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Starting Sept. 1, 2011, fried foods will be off the menu of Ontario school cafeteria. (file) Ben Kramer, Diversity's executive chef and student Kari Broadfoot appear on Canada AM, Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011. Ben Kramer, Diversity's executive chef and student Kari Broadfoot appear on Canada AM, Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011.

Winnipeg school caterer says healthy food sells

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The executive chef if Diversity Food Services with the University of Winnipeg, Ben Kramer, and student Kari Broadfoot say there is a variety of food offered that tastes great.

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Starting Sept. 1, 2011, fried foods will be off the menu of Ontario school cafeteria. (file) Ben Kramer, Diversity's executive chef and student Kari Broadfoot appear on Canada AM, Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011. Ben Kramer, Diversity's executive chef and student Kari Broadfoot appear on Canada AM, Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011.

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Starting Sept. 1, 2011, fried foods will be off the menu of Ontario school cafeteria. (file)

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Date: Thu. Sep. 15 2011 8:42 AM ET

With Ontario schools mandating that only healthy food be served at school cafeterias, some food providers are saying it's going to be so hard to make a profit selling fresh food, they're closing up shop.

But it's a different story at the University of Winnipeg.

The school switched to a food provider two years ago that's been serving up fresh, healthy and often organic and ethically traded food. Whenever possible, they use locally sourced foods and organic ingredients. And they've found that what's great for the waistline is also great for their bottom line.

Diversity Food Services now runs the food service outlets at the university. They say that switching over their cafeterias' fare to a menu of nutritious, fairly priced and ethnically diverse food has been quite profitable.

Student enrolment at the university was up about 3.6 per cent last year, but food sales are up 30 per cent, says Ben Kramer, Diversity's executive chef.

That's a far cry from what some caterers at Ontario schools have reported. Some says revenues at their cafeterias are down 30 per cent since the province implemented the School Food and Beverage Policy. That policy calls for 80 per cent of a school's menu to include foods that are high in nutrients and low in fat, sugar and sodium.

One of the caterers servicing school cafeterias at schools in Renfrew County outside Ottawa decided to pull out even before the policy kicked in, saying they would have had to eliminate 80 per cent of their menu items. They also didn't want to compete with the nearby fast food outlets, where they presumed students would flock instead.

But that's not been the experience at the University of Winnipeg. Students there have been staying on campus and buying up the new fresher fare offered by Diversity, Kramer says.

While preparing fresh food is more challenging that serving frozen food that's thrown into a deep-fryer, Kramer says it's completely doable.

"Fresh food, yeah, it's more perishable and more delicate, but it's no different from restaurants. Restaurants serve fresh food all the time and they're profitable," Kramer told CTV's Canada AM Thursday from Winnipeg.

Kramer says his company tries to offer a diverse menu that will appeal to all tastes and ethnicities.

"We have a breakfast wrap that's quite popular, our ‘Huevos Wrap,' which is made with organic beans, free-range eggs, homemade salsa and some local cheese," he describes.

One of the restaurants on campus is called Malecon, which is Spanish for ‘street food,' and it serves made-on-the-spot tacos, small pizzas and sandwiches. There's also a small café called ‘Bodhi,' which is Java for enlightenment where a local roaster sells fair trade organic coffee, quick bagels, sandwiches and homemade baked goods.

Kari Broadfoot, a fourth-year student says she and her friends love the salad bars, as well as the noodle bowls, where users can choose exactly which vegetables, proteins and sauces go into a steaming bowl of Asian noodles.

"The noodle bowl section is a great way to select what food you want in your noodle bowl. You have a complete range of what you can add to it. Everyone loves that," she says.

The food services were changed at the behest of university president and vice-chancellor Lloyd Axworthy, who was discouraged when he came to the school and saw how poorly the school was fairing in magazine ratings because of its food.

They dumped their caterer and created Diversity Food Services, with the help of the University of Winnipeg's Community Renewal Corporation and a non-profit agency that helps fledgling new businesses.

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Hungry
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Why aren't the parents making a lunch for their kids? These caterers need to take a course in sales! Nothing sells by itself, you have to sell it. They are the epitomy of laziness. Work for your dollar!! Maybe like the horse whip we don't need caterers in the schools.


Brad
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Let's put it in perspective. The article is talking about university kids NOT kids from the lower grades. The younger kids don't want the healthy stuff more often than not. Let's compare apples to apples not apples to oranges. I was a caterer in a high school and they like junk food. Some of the kids will eat healthy but the vast majority want junk!!!!! I think forcing the caterers to provide this option is unfair and will force some to stop providing to schools.


Anne
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your comparing apples and oranges, universities can have whatever the students are willing to pay for, High schools, have a very limited price point. High School kids cannot pay 10or 15dollars for lunch a day, if the price is not low they will walk to a plaza and get the food they can afford. Why don't they just try educating children on what is good for them instead of trying to dicatate what they can eat, that is a parents job.


Charlie @ Saskatoon
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Oh brother, this article is comparing apples to oranges. A university compared to elementary schools - the mindset of the food client is likely to be different! Plus, I am sure that the U of W has a few more older adults (employees) compared to the school.Food services should not be a part of the provincial education system. It needs to be the family that is responsible for providing the food.


Original Canadien
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"healthy" foods are not necessarily healthier. it is the wuantity that you eat that make the biggest difference. You should also vary what you eat. A single slice of pizza with the right ingredients on it can be 10 times helthier than eating a salad. Why? because of the ingredients. you can put all four food groupd into a single piece of food. Unless you hold off on the dressing, the salad will actually have more "bad" ingredients. As well, retailers and restaurants charge more for "helthy" foods so I'll buy the lower priced item.Having sais all of that, the government has no right to dictate what we feed our kids or ourselves regardless of our size. BUTT OUT!


Larry
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Folks, this is not rocket science! It's possible to provide kids the "junk" food they want and make it healthy and tasty at the same time. It's possible to make burgers, chili and other foods with less than 350 calories. Fries can be made without deep frying in oil! Pototo chips with no trans fat and less salt are also available. These are the foods teens want, so let's make healthy and tasty versions available to them. When you give them what they want, they stop going to Mikey D's!For those kids who brown bag their lunch, mom and dad should be overseeing what goes into the bag.


50 years old Kid
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The problem in these cases is that there is always a friend of some of insiders who is selected for the business and all other competitors’ applications go to the garbage. I'm sure there will be other smaller catering companies who are willing to do business with the school board and respecting their requests. Competitive market rules will solve this problem and consumers (kids) will benefit from this competition.


MAE in Ontario
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Does it really matter what any one here thinks or what your opinion is. The school boards will make the rules for what they think are in the best interests of the kids. The kids with all that disposible money will eat where ever they want and if the caterers will do what they do for a profit. If they think the schools won't provide that then they will earn their money else where. Where are the parents in this equation. Most high school kids have jobs and if they want to eat elsewhere they will;. If they were really serious they would start with grade school kids. OH ya grade schools don't have cafeterias


Mark
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You cannot compare a University student body of educated adults to a high-school student body of well, let's just leave that one for now! The older and more educated people get the better choices they make, usually.


Syl
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What I don't understand is how these kids can afford (or their parents afford to let them) buy lunch every day. They should be bringing lunches from home, either packed by their mother or themselves. As a retired senior, I can not afford to spend $4 to $5 on one meal every day. That has to do me for at least the whole day - breakfast, lunch and dinner. Even when I was working I 'brown bagged' it.


Mona Craig
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What is more important, the health of the children or making a profit?Mona


Dianne
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I don't know why some people think its impossible to make tasty food that teens will be attracted to. My teens love the nutritious foods I have always made. The problem is not the schools or public eateries, its what is being served at home that is the problem. If home cooked meals that were nutritious were cooked more often and therefore routine and not special or unusual, kids, teens, and the public in general would not make such a big deal about healthy foods. Everyone has gotten far too focused on premade foods to accomadate their busy lifestyle, and that is forming life long problems for those individuals. Eating healthy is easy, economical, tasty, and accomadates a healthy long life. Change whats cooking at home and no one will notice the "healthy choices" being served in the cafeteria at school.


jc
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I am confused as to why this is such an issue. Most teens that I know bring lunch to school and might each cafeteria food 1 day per week. I must be one of the lucky ones because my son eats a very healthy breakfast and dinner so the 1-2 days per week he might eat some fast food is not a huge deal. I guess it becomes a big deal if you don't feed your children properly in the first place.


RK
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I could never afford to eat on campus at University, or high school. It was brown bag for me. This would have been a non-issue in my life.


Let them go hungry
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Serve healthy food and only healthy food. If the kids don't like it, they don't have to eat it. When they're hungry enough, they'll come around. I doubt that healthy food doesn't reap a profit, but suspect that it may perhaps not reap the greedy profits the food services would like to make when comparing it to what they rake in selling crap.


KDH
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There where fast food choices at this school before Ben came around. There are also fast food choices in walking distance to the school. One of them was a McDonald's that closed. The reason the Ontario program isn't working is two fold. One the company providing the food needs to try different things until they get a menu that works. The other part is the responsibility of parents to teach their kids about good food and get them to try different things. Also to whoever stated that they ate burgers and fries and got out of school ok, have you walked through a school lately? Every year there are more and more obese kids, things are not the same as when I was a kid. I didn't have video games, the internet and 100 channels on my TV. I had my imagination, my friends and the great outdoors and was far more active then kids these days. I also had home cooked meals everyday, eating out was a rare thing for us. Today, home cooked meals for a lot of families are rare and even then it's not scratch cooked, it.s partially prepared and convenient but no better then eating fast food. Ben's food is fantastic and I applaud his efforts and success, I also know that he worked very hard at a menu that worked and sold well. I also applaud the U of W for making a bold decision to eliminate fast food on their campus.


Sharon
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Cost has a lot to do with what a kid is going to choose. He can walk into McDonalds and buy a salad for $6.99 plus tax or choose a calorie, salt and fat-laden meal, including half a litre of sugar water pop for 4 bucks. Sorry, most kids will choose their wallets.


Calgary Mom
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Sorry Windex, but you are completely out to lunch! My 4 year old knows the difference between healthy food and junk foods and when presented with a choice between McDonalds or Subway he always chooses Subway. We need to start giving younger people the opportunity to choose healthier foods. Will some of them still choose to go to the McDonalds across the street? Absolutely! However, some students will stay at school and eat what is offered at the cafeteria. Change takes time, after a few years kids will become used to the new menu items and eventually they won't be able to remember a time when fast food was served up in schools. The hope is that we will start to see a reversal in obiesity statistics and raise a generation of fit, healthy children who are ready to take the reins from their fat, sick parents.


Ryan
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Windex: I'm a student at the University of Winnipeg. We have a Subway, McDonalds, shopping mall food court, pita shop, a burger joint, and multiple pizza places all within 5 minutes walking. Every day when I walk into the caf to find a seat I'm unable to and the restaurants inside the university are PACKED! This food is delicious and affordable. We also have a high school in our university and they seem to love it too!


Robert B
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If you're just going to sit on your backside all day I guess a salad will sustain you, try doing some real work with that salad and soon you'll be sitting on you skinny backside due to lack of energy!!


Patricia Gougeon
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I agree with Windex! University and High school students cannot be compared. I belive they should offer healthy choices, but in the end, it is up to the parents to teach their kids good eating habits. Next thing you know, they will be banning McDonalds within a 5K radius of schools-


Adam - Brampton
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A low fat pizza that tastes great has the cheese made with skim milk, veggies, pizza sauce and some bits of feta cheese give it the tangy zing. I think it's too much Nanny State for me. Up to the age of 19 your body can handle anything ! I ate fries and burgers in the cafe and survivied. As you get into your late 20's or so you get boried of the fast food and discover other foods. You can't force good health choices. And eating lots of soy is bad for your immune system.


D.K. Lindsay
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It is very difficult to compare a large University campus with little or no access to fast food restaurants to a high school in a downtown area surrounded by these places.Ther is a large difference between a sixteen year old and a 24 year old's thinking process and level of maturity.Can healthy food be supplied in a Ontario high school sure it can. Can the students afford it ?? Also the overall impact on a student who will eat at fast food restaurants or eat foods that go from the freezer to the oven for convenience sake for the other two meals and snacks such as pizza pockets and sit in front of the tv or computer all day with little or no exercise is extremely limited.


Nic
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Not having the chips, pop, french fries and burgers available will "force" the students to go for the healthier foods that are available. It works in our house. We used to buy chips and pop, and those were the first things that were eaten. Nowadays, after I put a ban on having any junk food in the house, the kids will come home and put a salad together, or go for the pre-cut veggie platter. Yes, they have dip with it but I make sure the dips are low in sodium and fat.


Mike vdB - Chatham, ON
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Any business that cannot adapt will tend to fail and be forgotten. Caterers that lack good management skills and forward thinking business practices are no different.


Windex
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You can not compare University students to high school students..They are more mature and understand that healthy eating is best...And where is the University located - is it directly across the street from a McDonald's as it is at this high school. Though I may not have done the same - I can see where the Arnprior caterers were coming from. Again comparing more mature university students to high school students is ridiculous.


Gundula Baehre
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If healthy food choices are promoted and explained, but more importantly, if healthy food is prepared in a tasty and visually pleasing manner, many high school students (and elementary students as well ) would likely go for it big time. I bet that the Ontario caterers who are complaining simply tried to sell the students over-cooked and tasteless tofu and vegetables and the like, that they were probably simply too LAZY AND NONCHALANT about the whole thing (with no research, no cooking standards, no fresh produce etc. etc.).And while students are not likely to buy or eat tasteless, badly spiced, overcooked crap masquerading as healthy food (would you??), they would more than probably be interested in buying, tasting and eating healthy food choices that are fresh, tasty and visually pleasing.


Ian in Oshawa
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When have kids ever prefered healthy to good taste? Put a nice chef salad next to a plate of nachos and see which one they go for first. I mean, we should be worried about making them eat healthy, but unless their choking back 2 hot dogs a day then settle down. I mean if you're that worried what they're having for lunch, balance it out with a healthier dinner why not? You're not going to make them want to eat healthy by forcing it on them. However, you are helping the local economy and food joints, so there's a plus right there.


Jazz
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If the Catering companies won't provide what the customer wants, let them go under. It just shows me that it is run by a very poor team in management/ownership.


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