week before the auditors were to come a do their audit a mysterious fire happened in the band counsel office. All the filing cabinets were burnt and all documents inside were distorted in the fire. How covenant was that? its time to put the blame were its deserved. On the Chiefs and band counsel.


FCS
said

Yes I believe in the Natives being held accountable for the money they recieve. So obviously I'm a racist redneck. Is it possible for the left not to sound condescending, entitled and arrogant when they speak or is it involuntary ? I guess when you live in world where no one is personally responsible for anything they do then solutions, such as more money more money, are easy to come by.


Alan
said

It's a no brainer for the band if they care about their people.Open the books for all to see. If they've been spending the money properly, the federal government will look like incompetant fools and Harper will be in a big mess.However, I don't think the books will be opened for a public audit, and I think we all know why that's not going to happen.


Kevin in Alberta
said

Not sure what it is like out east, but in Alberta, if you want to do work on a reserve, even if it is just re-gravelling the roads, you have to hire natives. I have no problem with this, if, they would show up for work. 8 out of 10 days I had no workers. I was not allowed to hire my own crew to do the work. Therefore the work was not completed prompting the band to file complaints.It is this attitude of entitlement that is making the natives not only dependant on the Federal Government, but in the eyes of others they appear as weak, foolish and greedy.


Mel Blake
said

The Newfoundland and federal governments poured money into housing in Labrador and a few years later they were trash because people living in the houses had started tearing them up for firewood. Putting more cash into the reserve to build housing is putting good money after bad. Why did they reject the federal manager? It suggests something to hide. they need a forensic audit done on them to see what is going on. Do they want millions of dollars to be turned over to them with no oversight at all? If they were so good at running their affairs, why can they afford a hockey arena but not housing?


Bonnie
said

CMQ And I am one of ten hard working Canadians from a Millitary family but that doesn't give me the right to take from the HARD WORKING PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE BEFORE MEI know too that Immigrants get better treatment than the Native people do. And say what you want, your family was offered something to come to Canada. No immigrant comes here for nothing.Good for you, pat yourself on the back but you of all people should learn something of the past of your adopted country. Instead of just taking, try giving for a change. Quit the poor you, your family had a hand up, The Aboriginal people in Canada did not.


Coates
said

I just don't understand why they are waiting for the governments help. I don't see any government cheques coming to rebuild my house. It's time the first nations start looking out for themselves like everyone else in Canada. We've created a group of people that have become so dependant on the government that they have no skills, or money of their own. Time for us to see the strong, independant first nations people we've heard about just never seen.


Jen
said

This proves there is something wrong going on with the chief and the band members about mismanagement of funds that they don't want the Feds to find out. It is time to scrape the treaties and get these people of their asses and out to work then they'll know what the rest of us have to do to survive. If they don't want to do this let them starve a slow death.


Thomas
said

Interesting how stories having to do with Aboriginals on the news sites in Canada are left wide open for comments and a lot of redneck racial slurs come through loud and clear, so much so, it about makes you disgusted to even be a Canadian. If the story was say about muslims or islam, no comments allowed. That speaks volumes in terms of who is running this country people and the media outlets thereof, it is the evil and perverted thoughts, understanding and dictates of the left wing, liberal minded, political correct, marxist/socialist pigs I suspect. Even our right wing leaders succumb to this horrid bunch.


Prof Sine Curve
said

I think canadians are kind and generous people who will gladly help someone else in need. In our community, if a house fire or other sudden disaster occurs, neighbors will rally to help the people get back on their feet. If an earthquake or tsunami occurs somewhere in the world we open our wallets and help out. What has happened on these reserves though is different. They are inhabited by people who are very capable but due to govt practices have always been paid whether they work or not and have just become sluggards. Their problem is not sudden or acute. It's become permanent. And the patience of other hard working Canadians, including off-reserve natives, has started to run out. In the book of Proverbs in the bible, sluggards are clearly described as are the methods to help them. The NDP ideas and demands are clearly anti those directions and thus would only prolong the problem which is devastating those people and their children.


ArchersRequest
said

This is ridiculous, if we had a govt that respected first nation treaty rights this would not have happened in the first p;lace. Also, Conservatives talk about Accountability, but then look who is talking now.A govt that does not know where the $$$ went, and how it was spent. Such a shame this is happening in our own Country.


robin hood
said

A lot of you need to pull the cotton out of your ears and throw away the record recording of “my tax dollars” and listen closely. When 1st nations have their voices heard by our government then and only then will the rest of us be heard therefore we must back our brothers and sisters and speak with one voice. If you want to avoid further erosions of our rights, gaining back what we have lost we must stand up and fight for them together. It’s not like we can’t identify with our first people’s plight we are all headed down the same path. 1St nations are looking for cooperation, effective ideas in addressing the problems and finding workable solutions to halt and reverse the corrosion of an entire people without pointing fingers. We have nothing more to lose and everything to gain by standing united. Our government is deaf dumb and blind to us for exactly what, free trade! Have we allowed our government to sink so low that human life has lost all value? Those of you who back our governments lies, broken promises, mismanagement of our affairs and cover ups by shrugging your shoulders exclaiming “oh well they’re politicians” “they’re corrupt” “they’re all the same” are merely talking heads who need to hold their tongues you have nothing of value to add. You’re so wrapped up in your daily lives that you can’t see the traps being set. I have children in this world and I want them to have a future. It’s said that we have an increased in life expectancy, really? Our government should be able to chisel away at that with the state of our health care, environmental issues, instability and safety when it comes to low paying part time jobs in short order. Take a look around our children are dying before we do; our parents are unable to cover the cost of their needs in their golden years. RRSP are great till the time comes to use them, try having a conversation with someone doing that now! People are dying, infrastructures are crumbling due to their inadequacies and they don’t care! It kind of makes you wonder what’s really going on and who and what are those in power working toward and for whom? It’s not us. We had better start caring together!


brenda from Thunder Bay
said

Once again I say, "An audit by an unbiased, unrelated, and unconnected accountant will determine if a 3rd party manager is what is needed." And I do mean unconnected to Attiwapiskat and to the Federal Government. Steven Harper put the cart before the horse on this one. Start with the audit. Fix any errors/omissions and get on with the future. Chief Atleo you need math lessons too.


Lisa
said

The Government should call upon the leaders of "successful" First Nations Bands to get involved in the management of any future funds for Attawapiskat.

I really like that alternative!!!! If FN doesn't want 3rd party intervention, then this is a grand alternative!!!


Mea
said

Why are these so called "poor" reserves repeatedly asking or handouts from the government, but they don't seem to be asking the rich reserves to help fund they're spending habits. Oh, maybe because, they'd let them freeze or starve for being so wasteful.I DO NOT support funding to native reserves. I could care less about a treaty that was signed prior to my birth. They should get a job and work like an equal member of society, or live in poverty at they're own choice. They're ancestors could survive, why cant they without handouts. That's why the treaty was signed: assimilate or live as you previously did. They've chosen to waste the cash that I work 6 days a week to pay in taxes.I have met many Natives who agree. It is embarrassing for hard working Natives to see this.


Vince
said

I have been involved in construction of housing on a reserve near Edmonton. The material used was top rate, for example, $30 a gall paint. The work was done to code. Here is the problem... It is the Chief and Council who decide who gets what house. It is often their relatives who get the new houses. Once there the houses are never looked after. I have been back after 6 months to see broken windows not repaired and water moulding the walls where the rain gets in. Doors kicked in and not fixed. Wiring pulled out. Toilets blocked and never cleared. I have seen a new house with an old car crashed into one corner and no one fixing the damage. When the people living in the house don't own it, don't pay rent or utilities, don't pay insurance or property tax and know when a newer one is put up they can swap for that one then there is no incentive to look after things. I give the average house on a reserve maybe two or three years and it is unlivable. And all the time it is paid for by the tax payer while people tell us "respect our ways".


Debbie
said

I agree with 99% of these comments. It is time for the native peope to take accountablity for themselves. I am a working tax payer for the last 38 years. I pay for my children's education and university. I pay TAXES for everything the government could possibly tax. I am soooo tired of giving money away. Do these people need help. Yes, but not by giving them $70K a year tax free to each family (as the papers state).....A third party (if the government chooses an accountable agency) is the best solution. But let's ensure the third party is a reputable one and holds people accountable.



john messom creston bc
said

why wont the chief of attawapiskat allowed the government to put in a third party manager to check over their finace and also ndp charlie angus what are they trying to hide that they dont want the government to see where the 90 million dollar went there is something funny about this if they wont allowed a third party manager from the government to come in and check over their book then that means that they dont need any help i would not give them any more of our tax payer unless they allowed the government to check their book yes canadian tax payer money that where the money is coming from and we have the right to know where the money went


Gary Cerantola
said

Notwithstanding that we should care for these people immediately, we as taxpayers have a right to know where this $90 Million went to over these years on an immediate basis. Let's dispense with the rhetoric and the victim mentality and get down to accountability and transparency and solve the problem


Jim McB
said

The headline is most appropriate. It is easy to lead when you stand behind someone.There is no leadership, that is the problem. There are demand for money and a resistance to explaining millions that are missing. This whole situation will never pass the smell test, unless you are an NDP MP trying to make hay on the back of other people's problems - right Charlie?


Donald
said

Being part native and seeing the repeated ineptness of these native bands in the handling of the funds, and then refusing to accept help from the Government by kicking out the person designated to allocate these funds properly is hard to swallow! The whole Indian Act has to be done away with and these people have to learn to fend for themselves! If they have no means of employment in their settlements, then these settlements should be shut down and the inhabitants moved south where they can work and have proper housing!! I'm tired of these people leaching off our hard earned taxes!!!


BL
said

The Indians are not bleeding you dry Canada. That is happening somewhere else. If you took the time to learn about this matter you would find that First Nations are chronically underfunded and have been for decades. If you've never been to Indian Land, you don't have to go far - you're standing on it.


Raj
said

I am watching this on CTV news right now They want to contact the UN. They dont want a third party, they have a plan? I think if they are not careful, this will backfire on them. They dont want to open their books , why? why? Something is fishy, they said they have doe well in the past 18 months if that is right, why does it look like it does. If this is all cleaned up, then what? Spence and the other chief have no plan at all, but they wont let the third party in to deal with all this! thanks to CTV for the questions, Spence is not answering them


Proud Albertan
said

For those of you saying shame on Canada for letting this happen to these people you’re kidding me right? The government honours its half of the deal and pays the money to the natives and they stay out of what they do with it afterwards (as per the Natives request) So what is happening now is completely on them! Not the Canadian government! We did our part! Now they want MORE! Also for those of you who say that 90 million isn’t enough give your head a shake there are towns all over the country with bigger populations that work on smaller budgets! do you see them declaring states of emergency? If they want help fine help them but then WE get oversight of there finances and WE determine where they go obviously they don’t have the capacity to do so


Acorn127
said

I worked on a reserve part time for two years, the band council does waste money. If members of the band did not agree with the council they got less money. The council members were very well off while the rest of the band members suffered. Turn off the money tap, or better still give me $70,000 a year so I can sit around doing nothing and complain when it gets cold. The chief and band council, in this case should be stripped of thier powers and the replaced on an interm basis by other members of the band!!!!! I feel sorry for the members of this band who are suffering, but not the FEDS fault, the chief and council are to blame for this situation. By the way stop being afraid of the Warriors, Native Mafia, I have seen them in action on a reserve. Guns, drugs etc. they run it all!!


joe
said

I don't have the space or time to give a history lesson, but when a government enforces their policy and religion, language, way of life on another society, they better dang well take the resposibilty. Our Canadian/British government helped create this monster, now we have to feed it.Please look at this issue from all angles responders, and don't just blame the First Nations of this country for all our debt and mismanagement of tax dollars. Our own government has mismanaged way more than this internally I would bet.


peter in mb
said

So the chief and band console kicked out the Gov't-appointed 3ed party consultant. Obviously they have something to hide and need time to burn their paper work, files and documents. I say Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan's should cut off all their funding until they let the 3ed party consultant back in to see how they are spending our tax dollars.


Steve Hall
said

I think this is a case of two (or more) wrongs don't make a right. Yes we do need to make sure more is being done to effectively advance the living conditions for a number of first nations people and yes we do need to take some immediate action to help the people of Attawapiskat. However the fact that we have perhaps not addressed these issues well in the past, does not provide justification for not having a thorough independent audit of what has happened to the $90M dollars. If it has been well managed and well spent this should be a relatively quick an inexpensive process and will quickly highlight the need for more funding which can hopefully alleviate the problem. Conversely, if the funds have been mismanaged and misappropriated we need to know this as well to ensure that future monies that are expended are used effectively to solve this deplorable situation. To my mind all the rhetoric about using an independent auditor etc is a red herring. I own my own business. If I am provided money by the government a bank a client I am expected to account for its use and can be subject to audit. If all things are above board an audit should only serve to validate your claims .... All this rhetoric and resistance does is add Fuel to the fire that things are not right.


Dennis L. Krahn
said

Bonnie/dante: Give us all a number of dollars that would compensate for past wrongs so that this bleeding of our tax money can stop. There must come a point where the debt is paid and the past wrongs are corrected.


no hope
said

Ouch, seeing all the negativity makes me wish I would talk to these people, bring them here, and just show them everything, I have been writing to my band for years trying to get a place of my own for my growing little family, even when we got a new subdivision and 30 new houses,I still did not get one, My application is in there somewhere along with the 300 something applications, the house im staying in is over 30 years old. I would move I guess, I just wish I was working and had the funds, maybe I could find work at the Debeers mine, but you have to get out of town and fly there, stay there for 2 weeks, come home for two weeks, fly out again for two weeks, ughh thats too much, plus I cant stay away from my kids that long.


AC in NB
said

How's that saying go " Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is a sign of insanity"? Well guess what? this is becoming INSANE. And @Erk, it does seem to be an us against them attitude, and guess what, it was the FN's choice. If it was up to all non FN people in Canada, we would all be equal. As far as I'm concerned, people who contibute to society and pay taxes are not equal to those that don't. Just sayin.


Rob, Ontario
said

The pictures on TV showed the interior of houses that were in horrible condition with parts of walls missing exposing bare studs etc. The question that comes to mind is how did these houses get that way. It does not look like natural deterioration. It seems when people get something (everything) for nothing they have no respect for it. Perhaps if they had to earn the money and pay for things they would be in a better situation.


AIRCOR
said

There are a lot of families hurting across Canada these days. Unemployment is high, haves are becoming have nots. I ponder what help natives would be to non-natives if they saw the situation reversed in their communities. We have given till it hurts, would they give at all?
The national disgrace is the constant pressure on the dole that is exerted on all of us to look after people who will not attempt to look after themselves. How much of our hard earned dollars, and I mean our personal tax dollar goes to support this 6% of the population who do nothing to help themselves, but ask for more, and perform civil disobedience.
I say, Six Nations, stand up for your identity, stand up for your rights, survival is for the fittest, get fit! Quit sucking us dry!


Kathy
said

While I understand where many of you are coming from, and feel that they need to be held accountable, this is detracting from the situation that people are living in horrific conditions right here in Canada. If it was any other country, I am sure many of you would be saddened by the pictures and the reality of the situation. Do I know where the money was spent? Absolutely not. Do I see people in need. Yes. Even if there was misused funds, is it really necessary to punish an entire community, including children who you can not possibly put blame on, by condeming them to live in condtions many of you wouldn't even put your dogs in?


CMQ
said

@Bonnie: I come from 2 different cultures where my familes were conquered people. They too were used and abused by their conquerers and never given a cent. To this end they lived in poverty while their overlords lived in wealth. In 1858 my great grand parents came to Canada and built a life for themselves. They did not receive any grants nor monies to do so. In my family there are 7 children. All of us have worked all of our lives and only 2 of us ever received E.I. once in our lifetimes and we are both close to 50 years old. In both cases it was because we lost our jobs because companies closed. I'm sorry but this "history" lesson does not set well with me because most if not all nations at some point or another have been conquered and ill-used. To say this is the reason not to thrive is to say someone is powerless to live and thrive. That is not the case as 4 going on 5 and 6 generations in my family have proven true and we live all across this great nation. Time to stop playing the victim card here and take destiny into your own hands.


Helen - Ontario
said

It is time for Canada and Canadian laws to take over all the native territories. Of course, Chief Atleo supports this chief, why would he not? This is his bread and butter. Premier MgGuinty needs a dose of testosterone to take Ontario in hand instead of his practice of giving a parcel of our Ontario land to a ruthless band of native 'warriors' and making eunochs of our police forces.The time is now to flex our muscles with the backing of our laws and not succumbing to ancient, tribal laws.


Steve Baxter
said

Of course the chiefs want to get together to oppose all the accountability which they have little
This is caused by nepotism, poor money management and corruption,show the homes of the chiefs and the counselors I'll bet they are not in the same condition am not just condemning the native population but ALL corrupt officials that hold power and benefit from this power while the people they are in charge of supplying proper living conditions suffer. Show where the millions go ?? Let there be some accountability on the chiefs. My 5 years on a reservation shocked me Believe me when I say there are MANY things which can be done to improve living conditions on reservations and most of them do not involve throwing money into the chiefs budget


Harold
said

Its fine to want to deal with the issues,and i agree they should be dealt with in a proper and organized manner, but when someone else is providing the money they have the right to know that the money is being spent properly on what it is being provided for.A few yrs back in Winnipeg a health care center for natives was being funded with Fed. funds and it turned out the head of that center and few other other people who worked there who collected nice salaries were taking themselves and their families on nice cruises down south in the middle of winter. So i wonder why the Feds would want to oversee the spending of these funds.


observer99
said

If the money was "properly managed", why is there a problem? It is obvious to anyone with any experience that the money went to the "aboriginal industry" and was siphoned off to make a few people wealthy at the expense of the community. It happens all over Canada and Australia, two places where I have lived and where I have witnessed it. Shut the industry down and the problem will go away.


Mike in Quebec
said

Some fallacies.
The natives get free money.
Not true. The natives owned all the Public Domain land in Canada and agreed to give up the administration (but not the rights) to the Federal Government. In return the government was "supposed" to share the revenue and consult with the natives for distribution. The money they get is their share of the revenues, and now is a pitance of what they were supposed to get. Yes, it is a shame that 92 million for housing disappeared into somebody's pockets. Yes, there should be oversight committees for these funds, run by natives and accountable to both the Federal Government and the native community. Don't think the natives are getting "free" money.


Thomas
said

I can't believe the racist and naive comments the stories of Aboriginals bring out in Canada. I see the backward foolish rednecks are alive in well in Canada. The issues are to complex and would take to much to address on here but, suffice it to say, there were agreements between Aboriginals and the Canadian government that are not always upheld, in addition, and one against Aboriginals, Aboriginals often elect the wrong people and hire the wrong employees to work with those wrong leaders (in both cases, I would like to see a system of merit introduce, rather than I know you and I am popular, even though I don't have a background for the work). Unfortunately, Aboriginals can't win with the rednecks no matter what they do so why bother trying to live to please such fools. Often you can tell the redneck commenter's on here before they even spout their evil racist garbage, they start with terms like "native" or "Indians" and it usually goes down hill from there. Canada has a disease, two actually, if it isn't left wingers poisoning our waters (thoughts) with stupidity, it is rednecks, one is as bad as the other and will be the death of our great nation if we are not careful.


Jerry
said

The media reports they were given 90-96 million since 2006? I would like to know where the accountibility is? The Chief should be ashamed at gettting this type of cash and the state that reserve is in. The Canadian tax payer has done their part, now it is time for the Chief et all to do their part. I feel sorry for the residents of Attawapiskat.


Werner
said

I need a Free House and guaranteed income without hassle and 3rd party looking into my affairs! And I will refuse to look after my House and let it fall apart and then declare an emergency! Yup, way to go and make lots of children so I can get more Money for a new Truck and Boat, fishing gear, and whatever I want and let my kids live in squalor while i live the good live! Darn Government pay up! I want it all NOW!



DJ
said

I am curious if non-reserve northern communities have the same issues and if they do why do we never hear about it?


MARG MM
said

If the Chiefs had let the third party consultant stay and monitor the books, they would have had a lot more credibility and respect from non-native Canadians. By "throwing" the consultant out, they obviously have something to hide, and have now lost all credibility. It is a very unfortunate situation and it seems that some of the people living on the reserves know there is a problem with where the money is spent, but don't feel they can come forward. It is too bad that a news team can't or won't do a throrough investigation as to living conditions of the Chief and band council, thus showing all aspects of "life on the reserve" and not just focus on the squalor of a few homes. CTV's Danielle Hamnajin(not sure of the spelling) did a good report, and was able to question the Chief on a "trip" she and her daughter and some council members took to Toronto to the tune of over $8000.00, At first the Chief denied it but when shown documents, she had to admit to it. There is obviously waste, so the only reason not to let an outsider look into it would be that there is a lot to hide. There are some very successful reserves in Canada. These are the ones where the Chiefs look after their people, start businesses and provide jobs, so it can be done, although the location of this one would make it more difficult I suppose. To elder......this "problem" is not just a Conservative one, the Liberals were in power for many more years, and did nothing but throw money and turn a blind eye. To steve.....If we lived under a dictatorship, you would not be able to spew out your hateful Harper messages on every topic.


KC BC
said

This has become a very stinky issue ! The obvious difference of opinion seems very skewed to accountability and transparency of monies granted and spent. I totally agree with those who think the Canadian people have a right to know how their dollars are spent. There sure appears to be an attempt to deflect any questions about "the books' to charges of racism and the need to fix the emergency by an uncaring government with No questions asked. How is it racist to ask for a proper accounting? The press coverage,actions of the NDP, and the local government actions are very divisive. This is causing a lot of disgust . As for those who feel excessive guilt , please send gifts of $5000 or more to the local government . They will not mind and you can feel good about yourselves!


Andre
said

In 2010, the average Canadian family paid $28,000 in taxes. If each family in the reserve received $70,000 last year, it means that it takes 2.5 Canadian families to support each family on the reserve.And the chief doesn't really like the fact that Canadian want accountability??? Well, sorry chief but I, for one, would really like to know how you are spending the hard-earned money of 2.5 families and yet leave native families live in abject poverty. And I want accountability. And if that is not acceptable to you, then perhaps you should forfeit this money and find ways for natives to be self-supporting. You simply cannot have it both ways. It is a matter of fairness.


William
said

Sick and tired of sending taxpayers money without accountability. I don't care who or what communities be it black, white or native, their has to be accountability attached to these taxpayer funds. Look at the bands own documents and you with see that they need to set priorities. 90 plus million since 2006. Built a school on a diesel site than abandoned. Built a quality hockey rink, new vehicles, and on top of this over 11,000,000.00 in salaries. Look through their own report and you will see that housing has been vastly neglected. Btw, the diamond mine company has spent in excess of 50 million improving their community as well. The federal is bang on in asking for justification of their spending needs.


Peter in Kingsburg
said

@att man thank you for revealing a portion of the other side. If there is nothing to hide then the books are good and everyone is happy and we move on. Denying the access to the books means there is something major askew. I encourage you to continue writing, give us who have never been there a balanced view.


sueann roberts
said

I cant believe what I am reading in these comments. No One should have to live in these conditions anywhere. Shame on you Canada.


leo
said

besides the taxes u talk about are paid by them also whenever they buy something off the community and whenever they ship supplies there. canada would not be able to collect taxes if they didnt have a land base which the first nations agreed to share via treaty.debeers made 440 million alone last yr while the band received very little, due to the goverment collecting millions in royalties, if they were allowed to collect taxes that are made off of their own land this conversation would be irrelevant, all i see is negative comments hear towards first nations, i wonder if this will even be shown.


Mary
said

I generally don't agree with the Cons. Gov - the long gun registry etc is a nightmarish loss. However 90 000 000 doesn't vanish into smoke. If you can't open your books, don't expect the rest of the country to bear the weight of more money for your reserve. That's an awful lot of coin and basically nothing to show for your gains. You don't buy 2 trailers for 90 000 000. You don't buy flights to Fiji for the whole band 3x a year for 90 000 000.Someone's stealing.Where has the money gone? That needs to be cleared up. Obviously there is a state of emergency. But who in the band has the money that could actually deal with it? Obviously the capital was dispensed. Where has it gone? That is a fair question to put to the chief - and a thorough audit.If there's something to hide, no wonder they tossed out an external auditor. Lots of terrible things have happened in the past, but that doesn't misappropriation of funds appropriate.If the books don't open, I am highly reticent to see any more money brought forward. There has to be SOME accountability. I can understand if a few things were splurged on, but that's a lot of coin.... to vanish.


Steve in AB
said

For those saying that we treat natives like second class citizens, give your head a shake. We treat them like CITIZENS PLUS. They get all their treaty rights and free houses, education, money, no taxes, etc. Or they have a choice to live off reserve and still recieve some benefits that the rest of Canadians do not have access to while living the Canadian lifestyle. They have a choice. That is why I have little sympathy for the adults living in the shacks, they could simply move off reserve and be like everyone else, they choose to live like that. Now the chiefs want us to respect the treaties, too bad we don't take a literal interpretation of them and give them five cows and ten sacks of flowers and some blankets and medicine every year instead of tens of millions of wasted money.


Ty
said

Give every 1st nations a million dollars and then that's it. Cut them off after that. They can use the money for housing, education, training etc. to get jobs or create jobs. Then they can decide to be a part of society or not, but pay taxes once that money runs out.


Bonnie
said

I guess I'm not surprised by the ignorant comments posted here. If some of you people who are saying that we are just sending our tax dollars to the Native people for nothing and without accountablity, you are sooo wrong.Take a history lesson and see why it's come to this. The Natives were promised pay for the good taken out of THEIR land. Instead of getting royalties, they signed off on the Treaties. (Which is the terms of the pay they sould get) but haven't received yet.What if a couple guys had a fight over your property and the winner owned it. (That is what the English French did on the Plains of Abraham in Quebec City). How would you feel? You didn't have it for sale and you didn't get paid for it, nor did you want to move. But the winner of the fight offered you some money to get lost and you trusted them to pay but you never got the money, only name calling and abuse.NOW HOW WOULD YOU REALLY FEEL???


lg
said

something to hide? I dont think so, the government should worry about that stuff later and help fellow canadians in need who just happen to be aboriginal.They were quick to jump for slave lake,walkerton and other situations. but not for first nations, as for accountability? they posted their finances on their website. if u want accountability u should ask the province about the 200 million dollar e health scandal that money went missing and was not accounted for. and what about the 50 million plus dollars that the federal government blew in clement's riding during the g20 summit? they still dont know where that went! and that was spent in months. As for Chief spences salary? it is justified considering everything costs 3 times as much in those remote areas. for example a 2 by 4 bought in thunder bay might cost 3$ there but it will cost 9$ by the time it gets there. basically a 80000$ house would cost around 250000 to build because of shipping costs. I am ashamed of our governments reaction to this crisis, as it is totally different to what the feds did for haiti and slave lake and others.they spent 300$ million dollars in haiti on people who are not even canadians. im not saying they shouldnt have but why cant we do this for first nations when they need help? they should be in there building houses and making sure the kids and elders are in safe warm conditions. they can worry about audits later, even though they already post what they spend online. if this was another group of people canadians would not be even writing this stuff, they would be trying to help. And attawapiskat could be a sustainable place, as debeers made 440 mill alone


MAE in Ontario
said

Where is it written that we have to support natives their whole lives. They don't want to move to where there is work. No they want to live where they are and let us support them. When my husband couldn't find work in Manitoba he moved to Ontario. When my son couldn't find work in our community he moved to where the work is. If we can do it why can't natives. It's not even just children moving. The government wanted top move the whole reserve but the natives turned them down. I have come to the conclusion that nothing will change with native people until the government cuts them off of the gravy train and makes them earn their own living and natives will never have that sense of accomplishment and self worth that comes with earning your own living and paying your own way


schpid
said

Amazing. They want to be their own Nation within Canada but they can't even take care of what they have now.How is this Canada's fault?They are given HUGE amounts of cash. I own a home. If the roof leaks I fix it. if my garbage can gets full, I take it to the dump and not just throw it off the porch.The federal government (taxpayers) has provided facilities to provide power and clean drinking water to numerous reserves. They then trained members of the reserve to run and operate these facilities. I fail to understand how it is "white" Canada's fault when those persons fail to show up for work, ignore problems when they first arise or generally just don't care.All the "stories" about life on the reserve are generally based in fact. These issues will not go away until the bands get together and fix them themselves. What other solution is there? There is no excuse for conditions like this to exsist in Canada but because they are given everything for free, there is zero sense of ownership or pride in their community. Continuing to cling to a victim mentality is not going to fix things


att man
said

i am from the attawapiskat reserve and i must say that the chief and council looks like they are afraid of something with the way money is spent on this reserve in the way they denied the 3rd party managar access to this town. many attawapiskat members would also like to know where funds were spent! in my own point of veiw, there is something wrong here, it was only recently that people were told to apply for housing! why deny government officials entry to this town if there is no mismanagement? why deny the the embarrassment to the government when they find nothing??! now, there is talk of taking this to the courts by the chief, this will be a complete waste of time on her part and a complete waste of bands funding if it should drag on and on... one other question is, who will pay for the lawyers when the 3rd party manager already has control?... i say just let these morons in and take a look at the books... and i'm not comfortable with the chief saying on the news that it's her town... it's not... it's the attawapiskat peoples town... she only got 172 votes plus one to break the tie that happened on election day... she does not speak for me!


Don K
said

There are two sides to this story; one that started a long time ago that resulted in stolen land, the horrors of the residential school system and then eventually just handing over land and money without giving the communities the tools to succeed. The other is blindly handing over money without any assurance of how it would be spent by those that are receiving it. In the end, no one on either side of this story really wins. It's clear that the amount of money given to Attawapiskat over the years should not have resulted in the current conditions on the reserve and there needs to be some accountability there. It's like the old saying goes: give a man a fish, he eats for a day; teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime. In this case I think both sides (band and government) need to admit that mistakes have been made in the past but that they need to look forward together to solve the root of the problem.


J Stad
said

My gosh, the underlining racism is quite an eye opener. We as Canadians must realize reserves do not work. That for First Nations to be prosperous, they need access to land that is able to sustain them. We need to move towards understanding that Treaties were meant to be acted in good faith and that self-government is possible if support is provided. We need both groups to come together and try to rebuild the system.


blc Ottawa
said

Talk about the public being manipulated on this one by the Band and NDP. Did this just happen in October of 2011, winter comes every year guaranteed, same time, same place?

Why do you think they waited until October to declare an emergency for exactly what is happening right now so all the socialists would get on the air and cry these poor people, that terrible conservate Govt.

What the Band was hoping for was a rush job as winter approaches and they would get more money no questions. Backfiring this time as Canadians at large have had enough.

Give them as many millions as they want and in less than 2 years the houses will be destroyed again and same old story. Time they became self sufficient.



Zircon
said

Hey Shawn Atleo, you're right. The Indian Act is in fact holding us back. I suggest we regard all citizens as Canadians and treat all equally, with the same access to opportunity and assistance that some presently receive because of their race. What, you suddenly don't think that's "fair"? Didn't think so. Neither do we.


JM
said

Does it really cost $250K to build a home there? I wouldn't be surprised if it did.These people cannot spend the winter in tents. They cannot build 280 homes in a week.The people will need to be relocated...to somewhere else in the village...to another First Nations reserve (one or many) willing to take them in...or to somewhere off a reserve where they can get medical care, food and send their kids to school.Time to get the people safe and figure out fault later.


M
said

I scrolled down looking at the comments - I carry the same sentiment. I'm accountable to the Govt with MY own money. Why shouldn't the natives be accountable with MY money as well.

I've been watching the coverage of this story on TV. While they were shooting the delapatated housing several newer pickup trucks were driving back and forth down the roads in the background.

Housing budget not enough but transportation budget looks ok huh??????

Man this story makes me livid!


Helen - Ontario
said

Where did the millions allocated to this very small, extremely northern native band go???Why are the pictures of the squalid living conditions continually being shown ad nauseum?Where are the pictures of the new, state of the art hospital? Where are the pictures of the new educational facilities? What about the new Community Centre with an $80,000 Zamboni for the ice? What about the Chief appointing her brother to look after the roads with a large, untaxed salary???Where is the real truth to this northern community? Perhaps the journalists could do some reality reporting.Tell the do-gooders that the Merry Christmas season is upon us and that they should take a long holiday break.I am a taxpayer and I demand an accurate accounting for the monies that have supported this community.


A Koster
said

The only question here is where have all the royalties from the diamond mine gone? How is the Ontario government coping with that $6.2 billion in GDP growth from the mine? Is Clockworks Manufacturing distributing any of that proft from cutting and polishing their portion of the raw diamonds from that mine? .. The only people who do not appear to be prospering are the people of Attawapiskat... the rightful owners of the land and the fee simple (rights for royalty payments from that diamond revenue stream).. in comparison, a trust fund with $10 million in it for 3 years, and that $90 million dollars over 6 years are nothing more than 'beads for manhatten' mentallity.


Bonnie
said

Way to go First Nations Chief!!I wouldn't want somone from Harper's government telling me what to do with my money.Flahahahaerty is a joke. Look at the state he left Ontario in.Where is our big fighting army now? They are probably running around the world helping out other people with making clean water and electricity. Or building someone else new schools.The only thing that third party person could have brought with him would be a fist full of money, owed to the Native people by the government who has reneged on the Treaties they signed in good faith.The rest of us can quit telling them what to do and where to live as well.They were never asked if it was okay for the rest of us to live here, we just took over.


dante
said

Sandra that is a most ignorant comment. Europeans stole their land, way of life and committed genocide all over North America...... Their is not argument that allows for people to die in poverty in Canada. NONE.


Average Canadian in NS
said

This makes you think, what are they trying to hide by kicking out the third pary representive? Do they not want the taxpayers to know where their money is going towards? They want money from Canada, and for the government to leave them alone; yet when this stuff happens, they come sceaming for the Canadian government for help. They can't have it both ways. The NDP need a quick lesson in reality. Have a look at Nova Scotia and how the NDP is "governing" that province, it will be ten times worse if they run the Canada.


Elmer in BC
said

Nice suit, tie and shirt. Wish someone would buy me threads like that to.Something has to change in the "native" attitude with some bands. Why is it the bands that aren't doing well financially just say "send us the money" but we don't want your help. There are other bands that have highly educated members that have a strong business sense and are doing well. It is these bands that I have respect for. The band that has no direction, self-respect or business trained people but just "want the money", need the training and education. If you can't get someone trained in your band to properly oversee the money and administration then you get limited funds till you do!


John
said

Barry Wynn, why don't you pony up some cash you think they deserve?


basic math
said

Not paying taxes and expecting more free money for doing noting is unacceptable.


Kevin
said

"Give us more money, but don't ask how we spend it " Is just not acceptable. If they keep it up , I would remind them they wanted to live the native non technology life style, we should let them.


Look at the numbers
said

Of course they think he's unacceptable, they spent $11,228,614 in wages and employee benefits for a town of 1800ish people!!! On top of that they had the nerve to give themselves raises equalling $1,418,028 last year! Just check page 4 of their financial statement... it's posted on their website.


Erk
said

I see a lot of people using the "US vs THEM" in these comments, and I'd like to point out that there's only just US in this situation. We're all people and all Canadians. Maybe the goverment has lost sight of that fact as well as the band, and most Natives in this country, are treated like second class citizens. They're not; they're people and they are (yes, again I say it) Canadian. If this was a town full of white people up there, I probably wouldn't be commenting on this article as it wouldn't have been written in the first place. When are we going to get our damn priorities straight already?


zealander
said

Yes, unacceptable!

Just give us the money and don't ask any questions.


Dave - Portage
said

I think the media coverage of Aboriginal conditions on some First Nation reserves is very slanted towards sympathy towards Aboriginals. Countless millions have been allocated over decades to First Nations for Education, Housing and Health Care only to be squanderd away through unaccountability by Chiefs and Councils for a miriad of reasons - none of which help their people. The government is right to appoint a 3rd Party and more reserves need it in order to change conditions. I have seen first hand in Manitoba (having travelled to many reserves)how funds are spent and unaccounted for. Houses are destroyed, schools burned down, substance abuse, assaults, etc. Many reserves simply need to be shut down for their own sake. They are simply in disrepair and tax payers cannot continue to fund these dysfunctional villages.


Paul in Simcoe
said

so after reading these comments i have come to the conclusion that the majority of Canadians want to help our fellow man but don't like being taken advantage of. The minority of Canadians can't see beyond their own political stripe and must use absolutely every item to try and smear whoever is in power while ignoring the fact that this problem has been in place prior to the current administration.


Fenton
said

I'm a lefty with no love for the "Harper Government", but without accountability, distribution of resources is typically unequal, with the ones doing the distribution and those close to them benefiting disproportionately. I would like to hear more from those farther from the 'Grand Chief' about what the reality has been there. Accountability is essential to fairness for all, and there has to be at very least a reliable, 3rd party mechanism in place to ensure it.


andrew j
said

The grand chief and his cronies are worried now. Of course with no accurate records, we the canadian public will never know the true cost of their "managment". How can they live high off the hog, while their people live in poverty? Obviously they care more for themselves then their own people. The blame rests on them and not on the rest of Canada.


CarlO
said

Gee. I wonder what the Chief is hiding. Maybe a few million. . . just saying.


snowcone
said

Everyone is so quick to judge. Why not take yourself up there and see how easy it is first hand. They need help and now, not money, fix the emergency then deal with the fall out of money issues later. Everyone is quick to give every dime to World Vision and the likes, charity starts at home if you ask me.




disgusted
said

So they still expect us to fix their problems even after all that has been said. They are literally sitting and waiting for us to build them houses and save them ---again! Can't they do what they have to to support their own families and have a proper safe home. Is it that impossible for them to realize that they might have to leave their community and get work elsewhere, save some money and then return to their village and continue rebuilding their homes and lives? That is what you do when times are rough, life is not easy for any of us. Why are they the exception?


J.C.
said

Sorry folks - made a few typo errors ther on my previous comment should be 250,000X280=70,000,000. dollars. Still way too much for not being accounted for. Can't keep giving without knowing where it is going!!


Les
said

Sounds to me like he's got something to hide!! Why is he so defensive about the 3rd party representative? Afraid he'll dig up some very expensive skeletons out of your closet Chief? If you're not willing to accept the help, you should be cut off!! And it's not you that will suffer, it's the people of Attawapiskat who are already suffering that will suffer more! Shame on you!!!


Ben
said

Maybe they should make all these reserves that are rich and give some to the less fortunate or give all the treaty money to the poor communities and the rich one who don't need it are on their own. I have heard about many aboriginal youth getting 20,000 when they turn 18 but they need our money?


Thom H
said

Funny how the cost of a house is estimated at $250,000. I would like to grow up in a community that gave me a free 250K home. I am mortgage free due to a lifetime of managing and saving, and rarely going on vacations. As this population grows, what is the plan for the increasing numbers? I think they should be self governing, but when they do, they shouldn't look at my tax dollars for a bailout. They need to start paying taxes or contributing to the tax base if this is to continue in the future. I have my own family to support.


Colleen
said

It is mighty suspicious that they won't allow a third party in to take a look. It seems to me that they are afraid of what might be found. If the band truly wants a solution and truly cared about their people, they would have no problem with this. I hope that the government doesn't back down on this and thatf finally someone in government will the strength to do what needs to be done. It is deplorable that people are living this way and it must be corrected immediately. However, we alll know that there the bands have mismanages funds for years and it will continue unless something is drastically changed. I hope this story continues to be reported on in a fair manner and not a "politically correct" one.


what a surprise
said

What a surprise! The grand chief wants no accountability because he knows damn well that he will end up in jail. The occupy protesters should not be protesting Bay Street; they should be protesting these greedy non accountable bastards.


Marcel
said

The refusal to have their books examined by a third party manager is a clear sign that something is fishy in the Attawapiskat's finances. While the band's immediate needs for the winter need to be looked after - only for the sake of the children - future funds ought to be cut off until their books get a thorough forensic audit. Canadian tax-payers have a right to know how their money is being spent.


D-Log
said

The news footage only shows the dilapidated housing on part of the reserve...why not show what the band chief lives in along with other her other band leaders. I highly doubt they are suffering. Let's see how much the band leaders too as their salaries. The native leaders are playing their typical shell game as they always do...pulling out the race card when it suits them to avoid finding the real truth behind how the $90 million was spent...and don't believe 80% was targetted for education...that is the area in which money must have been misdirected. If the NDP were in power they would blindly dole out another $90 of our tax dollars, no questions asked...thank goodness they aren't in power.


Mike fro Calgary
said

Send more tax dollars and allow us self-determination. Not working. Send even more tax dollars and butt out!The more dumps and abuses we can create for our people, the more attention we can generate in the media and the more money we can extract from the stupid taxpayer. Why should we stop. These crises may not be good for the taxpayer, but they are our cashcow and golden goose. If you are going to reward us for this behaviour, why should we stop and take any action to "improve" conditions. The worse the conditions, the better our cash flow from the taxpayer. It works great for us .... how's it working for the taxpayer and all you bleeding hearts?


carol
said

If the Attawapiskat Resrve does not want a third part to look into what happened to thousands and thousands of dollars that has been given to them by the Canadian Government then perhaps the Canadian Government should stop giving them funding. For them not to want a third party to do an audit tells me that they are trying to hide something. They want more money but are not willing to divulge where all they other money has gone? Something isn't right so what are they hiding.


JanMac
said

$90,000,000 over 5 years is $18,000,000 per year. If they were a small town of 1,950 they would collect about $300,000-$500,000/year in property taxes and be responsible for their water, sewage, etc. Yes, the $18,000,000 has to go a lot farther: infrastructure, education, health care, etc., but surely it's enough for a town of less than 2,000.

Let's all help get them through the crisis and back on their feet, but some sort of management is needed, third party or otherwise. How else can one be sure that the the community centre will have running water and that sewage won't back up into homes, again?


Lisa
said

As far as I'm concerned, auditing the books isn't a terrible thing. Every business, not-for-profit and government have audits, why not First Nations? Accountability is priority even before ruffled feathers. There is obviously a problem administering the finances so why wouldn't they want the help in fixing it? This grand-standing makes the Chiefs look guilty...


Hunky Dory
said

Why is an audit so opposed by the chiefs? What are they afraid of? What are they hiding?I want to know where the millions went afterall it's our tax money! Time to get some responsibility into this situation!!


Lionel
said

I asked a First Nations person some years ago while building houses on their reserve, what they had to do to get one of these nice split level homes. He said, Fill out an application for one.I said thats it, he said thats it.I asked what they had to do to become farmers here,[This was good ranchland farms all around the perimeter of the reservation] He said just put up fence where you want to farm and its yours.Not many years later most of these homes were wrecked and hardly a fence on the reserve for ranching still.It just shows that if you don't work for it you don't care for it as there is no pride in what you haven't worked for.It's just that simple.


PAM
said

Sandra The Bering Strait theory is a myth. Get it? A myth. A myth that originated in the States for political purposes. Have you studied DNA profiles? The DNA profiles of Asians versus Natives are not even close. People who continue to promote this political myth are clearly ignorant of history and proper research.


Bob in Chatham
said

I seldom agree with the Conservatives approach, however, they got this one right. If the band council has spent the money responsibly they have nothing to worry about. I'd sure like to know where the millions went too ! Every tax payer in Canada is supporting these people and we have a right to know what they are doing with our money.


WestofTheRockies
said

Classic case of the Fox declaring the Chicken Coop safe. Upon discovery that Chickens continue to go missing and an inspector has been sent, the Fox says he's insulted, we shouldn't be focusing on the losses, the coop does not need inspecting we just need to send more chickens.


Michael
said

So unfortunate for the children. In the news last night multiple communities were shown. These people have to take some responsibility for their living conditions. The Scandinavian people who came to Canada in the 20's and 30's knew how to build doors and buildings. Hinges made from wood alone, remarkable work. There is no excuse for an outhouse in one of these communities to have a sheet for a door. Or a door to a home to have a huge hole in it. Lets get some poeple into these communities to help teach building skills using part of the natural resources especially the timber available. Obviously money is needed and better programs but lets get experts there to teach some building skills and help these people return somewhat to their proud roots.


Sandra
said

Andre Setton: You're assuming that they even have accounting books! More likely the money kept in the bottom drawer with a sign that reads "help yourself". That's why they don't want accountability. Just make sure Mrs. Grand Chief checks his pockets before she throws his pants and shirts into the wash.


Bob,Calgary,Alberta
said

You cannot live in a Northern Reserve with no viable industry and no jobs and expect other Canadians to pay for a lifestyle that is not and never will be sustainable. This clown Charlie Angus, who by the way has been MP for this area for 7 years, is trying to make political capital from a serious situation that has existed in Northern Reserves for decades. Where was old Charlie for all his 7 years as an MP. (I expect he was sitting on his butt and building up pension credits for the future). Aboriginal peoples cannot simply have a blank cheque to live in isolation, spend money on hockey arenas, enrich chiefs and their families while demanding more and more taxpayer dollars to keep what has not worked going. Stephen Harper is doing the right thing and showing a lot more courage than Liberal PMs like Chretien who just looked the other way and wrote cheques.


Barry Wynn
said

There is no money missing up there. The cost of doing business up there is very costly. Everything must be flown in by freighter aircraft or floated down the Moose River during the summer months. 93 million dollars is a tiny drop in the bucket. A sovereign Indian Nation idea would need a least 200 billion dollars to administer the FNs all through the country of Canada. What do you say to that, and it would be a separate tax money collection unit in the revenue department just for the FNs.


Sandra
said

So we are imposing on them???? Maybe we shouldn't "impose" our money on them either.


Douglas Brown (Newmarket)
said

Come on CTV - Get W5 in there to expose this mess!We - the taxpayers of Canada have a right to know the truth and stop our money from being wasted.


reidjr
said

steve
No Hraper is not a dictator at all.


Anne
said

You cannot expect the gov't to just hand over taxpayer money without knowing it is being spent appropriatley which it clearly has not been. You would think that if you really cared about your people you would gladly accept any help being offered. Start acting responsibly and in the best interest of those less fortunate than you.


Sandra
said

I know I'll get a lot of flak for this, but our Aboriginals are immigrants too. They didn't spontaneously appear in North America. They migrated over the Bering Strait. There have been different waves of immigration. Other peoples followed later, but they arrived by ship. And why is it that it's all sacred land, until they want to build a casino or sell the timber?


reidjr
said

elder
I think if there is a boiling point it will be between the different reserves you have some that are doing very well while some are in awful shape.


Kevin on PEI
said

Why is it such an outrage that the band leadership should have to account for the money entrusted to it? They seriously think they have an inherent right to $90 million and more without having to explain where it went when their people are living in squalor? Claiming that this amounts to blaming the victims is a deflection. I hope Ottawa is looking into the personal finances of the band leaders.


Pat
said

These reserves across Canada have "self government"...they manage their own affairs and the Gov't can't tell them how to spend their money. Funny, though, when they run out of money, they go crying to the gov't for more money. At the same time they won't allow anyone to look at their books. An aerial view of this community shows that it is fairly large with only 1800 people living there....surely not every house has to be replaced...we have only seen 5 homes...non of the rest are shown. It's true that natives don't own these homes but since they live in them, should they not have some pride in their surroundings instead of trashing every house that the taxpayer builds.Why does a reserve of 1800 need 19 councilors not to mention numerous chiefs..let's take a look at their homes.


Robert B
said

I wonder, not if but when the consultant finds out where the money went will the Chief and his cohorts/councillors be held accountable ?? I know if it happened to and off reserve person they would be in jail faster than you can say, "why me?


Scott (in Alberta Party country)
said

This man is a joke and HE is a representative of the native people? Stay away from the cameras and stop embarrassing your people.


Anne
said

Um, guess what - you want millions in handouts from my tax dollars, then you accept audits and government management. Especially when it would appear said funds have been mismanaged. And the Grand Chief now looking for $250K each for 280 or so houses?? Wish I had someone giving me a house for nothing. A lot of us 'native born too' Canadians are getting pretty fed up.


Memories
said

The beautiful faces of the little children in this environment of squalor is tragic; they are its greatest victims. $90 million didn't help and 10x$90 in the future won't help. How can (especially) the young parents look at their children and then at this bleak hole of hopelessness and see a future?? It's the 21st century - and we don't like many things about it - but we have to educate ourselves and do our best in it. When First nations people reflect and grasp this essential: No, not for $90 million or a thousand times that will I subject my children to this misery ....... No! No! No! Goodbye to this past, to the Chief and to the Grand Chief (they've already left - they're basically paid visitors and gvt. representatives. Hello to the future - my children will grow and prosper; we are strong and , with God's help,we will make our ancestors proud.


DCI
said

Of course the grand chief doesn't want anyone snooping around. it won't take long to find out where the money is. Off shore bank account somewhere. I don't understand why the RCMP are not being brought in to investigate this matter. It is clear that very little was spent on housing and infrastructure on this rerserve. Stop giving these places money... That's all they want. Pack the people up and relocate them somewhere where they can have a life. And burn the reserve to the ground. There is no employment for them there. This is so stupid....


Bob in Cornwall
said

Listen Steve.....We have a democratically elected conservative government who were granted a majority by the Canadian people and our constitution. They are free to govern according to that constitution which means they can implement their (our- read "majority") agenda. If you think anything like this occurs in countries headed by a dictator, you are sadly mistaken. Look up the word 'dictator' and think before you write.It's time that all monies doled out to native groups are accounted for.


Harold
said

$90 Million was funded since 2006 on this reserve and its in this shape.? Clearly there is something very wrong and if the Chief can't explain where the money has gone the Fed. Gov't has every right to put in a 3rd party to administer the next set of funds coming from the taxpayers of Canada. Since the taxpayer is funding the taxpayer has the right to know where, how and why the the money is being spent.


David Clark
said

Mel Bevan said: Blaming the people is the same as a slum lord blaiming the tenents for the condition of the slum. READ THE INDIAN ACT.What he forgot to say was that slum landlords collect rent.Natives can move anywhere and get a job anywhere in Canada. They are not forced to live on reserves. If they choose to live like they did when white people arrived, at least they could provide for themselves like they must have before we came.Paying wages to band administration as if it was in Toronto is quite outrageous. Natives on reserves don't pay any income tax and they don't pay municipal tax or any rent for their house. Paying "reserve" wages would make the billions already paid by our government go a lot further.


Sandra
said

It's not Ottawa's money or "their" money. It's my money and your money as taxpayers that is being given away to all and sundry. Accountability is the very minimum that the providers (taxpayers) should demand.


Andre Setton
said

How about making any further funding from the Federal Government contingent on having a third-party audit what has been happening with the money already sent?It seems to me that the band must have something to hide if it refuses to open its books.


IslandGuy
said

And if you or I were loaned massive amounts of money from the local bank but did not do with what we had committed to do, what might happen to us?


Pedro
said

After watching the last 2 weeks or so of Attawaspuskat stories I have yet to hear the exact number of people in the community who have less than standard housing compared to those who have standard housing. Are they the same? Or are there some Atttawapuskat members who live in standard to the conditions or better than such conditions?Interested Canadians wish to know.And, if we describe Attawaspukat citizens as Canadians (?) are the natural resources the property of Attawaspukians or of all of we Canadians as described?Your news pieces are a big piece of balderdash!Someday the viewers will see through it.The day is soon.


Roam
said

The Government should call upon the leaders of "successful" First Nations Bands to get involved in the management of any future funds for Attawapiskat. The First Nations want self government now here's their chance. The Grand Chief/High Chief would be hard pressed to sell his story of woe to his "brothers/sisters" in Bands who are totally self sufficient, industrious and financially sound. I'm sure many of these people are shaking their heads in disbelief at the way millions of taxpayer dollars have been flagrantly misspent by the leaders of Attawapiskat. The leaders of Attawapiskat have used their peoples welfare shamelessly, timing this whole scenario to occur just before winter, hoping all the bleeding hearts in Canada will overlook their mismanagement of millions of dollars and rally to support the poor people living in tents. It is the leaders of this Band who are responsible for their people living in tents in winter...not the federal government and not the Canadian people. If they want help, then accept there are conditions...a third party financial management team! NO MORE TAX DOLLARS to support financial incompetence!


DS
said

Time to turn off the tap here. I have recently driven through 3 Reserves here in NB. One sees ramshackle, rotting and run down shacks all over the Reserve, and then -set back well away from public view- several grandiose and well-kept dwellings. New trucks and ATVs sit just outside these nice places. Ask anyone just whose they are? "Band council and Chief" is the immediate reply. I am utterly fed up with this issue and Canadians should be as well.


chel in the Peg
said

The Chief is sounding a little defensive. Does he not realize that helping these people AND investigating the band finances can be done simultaneously? You don't need to fixate on one or the other. The Chief is in a position of accountability - he needs to grow up.


union joe civy
said

Grand Cheif should be investigating it himself. Why wait for a goverment that is selfish and very uncaring. Self goverment is where they should be and they should be cleaning the mess. The boobs in Ottawa only care for them selves and will lie , cheat, steal and minipulate only for their advantage so if you want it cleaned up, do it yourself.


Had enough
said

This is not a new problem nor is this the only reserve with living conditions that are below standard. I've been on many in northern Ontario, some people live responsibly with traditional values. Their homes have everything that a home in any city has, satelite, internet, large screens...etc. But there are many that choose to live carefree. Don't care about their possessions, their kids or really anything. Need a meal, someone feeds them, need a sleep, crash somewhere, get in trouble with the law, its not their fault, they have addictions or their father or grandfather was abused.....the cycle needs to stop. If FN's people can't account for themselves, how we can we expect they can account for 90 million $$ that they get. Not positive but i've heard the number $9 Billion a year Canada spends on FN's each year.....whats our national debt at? Go figure. No disrespect to any of the good hard working responsible FN's people i am friends with. As we have discussed, the abuses of "the system" need to stop.


Lets be frank
said

Not to pick on this people they need help, but give me a break, where is the monies ? There was three Band Offices burnt to the ground in SK in the last few years, these bands had money trouble so the records went up in flames. These people don't have a clue about money all they know is spent when you have it and wait for more when you run out. Have you ever checked the Band chief's houses on the reserves ?


David Clark
said

Many people in southern Canada would love to afford a mobile home. Why should natives get a $250,000 house when for less than $60,000 you can get a beautiful 1,000 sq ft, 3 bedroom mobile home with all new appliances including furnace, fridge, stove, washer, dryer etc.Why don't these natives ask for supplies so they can build their own homes and then keep them repaired? If they don't know how to build, then why not send in a few teachers to show them how rather then "10's of millions" to build homes they will only destroy anyway?


Geoff in Lethbridge
said

The residents of Attawapiskat are the constituents of the chief and council, and being as these residents are my fellow Canadians, I join them in having the right to hold their leaders accountable for the public funds in their possession! I have long favoured converting First Nations communities - actual "reserves" and public communities - into municipalities in which the residents pay taxes for public works, and whose leadership is publicly accountable for money spent. Attawapiskat has more "mayors" and "councillors" than most Canadian cities twenty times larger!


Pat
said

If some people are freezing and have no decent homes, one has to wonder what all those Chiefs have been doing for their own people...seems they did nothing. I'm sure their homes are warm. What has Charlie Angus done in the last 7 years as MP for that area...funny he just noticed. We still haven't seen anything beyond those same 5 homes. There are many wealthy reserves in Canada...but I have not heard of a single Native offer any assistance to this reserve...why won't they help their own people. Those Chiefs don't want a third party because he may discover where all that money has gone...just stop funding them until they open their books.


V.I.Brad
said

"the government ... [is] convinced in their minds that there is something terribly wrong here." And why wouldn't they be? Millions upon millions of dollars spent to help a community out of the gutter and now the Red Cross is called to a state of emergency. Why are we worried about offending this man? He clearly has no shame.


joe canada
said

To elder you are living in a dream world(sleeping giant?). The natives can't organize anything unless we pay for it and help. Without our handouts you would not know what to do. Natives are losing their heritage and ability to live off the land but because of our handouts have not adapted to survive in the future that is now today. It really is a shame.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

All I'm hearing is "Give us some more damn money, and leave us the hell alone." Nope. Don't think so. The First Nation community of Attawapiskat has successfully demonstrated that it is incompetent to handle the money it is given, which exceeds the $90M since 2006 commonly thrown around when you include the Province of Ontario and a nice little share of Orillia casino revenue. In fact, last year alone the community received about $34M (non-taxable) from the federal government, the provincial government, and the Orillia casino. That represents approximately $17K/person or roughly $70K/family. Any regular "job" income is on top of this. Yet, of course, there are people in Attawapiskat living in squalor...while a new ice rink and Zamboni sit down the street. The new school (for which Ottawa contributed $10M years ago) is still not built, and the old one still stands. Grand Chief Louttit and Attawapiskat Chief Spence are a central part of the problem, and certainly not the solution at this practical juncture. Stand aside. You cannot admit that your community's finances "were" completely out of order but "now," suddenly, only weeks later, are entirely fine and dandy. Sorry. No credibility. Too much money remains unaccounted for. The people in need are finally getting the help they deserve. Quit being obstructive, uncooperative, and an impediment to uncovering the truth. Attawapiskat deserves better.


brian Fr Langley
said

Well said Mel Bevan, they do not own anything, and that is exactly why the problems are endemic and unfixable. Our Governmenst have collectivized our 1st Nations creating a situation that WILL NEVER work. The solution is de-collectivize. Allow property ownership like the rest of the country. Education, training, more money is NOT the answer. The age old principle of private property is. De-collective 1st Nations NOW


Ted Sprague
said

Let's first ask, this $90 million that we heard a lot, is that an annual budget or 10 year budget? No one seems to ask this simple question (it is 6 year). And what is the population of the reserve? (it is 1800). So, it comes down to govt spending of $8333 per person per annual in the reserve, for roads, infrastructure, housing, etc.Now, let's look at Canadian federal budget/expenditure. Close to $300 billion in 2011 for 30 million people, that comes down to $10,000 per Canadian per year. Not to mention provincial budget.The point, no one seems to care about doing some basic math, and get fixated with "we have spent so much money, billions of dollar for them", just like drones repeating what the media and Harper said.Now, if we want to talk about massive subsidy, no one receives bigger subsidy than the big corporations.


Lz in Edmonton
said

I'll tell you whats unacceptable Grand Chief, if you are saying you are needing 280 x $250,000 per house, that works out to $70,000,000. You were given $90,000,000 so you should have $20,000,000 left in the bank. Besides, how do you think you are going to build 280 homes in the middle of winter? I know who the band should fire right NOW.


Trish
said

This community has had a history of problems receiving clean water, and proper sewage treatment, which has never been properly addressed, as well as a shortage of other municipal facilities and structures that other Canadians enjoy, such as schools, roads etc. These items are expensive and require government help to fund, as they do for all Canadian communities. The $90 Million Dollars over 5 years, has not been adequate. Tony Clement was able to spend $50 Million to spruce up an already beautiful tourist area with a public washroom and a few other perks. Why is the spending of $90 million, over 5 years, in a community that requires extensive disaster recovery and relief, being scrutinized so much more than the G8 expenses? How much money was quickly sent to Slave Lake and other disaster areas without all the criticism? The water, sewage and schooling issues began years ago and were never properly addressed. The government representatives have been able to work and oversee this situation for years, they have been negligent in their responsibilities to this community. Let us see how much has been spent in all the other communities, as well as all the other disaster areas, and then we can honestly compare the funding. In the mean time people are suffering, and there are other communities that are also suffering, and will now hesitate to come forward, at great risk, because of how the Attawapiskat Community has been treated.


cehnehdeh in SK
said

This is truly insulting to every Canadian. This not so "Grand Chief" has the audacity to make a public appearance on national TV and proclaim it to be unfair to have a third party to audit the crisis. If they are not willing to be accountable for their corruption at the band council level then they shouldn't get a penny more. The "Grand Chief" says they need $250,000 per house and that they need 280 houses, "you do the math". Personally I would like to see him do the math. He probably can't and that's why he's lost 90 million dollars.


Jon in Burlington
said

I agree with most of the comments here,. The Grand Chief is trying tom redirect the problem to the Government. We the Tax Payer who give the Indians 10 billion a year have the absolute right to know where and how my money is being spent. What salaries are the Chiefs and Councillors getting? What amount was spent on a skating arena? Why are the houses in such poor shape ? Why didn't Angus the NDP representative not see this last year or 2 years ago, this is in his riding?? Perhaps we should look at Mr. Angus bank accounts to see if they are in order..Whether the 3rd party is or isn't on the Reserve, all monies from now forward have to be accounted for. Lets stop treating these Indians as thought they were something special. They live in Canada, get my Canadian Taxpayers dollars These people must learn you can't suck and blow at the same time.


John
said

I am 68 years old and have owned and lived in 3 homes I purchased with money I worked hard for. Prior to this I could not afford to buy a house and rented until I was 27 years old then got a rent to purchase home! this first house was at the time, 60 years old and needed some repairs and upgrades which I did over the next 20 years. I then purchased a house that at the time was 50 years old and although much better still needed upgrades which I did over time and now the house I am presently in which I purchased 4 years ago was 47 years old. You will notice NONE of these houses are as old as the DESTROYED houses on this reserve and almost every reserve in the country. My god, are all native leaders blind to the fact that natives including chiefs are not doing their jobs to insure these houses are maintained? Its time for the leaders to hold their members accountable for maintaining their accomadations or kicking them out.


Joann
said

The calculation he refers to: 280 houses by $250,000 per house is just under the 80 million they have already received in the last 2 years. Why don't they use that money to build the houses they are requesting? And yet they said they do not need a manager to manage their money!!!


Marg
said

How much more evidence do we need that the millions that we are sending to support the reserve system isn't working? Where has the money gone? Why has it not "filtered" down to the people who really need it? Spending decisions are made, not by the government, but by the band leaders. No wonder they don't want to share that information.


Wow
said

Interesting developments. I've been doing a lot of thinking. It's amazing that Atawapiskat has lasted this long with the incredibly tiny amount of funding they received. 18 million dollars a year does not cover, education, road maintenance, water and sewage, waste disposal, housing, health care for two thousand people - think about it clearly without emotion! The Federal government will never relinquish self government rights to First Nations - they make a lot more money off the lands that they would have to give up in negotiations then what they give first nations for their pittance. wake up Canada - this is the reality.


Gregg C
said

This stinks. It is clearly more about the Grand Chiefs’ pride (his title says it all) and personal profit than helping ‘his people’.If there were nothing to hide then the band council should welcome the additional oversight, public scrutiny and media attention this would attract. If they see it as a threat or affront to their pride then clearly the problem isn’t access to funds.DO NOT stop the funds; the people clearly need assistance, anyone can see that.DO install and third party manager, provide security if needs be.DO sack the band council; if they were truly interested in helping their people then they would work for free to resolve the issues.


brad
said

When time and time again, one demonstrates they cannot be fiscal responsible, third party stays or money stops...SIMPLEAs for the 250k per house??? 1200 sq ft bungalows are costing 200 per square foot. Interesting...Make it open tender and we shall bid for much less and still make a profit, regardless of what everyone deems the high price of getting building materials to location....Winter Roads!Oh yes and of course we pay HST on everything, they don'tLets find out what it costs to fly them to Timmins, put them in hotels and let them buy carts of Christmas Toys then fly them back home......There's a chunk of that 90 Mil


GERRY
said

A consultant is needed at all times when its tax payer $$ how about one for the C.B.C.


TimT
said

@joe canadaIf you have bothered to read the information readily available, you would have learned that the federal government was already fully aware of where the money was spent, as there were annual financial statements given, a full accounting of where the money has been spent. But the federal government also knows it is able to dupe people like you to thinking this isn't the case, and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.


M.M.B. Ont
said

If you have nothing to hide, then you should welcome 3rd party intervention to determine where the 90 million dollars was spent. Thiscould also help to prioritize the immediate and future needs of this Aboriginal community. The giov't did not give me money to build my home nor any money to do repairs. It's not up to the taxpayer to be paying for such items. If you want to live according to your band laws and you want to live seperately as a group on reserves, then learn to manage yourselves accordingly and start working and contributing to the pot if you want to take from it.


George V.
said

We're being told, just send more money and don't tell us how we have to spend it, we will squander it and dole it out to our favourite band members like we have done for years past. There is no accountability, no checks or balances, Stay out of our business and increase the stipend for us and the taxes for all non-native citizens. When is this going to stop.


Mel Bevan
said

The people on Canada's Indian Reserves DO NOT own the homes they live in, the houses and eveything on Canada's reserves including the buildings, roads, water and sewer system is OWNED by the Government of Canada that the people of Canada elected. Blaming the people is the same as a slum lord blaiming the tenents for the condition of the slum. READ THE INDIAN ACT.


Steve in Edmonton
said

Frankly I could care less what the Grand Chief wants or wishes. It appears to me that much of the current state of affairs can be laid at his doorstep; he is more worried about having his own incompetence exposed than he is about achieving a solution. Tens of millions of dollars appears to have gone down the toilet...for what? It is actually well past time for the Feds to step in and sort the mess out. I would equally argue that heads should roll within AANDC as there had to be folks from that organization who were engaged with the band leadership for these past several years...and turned a blind eye to the wasted funding, all the while allowing so many of the Tribe's members to continue living in deplorable conditions. In the 'blame game' here...there aren't any winners!


elder
said

Harper ought to be mindful, that at some point, the outrageous approach of the Harper Cons to Aboriginal peoples living in Canada, is going to wake up a sleeping giant. A sleeping giant that Harper and his ilk, have ensured has nothing to lose. Those bible-believin Conservatives need to remember that 'the first shall be last, and the last shall be first', and that 'nothing that is covered, will not be uncovered'. I can envision Aboriginal peoples across their respective territories, mobilizing against them.....I just don't know what exactly will be the trigger....Canda's first Con, the drunk stinkin thinker, John A McDonald, thought it would be a good thing to authorize turning a gatling gun loose on Metis men defending their traditional territory. THAT Con openly announced his intention to anhilate the Metis......and absolutely NOTHING has changed in the mindset of the Conservative party since then. Aboriginal peoples living in Canada are reaching the boiling point....


B.J.
said

They should have accepted the consultant, since they cant manage their own affairs. This is absolute nonsence, they are asking for help they turn up their noses. The money given to them is outrageous and nothing to show for it. Go to work like other people, and if you choose to live in the boondocks then so be it. This is 2011 and the treaties should be banned. I can just imagine the government giving me money to fix a leak etc in my house, and I am unemployed.


MJ
said

Maybe the Grand Chief doesn't want them in there because we WILL find out where the money went!


joe canada
said

So they want our money but don't want us to know where it is going and what for. Get a job and stop buming off the canadian tax payer. If they get my money I want to know where it is being used. Maritimers are told to move across canada to find work yet we send millions to dead communities to keep natives there. Not wise.


Saskmike
said

Hopefully, this will start these cases to be treated as criminal.


edCP
said

Maybe it's time to have the RCMP investigate what really is going on here.


MikeW
said

If there is no third party management stop the infusion of money immediately. There is no doubt that corruption runs high in this community.Stop giving away my money that ends up in the pockets of a few or mis spent on a zamboni


Ron
said

If third party management is not acceptable to the first nation's people, neither is the blatant mismanagement of $90 million dollars acceptable to the suckers who pay you - the canadian taxpayer. If you do not care about your towns and villages, I fail to see why we should be so concerned about them. If only your NDP rep was this interested 7 years ago! Stand up and take responsibility for this mess.


CMQ
said

The best way to distract everyone away from how money is being grossly misused is to display the people of the reserve. Good tactic cheif while you make huge money yourself while they suffer. Hey CTV, how about posting the breakdown of expenses like other news channels have showing that they have a Grand Cheif, a deputy cheif and an honourary chief, they all make huge sums of money. The people are being thrown under the bus not by Harper but by the NDP and especially Angus, their MP who has seen this for seven years. Anyone with half a brain knows that poor money management and funds being directed primarily to a leader or leaders leaves the people out in the cold. This reserve is no better off than a dictatorship where those in charge are rich and the people suffering. I can't believe anyone would buy this cheif's story. He just doesn't want to lose all his own benefits. Really sad.


Just Saying - Ottawa
said

It is quite obvious with the millions that have been poured in Native Reserves by the Government is not viable. Unless and until they allow someone to go in and address the most serious of what is needed immediately things will not change. Money cannot just keep going in when it is not administered the way it should be by the Band Council the way it should be. If they do not want to negotiate somehow on this then the most vulnerable should be moved to where they will be safe and receive what they need to live.


Proud Albertan
said

It seems to me that as a Reserve, the Federal Government has every right to appoint a third party agent to oversee that THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S MONEY is properly used. In the past much of that money has gone missing, or was inappropriately used, and never met the needs of the people it was meant for. So as a stopgap, this time lets have a third party oversee the money, meanwhile the RCMP can start their investigation into where the "old" money went.


Mo Mo money
said

So more money to do nothing with? How about we ask the residents what they want and need. Forget the Chiefs and their elected officials as obviously they are fine with status quo as they are reaping the benefits. Why is there a need to have a power struggle if people are suffering, do what's best. We all know if the government turns there back on this, and there are fatalities, this will bite them....it's a no win situation...


Attawapiskat
said

Steve, your comment is ridiculous and you know it. No matter what this government does, according to people like you, it is always wrong. This community is being helped, but at the same time, we have to get to the bottom of what happened to all of those taxpayer dollars.


mining guy Jim
said

I get it now. Everywhere else in the world, a third party, arms-length party, is most helpful in resolving disputes between hostile factions, except for Attiwapiskat, where the third party is turned away upon arrival, rather than upon inspection. Thus, the 'management' of Attawapiskat does not want to A. Have the Federal Govt determine where the funds have been spent, and B. are simply crying for more money to cover their shortfalls. My first recommendation would be to sell the new Zamboni...to who? and to use that $40K to move some good people out of their prospector tents. I've spent many years living up in the north, and while there are some very valid concerns when it comes to drinking water and sewage facilities, the rest is just smoke and mirrors. Give us more!


Lynn
said

Perhaps the finances should have been in order and the policies and procedures in place BEFORE accepting the money from the Government. The Canadian Government has the responsibility to ensure that money being sent is being spent properly. Would their be a crises now if the money had been properly spent and looked after in the first place? It may be tough on pride and a tough pill to swallow but the Government has a responsibility. If I provide money for someone to complete a job, and they do not complete the job, is it then my responsibility to pay for them to do it again because it needs to be done? I would be a fool to just provide more money without overseeing that things are being managed properly. This crises was not created by the Government, but it has become the Government's responsibility to clean it up. The people ultimately responsible for this- the ones who accepted the money and did not use the money for what is was meant should be held accountable. And whether or not it's insulting to have a Government official ensure the money the Government provided is being spent properly and going to where the Government intended it to go should not be an issue. I do not doubt that this is now a crises. I do believe that this is a crises that could have, and should have been avoided. That since a state of emergency has been declared, and the discovery of mismanaged funds is the apparent cause of this state of emergency the Government is obligated to practise due dilligence.


JDF-Calgary
said

Sorry, Time for tough love. You cannot ask taxpayers who are losing their jobs and suffering greatly to fund your idyllic, 18th century lifestyle. It is no longer feasible.


John Denson
said

Dictator? What are you talking about? Last time I checked, Harper was elected. And last time I checked, our political system does not allow him to make unilateral decisions. You ever seen all those people in the parliament building arguing and yelling at eachother? I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't, bust jsut so you know, there are many checks and balances in place. Educate yourself before you speak, that way you diminish the prospect of embarrassing yourself


stephen d.belding
said

the goverment needs accountability not recklessness - this money is not from santa clause its from tax payers - get with the program and look after your people as good stewarts not mindless idots......


Trish
said

What is the problem with our government that their response to an emergency is to send in an outside 3rd party manager? The Red Cross has been able to assess that these people need emergency help, the government action has been to bring in a few more heaters/stoves and relocate the residence to more temporary accommodations. How much was spent on other disasters, such as Slave Lake, where they are now living in mobile homes?


Mike
said

How much money did Grand Chief Stan Louttit make last year? When was the last time an audit was conducted on Band Leaders for aboringinal people accross the country? Occupy Canada should consider taking up residence in front of the homes of some of these Band leaders.


B in Ottawa
said

I have never seen such an arrogant man in my life. That band leader is exactly the problem. He does not represent Aboriginals on the reserves. He's not even up on his reserve trying to fix things, he's down here in Ottawa doing television interviews. It's an absolute disgrace. His flight and travel are being paid with taxpayer money that is supposed to be used for the crisis in Attawapiskat. Figure this out, "band leader": instead of taking my tax dollars and jetting all over the place, why don't you use it to help your people for a change? Stop asking for handouts and then wasting it on travel and hospitality. How about paying taxes like every other Canadian. No more free rides for you and your corrupt band council buddies! Canadians are sick and tired of your antics. And then he has the nerve to turn away a third party manager. No wonder there's a crisis. The band leaders are corrupt, and that guy is a perfect example of what's broken about the system. People like him have to go.


CanadaEh?
said

Really? $250,000 per house is what is needed to house the people in this community? I work 8-9 hours a day and have done so for 15 years and I get to live in a $250,000 house. What a sucker I've been....I should have just moved to a reservation and waited for the government to buy me my house. Surely, they could build houses that are safe and warm for less. Also, the government has been giving this community money for years, and apparently, they feel they have been giving them an appropriate amount. If the community feels they are not receiving enough money, then they need to prove they are spending it wisely and do, in fact, deserve and need more. This is tax-payer money, you don't just say you need more and then get offended when someone questions why. That's the process. It's called accountability. If this community has been doing a good job managing their finances like they say they have, then they should just turn their books over to the government and prove it.....why is that so offensive? That's business.


john
said

No problem. no consultant = no money.


Canadian Bob
said

There can be no doubt about the crisis situation in Attawapiskat, however tax dollars from Canadians cannot simply be handed over without some degree of accountability. This situation did not arise overnight, nor will the solution. I support third party management to ensure that that "the community has worked really hard in terms of its finances". Otherwise, it would be foolish to continue to pump money into this or any other community if the funds are not being managed as intended. By dismissing third party management, this community runs the risk of giving the impression that there is something to hide. I would ask just what it is that the people of this community are doing to help themselves. If this community relies solely on government funding to survive, is it not time to either relocate these people so that their lives and their heritage are maintained or establish a path for helping these people gain more financial independence? How many of these people are employed in the diamond mining sector, and what happens to their income? What are the in-place incentives for these people to properly care for their properties and earn a living? So many questions need to be answered. More blanket funding will not work.


House in Order
said

The audit is necessary, as they obviously cannot manage their funds, and blaming the government for "not doing something" is not a solution. They have been given money, but the band leadership has not put their people first. There is no reason except for corruption that the people are living in such poverty. It is the responsibility of their leaders to use the money wisely for the benefit of all. Clearly, that has not been done.Time to stop blaming the government and the white man and take responsibility.In the short term, let's definitely help the people out and ensure they are warm and comfortable for the winter. But I would also like to hear of their long term solutions to the problem, and if it takes another party to manage the money, so be it.This is the 21st century! Time to let go of the past and look after themselves. Corrupt leadership needs to go.


10-78
said

I have figured out the math as the Chief insists I do. I conclude that the reserve system is a failure and living in isolation in the north is not sustainable. Why should the Canadian Tax payer continue to foot this bill? Nobody is forcing native's to live on these reserves. They are welcome to move closer to more developed centres where their communities could have greater access to housing and other public services. If they choose to live in isolation and ask for handouts every year, let them do it on their own tax dollar.


Christine
said

I am the last person that would ever support Steven Harper, but I am with Ottawa on this. Yes, these people need immediate aid and proper housing, the conditions are deplorable. But we also need to investigate where the $90 million in funding went and to ensure thier finances are on the right track. Obviously something is wrong and not to look into it would be a disservice to the people that live there. Of course the band would dismiss the government manager, they don't want them to see where the money really went.


John
said

Yes, they need 10s of millions to fix their homes. They got 10s of millions from the federal government, then the federal manager shacked up with the chief and it went to places other than housing. They got 10s of millions from de Beers too. It went on a fancy healing center so far out of town that no one can get there. It's the community that is ignoring their housing. They're doing this to themselves. Media, stop making us feel guilty.


Wayne Rietze
said

They want more money when they can not explain where the money that they got went. From the amount that they have received they should all be well off. Clearly they are incapable of self governance.


MN_Edmonton
said

Give them some wood and nails...Let them make their own door for their outhouse. These houses did not look like this when you first moved in.


Munky
said

90 million invested in that community since 2006 and nothing to show for it... That's self governence at work! Of course they aren't happy, it means an end to the gravy train


arthur archer
said

Well it the chief will not allow the government to see how it's funds are being spent, the funds should be cancelled. There must be fraud involved by the chief and members of consul or they would welcome the thrid party consultant to review their books and offer his help.


Paul in Newmarket
said

These people don't want to be helped, they just want the cash, again and again.Let's face it, the reservation system simply DOES NOT WORK!We need to find a way to allow them to be self sufficient. We can't afford to carry them this way.And another thing, 200 homes at $250,000 each????? GIVE ME A BREAK!


GUTSHOT!! in Thunder Bay
said

If our representative isnt welcome there, neither is our help or our money. I hope this is the jumping off point for some serious changes in how we have first and second class citizens in this country based on race alone. Im ready for it.


David
said

What is it that you are trying to hide OH GRAND CHIEF? If everything was okay then what is the problem? I understand that you asked for help did you not? Politics at its best, obey the GRAND CHIEF or be forced to go without water and food for how long? Thank you Prime Minister Harper for trying to help.


Sherry
said

I'll tell you how to fix the housing problem. All the homeowners should stop being lazy and fix their home themselves. When my house has a leak, I fix it. I do not call the government. That woman who had mold on her bed should raise it off the ground with some bricks or something. The home problems are so easy to fix, I have seen the the issues and it just takes someone to get off their butts and do the fix with materials around them.


feduptaxpayer
said

So....we only need to spend about another $70M to set this right! But before we do that lets take a look and see how that other $90M got spent shall we. Also it says nowhere in the law that our governement (read those who pay tax) should fund housing for these communities. This coddling we only lead to more dependence - on both the system and illicit drugs.


Steve T
said

What a shock - the "solution" proposed involves yet more money. This has not resolved anything thus far, and in fact has been mismanaged terribly. Why will this time be any different?


Taxpayer
said

More grandstanding if you ask me. Where has the billions of dollars Canadian tax payers give these people every year. With that much money there should be no community with fresh water and adequate housing.


who cares
said

Enough is enough with these people?!?! Scrap the treaty and make them pay taxes and build their own houses like the rest of us... Why also build in such a remote place with no economy? Of course the gov't needs to handle the finances now, 90 million dissapearing usually leads to that.


Paul
said

Sorry guys. You had your chance and you blew it. You proved that you cannot be trusted so now we have to get a babysitter.


steve
said

did you not know. stevie wants to control every aspect of every canadians life. can you say DICTATOR.


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