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The alleged missile is seen in this image provided to CTV.ca by Darlene Stewart. The alleged missile is seen in this image provided to CTV.ca by Darlene Stewart. Darlene Stewart of Harbour Mille, N.L., was outside snapping photos of a sunset, when she saw a long, thin glimmering object in the sky that appeared as if it came out of water.

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The alleged missile is seen in this image provided to CTV.ca by Darlene Stewart. The alleged missile is seen in this image provided to CTV.ca by Darlene Stewart. Darlene Stewart of Harbour Mille, N.L., was outside snapping photos of a sunset, when she saw a long, thin glimmering object in the sky that appeared as if it came out of water.

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Date: Fri. Jan. 29 2010 4:33 PM ET

Aerospace specialists are split on whether objects spotted in the sky over Newfoundland this week were dangerous missiles, or simply model rockets.

Two Harbour Mille, Newfoundland neighbours took photos of three large, silver, bullet-shaped objects at dusk on Monday night. The women insist the objects were missiles.

The Canadian government said there were no military training sessions scheduled for that day, and speculation hit a fever pitch after France announced it successfully launched a missile on Wednesday, two days after the women took the photos.

Dr. David Greatrix, a professor of Aerospace Engineering at Ryerson University in Toronto said he is 90 per cent certain the objects in the photographs are military rockets.

“This is not an amateur rocket. This is more likely a military missile,” said Greatrix, who specializes in rocket propulsion.

“If it was an amateur rocket launched from a boat as a joke, it’s possible, but the trajectory of that angle, you’d see it more vertical,” he said. The women described the objects as travelling diagonally upwards.

There was no official military activity in Newfoundland around the time the objects were seen, but Greatrix says all signs suggest the objects were part of a military training exercise -- whether planned or otherwise.

He said the plume of smoke leads him to believe the object is moving towards a training target, but noted: “There is a very small chance that it was an inadvertent launch."

Greatrix said the objects are not likely long-range ballistic missiles, but rather “surface-to-air” missiles, which are smaller and are launched by a ship to protect against incoming missiles.

“The fact that it’s off of Newfoundland, it’s hard to believe it would be a ballistic missile.”

Greatrix said testing a surface-to-air missile would not cause damage because crews on the ground would detonate it before it could hit land.

Travelling too slow to be a ballistic missile

But Dr. Billy Allan, a former experimental flight test engineer with the Department of National Defence, says the objects appear to be travelling at less than the speed of sound.

That rules out the French ballistic M51 missile that travels 13,000 kilometres per hour, said Allan, who is now a professor at Royal Military College in Kingston, Ont.

“There’s nothing that travels that fast that you can sit there and take pictures of it,” he said.

He also said the objects are unlikely to be surface-to-air weapons because the plume of smoke would be longer.

Allan said it is unlikely that tests would be done close to towns or villages, and said anyone launching test aircraft must apply to Transport Canada for permission.

“Official (tests) which aren’t cheap, are done in official ranges, because they need to know how it performs,” he said.

“There’s no credible agency in Canada or the allies that would be testing anything off the coast of Newfoundland.”

Allan said he can’t be sure of the size of the objects from the photos, but said they could be sophisticated model rockets.

“They make pretty big models,” he said, explaining that his students launched rockets last year.

“It is quite an impressive display,” he said, describing the smoke and fire their metre-long rockets emitted.

Jeremy Laliberte, Assistant Professor of Aerospace Engineering at Carleton University in Ottawa says the size of objects over the ocean could be misinterpreted from a distance.

He said model rocket motors can often explode like fireworks and shoot fire like the objects in the photos did.

He said launches usually end after only a few seconds, but if something goes wrong, they can remain suspended in air for up to 15 minutes.

“My first thought was some sort of hobbyist with a home built thing gone awry, and they may not want to admit it,” he said.

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Mark Brine
said

Or Al Qaeda?? It should be worrying to our inept government but missiles can't vote so Harper likely doesn't care much.


Doug ## BC
said

Well,so far we know it's an object,we know it's flying,and so far it remains unidentified.At the very least,we have labeled it correctly. I guess if you're PM Harper,you would suspect that those Tamils actually got their hands on some of the heat seeking missliles they were convicted of buying in the USA. If you're Jack Layton,you probably think the USA is now attacking Canada to capture the sevret of our health care system. And if you are Mr.Ignatieff,this will likely be seen either as proof that the Conservatives are trying to take over the world,or that the Liberals missed some equipment when they attempted to castrate our own miltary. Oh how I love a mystery.Well,not the mystery, so much as the conspiracies that inevitably follow the story.Absolutely though,this must be PM Harpers fault.It must be.I'll just have to check back later to see what the Harper Haters present as their idea of "proof".


mike
said

Why am I not suprised that Harpers' experts claim it was nothing, they have lied so many times, what is one more, they are of the opinion we can fool all the people all the time


Larry
said

Wow, it makes me feel really safe. Noone knows, the Government has their heads stuck up someplace, and it's just a joke. Maybe the politicians should keep parliament closed for good since they don't know what is going on anyway.


jeffw
said

And I thought the idea of it being a model rocket was being ridiculed by everyone (including and especially the Liberal MP) just yesterday? Boy I hope it turns out this way. Can't wait for the fireworks!


So Cold Out
said

If it were a model rocket, who would shot one off in NFLD in January. It is -20 around there; why would anyone want to stand around outside shooting off three rockets? Especially if they are shooting it off of a boat in the middle of the freezing Altantic Ocean.


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