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George Galloway moves to Plan B: video link
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Date: Mon. Mar. 30 2009 10:28 PM ET
A Federal Court upheld a decision to block outspoken British MP George Galloway from entering Canada, but organizers of his speaking tour had a back-up plan Monday: he appeared in Toronto via video link.
Roughly 500 people gathered inside the city's Metropolitan United Church to hear -- and watch -- Galloway speak on a large screen.
Although the speech focused on the war in Afghanistan and the most recent conflict in the Gaza Strip, Galloway frequently mocked Immigration Minister Jason Kenney.
Although the decision to block Galloway was made by Canadian Border Services Agency, Kenney has said he will not intervene in the ruling.
"Come out and debate me like a man, Jason Kenney," Galloway said at one point. The speech was broadcast from New York.
After a judge upheld CBSA's ruling, organizers for Galloway's speaking tour said they did not want to try to escort him across the border.
"We're not interested in doing anything illegal whatsoever," organizer James Clark, a peace activist, told The Canadian Press.
"Our expectations were such that we were already implementing Plan B, which was to make sure that he can still deliver the speech from a live broadcast."
Earlier Monday, Justice Luc Martineau delivered a 14-page ruling that upheld a decision by Canadian Border Services Agency to block Galloway, who is currently in the United States.
"A fundamental principle of immigration law is that non-citizens do not have an unqualified right to enter in Canada," wrote Martineau.
"The admission of a foreign national to this country is a privilege determined by statute, regulation or otherwise, and not a matter of right."
Parliament has given CBSA officers the right to determine who is admissible, he said.
Martineau wrote while there have been serious arguments raised against the decision to keep Galloway out, "a proper factual record and the benefit of full legal argument" are missing.
The applicants didn't meet the necessary legal tests for him to issue an order allowing Galloway entry, the judge wrote.
Earlier this month, border security officials deemed Galloway inadmissible saying he was guilty of providing material support for terrorism.
Galloway had been part of a caravan that had delivered humanitarian aid to Gaza following the Israeli military incursion there. He also gave a $45,000 donation to Hamas, which the government said in a letter to the MP is a banned terrorist organization in this country.
Last week, Galloway told CTV's Power Play that ambulances and medical supplies must be delivered through Hamas because they are the democratically elected government in the Gaza Strip. He also said he does not support Hamas.
The Canadian Jewish Congress praised the court's decision Monday. In a written statement, CJC Co-President Sylvain Abitbol said "Canadians fully understand that fundraising for international terrorism puts us all at risk here at home and endangers our brave troops fighting terrorism on the front lines overseas."
Laith Marouf, chapter co-ordinator for Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights, and one of the organizers for Galloway's Canadian visit, said the British MP had no other option but to deal with Hamas.
"When (officials) enter Gaza, they have to deal with the democratically elected government of the people, which happens to be Hamas," he told CTV Newsnet.
"So even the Red Cross and the Red Crescent, when they go in and want to work in a hospital, they have to deal with the government that is there... It's a bit ironic that the Canadian Jewish Congress thinks that the Red Cross and Red Crescent and others are allowed to work in Palestine, but Mr. Galloway is not."
What's next for Galloway?Galloway was initially scheduled to speak in person Monday night before a Toronto audience, followed by appearances in Ottawa, Montreal and Mississauga, Ont. in the coming days.
Organizers had been planning a solidarity caravan to meet Galloway at the border Monday morning.
"The caravan was planned before we knew the Federal Court decision would drag out until today," Marouf said Monday.
Galloway, who has previously spoken in Canada, most recently in 2006, is a controversial figure.
His opposition to the Iraq war got him kicked out of the British Labour Party in 2003, but he won re-election in 2005 running under the banner of his Respect party.
The Scottish MP's performance on Capital Hill in 2005 was one for the ages. He called the panel of senators grilling him about allegations he had accepted bribes from the regime of deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
He called them a "lickspittle Republican committee" and accused them of "the mother of all smoke screens."
In 2007, the British parliament's lower house suspended him for 18 days based on allegations he had concealed his dealings with the Hussein regime with respects to a charity he had established.
Galloway said his attackers were being hypocrites because no British political party asked people who donated to them where the money had come from.
With files from The Canadian Press
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Conservattive Canadian
said
So if free speech isn't important, you won't mind if I tell you that you have no right to post here anymore. As you say, there are too many opinions anyway.
As for the government "caring" enough to impose its views, good point. Nothing better than a dictator to care for the people and tell them what to think. It makes being conservative so easy...
jay
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I know some people think the charter of rights applies to non canadians.That is not the case sao no free speech does not apply here.Should he have been allowed in yes and if he says anything then arrest him if not so no big deal.
Gord
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bad press
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I don't think his words are a reason to keep him out, but if the allegations that he gave money to terrorist groups are true (and who knows..?) then he should stay out...
In any event this guy is little threat to us...it is funny to see us far right of the US all of a sudden...
AlbertaBoy111
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"Why is it that when an undesirable is not allowed in Canada - he/she gets to take us to Court at our expense in our country??????????? What would China, Russia or any other country do in the same instance - you guessed it....nothing!!! We should do the same!!!"
Thats exactly the point. Do you want Canada to be more like Russia and China? Really? Because I for one don't I think we should be moving as far away as possible from the way those countries govern themselves and the rights they take away from their citizens. I mean China blocks youtube whenever something on it disagrees with their party views. Is that what you really want for Canada? Guess it explains Harpers power base.
Cindi Latimer
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TRENT
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This man gave aid to people who Western governments would let starve (or die under air assault).
He's no more a threat to our national security than George Bush.
But we should value the principle of free speech and we should be defending that principle.
Otherwise the Afghans and everyone else should 'consider the source' and decline our teachings.
Canada is supposed to stand on principle not cower to propaganda and fear.
I AM ashamed today!
bill from edmonton
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Kathy
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Terry S.
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This is Canada
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Caden Toronto
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Remarkable
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The Laws of this nation say that is a criminal activity if you raise funds for certain organizations that this nation deems as terrorists and this man has done exactly that.
For those of you who are new in this country, you must all understand, that this country is a peace loving nation, not a nation that is looking for someone like this man, who is just looking to create chaos.
This Is Our Land
said
I'm glad the courts banned this man from entering Canada.
The law of this land is the law of this land and this man has given money to a terrorist organization and that is a good enough reason to keep this man from coming into Canada.
DJ
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Yes, some will argue that this is some sort of right wing plot because he was allowed entry in 2006 so why not now? Rubbish!
More likely is that the last three years has proven that Hamas is only interested in terror and a change in governemnt policy, or process at CBSA has denied his entry this time.
MHB
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John
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Tom
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CD
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Rob
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outrage with the minority always gettingtheir way
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Tom
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1. Use a web cam and internet. Or
2. Galloway gives his speech to someone who is a resident here to recite his idea.
3. Use the old technology - telephone.
4. Sent out his script via email.
If people are so much into the free speech. He is blocked entry by the immigration, and support by the Liberal appointed judge. If the PM has a way to convince the Liberal appointed judges, he wouldn't have the tough time to jail the criminals.
Michael from Toronto
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Discrimination is not always a bad thing - we want to discriminate against people like Galloway. Discrimination also means being able to perceive differences. He can say whatever he wants but he is not a Canadian and does not have to be granted the privilege of entry.
We don't want your kind in Canada, Galloway. Get stuffed!
Jack T from Newmarket
said
HAH-HA!
Finally a judge who recognizes that they do not have the right to create law themselves and overrule the policies of the elected government, or the expert administrative decisions of the designated agency (in this case, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA)).
This decision reflects the opinion of mainstream middle-class Canada who did not want this terrorist fundraiser to be allowed into the country.
JT in Van-city
said
If he loves Gaza so much, let him go and live there and let him stay out of Canada! The money collected for the Tamil Tigers is embarrassment enough for Canada!
gandi
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I am more worried about what our stupid government is going to do for us vs. George posing a "national security" threat!!!
javajim
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Rick
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"I am embarrassed to be a Canadian today."
Maybe when you wake up to your freedom again tomorrow you will be proud to be a Canadian again.
Sad
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Gail (Hamilton)
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alberto zepeda
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I don't buy this British version of Mother Theresa poster here want me to believe.
Freedon of speech here in CAnda is a right of the citizens of this country. In the same way that I would not be aloud to express my strongs opinoins publicly as a foreigner in a Musilm country, so it is here...that is if there is freedom of speech in those countries. Our freedom of speech is not the right to whosoever wants but to whosoever is.
Take care
Freedom
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At last, a half decent court decision.
Peter in Edmonton
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kc in alberta
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I never said anything about Hamas or what they stand for.
I said my Canadian soldier husband fought for the ideals of free and unoppressed speech.
Please learn to read before you choose to speak.
jay
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The issue is this is a very slippery slope were on.People claim this is all about free speech.Ok but are there limits say someone who has hates canada comes and and says his or her thing and causes a riot.When do we say no you can't come in.Now with that said i am not saying galloway would say anything and he does not seem to hate canada.But if he comes in then do we let everyone in.
Jasper
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Concerned Canadian
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That said, it seems a bit absurd to argue that he is a danger on any grounds, unless it's the grounds that he's a danger to Conservative politicians support of the Gaza offensive. Canadian citizens will have to decide whether keeping Mr. Galloway out of Canada is appropriate or whether it is merely an act of cowardice on this government's part.
But there are other issues here as well- when Dow chemical wanted to sell its herbicide here in Canada, but was barred by a Quebec judge, the Conservative posters were outraged (see Friday's articles). This was apparently an infringement on their right to choose (even though they were "choosing" to pollute our mutual environment).
But if the government steps in an blocks people from speaking, then this is fine with them.
So you'd rather have Dow chemical be allowed to import poison than allow opinions different from your own? Keep our borders safe from thoughts, not potentially cancer-causing agents?
And what about all those complaints about "activist judges" that the right made when the Supreme Court struck down laws against gay marriage? Now judges interpreting the Constitution seems just fine- provided it supports a position you favour.
It guess it's possible to believe almost anything, provided you remain insensitive to your own logical inconsistency.
May from Ottawa
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Any one how supported Saddam’s Regime and still supporting other terrorist group like Hamas,… deserves this treatment.
Trent
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Maybe then you'll start to understand how poisoned your minds have ll become from this right-wing propaganda machine.
Shame on you for caving to this rot and not having the guts to stand for principle instead of what's popular.
Pathetic.
I'm embarrassed to be Canadian today.
PJT
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MIike from Calgary
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marlin
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Andy from Calgary
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We are a free people … who should be able to be hear and say what we would like.
Prynce
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Pat
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Stop and Think
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Rick in SK
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What group is Canada at war with that Galloway has given support to, and in what form has that support benefited them?
Are you kidding??? Even Galloway doesn't deny doing so. Don't be lazy, just google it.
Rob
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What an absolutely pathetic, narrow minded comment... Democracy and freedom of speech are seriously threatened by fascists in our country.
FreakAlert
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Ontario Taxpayer
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Calloway can come chill at my place anytime.
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Diane M.
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draft anti-war protesters? WHAT???
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Don't you think people who want Canada to be in this war and haven't signed up to actually go and fight it themselves should be drafted first?
What's a worse moral crime?
A) cheering others into a war that you yourself would NEVER actually sign up to fight in
or
B) protesting a war because you are fundamentally against it?
Come on! There is absolutely no question that category A deserves to be at the front lines far more than category B!
Darren
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GJ
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This is a slippery slope, and total bs. I dont care one way or the other about this fool, and dont really want to hear what he has to say , but I do care about the muzzling of a person's voice via some arbitrary decision of a civil servant.
If the US see's fit to allow him in, given their nonsense at the borders, so should Canada, or are we taking the US's place in the stage of the world from the last 8 years and carrying it forward?
reidjr
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Did your goverment do the exact same thing.
Alberta Believer
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This section is double edged. First it implies that a limitation on freedom of speech prescribed in law can be permitted if it can be justified as being a reasonable limit in a free and democratic society. Conversely, it implies that a restriction can be invalidated if it cannot be shown to be a reasonable limit in a free and democratic society. The former case has been used to uphold limits on legislation which are used to prevent hate speech and obscenity.[citation needed]"
Yeah ME.
Also in 2008 the Federal Court of Appeal said that Canadian Charter Rights do NOT apply to non Canadians residing outside of Canada.
The whole principle of free expression is lost on these left-wing loons who are failing in their attempts to make us see the "virtue" in their politics. These same idiots do nothing and say nothing with regards to the Human Rights Commissions which routinely trample the rights of Canadians here at home. See while they understand their own whacky politics, simple legal principles pass over their heads!
zombies vs. zombies
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"Mr. Galloway can address his flock of left-wing "anti-war" zombies and terrorist sympathizers by way of telephone or video feed. They can still have their political jollies."
Just as you right-wing "pro-war" zombies and terrorist ghost chasers can get your jollies by watching video feeds and still images of the war beamed in via the internet with its ever-changing justifications.
These video broadcasts are especially useful for war-mongering chickenhawks, because they get to cheer it all on from a safe distance knowing they'll never have to actually participate themselves as long as they stare blankly and chant "support the troops" with cult-like fervor.
Roger T
said
Banning and restricting to a point where preachers can't speak is same as believing in communism within a party/country.
Let him speak his mind!
Chuck in NB
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How can this be an argument.
He should not have access to our great country, period.
Herb
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Rick
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Let's Get Real People
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Canada is on a fast track to being a laughing stock of the world by trying to appease every person who crys. Enough is enough, already. I have to wonder if the people that want a "anything goes" society have any clue of what they are throwing away. My guess is...no. Sad!!
Leo
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Roger UK
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Rob in Victoria
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Jimmy Toronto
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chris
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w. Joosub Mississauga
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KMC (Markham, ON)
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It is not a "freedom of speech" issue and he was not barred by what some, on here, have referred to as "neo cons" i.e. the Federal Government.
Galloway was barred from entry by Canada's Border Security Services, as they are required to do under Canada's antterrorism laws.
What Canada's Border Sucurity Services did, in barring Galloway was the perfectly correct procedure under the law.
Jason Kenney did NOT bar Galloway from entering Canada, he simply did not move to overturn the legal decision of Canada's Border Security Services.
Of course, the Ignatieff and the Liberals, the Bloc and that thoroughly unpleasant little man, Jack Layton, are trying to make it a "freedom of speech" issue hoping to gain some political points.
Brandon, Alberta
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cg
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mike
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It's a sad day for Canada.
Mr Chillz
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I am disgusted with this special interest group. They are fueling more hatred for themselves and it is well deserved.
Roland Godin
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JackR
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Good. Keep this agitator out of Canada. I can't understand why some of you leave your home countries because you're sick of the fighting and the discrimination and hostilities. And yet you want to drag us into this. What the hell is wrong with you people. Go home if you want to kill each other.
Not deluded in Calgary
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Is he being kept out?
Not if he is still making the speach via video or over the phone.
His message is still being heard. The only difference is that his warm fleshy bits aren't here.
Surely those are the least important parts of the issues at hand here.
So a lot of money was spent to pretend to prevent something that is going to happen anyways. AND he got a boatload of free press he would not have gotten anyways.
Personally, I think he is laughing his ass off over the whole affair.
Vince M
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YOU as a Canadian have the Constitutional right to free speech in Canada.
Foreigners DO NOT.
Check your facts before spouting your left wing hatered.
Reg Guy
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Dunny from Manotick
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Peter in Edmonton
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Yeah yeah yeah. Same old don't-wanna-face-the-truth Liberals.
Glol Samudra
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What is the difference between Terrorism of Israel and Hamas ? Brutality and war crimes - committed by both but Israel is the worst devil.
fed up Canadian
said
I wonder why he wasn't reprimanded by the speaker of the house ... or is this a
double standard that we are expected to accept as Canadians ...
It's really time for an election .... we need a government that will represent the views and opinions of Canadians ..... not a government that cherry picks ..... who ever gave them that right ??? They seem to think it is their divine right to tell us what's best ... rather than listen and respond to our wishes and desires ....
Good Choice
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Kevin
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the only explanation is this is purely political.
Justice Luc Martineau should be banned from Canada. Please don't detain me indefinitely for that opinion.
relieved Canadian
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Mike
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Greg in the Hammer (the real one)
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Galloway IS NOT A CANADIAN CITIZEN.
Hence HE DOES NOT have the right to say whatever he wants in our country.
Free speech does not include the right to support and raise money for terrorism, terrorist groups, or churches or social groups that support terror activities.
Robert - Mtl
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A foreigner who wants to come to this country must ask for permission when they approach immigration. Not everyone can just show up at the border and unilaterally be given access.
Good on the Border Services Agency for denying him access. They are truly looking out for the interests of ALL Canadians.
We don't need another nut-head, propaganda artist spreading more trash in our country. We have enough of it, thank you very much...
Matt
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DCR-Toronto
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Savant
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Richard L. Provencher
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Munro - Brampton
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Pip
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Well, we have laws and regulations about who can be allowed into the country. The government and Galloway's lawyers made their presentations to the Judge and he ruled that "The applicants didn't meet the necessary legal tests for him to issue an order allowing Galloway entry."
That is our law, and applies to anyone entering the country. Ask any immigration officer: it is they who determine if a person may enter the country. In Galloway's case, foreknowledge was available for the minister to instruct that he be denied entry, a decision backed up by our courts.
What would be truly embarrassing is for a judge to deny our immigration officers the ability to do the job we as a nation pay them to do. Had the judge ruled in Galloway's favor, our borders would have been wide open for months, with every Tom Dick and Harry appealing their refusal of entry, until such time as either the Supremes ruled in favor of the Government, or, if against, until Parlaiment passed a law that would stand up to appeal. As it is, the law has been tested and upheld - so far.
In any case, it seems, according other news reports, that Galloway has already made arrangements to make his speech by video link. Perhaps, given his inflammatory past, he should have done that in the first place. But no, he is a radical politician - witness his 2005 appearance before a U.S. senate committee, and his suspension from the British parliament - and needs all the publicity he can get.
We are well off with his absence from Canadian soil.
Mario
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Red X
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Chris
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Notice how anytime people go against the grain they are shut up - that's because "the MAN" doesn't want the truth out.
caper
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Having my say in Ontario
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Connie (Calgary)
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Braden
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hadan
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Ignore the Zionest Lobby that kept him in.
Prof. Pye Chartt
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Mr. Galloway can address his flock of left-wing "anti-war" zombies and terrorist sympathizers by way of telephone or video feed. They can still have their political jollies.
(Aside: The fact that he roams the U.S., however, is quite noteworthy and troubling, politically.)
Mr. Galloway is one of these oppositional, confrontational, contrarian instigators who would fight and argue against gravity if he could successfully anger enough people publicly and garner the support of enough mush-heads.
Folks like him are clever manipulators, and enjoy the right of free speech and free association to further their UNDERLYING views and agenda. The Canadian Jewish Congress has had his number for quite a while.
He's an obnoxious clown without the honest balls to preach many of his REAL thoughts and beliefs.
Ryan in Burlington
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We can't push our beliefs in the faces of other people and countries and expect to be accepted under "their rights" or rule of law.
Responsibility has to be taken when exercising one's rights. People don't understand this and that is the exact reason this country and world is so completely screwed up!
There is freedom of speech and there is responsibility of speech. Until people understand that the two lie hand in hand, this kind of garbage will continue to happen.
Just get a grip! People who scream about "their rights" are the same people who have no clue what it's like to live without them.
BREID
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Israel is a country that destroyed a weaker neighbour and this man cared and assisted those in need...last time I checked that is what we as Canadians are supposed to stand for. If his speeches are against war...WONDERFUL...war is cruel, nasty and hateful. We should all be anti-war, but for our brave men and women overseas..the 2 are not exclusionary
Mark from Brampton
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I would have preferred to see this gentleman arrested and thrown in prison for trying to enter the country - however just turning him away will do for now.
Ted
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Lisa
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Free country? Free speech? No longer!!!!
Ms.Bell
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Brian B
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Thank you judge for making correct decision
Dave in Surrey
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IRPR
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BC_Laura
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Have you checked what Hamas' idea of a free and unoppressed society are? Give your head a shake! If you think for one second that a society ruled by Hamas is free and unoppressed, I suggest you go live there and observe how well they treat their women. And you encourage a man who supports such an organization? SHAME ON YOU!
Reuben
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"The admission of a foreign national to this country is a privilege determined by statute, regulation or otherwise, and not a matter of right."
He has no right to come into this country and say whatever he wants. However, the people of Canada do, and they made their voices heard. But unfortunately for them, the government and courts disagreed. We may have freedom of speech and expression in this country, but we also have laws and rules.
ME
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The constitutional provision that guarantees Freedom of expression in Canada is section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: ... (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication
Due to section 1 of the Charter, the so-called limitation clause, Canada's freedom of expression is not absolute and can be limited under certain situations. Section 1 of the Charter states:
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. (emphasis added)
This section is double edged. First it implies that a limitation on freedom of speech prescribed in law can be permitted if it can be justified as being a reasonable limit in a free and democratic society. Conversely, it implies that a restriction can be invalidated if it cannot be shown to be a reasonable limit in a free and democratic society. The former case has been used to uphold limits on legislation which are used to prevent hate speech and obscenity.[citation needed]
Matt in Cornwall
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Chuck - Edmonton
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discover_bilderberger
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Kevin in Alberta
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Sane & Reasonable Canadian
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Ian K
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Galloway could have given his money and the ambulances to the U.N., the Red Crescent or the Red Cross among others. Instead, he gave money etc to Hamas, an organization generally recognized as terrorist. Thereby, he freed-up Hamas money for arms purchases.
The fact that Hamas is the elected government in Gaza is irrelevant. If people decide to elect terrorists, we are not ethically or legally obligated to deal with that government or its proxies like Mr. Galloway.
Nor is this an issue of free speech. Canadians can listen to him via video-feed, or through the internet or through other news sources. No one is trying to censor him and prevent Canadians from learning about his 'ideas.'
We are are not constitutionally or morally obligated to provide him a platform within Canada itself.
Frankly, why would anyone want to hear the 'ideas' of a man who put in good words for Saddam Hussein? To do that is either a sign of incredibly poor political judgment - in which case, why trust what he says about Hamas or Afghanistan? - or he's publicity hound - in which case his sincerity on any issue is dubious.
Andre
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The man definitely is a terrorist supporter but until he breaks the law in Canada, I am not sure how he can be kept out.
Spud Lite
said
The guy has already received a lot of attention. It might be interesting to discover whether it was warranted.
So let him in.
Alberta Believer
said
Once again buddy, this isn't about the politics of your left-wing politics, it should be about the principle of freedom of speech. Again the right battle for free speech is here at home and it starts and ends with the Human Rights Commissions of this country. Go online find the one for your province and the federal Human Rights Commissions. There you'll see fines awarded against people for simply speaking their minds. Life time bans handed down against people, banning them from speaking on a particular topic. People being forced to write and then publish apologies, all in a supposed democratic country.
Forget about whether or not you agree with what was said or the contents of the message, the fact is simple as we are dealing with a baisc legal principle, that is the right to free speech. That right exists, however the right not to be offended does not exist in our constitution nor in our common law.
So if you wanna get mad about free speech, forget about Galloway, Bush or another foreigner coming to this country as they have no rights here and securing the rights of Canadians in Canada supercedes the rights of foreigners in Canada.
I don't care about Galloway, whether or not he's a terrorist, I couldn't give a damn. What I do care about is whether or not one of you will get hauled before a Human Rights Tribunal in Canada and forced to explain what you were thinking when you wrote a particular article. And boys and girls, this is already happening here at home.
J.C.
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Doug Calgary
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Mary from Ottawa
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Gigi
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dawn
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Bluenose
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A breath of fresh air to see our system making smart decisions like this. This Galloway idiot should definitely not been allowed in, however if it was me making the decisions, I'd let him in, and have him met at arrivals, arrest him, and send him straight to Gitmo. The UK may let this nut case run around their country, but we won't.
JMB
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(actually likely written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall, but since it is always attributed to Voltaire...)
Paul R
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dale
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BMM
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In other words, he was not barred from entering Canada by our Border Protection Services in order to prevent him from speaking. He was barred entry because he is an avowed supporter of terrorism. And unlike what the left is saying it is not because he led an aid convoy into Gaza. It is because Mr. Galloway is an overt supporter of Hamas.
He proved that when he gave the leader of Hamas a personal donation of 25K BP and a gift of three personal vehicles (In return the leader of Hamas made him a citizen, passport included). This was not aid money it was money for Hamas (not the Palestinian government) to do with what they like....
G
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Bill in BC
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It's over. Carry on.
Leo B
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John in Vancouver
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Wanda in NB
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Jon Halifax
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Oh wait, when the real terrorists come to Canada, we will just blame the USA anyways...
Matthew
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People are combining two separate issues: free speech and immigration.
Terry
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Chris in NB
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Firstly: He is not a Canadian Citizen, thus, he has no "right" to enter the country. The Government has the duly elected right to determine who is and is not allowed to enter our borders.
Secondly (and most importantly): The Law is the law, and applies equally to both the lowliest commoner as it does to the most reverred politician. He gave money to a Terrorist Organization, ergo he supports Terrorism, thus: He is denied entry into Canada. It would/should be no different for ANYONE else who gives money to a Terrorist organization. They too would be persona non-grata.
Jim Lad
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T. Hull
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People tend to focus on patriotic flag-waving for the past and present killing-sprees-for-freedom that they fail to see the gradual erosion of freedoms taking place here at home, by politicians who fear and suppress dissenting opinion, and the like-minded citizens who vote for them.
Kevin from Windsor
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Hamas is not an underdog, not a humanitarian organization, it is a terrorist organization and hides behind civilians and ambulances. Anyone that supports them should be arrested.
James in ottawa
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Jude
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Whether you like him or not, whether you agree with him or not; the issue is our 'leaders' making decisions on what we ourselves are allowed to believe, hear or speak about. And the worst part of it is, it's not even the government making the decision...it's a lobby group. Go go Canadian democracy.
chad
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Rioting and shutting out Israeli politician Benjamin Netanyahu at Concordia U. in 2002; violently protesting jornalist Daniel Pipes' speech at York U. in 2003.
Freedom of speech...
Kris D.
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Did I want him in our country? No, but I understand that we are a free country and people have different views on things so I never complained.
This is just one more reason why Harper will never get a majority...
Tim from Calgary
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Robert Brown Jeddore, Nova Scotia
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However, due to the incredible stupidity of the Canadian Jewish Congress and the Harper Govenment, this guy has received more publicity and support than if he had simply given his talks and then disappeared.
peter abonyi
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If we as a society cannot bear any argument that challenges our beliefs or morals, then this experiment called democracy is over, done and finished. Our society requires the voice of dissent to work- it is how new ideas are brought forward and tested.
We have three clear choices, should we continue as a democracy; either challenge an idea on equal footing, accept it (provisionally, if need be), or ignore it and let the idiot flap his gums. If we choose to censor any idea that we find unpalatable, then what is this freedom that we are defending? I disagree with the man, but let him speak just the same.
Rob
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Roadrobber
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SVCR
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Let the British PM put up with him, not needed here!!!!
Simon
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Ally Jamie
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Joe C
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFGIbaabTU
Banning Galloway from coming to Canada has nothing to do with free speech. But Galloway's actions does not mean we have to let him in. Canada has LAWS!!! And our Laws must be respected.
I am curious why these lefties are not on the streets complaining about Hamas shooting its citizens in the kneecap and poking their eyeballs out. Guess they were elected so its OK for the Lefties and various groups.
Kimberly from River Road
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This has nothing to do with free speech.
Hope this is a lesson to our goons like the Liberals and NDP who are playing the same game.
kc in alberta
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I give money monthly to MSF (Doctors Without Borders) a group which does not ask for a politcal affiliation before dispensing needed medical aid.
According to some of you those doctors, Mr Galloway and myself may as well pack our bags and head for Gitmo before cooler heads close it down.
All for the heinous crime of caring for desperate human beings in trouble without pandering to political nonsense.
Anthony
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Vince M
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I guess free speech is only for the Left.
How's it feel Georgie Boy?!
Ryan
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Diane M.
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Ken
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Richard Feinstein
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I am going to attend his event tonight anyways and watch him via webcast in protest of the courts decision.
www.defendfreespeech.com
Jon in Burl
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Mark
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Look to NDP/Liberal bloggers to support this twit-the guy who supports Hamas and fawned over Saddam Hussein.
No thanks.
Dan from Northern Ont
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Sheesh.
Dr. James Bradford
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Canadians as a whole do not support terrorist groups such as Hamas. Some do however, which is why people like George Galloway are persona non grata in our country and let's ensure it stays that way.
MHB
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Dante
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Stumpy
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Mocha
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Edmonton Jim
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Baker, Ottawa
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If you have people showing up at your house with baseball bats, you have more wrong with your approach to debate than anyone on this site.
Keep him out of my country.
John
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Plagio
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Like the voices of Jimmy Carter, Noam Chomsky, Walt and Mearsheimer, Michael Neumann, Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe, Robert Fisk, Uri Avnery, Eric Margolis and many others, Galloway's is very unpopular with the Israel Lobby and Evangelical Christians.
Harper, clearly, does not want Galloway to speak in Canada; but he is shooting himself in the foot - banning him will cost the Conservatives dearly...Harper and his lot are an embarrassment to all Canadians!
Hey Rick in SK
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What group is Canada at war with that Galloway has given support to, and in what form has that support benefited them? Be specific. You seem to know so please enlighten us.
Terry
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TD in TO
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According to the misinterpretation of the Freedom of Speech, anyone can do what I mentioned above because they have the right to speak their mind. It's basic logic, this is not a question about freedom of speech, it is a question about a man who openly admits to supporting terrorist groups coming to warp the minds of the young and misinformed masses at these so-called peace rallies where people get together and bash soldiers and politicians and other patriotic Canadians because they do not fall in line with what they believe in.
I'm not sorry to say, but people who support terror and hatefully speak about the government and our soldiers offends me. Am I not entitled to my right to speak, or does it apply only if it is anti-governmental? Because I have been bashed for my comments before because I happen to support the government.
Aspiring Fascists take note
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And all he wants to do is talk, people.
Those who vehemently want to keep him out and silence all opposition to your right wing values, take a look at history. Bad, baaaad things have come from wishing for that...
Places where there has only been forced worship and idolatry to one absolute political ideal are terrifying and I hope you lot who are screaming to lock Galloway out never get what you're daydreaming about today.
Rick in SK
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Alberta Believer
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Mary the Aryan (correct spelling) Guard members are Canadian citizens and hence the Charter applies to them. George Galloway is NOT a Canadian and he does not have a right to our constitutional guarantees.
Its not about message its about the legality of citizenship. Free expression under section 2(b) of our Charter means that we should have to tolerate ugly messages by Canadians in Canada, but it does not mean that we need import said messages and messengers into the country.
Anne Streeter
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Mr.Galloway is a five term member of the British Parliament, he has lectured in Canada before and presently is lecturing in the United States & has addressed the U.S. Congress. Hamas is the democratically elected government in Gaza. The election was reccommended by the U.S and it's allies. As well, Jason Kenney's office was alerted to Galloway's visit by the Jewish Defence League - a terrorist organization according to the FBI and the U.S. State Department. I rest my case.
Alberta Believer
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Well "Y" lets apply this desire for free speech to the 10 provincial and 1 federal Human Rights Commissions which routinely violate free expression in Canada.
Forget abour George Galloway who isn't a citizen. In Canada you could be fined for saying or printing something that hurts someone's feelings and that someone need not prove a damn thing.
The REAL free speech debate in this country begins and ends with the Human Rights Tribunals, as these dreadfull institutions will be here long after Galloway has left this country if he's allowed in.
Phineas from the Okanagan
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Don
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Ted
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Paul
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And frankly, this guy should have been let in. By banning him entry, your just giving this nut job free publicity!
Saladin
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Bob H/Coquitlam BC
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Keith in Brampton
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The courts AREN'T overruling "elected officials"; the elected officials properly chose NOT to get involved.
This is a case of a civil servant following the regulations as he or she understands them, and the proper appeals process that follows from that.
It is only a big deal because Galloway's fans decided to use the media to hype the process for their own agenda.
I don't really think Galloway is a threat, and don't really care one way or the other if he is admitted.
But I think the media really needs to examine its own role in this; when they give such high-profile coverage about a Federal minister NOT interfering with due process, are they REALLY "reporting" the news, or serving as Galloway's PR staff?
(And before the accusations fly about my being a Tory hack, note that I tend to vote Liberal, not Reform...)
kc in alberta
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My husband served 22 years in the Canadian military defending just what you are trying to prevent - the free exchange of ideas in an open, unoppressed society.
I would love to actually talk with you or anyone who tries to intimidate me but I would not give you my home address because people like you usually show up with a baseball bat to "discuss" differences of opinion.
reidjr
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I have a real big probleam how this is being played.Some are saying it sin the charter of rights But the charter of rights does not apply in this case.Then the bigger issue is galloway him self supported the move not to allow 2 people in the uk to speak.
Pat_from_Mississauga
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kc in alberta
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It only reflects compassion for some very oppressed civilians by people who can see through the enormous political rhetoric that clouds this issue to the suffering of innocents.
I haven't heard anyone accuse him of real terrorist associations so the grounds for exclusion seem pretty feeble.
It is unfortunate if his oppinions offend some people but that shouldn't be enough to silence him in a free society.
Let the man speak...
Joel Bain
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SK Doctor
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Mark
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Galloway gives money freely to Hamas, an organization that splits its time between ruling the palestinian territories badly and murdering Israelis willy-nilly.
Galloway is also charging a speakers fee, is he not? How can we be sure galloway won't give the money he raises from speaking in Canada to Hamas, which will then use to it to kill more Israelis?
Seems like the Canadian government is preventing someone from raising funds for a terrorist organization. Why has no one brought this point up before?
JackR
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Cambob
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Much more satisfying that way.
Adam
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It would probably be best to realize this isn't a freedom issue; it's an interpretation of foreign policy (and what is or is not terrorist). Incidentally, if a country elects a terrorist government, I'm not sure we're bound to work with them. So we should be arguing over foreign policy, not free speech.
If Palestine wants Hamas as their government that's totally fine, but we have the choice not to give them aid, or not to do so. If we choose to do so, we might be funding terrorism, and there are consequences. If we don't we might be hurting people who need it, and there are consequences with that. Thus our British MP chose to provide aid, and there are consequences (ie barred entry to Canada). Those consequences are for him easier to live with than not providing aid.
For what it's worth he should probably be let in. He's probably not all that relevant, sensationalistic though his views may be.
Rick in NB
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Yesterday the majority of you were berating CTV for stepping on your rights. Now you deny mine. My fine fickle friends. This doesn't look good on you.
Rog
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We elect people to make these decisions for us.
Sam in Vancouver
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Paul in Ottawa
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R. Reynolds, Ontario
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John Rennie
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Mary in Calgary
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Jeff S.
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Don't let him in.
Bill Steedman
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Hamas is an organization of murderers who impose their will on the population with an iron fist. They are anything but democratically elected. Anyone who opposes them is lifted from their beds and summarily executed as a "collaborator".
Since when are Judges Politicians?
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O Cook
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I am in agreement with you. Too many times Canadians jump on the "Under Dog" Band wagon with their posts without doing the research or consider the history. If you need more proof just check out the other news story posts.
Freedom of Speech only gives us the right to our opinions, but... in Freedom of Speech publishers have the right to publish what they want, newspapers have the right to deny stories or ads in accordance to their agenda and the Supreme Court and the Goverment who are elected (supposedly) by the People have the right to decide what speech or literature is exceptable.
Like it not thats how it is or we all would be published authors.
Chris in Ontariariari-Oh!
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Galloway not only gave the leader of Hamas medical supplies but the keys to three new cars and $45,000 in cash,what's that all about? Hamas receives million's of dollar's each year from such free speech loving country's like Iran and Syria each year so what's this money for?
This guy is an anarchist who has shown remorse at the collapse of the Soviet Union and support for other abusive and repressive regime's like the former Iraq and Cuba. We should be ashamed for giving the likes of Galloway the soap box to stand on to spout their view's. Look the guy up on the web and you'll see the controversy that surrounds this guy and you will think twice before you think this has anything to do with free speech.
Tim
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So many people talk about their freedom of speech. What have you done to earn that freedom? Hopefully you have served you country, province or community. I gave 36 years of service to my country and my freedom of speech says I don't want this guy in my country!
Galloway is in the USA.
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Do it, Kenney.
Red X
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The IDL has an enormous amount of cash to lobby the Harper Gov't...
Galloway will speak to the audience in person OR by telecast. This whole Gov't bruha is simply providing more publicity...
Pete, Burlington
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Will
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Evan in Athabasca
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Why is it up to the courts to overrule the elected officials decisions time and time again!! The court is supposed to refer the person to the executive for analysis, for guidance, or refer the case for a policy to be created.... The courts and lawyers are getting to involved in the decision making process of this country and making bogus or imaginary laws.....
Richard L. Provencher
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MHB
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Tim from Calgary
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hindusan
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