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Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff questions the government during Question Period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Wednesday May 26, 2010. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff questions the government during Question Period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Wednesday May 26, 2010. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Tuesday Jun. 1, 2010 10:11 PM ET

The president of the Young Liberals has called on Canadian progressive parties to unite to defeat Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Samuel Lavoie told The Globe and Mail that he supports a merger of left-wing federal parties, meaning the Liberals and the NDP, but not the Bloc Quebecois.

"What scenarios are left to impede Harper from radically altering the face of our country in a way a majority of Canadians don't agree with?" he told the paper.

Lavoie said he hoped to spark discussion on the issue for a number of informal party events over the summer.

However, the Conservatives were quick to once again bring up the unpopular, and ultimately failed, 2008-era coalition of Stephane Dion's Liberals, the NDP and the Bloc.

"We can't afford NDP co-management of the economy. And we most certainly cannot afford a policy veto for the Bloc Quebecois -- the glue that made the last Coalition attempt possible," said a Tory memo issued to supporters.

Penny Collenette, a former advisor to prime minister Jean Chrétien, told CTV News Channel's Power Play that talking about a coalition or formal merger before an election is not a realistic possibility.

However, she cited the recent coalition government in the U.K. as an example of voters pushing for parties to work together.

"After an election, what (do) the voters say? They are the boss," she said.

Geoff Norquay, a former communications director for Harper, said that any coalition talk only can hurt Ignatieff.

"Every time a Liberal takes this idea seriously and advances the cause, its more bad news for Mr. Ignatieff," he told Power Play.

"What they are essentially saying to each other, and Canadians, is that he can't come back from where he is now and led (the Liberals) back to government."

A recent Angus Reid Poll said the Conservatives would defeat a coalition headed by Ignatieff. However, it also said a coalition headed by NDP Leader Jack Layton would defeat Harper.

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M.M.B. Ont
said

I see that someone living in The USA knows what is best for Canada better than Canadians do in that we have a strong leader in Mr Harper who is not afraid to stand up to minority groups or any other groups for that matter. He is leading our country well in tough economic times.And to those who complain about the billion dollar price tag on the G8 and G20 summits.. has anyone realized that a big bulk of that money spent will come back in taxes . The wages paid for security is taxable, the food and lodgings is taxable as is the construction costs. GST has to be paid on these items so the gov't should get back a good sum on these expenditures. Therefore Wendy, don't get your knickers all tied up in knots over Harper.. you might walk around with a wedgie!This Liberla idea of a merger is once again a statement from them to say they are the "ENTITLED'Party and I bet Kennedy is behind this. He like Ray left provincial politics to do damage at the federal level.


Stu from London
said

It's hard enough to get support as it is, why alienate the small "l" liberals in the Liberal Party. I would even suggest that there are more centrists in the Liberals Party than "left-wing loonies". Start with some firm policy that'll attract the more centrist Conservative support instead of going the other way.


Dr. T. O. Phat
said

A Liberal & NDP merger is long overdue. A united left is no scarier than the united the right. It would be more representative of the Canadian voters interests. The PCs wandering in the wilderness only ended when the SoCred.Reform>Alliance merged with the remains of the old PCs to form the somewhat right of center Conservative. The old CCF>NDP merging with the LIberals is less of an idealogical gap than the Reform-Conservative merger.Canada is most successfully governed from the center. Sometimes it veers slightly left or right. By Yankee standards even Harper is a left winger.


spaz
said

WOW....2 leaders ????? is that something like a 2 headed snake ????? or a snake with a head at both ends ????Perhaps they can take a page from the history of the Toronto School Board that managed with 2 leaders......where they able to waste the money as before ????


Mark
said

It would too much of an extreme move to the left for the Liberals. Something which would probably keep them out of becoming the next government for years to come. I don't think many Canadians would be too warm to this idea. All you have to do is look at how many people across this great nation do not like the NDP. Canadians are only comfortable being a little left of center or a little right of center, but not much further away then that.


SaskGirl
said

Oh this would be wonderful! Then we would only have one opposition spouting off at the government. Think of what a time saver this will be in Parliament.Seriously, though, I can't see how this would work. I'm not a supporter of either, but I can't imagine that many of their supporters would go for that. The NDP would bankrupt the country and Iggy is just generally unpopular. Not a good combo.


Scot
said

The president of the Young Liberals has called on Canadian progressive parties to unite to defeat Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Samuel Lavoie told The Globe and Mail that he supports a merger of left-wing federal parties, meaning the Liberals and the NDP, but not the Bloc Quebecois.


The president of the Young Librals.
Need's to learn math
Lib's 76
NDP 30 = 106
Tories 144.
So how could the Liberals and NDP
defeat the Goverment if they do not have the number's.They would need the Bloc. To defeat the Tories.


Chris
said

Watch the polls next week! It will be lower than 24% for the libs and less than 10 for NDP. They will be done for good. How they can be so dumm!!They will merge and the Conservative will be with a MAJORITY.


Lz in Edmonton
said

Fantastic Idea. A two party system. However, since the NDP have nothing in common with the 84% of Canadians, that should be a great end to the liberal party. Just one question, who would lead that group?


Donaldbain
said

Wow. Have these people been tested for drugs or perhaps early senility? No way would Canadians elect Layton or Ignatieff to PM in a combined NDP/Liberal barf bag. Adding Rae to the mix is bordering on hysterical, he also will never lead Canada. His horror story premiership put that dream to bed. Come up with a leader, a real leader, not some talking heads in clown shoes. I have said before the Liberal downfall is leadership, look at Pierre Trudeau, he was no movie star but he pulled the country along by force of will and people followed. Turner was no leader, Chretien was because he worked under Trudeau and learned, Martin not a leader (backstabber), Dion not a leader (clueless dilletante) and now Ignatieff, (virtual non-Canadian) and he is not a leader for us either. Get your act together and come to us when you have someone we can get behind, otherwise get out of the way and let someone else run the country.


Adam
said

Harper is doing what the MAJORITY of Canadians want. Make his day and merge.


Duane
said

Once again the NDP would use the desire of a weak Liberal party and leader to gain for themselves a position that they neither deserve or have the ability to gain on their own.


Wes
said

Lets see.......a majority of Canadians dont want the Conservatives, and a majority of Canadians dont want the liberals and a vast majority of Canadians dont want the NDP.So what about the Green Party........does no one want Ms.May?


Jim McB
said

Another Liberal pipe dream makes the media headlines: one generated by more media headines in the UK. It should be attempted however so that the Conservative ranks in the country can swell bolstered by the "reasonable" Liberals that would jump ship.The NDP is incompatible with the Liberal Party compared with the CPC. Many Libs are fiscal conservatives but a bit more left wing on social issues. It would be easier for the CPC to accommodate them by moving slightly left of centre rather than them moving far left like the socialists.Like the Liberal Leader, the Young Libs see themselves as entitled to run this country by any method possible. The one they keep rejecting is by developing reasonable and appealing policy. I guess that is harder that creating a coalition with others that under any other circumstances will never form government.This is just another classless act by a flagging party. Only in Canada you say ..... pity!


Wendy
said

We have to do something Harper's extravagant spending is going to bankrupt Canada, 3 day parties costing over a billion dollars. A coalition is a good option to rid us of this wasteful government.


NS
said

This would give the Bloc even more power...big mistake!! The first change in federal parties should be removing the Bloc, they do not truthfully represent Canada, as a FEDERAL party should! Enough with the loop holes, knock down the Bloc! I would be happy with either other party, just not an American PM.


shelly
said

Led by whom? Jack layton doubt it would fly.Bob Rae, who is hated in Ontario, that wouldn't work .Iffy , his numbers are too low They can want this merge all they like, they will rive some liberals into the conservativ camp, without a doubt.


Drew in NS
said

The one thing this country doesn't need is a socilist left wing government. Ask Greece how socialism is working for them. Only four years of a Bob Rae Government proved this right


Buford Wilson
said

We are very, very fortunate that Mr Harper successfully put down the coup attempt after the last election.Can you you imagine the pickle we'd be in now had Dion, Duceppe and Jack Layton formed a coalition government?


Joe
said

This is a conservative dream. Please merge the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ hugh--pei: Are you kidding?! Installing former failed Ontario NDP Premier Bob Rae as Liberal leader would be another gift to the Conservatives. He has more politically toxic baggage than anybody. The people of Ontario (a critical province for Liberals) haven't forgotten his deadly touch. Go ahead and spin that chamber on your partisan gun one more time, for another round of roulette.


Stephen B
said

I would love to see such a merger. First, it would be entertaining to see what the various planks of the platform would look like and all the foolishness getting there.Second, It would guarantee a Conservative Party majority, which would serve Canada well.


Tim from Calgary
said

Makes sense. After all, a failed NDPer as Rae is seems to be running the Liberal party now. Funny that the people of Ontario got rid of Rae and his provincial NDP government as fast as they could. But now they are praising him as the de facto leader of the federal Liberals. Only in Ontario.


Tim from Calgary
said

The so-called Young Liberals were also the ones who insulted every single Canadian by using that idiotic slogan "It's the constitution, idiot". What does that tell you? That the Young Liberals are just as arrogant as the 'senior' Liberals are about their god-given right to govern Canada.


MARG MM
said

I don't really think that Canadians are ready for a socialist Government. It has become evident that the Liberals are leaning in that direction though. I believe, as some have said, that the Liberals who are less socialistic, will bolt to the Conservatives who now lean towards the center. If they run as Liberal/NDP in the next election, hopefully Canadians will not give them a mandate. If they merge after an election,and the BLOC are involved, I think most Canadians will be outraged.


Portes
said

And the Liberals go on and on about their wonderful party and yet the polls tell a different story. If the NDP and the Liberals were to merge that would be the end of both parties. I don't think the Liberal leadership wants to commit suicide. Harper has done a good job considering he is always being threatened with an election.It seems strange that the Liberals on this site love to name call and yet when the Conservatives do they get yelled at.


The View from Niagara
said

This is exactly why the Liberals have the become an irrelevant party in this country. Should a marger between the clueless NDP and the inept Liberal Party ever occur, most centrist Liberals will quickly gravitate to the Conservatives. Nobody wants an NDP supporter anywhere near the peiolous affairs of our economy. More proof that the Liberals are completely out of touch with ordinary Canadians.


jj
said

I would love to see a merger between the liberals and the NDP.The resulting conservative majority government would be really great for Canada.


Logan
said

Funny how most of the negative comments about Harper are coming from Alberta and BC. Crazy Liberal supporters. I bet if the Liberals got back into power, our tax rate would shoot to 25% and instead of funneling it back into programs, they'll just stuff it in their pockets like the last time they were in power.


d_abes in Saskatoon
said

The Libs and Cons are way closer ideologically than the Libs and NDP.No way this would happen, and now way the voters would go for it if it does.As for the CONS and CAP doing it, they did it before an election, not after like the Young Libs are suggesting. Present your package to the voters, don't pull it on them after.


Jake in Florida
said

What the lefties do not understand is that they will remain a rudderless ship until they find a leader. A leader who is unafraid to state his opinions irregardless of media objections. A leader who will lead his country into prosperity and away from special interest group demands. For this generation of Canadians, Prime Minister Stephen Harper has proudly demonstrated the strongest leadership skills of any nation!


Drew in NS
said

Does this mean that when you vote Liberal you’re voting NDP. Let’s ask a die hard Liberal if this is true, anyone seen Bob Rae.After Mr. Dexter's first year as Premier of NS, the New Democratic Liberals can be assured of the NS Vote (Sarcasm Alert)


Ben, Edmonton
said

Realize that nobody cares what the president of "The Young Liberals" says.Must be a slow news day.


Troy in B.C.
said

Unite the left and stand with conviction behind centrist, common sense solutions ... fight fire with fire, and send this Neo-Con thug and his troglodyte cabinet packing. Harper has to go!


Jim - North Saanich, BC
said

In light of what the liberal/socialist agenda has inflicted on much of Europe given current economic woes, we most certainly don't need it in Canada! If the Liberal Party of Canada would find a leader of substance, it might well form a majority government on its own. Until that day comes, it is dealing with its own self-inflicted gunshot wound and seems unwilling to acknowledge that. While I have no particular liking for either the Liberals or the Conservatives, I have no interest whatever in seeing another Liberal/NDP coalition like that in the early 1970s as we will never fully recover financially from that disaster.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

The real problem for the Liberals and the NDP is the country continues to move to the right. In many ways it was already trending that way under Jean Chrétien -- who could talk the Liberal talk but walked a centre right policy course without bold new programs or big tax increases. Ironically it was under Paul Martin, perhaps in pursuit of the goal of distinguishing himself from Chrétien, that the Liberals became liberal and lost power.


John in Calgary
said

Merge with the NDP, get a new leader ... sing a song, do a dance ... hang upside down until you turn blue in the face ... just do something right for a change and get this bozo-the-clown PM of ours on EI. Enough is enough!


Chris in Kingston
said

There you have it, folks. The Liberals are not a centrist party, they are just like the left-wing NDP. At least when the Reform and Conservatives combined, they were both self-identified as being at the right end of the spectrum. The Liberals are whatever wing gets them the most votes.


Earthwatcher
said

First of all I don't see the leading hacks in the Liberal party actually wanting to merge with the NDP. Secondly if they did I don't believe it would lead to more votes in a federal election, on the contrary it would drive voters away in even more record numbers. Canadians are centrists, be slightly to the left or right during any political mood swing. To think they would endorse a party that would drive us further to the left is neither palatable nor do I think possible.


Ian in North Bay
said

A Liberal / NDP coalition lead by Mr Layton is probably the most destructive concept to the Canadian economy possible. It you think your taxes and the national debt are too too high now...just imagine what will happen after 6 months of Jack in charge.


SK Lib
said

The NDP and the Libs are way too different...it'll never wash, at least not with me...


Max Wedge
said

A truly stupid idea.All you'd get is the reluctant defection of centrist Liberals to the Conservatives.Net result; essentially a 2 party system with neither truly owning the center....and the BQ being the kingmaker veto holder to either.Great idea...not as if Quecbec interests aern't over-represented already.kids....


hugh--pei
said

I had voted conservative my entire life untill Day showed up. Then Harper put the icing on the cake.At the moment im still going to vote Lib, but I do think that Iggy has to go. Dion and now Iggy , thanks Gerrard Kennedy you p---k. I think that the Libs will have to put Bob Rae in the drivers seat to get my vote. I am one pissed off voter at the moment. Coallition? only if Rae is at the helm.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

I guess that Michael Ignatieff has grown so politically weak and disrespected that now the President of the "Junior Liberals" has been authorized by the LPC to float nutty balloons and call the kooky shots. It gets sadder and more pathetic each day in Iggy's world, folks. (On a serious note; the idea has merit...if you get excited about the parliamentary implosion of Canada, and our national political, economic, and social decline...or, the backlash decimation of the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc. )


Nathan B
said

A coalition is the "nuclear" option. The politics of deterrence apply.


neilpk70
said

Can't afford NDP input? What a hoot. We can't afford a billion dollars for a three day fat cat meeting. Conservatives have always been penny wise, pound foolish!


Tanner
said

I would hate to see that.....Being in power has brought the Conservatives to the Centre of the political spectrum, if the Liberals went left, they'd be "out in left field" as they say. Canadians have always and will always elect the party that is closest to the centre. Canadians are not socialists, we are not left wing, we are Centre/Centre right. We need to stay that way for us to have any standing on the world stage....because our main actors are the ones in uniform. Our current gov't has done a fine job on bringing back the pride in our military.


Daniel from Toronto
said

Stephane Dion's failed attempt should be a reminder to the people and to the Liberals and NDP that coalitons work only if the parties can get along, and in fact Layton despised Dion which evidently led to the Dismissal of Dion as Liberal party Leader. Stephen Harper might be a bit of an idiot at times but he sure isnt as bad as BUSH was.


Steve
said

The Cons merged so it is OK for them to do it. Bring on the fear mongering Cons. This could be a good idea if it is done properly


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