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It's being described as the most dangerous flu virus in the world and the U.S. government is worried about it getting into the wrong hands. Dr. Neil Rau, an Infectious disease expert appears on Canada AM, Thursday, Dec. 22, 2011. This undated handout photo provided by the Wyoming Game and Fish Department shows two juvenile black-footed ferrets periscoping from a white-tailed prairie dog burrow in Shirley Basin, Wyoming. (AP Photo/Wyoming Game and Fish Department, LuRay Parker) It's being described as the most dangerous flu virus in the world and the U.S. government is worried about it getting into the wrong hands.

Journals asked to censor controversial bird flu studies

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It's being described as the most dangerous flu virus in the world and the U.S. government is worried about it getting into the wrong hands. Dr. Neil Rau, an Infectious disease expert appears on Canada AM, Thursday, Dec. 22, 2011. This undated handout photo provided by the Wyoming Game and Fish Department shows two juvenile black-footed ferrets periscoping from a white-tailed prairie dog burrow in Shirley Basin, Wyoming. (AP Photo/Wyoming Game and Fish Department, LuRay Parker) It's being described as the most dangerous flu virus in the world and the U.S. government is worried about it getting into the wrong hands.

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There is no requirement for these scientists to create this deadly virus. Fact is - nothing is ever 100ò0secure. Terrorists could make an attack on any of this biolabs with minimal effort and release the virus. Deadly accidents have occurred within biolabs and will happen again. Question is whether the deadly pathogen gets out too.Just plain stupid...

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Journals asked to censor controversial bird flu studies

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Journals asked to censor controversial bird flu studies

Date: Thu. Dec. 22 2011 5:39 PM ET

The U.S. government is asking scientific journals not to publish the details of studies done on the bird flu virus because of fears the information could be used by bioterrorists.

Both a Dutch and an American research team have managed to figure out ways to mutate the avian flu virus so that it can become highly transmissible among humans.

The engineered viruses have not been released;  they remain locked away in high-security labs. But the researchers wanted to deliberately create a deadly superbug to better understand what changes in the virus would need to happen in nature for it to become dangerous among humans.

The researchers would like to publish what they discovered and have submitted their work to the journals Science and Nature.

The U.S. government, though, wants the journals to publish only brief reports of the work. They're worried that nefarious teams might want to borrow the ideas to create deadly viruses of their own for bioterrorism.

The U.S. National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity has asked the journals to publish scaled down versions of the studies. But both journals say that smacks of censorship. They point out that there are researchers in the medical community with a legitimate need to see the full work.

"It is essential for public health that the full details of any scientific analysis of flu viruses be available to researchers," Dr. Philip Campbell, editor in chief of Nature, said in a statement.

The request from the U.S. government to publish redacted versions of the research is only that: a request. The government does not have the power to block the publications.

But the journals said in separate statements this week they are working with the biosecurity advisory board to come up with a compromise. One idea would be for the journals to limit what they reveal, and then have the U.S. government create a system in which those parties who need to see the full details of the research could be granted access to the material.

"We are discussing with interested parties how, within the scenario recommended by NSABB, appropriate access to the scientific methods and data could be enabled," said Campbell.

But Dr. Bruce Alberts, editor in chief of Science, said the negotiations have already dragged on for a long time and a plan for granting full access has yet to be devised.

"Our response will be heavily dependent upon the further steps taken by the U.S. government to set forth a written, transparent plan to ensure that any information that is omitted from the publication will be provided to all those responsible scientists who request it, as part of their legitimate efforts to improve public health and safety," he said in his statement.

The bird flu virus is considered dangerous becuase it has such a high death rate in humans. Of the 600 people who have to date been infected with the H5N1 virus, 60 per cent have died.

But while humans can catch the virus from birds, H5N1 currently does not transmit easily from person-to-person.

Dr. Fouchier's team, as well as a team led by Yoshihiro Kawaoka, a University of Wisconsin-Madison, have found that it would take only five mutations to the virus form that is currently circulating around the world to turn it into an easily transmissible form.

The team conducted their research on ferrets, whose respiratory systems are similar to humans and who are considered the best predictor of how flu viruses might behave in humans.

The team introduced five mutations into the virus and found it then could easily bind to the ferrets' nasal and tracheal cells. All of the mutations have been found in H5N1 viruses in the wild; they just haven't all come together at once yet – and may never do so.

But as part of their experiment, the researchers tested how transmissible their new engineered virus would be by inoculating a ferret with it. After it got sick, they exposed a second ferret to infectious material from the first one. They then repeated this a few more times, essentially forcing the virus to adapt.

After 10 virus generations, the virus "learned" how to became airborne and infect healthy ferrets who were simply housed next to a sick one.

Fouchier says their research means that it's indeed possible that the H5N1 virus could change into a virus that can spread among humans "more easily than previously thought," he said in a statement earlier this month.

Infectious diseases expert Dr. Neil Rau points out that because the research was conducted on ferrets, it's not even clear that the virus can transmit easily among humans.

"There's no proof that it's transmissible between person to person," he told CTV's Canada AM Thursday.

Rau doesn't believe it's likely that just anyone could take the clues given in this research and then begin creating a superbug bioweapon.

"You need a Level 4 lab with personal protective equipment before you even handle it. So no amateur is going to do this. You're going to need a concerted group of evil people working as a team to play around with this virus," Rau says.

Even if that could happen, transporting and disseminating it wouldn't be easy either without killing all those involved.

For those reasons and more, Rau believes the move to suppress this research is an overreaction.

"I think we've already sacrificed a lot of civil liberties and freedoms in this war on terror and I think this is another freedom on the altar of sacrifice with them saying suppress this information in return for preventing what is really a low risk," he said.

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CalgarySandy
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Interesting. Does the US think that they can keep science quiet in a world with the Internet? Where does it get off thinking it has the right to suppress the findings of science? I am really sick of the US acting like it is the only country of value and that it owns all thought internationally. Next thing you know they will arrest their scientists for finding things that the Right does not like. Look how they reacted to teaching Evolution in schools.


Margaret Benedict
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More arrogance from the US. Do they honestly believe they are the only ones who have discovered this or are working on it? I agree with not publishing all the details but to ban it completely is just, as stated in opening sentence, arrogant.


hey what ever happend to smallpox?
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I didn't realize these terrorists had a genetics laboratory hidden away in a cave somewhere. This seems a bit more sophisticated than thier usual car bombs and IEDs. I'm personally more worried about bird flu just by itself than it being used by terrorists, but then agian I'm not american


mike
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like nuclear knowledge, this should only be available to certain people, who go through pre-screens. All it takes is the release, and we are all gone....


Will
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KD, you are out to lunch and if you really were what you claim to be you wouldn't be spouting such drivel. As a specialist in bio-defence, I am well aware that the reputable and responsible researchers support keeping such minor restrictions on publication in place. Save the conspiracy theories for the tin-foil hat crowd.


Robinca
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While I don't like the suppression of Knowledge and the steady progress that we are making toward Dumbocracy (the rule by keeping the populace too ignorant to resist the State) I have too agree that this information does need to be kept classified. This is no different than keeping critical pieces of information about how to make neutron beam weapons or chemical warefare agents out of the open literature. Genocidal weapons are a constant threat to all of us. If the ecofascists or the UN had access to this virus they might use it to end the global warming problem --- at its source.


jay
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There is no requirement for these scientists to create this deadly virus. Fact is - nothing is ever 100% secure. Terrorists could make an attack on any of this biolabs with minimal effort and release the virus. Deadly accidents have occurred within biolabs and will happen again. Question is whether the deadly pathogen gets out too.Just plain stupid...


Keep shovelling the bird sh*t
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Can anybody tell me the last time a "terrorist" used bioweapon on civilian populations in Canada? Yeah. That's what I thought. More fear and propaganda. (Don't care about the USA as they are rancid, sinking ship, just don't want them taking us with them).


vnm
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"The engineered viruses have not been released."Good to hear. However knowledge is the most virulent strain of all, and already the dissemination has begun, with the biggest step already accomplished, everyone now knows it can be done without too much difficulty.


KD in AB
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As a viral researcher and a current medical student the comments on this board depress me. Some of you jump to the most wild of conclusions based on conspiracy and mistrust. These experiments are not evil, unnecessary, or dangerous. They serve a very important purpose; they tell us how an existent virus can mutate into a deadly human pathogen and one potential (short) sequence of steps that it could do it. This information is required by influenza researchers and public health officials all over the world to help monitor and prevent a very dangerous outbreak from occurring. They are doing this research to protect all of you who do nothing but throw roadblocks in their way. The US is handling this in a completely ignorant way as already pointed out in the article. They are putting you in danger and that is what you should be outraged at, not the research itself.


Will
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the conspiracy nuts are at it again. This isn't a free speech issue, you fools. It doesn't take high priced scientists to re-create something once someone else has done it first, especially when the details are published. Nobody is saying the researchers cannot report on their work, they are being asked to not publish critical details that would allow a technician to recreate what they did.


david
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Mad scientists seem unable to refrain from developing or dabbeling into horrific experiments,,HI is the recent example. Governments should move to ban this type of crap experiments. Dont give me the "sensorship" crap either. They have no right to do this because in time they will let it free into the atmosphere. They cant even empty the garbage without spilling it.


Joseph
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What good would it do anyone if they released the details of the study? Does the casual reader really need to know the process of virus manipulation in human strains or weaponized bird flu? I have a feeling the media (popular or scientific) shouldn't even have to be asked not to release this.


Tim
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You're right, Jackie. We all have the right to know how to create deadly viruses. They're as bad as Hitler now; how dare they deny me the right to that information!


todd
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A big impact on the entire world? USA is now a secret scientific dictatorship?Some of you need to cut down on the caffeine and meds, or go write a conspriacy theory and make a buck on your hyperhysteria.


Jackie Barrett
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Since USA is now telling science related magazine publishers what to write and quashing freedom of speech in the process, this country is now headed into a possible Fascist Dictatorship.Fascism is just as worse as Communism, perhaps even more worse.


Rachael
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I'll take Dr Neil Rau's "word's of wisdom" on the bird flu situation, as the most logical one; a man who always seems to keep things in perspective when it comes to the spread of and threat of infectious diseases. He's a man who never blows the situation out of proportion in regards to the seriousness of an outbreak.


mikel
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They make a good point. Suicide bombers are too stupid to do this but countries like Iran and North Korea would do it in a second......


nash
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Only stupid people will believe that people might use the information on bio terrorism,,, probably the real reason is that there will be a big impact in the entire world, it could impact the economy if the people will know the truth,,, maybe one of the ingredients to make the virus mutate to another more dangerous virus is very common to all people in daily lives. US is just being so scared to face the impact, they rather see people dies for lack of information.


island girl
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With all the ACTUAL diseases currently killing people that need scientists attention, I can't approve of purposely tweaking one to study it 'just in case' it mutates and gets more powerful. Turn your attention to the here and now of conditions and diseases that are taking our loved ones please.


mary
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Security via obscurity. That is the exact reason why the world today is full of software viruses. So much so that the only way to keep your PC truly "secure" is to disconnect it from the www....Ask Schneier if you don't believe me.The global OSs are so secure that nobody other than the wise men who owns the code know how it all really works. That is why they have to release security patches on a monthly basis to stop the viruses taking over the world.The only trouble with H5N1 is that it is DNA, not bits and bytes... Also you cannot patch the human DNA on a monthly basis to resist the weaponised H5N1 once it gets into the wild.IT's time to built that bunker in the back yard with full NBC survival capabilities.I would also start collecting books and built a library if I were you...soon, it will be the only relics left of a once beautiful human civilisation so full of promise before madness took hold...


KS in SK
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The good news is that bird flu will kill the terrorists just as well...


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