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Critics blast Harper gov't over prison transfers
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Date: Thu. Jan. 24 2008 10:30 PM ET
The Harper government is under fire from critics who accuse it of being inept or misleading when it comes to the issue of the transfer of prisoners by Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan.
A federal court heard on Thursday that Canadian troops had halted the transfer of detainees to Afghan authorities in early November, one day after finding evidence of torture in an Afghan prison.
That came as a complete surprise to Canadians, human rights advocates, and politicians. Back in November, Maxime Bernier had said Canadian officials were concerned about a Taliban prisoner who alleged that he was tortured, but the foreign affairs minister did not mention that Canada had already halted prisoner transfers.
On Thursday, a federal official said that's because a Canadian colonel in Afghanistan made the decision and no one in the military told the government. Critics say that's hard to believe.
"I think there's been a complete lack of candour (by the Tories)," Bob Rae, the foreign affairs critic for the Liberals, told CTV Newsnet's Mike Duffy Live.
"The government knew what the decisions were on the ground. They must have been informed about them."
Critics say it's especially difficult to believe that the military would not have told the government about the change in policy because the issue of prisoner transfers was at the centre of a political firestorm at the time.
As late as the end of October, the Conservative government had questioned and even denied news reports that some prisoners captured by Canadians and turned over to the Afghans were abused. They suggested that the reports were unsubstantiated and part of Taliban propaganda.
But the opposition had hammered away at the issue in the press and in Parliament, and on Nov. 5, Bernier acknowledged that Canadians saw a Taliban prisoner with conditions that "concerned them."
On Nov. 6, the military stopped turning over prisoners to the Afghans and on November 14, Bernier admitted that torture allegations were in fact made. Critics now want to know why Bernier did not mention that prisoner transfers had by then already been halted for more than a week.
In a statement released Thursday, the Prime Minister's Office called the number of detainees and transfer of prisoners "operational matters."
"The government will not provide any comment on operational matters," said a PMO statement released Thursday.
Rae noted, however, the issue is far from an operational matter.
"The idea that you can brush this aside as some kind of an operational decision is frankly ludicrous. A decision as to what you do with prisoners is not an operational decision made on a day-to-day basis. It's a decision that's made as a matter of policy," he said.
Dawn Black, the NDP's defence critic, told Mike Duffy Live that she finds it difficult to believe that the military would not have informed the government about the change in policy.
"We live in a democracy where the government guides the policies of the Canadian Forces. It's not supposed to work the other way around," she said.
Responding to criticism by Rae and Black, Laurie Hawn, the parliamentary secretary to the defence minister, reiterated the PMO stance that the government does not "meddle, day-to-day, in the kinds of decisions (the military) is forced to make in a very tough situation, in a very tough part of the world."
When asked where detainees are being held now that Canada is no longer transferring them to the Afghans, Hawn said it was an "operational decision" of the military.
In court on Thursday, human rights groups sought a ban on transfers. But a federal lawyer argued it was a moot point because the transfers have been stopped. The government's lawyer was cut off by Federal Court Justice Anne Mactavish.
"Up until noon on Tuesday we thought there was a live controversy," she said.
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It is about time - as a grandparent I have watched our kids (who were allowed to fail although I do remember some nagging on our part) learn, I have watched our children now micro-manage their children. A big part of it is the fact that there are predators out there and an extreme reluctance on the parents part to alllow freedom that might result in the children becoming victims.
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Brent MacKinnon
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VancouverDave
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rosie
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Irving Schwartz
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I'd like to see them make one more decision: to overthrow this unaccountable, dictatorial government and establish a framework for democratic rule in Canada.
Gordon B Hamilton
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Please advise as to which government was based on 'honesty'...?
All politicians are liars, but I find that Stephen Harper's only weakness is choosing his lieutenants... He is a straight shooter when he knows all the facts....
NB
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Politicians are not in the front lines risking their lives every day; they are in their comfy Ottawa offices. So if the Military makes a decision that will save lives, leave them alone. They are 100% more qualified than inept politicians.
Andrew
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Raymond
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Harper has actually been handling this properly by keeping information outside of the hot zone to a minimum. Right or wrong, it is a war and we are involved.
Since when should the public be allowed full intrusion into military affairs, ESPECIALLY when our troops are in combat? Good grief, people.
geoffrey marsden
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Liberal intellectuals, sheltered as they are by years spent in the secure fantasy land of academia, saw fit to buy votes with tax dollars rather than adequately fund the military. They are in no position now to criticize a government whose military no longer has the resources to handle these prisoners thanks to decades of their short sighted policies.
Des Emery
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It is also reasonable to assume, given the PM's propensity for keeping secrets even from the rest of his caucus and from Parliament, that this particular event back in November was truly unknown to the government sources of public information. Only Harper, and probably Bernier, should be held responsible for this fiasco.
And Kevin should know that judges do not make law but are invaluable in their role of interpreting the values the politicians themselves impose by law upon the people, whether knowingly or not.
Roger T
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Before our Gov't preach or wants to lead and tell the world that we are role models our country should really clean up it's act before we lose face. After all, monkey see monkey do!
TD
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Ian
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Andrew
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Ben
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Of course, everybody else sees this as just more proof that Harper's government is one based in dishonesty.
kevin
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Jason
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Scott
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John from BC
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John T
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Kudos to them for choosing the latter. Once again they have demonstrated how worthy they are of our highest respect and admiration.
The actions, policies and sneering denials of Harper's minority government have been a disservice to Canadians and a failure to demonstrate any form of leadership. Shame on them!
Steve
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