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Reports of wind farm health problems growing

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CTV News: Avis Favaro on sickening turbines
Some say what's good for the planet, isn't always good for the people on it. A growing number of people living close to wind farms say the giant machines are making them sick.
CTV Toronto: Monica Matys on what kinds of health problems residents are reporting
A new survey claims people living within three kilometres of wind turbines are experiencing health problems. Monica Matys has more.

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Date: Wed. Apr. 22 2009 9:57 PM ET

More people are coming forward saying they're experiencing sleep problems, headaches, and heart palpitations caused by living near windmills.

Ontario physician Dr. Robert McMurtry told a news conference in Toronto Wednesday that while wind energy may offer a cleaner, more efficient way to generate electricity, those who live near the giant turbines are suffering through serious health problems.

McMurtry, a retired orthopedic surgeon who used to be an assistant deputy minister of the Population and Public Health Branch of Health Canada, decided to look into the health effects of windmills with the help of Carmen Krogh, a retired Alberta pharmacist.

Krogh and a group of volunteers distributed questionnaires in areas near wind farms, asking residents to describe whether they have experienced any effects from the turbines.

Of 76 people who responded to their informal survey, 53 reported at least one health complaint. They complained of:

  • headaches
  • heart palpitations
  • hearing problems
  • stress, anxiety and depression

He reports that one resident had to be admitted to hospital with an acute hypertensive episode. Another experienced atrial fibrillation (abnormal heart rhythm).

"There is no question that they are genuinely suffering, and more people are at risk if the rules are not changes substantially," McMurtry told the committee.

Krogh's survey revealed that most of those who complained of health problems lived within a kilometre of a wind farm, while those further away were less likely to experience health problems.

The turbines don't appear to affect everyone equally and it is not clear what causes the health problems in some people. Some suspect that the constant, low frequency noise and vibration from the rotating blades may be what cause the problems.

But research into the problem is lacking. That's why McMurtry is calling on governments to conduct a lot more studies into the turbines' effects on the health of nearby residents.

"There is no epidemiological study that has been conducted that establishes either the safety or harmfulness of industrial wind turbines. In short, there is an absence of evidence," McMurtry told an Ontario government committee Wednesday.

The committee is debating The Green Energy and Green Economy Act, 2009, a bill that would enact standards for renewable energy projects, such as standardized setback requirements for wind farms.

McMurtry told the committee that until there are rigorous epidemiological studies of the health effects of wind turbines, Ontario should not go ahead with any further construction of wind turbines.

Wind power advocates contend that studies have been conducted in North America and other parts of the world and they show that residents who live near wind farms have few complaints about them.

Sean Whittaker, vice president of the Canadian Wind Energy Association, said these studies "have really come to the same conclusion and that is there is no evidence that wind turbines have an impact on human health."

Whittaker told CTV News that research he has reviewed shows that the percentage of people who approve of wind power increases the closer you get to a wind farm.

Barbara Ashbee is not one of those people.

Ashbee lives in the shadow of 11 of the 45 giant wind turbines at the Melanchthon wind farm near Shelburne, Ont., about 100 kilometres northwest of Toronto. At first, she liked the idea of living near a green-energy facility.

"I thought it was a great idea for the environment," she told CTV News.

But the day the turbines started running, she and her husband, Denis Lormand, stopped sleeping.

"They are so loud we didn't get any sleep. You can hear them in the bedroom. There is also a hum and vibration that permeates the house," she says

All that deprivation started to lead to cognitive abilities, she contends.

"My memory now is horrible," she says. "It's terrible to go night after night without sleep. We go to bed 7 p.m. because we don't know what the night will bring."

Her husband also suffers from tinnitus, which causes a constant whining sound in his ears.

With more construction at the Melanchthon wind power centre expected to bring the number of turbines at the facility to 133, the couple says they would love to sell their house but can't.

"Between the noise and the vibration, we couldn't put a For Sale sign here. There's no way," says Ashbee.

Ashbee says she has no problem with the concept of wind farms, but she says they simply shouldn't be built near residences.

"I thought they were wonderful, but they're not. There are big problems and they have to get sorted out," she says.

With a report by CTV medical specialist Avis Favaro and producer Elizabeth St. Philip

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Mark
said

What a surprise-government rushes into spending our tax money on an unproven, "popular", fighting "Global warming" scheme with no thought to actual research.

How....Dalton McGuinty and David Miller-esque.

'nuff said.


Concerned in Rural Ontario
said

The REAL study needs to be performed - anyone who actually read or listened to the story would realize it cannot be expected to offer definitive answers or meet statistical rigors. But if people in areas close to industrial wind turbines in various locations worldwide are experiencing the same symptoms, let's find out why before we put them everywhere. The 'STUDIES' Mr. Whittaker refers to are a joke - hand-selected references from CANWEA (wind energy lobbyist) - no one has done a proper epidemiological study to prove or disprove health effects. Remember thalidomide, cigarettes, asbestos????


mark
said

The wind lobby has become unnecessarily blind and undemocratic in it's approach to siting.

Too bad. It's unfortunate that misinformed environmental leaders have bought into this end justifies the means approach.

Many of us hoped renewable power would empower people and give meaning and force back to our democratic environmental processes. Unfortunately, the wind lobby seems to have adopted the build it at all costs approach of other dominant energy players like nuclear and oil.

Hopefully - the public will discern between the lobby and the public interest advocates before all the environmental laws are rolled back and citizens have no power to influence or protect their communities from energy interests - renewable, nuclear, fossil and hydroelectric.

mark



Kay, ON
said

I actually believe such complaints from people that live close to wind farms. I still do believe in building windfarms. But I think there's a lack of proper regulations for the location of wind farms.

I think a 5km clear distance from the closest house would solve the problem. In the meantime, those people that are badly affected by the already built windfarms must be compensated by the government(Prov/Fed).


MineItNow
said

We seem to agree that this study lacks scientific credibility - nothing new there. We may also agree that there are no studies on the effects of new large wind turbines on human health. Maybe we can agree that better placement might be the answer. Could we also agree that we should build thousands and thousands more? They use tonnes and tonnes of metal and petroleum byproducts which is great for my pocket book.


Owen
said

I can't believe how so many people can believe anything bad about the petroleum sources of energy or nuclear, but anything that might question the premise the complete saftey from any form of energy production which is politically correct and so called, " environmentally friendly ", is just fine and could not possibly cause any physical or emotional issues for people or animals. I think, to much David Suzuki or the hot air machine, Al Gore, might be helping people formulate opinions or beliefs. Have people never heard of the problems people have who live near power lines, the very same symtoms luminaries, as these people are experiencing near those damnable and ugly looking windmills, plus others, such as cows in pasture fields giving birth to soon, or the cow becoming sick. Do you tree huggers know of the magnetic energy fields which surrounds energy producting products, such as windmills, and energy transmitting lines.


Flo
said

I have to wonder if these symptoms would have been experienced due to previous, underlying health issues, whether diagnosed, or not yet diagnosed.


Barpl-P
said

Wow!!I'm really surprised by the comments. The majority seem to think this is hogwash. Why?? Because it is green technology. It can't be bad?! If this was a hydrocarbon/petroleum type device causing these symptoms rest assured all comments would be slamming the petroleum industry.
Posters are failing to mention the physical effects such as vibration and wind noise. No way you can discount that now.....


Mark
said

I have a headache and no wind farm around. So what do I blame it on ?


Pip
said

Yet another publication of a "study" with no method to it. What happened to the control group?

It is time that news organizations actually checked the facts before publishing something as amateurish as this piece. Please, do not insult the Canadian public with such drivel. Redo the entire study - with a control - so that a statistical comparison can be made to validate the results. Without the control, it is simply advertising or propaganda.


brian from lethbridge AB
said

Thats funny....

I've worked in the oil industry for 10 years and thats almost exactly the same list of complaints I've heard from several residents around the facilities I work at.

In every one of the complaints I've worked to deal with there was ALWAYS an underlying motivation. usually quality of life, (too noisy/wreaking my view) or more ususally money.

I understand people should be compensated for inconvienience but they sure they loose credibiltiy when I see them driving a new pickup the week after they got their check

Always theres a history of medical issues to justify the complaint. But Always there's an underlying motivation ususlly not medical or health.


Keith Fisher
said

I agree with the doubts of the previous readers. I work in the field of clinical research and the findings of a 76 person study do not result in a reliable scientific conclusion. Furthermore, this retired doctor is a product of Health Canada which is, and always has been, up to its armpits in bureaucratic lackeys who are well-known for making mountains out of mole hills.


fez
said

The survey is flawed but the fact you're living near wind turbines can't make life that comfortable. The low frequency humming for instance on a regular basis can't be much fun. My suggestion would be to locate wind turbines as far as possible from residential zones even rural ones i.e. have the turbines located at least 1 km away from any populated area.

Alternatively start R&D into making the turbines quieter..


Dan the MAN!
said

This is not good!
Lets open a nuclear facility instead of these wind farms and bury the crap from it for thousands of years to come.

Another solution, hand out free Tylenol and ear plugs!


Bob from Ottawa
said

My neighbours and I suffer from similar complaints. I was just treated for heart palpitations. But wait, where are the windmills?

That is the most ridiculous piece of pop-science journalism I have seen in a while.

Sorry CTV, but please do some real investigation first before you get everybody excited.


Gini
said

What a bunch of wimps some Canadians have become! Suck it up, people.....if it's not windmills causing your "health problems", it'll be something else. Maybe if you lived in some war-torn country, I'd feel sorry for you.


Ron in the West
said

Hey Jason-TO, I agree with everything you say except the last sentence. Whack-nuts like this never vote conservative. Sometimes Liberal but most often NDP. Sorry...just facts.


MRC in Ontario
said

Low frequency noises & vibrations making people sick? That's a no-brainer. It's common knowledge that very low sound/vibration frequencies emitted from audio systems can make many people sick (depends on your physiology, of course; it must be a resonance phenomenon matter). Either way, at face value, all these continual similar concerns about wind farms must certainly be true.


Nancy: Toronto SkyScrapers kill more birds
said

The number one bird killer next to Toronto Sky Scrapers is the dreaded wind mill.
The Liberal fantasy of employing Canada was insulting to our intelligence.
Protect the birds and protest windmills.


Chasmo
said

Here are a few statistics on windfarms:

-In the United States, turbines kill 70,000 birds per year, compared to 80,000 killed by aircraft
-57 million killed by cars
-97.5 million killed by collisions with plate glass
-hundreds of millions killed by cats.
-An article in Nature stated that each wind turbine kills an average of 4.27 birds per year.



Andrew
said

The solution seems obvious to me. We have established fossil fuels are bad, nuclear energy brings Chernobyl to mind, and now some would have us believe that wind energy is bad. Looks like we're just going to have to let go of our electric lights, and even the computers we read these stories on. By returning to the dark ages we can eliminate these problems with the sources of our energy!


Same symptoms but where's my windmill?
said

I don't own a car, so I spend a lot of time outside waiting for busses. I can be standing there, not a car in sight, yet I can still hear the background hum from all the cars in the area. When you are standing outside and become aware of it, it's really surprising to realize how inured we have become to the noise of the car culture. I'm sure when Mr. Ford's contraption first trundled down main street that everyone hated how noisy it was, and many suffered sleep disturbances, etc. But the fact is that noise pollution is rampant and people just get used to it. I am resigned to the fact that if I want to sleep with a window open I have to wear earplugs. These country folk will have to get used to "city" noise too. It's the price we all pay for our energy-intensive lifestyle.


Zamboniguy
said

I think the radiation spraying into my face at this very moment from the laptop that I am typing this on is more of a cancer/heart/liver/kidney risk than a windmill spinning a kilometre away would be. That's all I can add now, I've got to get the kettle before the steam creates mold in my kitchen causing me to have to sell my house and move to a kettle-free one.

Oh the humanity!


karol
said

It is well established in science that infrasounds (sounds below 40Hz in frequency) are very harmful to people and animals as they do influence body functions as heart beat etc.





Mike in Ontario
said

I've lived beside a major highway for 20 years and live with constant transport and traffic noise 24 hours a day up to 80 decibels. I sleep like a baby at night. People can and do get used to living with noise. Stop standing in the way of real environmental progress.


Vince M
said

Why would you all be so blind to the side effects? Nothing is for free. Reliable research in Alberta (google "Wind farms sucking life from bats") indicates bats are being destroyed in large numbers by wind farms. Bats eat pests. Pests eat crops. Now we need to add more pesticide to do the work bats aren't.

Carcass counts at the base of windmills indicate windfarms in Canada kill 200,000 birds a year (google it). Makes the Oilsands 500 tailing pond ducks look like a minor incident.


give me a break Natty
said

Less than 100 people can hardly be considered a "Study", and "Age" is crucial to most complaints mentioned.
With what I've seen and heard to date, the crux is Something New must be contested.
So, Prescribe a 2 Kilometer skirt around Wind Farms,DOCTOR. Duh!

Who Paid for this "Study" anyway??


helgi Saskatchewan
said

Having been born in Holland and lived most of my fomative years beside a windmill,I have not yet had any medical problems so far from living right next door to one and I'm now 70 years old. So go figure me thinks it is a case of sombody wanting to make some money out of this, or someone does not like clean energy in their backyard. Maybe they like the more dangerous reactors or coal that way we all be sure that someday everyone will be sick.


M Anderson
said

These same symptoms from people living too close to turbines are cropping up all over the world. There are doctors trying to get answers in the UK, US, New Zealand, Japan and Australia. Just because you have never heard of it, don't dismiss these people. Why can't a proper health study be done? Why can't these things be sited farther from family homes?


Ron in the West
said

More bad science. As if the global warming scare tactics are not bad enough. It is scientists with a cause and researchers in general who give me a headache. But, in any event, let's blow up the economy of the entire planet to solve these issues because someone's "study" says they are fact. Just hope scientists, enviro-freakos, and animal rightsies are right on top of the explosion first. Claptrap!!!


Garry in NS
said

This study is pure bovine scatology! Let's just build a bunch of nuclear power plants and be done with it.


dm
said

Why can't it be true that never ending noise causes health problems? It seems to me that this is a similar premise to the whales that suffer and die because of sonar. It should have been studied more in-depth before being constructed near peoples' homes.


fireflicker
said

I can't believe the amount of completely close-minded ignorant people who have posted on this article. How do YOU know these enormous wind turbines don't cause health related problems?? Are you all experts or doctors in the field?

Be ashamed of yourselves people; not just for your disagreement but for your junvenile comments.

Maybe these turbines cause problems for some people....until further studies are done I'm not ready to dismiss it like a joke. Grow up!!!


Ronald in Toronto
said

Perhaps then, bigger blades and slower revolutions? Worked for the Dutch.


Doug BC
said

This study is far to small to be considered the end all study.BUT,by the same taken it should not be dismissed outright.I think there is good reason to proceed with caution.It would be folley to go ahead great guns,only to find these issues are real and serious AFTER we have invested billions of dollars.BEFORE we get really deep into this is the right time to get all the facts and a majority of people accepting those are being realistic.There have been to many instances of taxpayer dollars wasted by getting really gung-ho about things we know to little about.
There are quite a few dedicated environmentalists who have doubts about wind turbines.Let's just make sure we get this right BEFORE most of the money goes out the door.If it is going to have problems,it's best we find out as soon as possible so we can look for other solutions.Wasting money here would limit our ability to fund other options.


New World
said

I get Migraines once a month. About half the people I know, including myself who get depressed/anxiety attacks maybe 4 times a year that can last 1 week to 4 weeks in duration. My wife has heart palpitations. My mother has hearing problems, and so do many elderly, my hearing may be slightly damaged due to loud music when I was young… with so many variables how can you really make this connection? I agree with studying it… but get all the facts first before releasing it to the public. (But I guess the dear Dr. needs to have some sort of public outcry to get his funding to do this research).

I'm not diminishing the problems these people are having, but I do see a lack of a responsible study. When you go looking for a something you will find it even if it doesn't exist, sort of like seeing a human face on Mars, the moon is made out of cheese or space visitors carved on ancient monuments (or numerous other myths).

Also it has been noted that people in Southern Alberta notice an increase in Migraines when the chinook winds blow, has this been taken into account?




Ben, Edmonton
said

You know who is to blame? The OIL SANDS, that's who!


Passing Wind
said

I love all the desperate greenies whining on here saying the study is wrong when they would be the first ones to jump on a survey saying pesticides are awful or something like that. Great to see yet another moronic manouver from the "Green" crowd better put that one next to the ethanol fuel which has caused a massive increase in world food prices. Get back to your heavily polluting jet vacations to third world countries, your SUV's and telling everyone else how they should run their lives hypocrites


farmer fred
said

Peter Legend

Your ignorance betrays you. Only those living on the actual land where a turbine is located get any kind of reimbursement. You live a bit away, and tough luck.

All energy comes at a cost. Where I live there are hundreds of turbines going up. When they first arrived I was excited to see them. Now having lived with them for a few years I have begun to realize they are not all they are cracked up to be. Yet the Ontario government, where this story is focused will not allow environmental or health examinations to be a consideration in their siting. They have even gone to the extent of over-riding local municipalities attempts to place them in places less upsetting or damaging to the local community.

Wind power is big money, backed by big industry. It is not the green future many of us hoped for.


Ridiculous
said

People should stop complaining about everything. This study is crap; my stats prof would just laugh at it.


john the turbine
said

I can't believe what I have read here. People that live next to these things complaining of all kinds of things and all the rest that don't live near them saying there isn't a problem.

Honestly people....wake up. The turbines obviously cause a problem, lets listen to what the people that are affected say about them. If you are so unaffected by these monsters then buy their homes and shut up.


Lets Get on With it,
said

So lets get this straight. The Dutch have been using this technology for years. Almost all thier farms are fully run on wind. I think this study is very very flawed and would be curious to know who paid for it to be completed.

I am think Canada as big as it is with as much wind as any place is 20 years or more behind the world in using this for our energy needs.


Leave me alone
said

Doesn't surprise me a bit. I trust the people who say they have headaches over the the green pushers any day. Recently there have been complaints about those new light bulbs also. Maybe on earth day we should break all those "new" bulbs and see what the mercury destroys. Better yet, just bury them in the garden of your local green member.


Steve the Pundit
said

You can darn well bet that, if the "green lobby" could find any connection, however tenuous, to health problems related to traditional coal or nuclear power, the hue and cry to shut down these "merchants of death" would be deafening. Oh wait, they're already doing it!

Here's the difference: our current methods of power generation represent sunk investment costs with no means to feasibly replace the power they generate if they're taken off-line. Further, coal and nuclear plants, generally, are not located directly in someone's backyard, as these wind farms often are.

There's already strong evidence that the frequency coming off of high tension lines causes health problems; not a big stretch to implicate humming wind turbines.

Until there's a genuine understanding of what the potential long-term health effects are, there should be a moratorium on these wind farms, especially in close proximity to residential and inhabited areas. Unless future governments want to accept the burden of lawsuits generated from health concerns caused by wind farms...


BC Pensioner
said

Sleep problems living near Windmills, gee maybe nobody gets any sleep in Holland, and not for hundreds of years.

What a load of 'Crock'.

I don't know why I keep reading this stuff. Then I look at the calendar to see if it's April 1st.


Mark from Thunder Bay
said

I'd be more afraid of living by a coal production plant, or a nuclear reactor than a wind turbine farm....The health hazards at the other two far outweigh the risks from a wind turbine. I agree that some people may be irritated by them, so just don't build them as close to people's homes. That's all.


Open your minds but remain questioning
said

Our society is so 'over' studied that people no longer recognize their own close mindedness. Do many of these studies have flaws? Absolutely. Does this mean they are wrong? Not necessarily. On the flip side just because a study states there is a conclusion doesn't mean its fact. Skeptism is good and necessary when examining research but not if it results in immediately ignoring a contrary or questionable view point. Our world needs a little less close mindedness and we could make great strides forward.


Granola
said

This is so ridiculous, I can't find any other words for this article. We have a windmill in our acreage since 2 years and I don't have any problems. But what give me headaches, stress, anxiety and depression or heart palpitations is all the people that write about windmill without knowing what they are talking about.. So ridiculous!!!!


Nick
said

Wind turbines are a new technology. We should expect bugs with new technology. So we learn from our mistakes, fix them and move on. What disturbs me is the comments posted by other readers. Just becasue a technology is "green" doesn't mean it's flawless. Health concerns should NEVER just be waved off. There seems to be a perception that "green" means infallible, which simply isn't true. The green in the title simply means no atmospheric emmissions, not no side effect.


Marty in Ottawa
said

I live near a highway and the cars going by give me palpitations. I also lived near an airport which gave me headaches. I also lived near a school where kids gave me hallucinations.

Solar panels give me nausea.

People make me sick.

The world is nuts.




explain please
said

How can a wind turbine cause all these problems.


dust-in-the-wind
said

Gee, I live within 10 km of a wind turbine. Where do I sign up for the class action suit?

Come on folks, Canada is a really really big country. If you can't find a place to build these things and keep them away from populated areas, you must not been outside of down town TO.

As for the "study" that Dr. McMurtry did, I am glad he was only a foot doctor and not something important like a heart or brain surgeon. 76 people interviewed with no control group etc. what kind of a scientific study is that? Instead of getting a pharmacist (and I don't see the link here, only really funny punch lines), he should have worked with a statistician, or actuary, or high school math teacher or someone that knows about numbers and how to collect and interpret them responsibly.

I'm not saying that there can't be negative effects from turbines, but pleeease show me some legitimate data. If there is a problem, find somewheres else in our 9,900,000 square km country to putting where they won't negatively impact the living population (I hear Ottawa meets the criteria).


wind farms are not part of the solution
said

These complaints need to be taken seriously. More work should done collecting data to ensure the health and safety of humans. People lived on the farms before the wind farms came into focus.

In addition to human health issues is the decimation of migatory birds. Wind farms are keeping these deadly stats closely guarded.

We want to keep as much of nature, as natural as possible. Why would we want to build wind farms on pristine skylines? These are the most ugly looking additions to a landscape one can imagine.

The costs of producing power from wind farms are not competitive with hydro, coal, nuclear ...... why do we persist?

The EU countries do not have the abundant fossil fuels that other countries have. The EU countries import 40% of their oil and natural gas from Russia. There is a huge political game being played out in the EU and Russia. We, in North America do not need to be a part of it.

Lets find ways for cheap energy sources.

BAHHHH to Wind farms. Save the birds and human health.


Larry the science guy
said

technology from mortal human flesh and blood bodies is bad. The wind mills are dangerous. They create frequency noise, disturbing vibration waves, and they change the air, and the oxygen level, the evil rotating blades makes the air unstable. Wind turbines kills birds, and bats, both by the rotating blades touche the bats, and also by the huge evil blades changing the oxygen level in the air. Birds, and bats can not breathe good when flying near those bad wind blades. The solution to the energy problem is to have less flesh, and blood humans on the earth. Humans are a problem to the earth.


fuelly
said

save wind burn coal


Alex (Toronto)
said

Sounds like an epidemic of nimbyism.


ron
said

i,ve had visitors from holland in my bed and breakfast they say the biggest problem over there is that theres so many it blocks the view from their houses


SK Prairie Boy
said

I'm experiencing sleep problems, headaches, and heart palpitations by living too near my species...


Les in BC
said

When an open survey or complaint line is opened, you will get every whiner within 500 miles calling in.

People can live beside waterfalls, rapids, highways, large volume traffic streets and even rock crushers and they soon become used to the sounds and it does not effect them.

I think they are reporting the whiners without looking into the average issues that affect a cross population of people compared to these people who have reported all these health symptoms.


BMac
said

Albertaboy said:
"If wind farms are truly causing harm to people that is nearly as bad as problems to the environment caused by the petroleum industry."

Yeah Albertaboy! Let's just build new coal plants! Why not meet our energy requirements by burning endangered species?! It's 'basically' the same as wind power, right?

*Rolls eyes*


DC in AB
said

Give me a break. This is an "informal" survey, conducted with out utilizing scientific method for the purpose of making a storey. 99% of statisticians are liars, the other 1% don't know what they're doing. I can write a study that says anything I want. The key is to prove this, which this study hasn't.


Rick in NB
said

So what most of you are saying is. I don't mind a wind farm next to my home. Good, when your property value tanks it should be no problem to you.
Remember thalimide was the best thing a pregnant woman could take for her nerves in the 1950s.


Tono
said

I knew it! I KNEW it!!

I've never liked those windmills. I've always thought that they were visually pollutive, and that they take up too much space.



JP
said

Chronic sleeplessness due to noise is AWFUL! It has a very serious detrimental effect on ones health.
A buzzing noise all day and night would drive me insane (I've dealt with that before with a neon sign outside my window...god awful)
This really sucks for people living close enough to the wind turbines.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

JUNKY SCIENCE


- headaches

- heart palpitations

- hearing problems

- stress, anxiety and depression

________________


Big deal. This happens to me every time Michael Ignatieff speaks (lectures) publicly.


When I change the news channel, I feel better instantly.


----------------


Seriously, put this "report" back in the oven and serve it up after it's cooked. The results strike me as psychosomatic gobbledygook.

I want Dalton McGuinty to live in a field of windmills for at least 5 years...and then we'll run some tests.


MAL
said

How many health concerns do the good folks on Queen Street East [Toronto] get when the wind blows off the lake and the plants from Commissioners spew onto them?

This article needs to be filed under 'grow up'. Obviously living under a mega fan will be troublesome, they should be placed in areas with sound buffers etc. until technology catches up to safety.

I live 250 yards from the DVP and the sound buffers are great, emergency vehicles and trucks using engines as breaks not withstanding. lol


Researcher for Unbiased Truth
said

This study is full of holes. I do unbiased research for a living and the symptoms they questioned on are typical everyday symptoms of people's everyday lives. They need to conduct this study further to make if valid. Where are the numbers comparing people NOT living near windfarms. I wonder what percentage of them have headaches and heart palpitations, my guess is very close to these numbers. Poorly conducted study that should not have been published without more information. This is just mis-informing the public. Are the oil giants behind this story?


Neil A.
said

I am speaking to one of my friends that has 3 wind turbines 300 meters from his house on his property and says that these people are crazy! He sleeps like a baby.


LS Brew
said

Total load of BS. But happy to see misinformation directed at the "green side" of the equation for a change.


Brain (pinky's twin)
said

Maybe it's the wind and not the wind turbines?


Michael Schwartz
said

I guess we also ban ceiling fans? This is a joke of a study...I say stop reporting such nonsense because 1-5 people pee their pants when they read this.


a study is just a study
said

The next thing they will say is windfarms cause cancer. Then someone will come along and say windfarms reduce cholesterol.. etc.




Windy EarAcres
said

Wind farms are a great idea that was not thought through properly. They can't be near homes like they tried to propose in Prince Edward County. That would be a disaster. I'm surprised to hear that people 1km away are having problems. I guess we should all go see one on a windy day. It would probably open our eyes a bit.


tommyflash
said

Who do you think this one is funded by?


Mike
said

How do they even know all these symptoms are caused by windmills? I live nowhere near wind mills, I got lots of headaches. Whom do I blame? Looks like another lawsuit is coming.


Sean H in Ottawa
said

This is probably the same group that said that living near power lines caused health issues. Studies proved inconclusive.


A more accurate informal survey would have been to ask for health problems spanning the last 5 years and see how many of the people surveyed have the same symptoms over the same time periods. There should be no mention of the turbines in the survey. People will lie if they think that it might get rid of the ugly turbine they've been grumbling about at the townhall meetings.


Tinnitus? I guess that's possible... but they usually do noise assessments. If not, get them to measure the decibel level. There are clear rules about how loud things can be. These things are far from silent but it's a whooshing sound. I've heard them. I found the sound to be easily ignored.

As for not being able to sell. I don't believe that at all. There are plenty of people that would probably pay a premium to live there if you could ensure them that your house actually makes use of the energy generated by the turbines.


kjo
said

Let's see, a survey sent to people living near the turbines asking them if they have any symptoms or illnesses? Talk about putting a suggestion into someone's mind. Hey, ask met the same question and I will you a host of illnesses. I can only assume that the government will be compensating me. Whoever decided to do the survey this way should give their head a shake.


Windy Man
said

I wonder if the number of health problems in the vicinity of a wind farm matches the average population in the same age group, same gender and same ethnic background.

It's all about the statistical significance. I'm sure we can find the same health problems around public parks, cities, and around Loch Ness...


Joe in Huron County
said

Peter Legend
Most people do not choose to live by these turbines, the farmers are the ones who own the land and the companies who finance the turbines decide where to put them. Most of these problems are from people who have had turbines installed close to their homes. I have worked beside turbines for the day and the constant noise drove me crazy (this was on a calm day) imagine hearing this day in and night.
Only those who own the land get any payback from a turbine so no they don't get a discount.


Jason
said

I have always been skeptical of studies. Who funded this one the oil industry??


Jason-TO
said

It wouldn't be related to the fact that some of these people protested the windmill and now have a self fulfilling illness. I'd like to see the demographics of those questioned. I have a sneaky feeling they are all over 55, rich, and suffer from extreme nimbyism. They also probably vote conservative.


jimmy-vic
said

I'd expect anything generating power (power lines, transformers, etc.) would cause these symptoms just like any petroleum based products cause cancer. Another meaningless "sky-is-falling" news article timed perfectly for Earth day.


John F
said

This is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read. Some people have nothing else to do. What's the alternative? more coal fired plants...Give me a break.


Skeptical in Edmonton
said

Interesting study, but like others who have commented, my first impression was that a lot of these health issues are present in the population at large anyway, and cannot necessarily be ruled as the cause of one environmental factor. Besides, the increased number of people living with cancer in Alberta that live near oil facilities has never been truly studied...but anyone who lives in a town such as Lloydminster or Cold Lake will tell you that it seems like ever second person on their block has had/has cancer. I think thats much worse than the health problems these people are attributing to windmills which are benefiting SO many others! Perhaps its just time to move....


Richard in Ontario
said

Just a minute. Didn't our Premier McGuinty, just say that wind farms are going in whereever the government decides, in spite of the NIMBY protesters saying they might cause, or have caused health problems. Maybe we can get him to ban windmills, to protect our children, the same as he did with pesticides.

tmc2318
said

I'm sure compensation must be in order......give me a break


Ted
said

What was the exact wording of the questions on this "informal" survey?

I question the mention of unnamed "research" and "studies" used on both sides of this argument.

If there is evidence, then publish the URL so we can all read it and judge for ourselves.

How about offering some interested members of the public a sleep over in the affected area?


Sylvain Ottawa
said

"Of 76 people who responded to their informal survey, 53 reported at least one health complaint."

This story and the "report" is so misleading. I suffer from tinnitus, headaches and a heart arrhythmia. I live nowhere near wind farms, power lines or nuclear waste. So what am I to make of this.


I would contend that if you sent the same survey to 100 random people you could come up with similar results.


You can make a survey say just about anything you want. Some aspect of psychology is at work here. Make a big deal about the wind farm then give your sample source a series of questions.


If wind farms were as bad as this story contends the Dutch would be a very miserable population given the thousands of windmills that dot that country.


Peter Legend
said

Ok, so wind farms or breathing difficulties with conventional fossil fuel usage. I personally would never live near a wind farm and I would say the same for nuclear power plants or coal burning plants. Imagine if people lived near nuclear power plants and we heard their complaints. Wind farms are a minor inconvenience for those living around them, furthermore im sure that those living near them get a discount because they are also getting their power from the wind farms. I think people just need to relax and weigh the trade offs of one technology vs. the other.

Life does go on after all



Jonzo
said

I doubt certain aspects of this study and the methodology. To make this study sound, they should have surveyed people not living near wind turbines. A lot of those health complaints are common in areas without wind turbines. In addition, people living in the areas nearby may think that these problems are caused by the wind turbines when there could by many other numerous causes.


Rick
said

What are the odds that any group that large would have the same symptoms no matter where they live. I think the power of suggestion may be partly responsible.

AlbertaBoy
said

If wind farms are truly causing harm to people that is nearly as bad as problems to the environment caused by the petroleum industry. All measures possible should be taken to reduce any damage to anything. After all we have hundreds of thousands of square kilometers in the arctic that have no one around for miles. There is also lots of wind in that flat cold land. If we are still causing harm and the producers refuse to do anything they are just as bad as the problem they try to fix.


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