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One of the largest studies ever conducted on multiple sclerosis is casting doubt on the effectiveness on the controversial and popular liberation treatment. Researchers behind the study say MS is triggered by changes in the immune system, not blocked blood vessels.

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Date: Thu. Aug. 11 2011 6:45 PM ET

Scientists have discovered 29 new genetic variations linked to multiple sclerosis, with many involving genes relevant to the immune system – a finding that they say bolsters the theory that MS is a primarily an autoimmune disease.

The new study, published Wednesday in the journal Nature, is the largest-ever study on the genetics of multiple sclerosis. More than 250 scientists collaborated on the work, and close to 10,000 MS patients were involved.

Many of the gene variations the team discovered are involved in the development of the immune system's T-cells, which are the immune cells that protect against infections. When T-cells become "confused," they trigger autoimmune diseases that mistake healthy body tissues as foreign and attack them.

The study authors say the findings reaffirm the long-held assertion that MS is primarily an autoimmune disorder and that changes in the immune system set off the disease.

"Our research settles a longstanding debate on what happens first in the complex sequence of events that leads to disability in multiple sclerosis," Dr. Alastair Compston, a University of Cambridge neurology professor who was one of the leaders of the study, said in a statement.

"It is now clear that multiple sclerosis is primarily an immunological disease. This has important implications for future treatment strategies."

The findings also cast doubt on the recent theory proposed by Italian vascular surgeon Dr. Paolo Zamboni that MS is related to blocked neck veins.

For this new study, researchers in Britain, Canada and a dozen other countries performed genome-wide scans on the DNA of 9,772 people with MS. They looked for genetic anomalies that didn't appear in the DNA of 17,376 healthy people without MS.

They discovered the MS patients had 29 genetic variations that other patients didn't have. They also confirmed 23 other genetic variations that had already been associated with MS. As well, the team identified five more associations that might be significant and that require further study.

One third of the genes identified have previously been implicated in playing a role in other autoimmune diseases such as Crohn's Disease and Type 1 diabetes, indicating that the same processes occur in more than one type of autoimmune disease.

The findings cast doubt on the theory put forward by Dr. Zamboni. He suggests that blocked neck and chest veins stop blood from draining properly from the brain -- a condition he calls CCSVI -- which leads the blood to deposit iron in the brain. It's the iron deposits that lead to the brain changes that mark MS, he contends.

To treat this, he proposes a vascular procedure to open blocked and twisted neck veins. Hundreds of Canadian patients have flown to overseas clinics for the so-called "libertion treatment," spending upwards of $20,000 or more.

They've returned with various results. Some have reported the procedure helped relieve their fatigue; others said it allowed them to walk again, while still others say it offered no relief at all.

At least two patients have died after having the procedure, though it's unclear what role it played in the deaths.

Zamboni has conducted studies that suggest that the majority of MS patients have CCSVI while few healthy patients so. But further studies have been unable to replicate his findings.

One study published this week in the Archives of Neurology found no significant difference in venous abnormalities between MS patients and healthy controls. But CCSVI proponents argue the studies were performed improperly.

The vein theory has not been embraced by many neurologists who specialize in MS. Many contend that patients have a genetic predisposition for MS and that one or more environmental factors trigger the condition.

Multiple sclerosis is marked by damage to nerve fibres in the brain and spinal cord and their protective insulation, called the myelin sheath. When the myelin is destroyed, it causes patients to struggle with everyday activities such as walking, feeling, thinking and controlling the bowel and bladder.

Even among those who believe MS is an autoimmune disease, it's been unclear what sparks the immune changes. Previous research has suggested a vitamin D deficiency might be the trigger. Populations in northern hemispheres have higher rates of MS than populations with more year-round sunlight.

In this latest genetics study, researchers did identify two genetic variations that are involved in the metabolism of vitamin D.

The MS Society of Canada said it welcomed the new study, as well as all new studies looking at the relationship between MS and CCSVI.

"Because MS is a complex disease, studying it from multiple pathways may lead to more management choices in the future," a society spokesperson said in an email to The Canadian Press.

"We await the results from our own funded studies on CCSVI and MS. We honour and respect the decisions Canadians living with MS make for the benefit of their own health. We acknowledge people with MS who experienced benefits from CCSVI-related procedures."

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Fluffy bunbun
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@lorimayb Medicine involves the calculation of risk vs benefit. Surgical procedures always carry some risk; if there is no benefit (or little benefit) it should not be done. Good science takes time; let them do their work.


jimper
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I hqave m.s. for more than 20 plus years i have been thinking of the liberation treatment my sister had it done no improvemrnt there she passed away recently liberation did not do a thing my brother had m.s. as well and passed away m.s. problems a couple months beforew my sister also my aunt died from m.s years ago as i searched for a help with my symtoms liberation stuff has long way to go with research be patient people lieration treatment thanks but no thanks research more please


Roselyn Bower
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I don't care what they say. I have seen the CCSVI treatment help relieve symptoms in my mother. Her balance has improved drastically and is still better than before she had the treatment. While CCSVI may not be a cure for MS it does help some people and to not allow a simple procedure in Canada is a CRIME.


Old Ted
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One thing in favour of the vein theory is the fact that operations, on the whole have had pretty good success. It' might not be the whole cure but there is definitely something to be said for the procedure.


lorimayb
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Probiotics, Neurologists have always told people with MS that their immune systems are "overactive"--in fact they are often given steroids such as prednisone to completely shut down the immune system.


robin hood
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So in a word these patients are predisposed! Heres a thought “patient” implies your ok to wait—“thanks for being patient” OR “thank you for your patience’s” how about we do a name change and see IF this will have an effect on wait times—can’t hurt. What will we call ourselves instead—any body? When we see the results we can work on name changes in other areas--just putting my idea out there.


Probiotics
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I know nothing of MS. So my question is, given that it is believed to have a connection to the autoimmune system, would large dosages of Probiotics make a difference? They are believed to bolster the immune system.


lorimayb
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zora, Maybe you should learn a little more about the human body and how it works before you start spouting your theories. Iron deposits in the brain have nothing to do with nutritional iron deficiency.I understand your mistrust due to your ignorance of the issue but are you so uncaring that you must insist people with MS deserve to suffer when there could be a chance that their symptoms might be alleviated by a safe, simple venous angioplasty procedure?Placebo effect or not, I'm happy to have some symptoms relieved! There were no other options available for me.

zora
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Julia wrote:
"This would explain how many people in one family can come down with MS. I always suspected it had a strong genetic component."

You cannot conclude that b/c family usually share the same environment at the very least for some time.

Apart from this, in respect to Zamboni's 'liberation treatment' and 'iron' deposits in brain ... : it is widely accepted that women much more frequently suffers from MS than man; yet at the same time it is women who more frequently suffers from iron deficiency. I know that this is a bit far fetched .. the truth is that I've never came to trust in anything Zamboni or his supporters stated. I trust there are many more very sound arguments against Zamboni's 'liberation treatment'. BTW we all heard about placebo effect.



Lorin
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Maybe soon we will be able to have our children’s genes tested to see if they could develop vein abnormalities in the future which could lead to causing CCSVI and invoking MS and other autoimmune disorders.


lorimayb
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I don't care what causes MS--if somebody has poor blood flow because of occluded veins, it should be fixed! Nobody knows for sure if the symptoms experienced by people with MS are definitely caused by the scars on their brain (the definition of MS). If a vascular procedure can alleviate some symptoms and provide a better quality of life, why are so many uncaring people against it?


Clivey
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Here we go again! Another attempt to manipulate the media into getting people to believe one sided stories. Jeez! It scares me that our media presentations are becoming so Americanized. Lets get it right..we're Canadians and aren't so gullible. I'm getting the treatment next month and nothing is going to stop me. I've seen enough evidence to convince me. It's my money, I will do whatever I want with it. Lets face it, its no good to me when I'm dead (probably from MS)


Zora
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This seems to be a blow to CBC staff - they did not publish this news yet. Yet they were too quick to publicize Zamboni's study. I considered the CBC's (and some other media) reporting on Zamboni' 'finding' to be misinformation plus fraudulent reporting that resulted in many people sick with MS paying big chunk of money to questionable medical practitioners abroad and in Canada too.
This new genetic link seems to be far more resonable though it is long way from identifying the cause and finding the cure.

Those money wasted on Zamboni's 'finding' would be much better spent on genuine research that would lead to find the real cause of MS. (Allegedly it is still unknown whether only myelin is destroyed in MS or also oligodendrocytes, for example. And many more fundamental issues with MS are still big unknown, so why waste money on some Zamboni's type of fraudsters?)


Terry Fries
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These comments to this story, show once again that no matter what the science, people believe in things because they WANT to. Because there is a big conspiracy theory that science wants to keep people sick, they will continue to believe in unproven gimmicks, such as the neck vein theory, simply because it offers hope and quick cure. The truth is harsh people, but ignoring the facts can be much more dangerous...


craig janiszewski
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You have to wonder what cut the media recieves for the dismination of false information,
This proves nothing, Those who have had 87% blockages in their necks opened need no approval by the medical elites / drug companies.


Keetcha
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These types of articles are attention grabbers intended to support big business and corporate supremacy which is what this mainstream "news" does regularly. Genetic variations linked is meaningless at this point. Variations of guess what, the very complex immune system that is impacted by any number of varying complex factors. Relevant to the immune system, is completely non specific, and they still don't really know. What do they know about the immune system regarding the catch all "immune disorders"? Not much except how to suppress it. What is MS? They cannot definitively answer that either and until they can, they should go back to their labs and keep their noses out of my health care. Venous flow is critical to health and without it the human body including the brain, fails to get the correct supply of oxygen and mineral deposits are not moved out of the brain structures and create breaches in the blood brain barrier. This can trigger the immune system that causes a whole host of dangerous calamity to the body. Why is my venous health relegated to the dustbin? Ask those who have been making a wonderful living off pwMS for generations. No one said CCSVI treatment is a cure but it does drastically relieve symptoms for 1/3 of those who receive it. Placebo effect lasts only 3 months not over a year like it has for many and it cannot be attributed to paralysis being resolved, that is ridiculous. This argument has worn out it's believability as so have most of the "experts arguments" regarding this issue.


G. Helm
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It seems that several apologists are doing some backpedaling these days, claiming something to the effect that "nobody ever said that blocked veins cause MS, or that liberation therapy is a cure". In fact, Dr. Zamboni has claimed exactly this on numerous occasions. Any internet search on "zamboni ms cure" will bring up the articles.


jay
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I was diagnosed with MS 12/2005. I couldn't walk or feel anything below my waist. I have no insurance, so no expensive MS drugs for me. I found a doctor that was willing to treat the pain/discomfort with painkillers and muscle relaxers. With the pain under control, I was able to begin walking, slowly, but mobile. The more I was able to walk, the better I got. I started taking high potency liquid vitamins and that started me getting even better. I can walk normally, lost the fatigue, and I can remain active. I will get weak on my right side and begin to limp, but, only when my body heats up too much.
After cooling down, I'm fine again.
I tried stopping the vitamins and after a week or two, I would get asymptomatic. Restart the vitamins and back to a close to normal MS free life.
I swear by my protocols, I created protocols that work for me, very well!!!
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cannabiscures
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Cannabis has helped MS patients cope with this monstrous disease. I work in a pharmacy and deal with these patients on a daily basis. It's a shame the government has such a lock on the cannabis (herb)plant. It is wonderful medicine, excellent food source and all around life giving PLANT.

Cannabis can save the World!


Tradker
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MS is an industry - neurologists & the pharmaceutical companies don't want to know about CCSVI, as it effectively treats symptoms of MS Without the use of toxic drugs. I have had angioplasty for CCSVI, as I had a venogram and I was found to have Very blocked jugular & azygous veins which prevented blood flow to the brain. An interventional radiologist treated me with angioplasty which clears these blockages, and I feel 1,000% better. Neurologists are sour grapes because a vascular specialist performs this procedure, instead of them dishing out toxic drugs.


CCSVI
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Maybe if the writers of this article had done some research on results of CCSVI studies around the planet they would know this fits right in with the theory. They have concluded that certain people with the disease (mostly the most degenerative and debilitating version of the disease) are much more likely to see results from Liberation, and that it is a factor that makes the disease worse but is not the causal factor.


Sanity
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Dr. Alastair Compston jumps to conclusions. Guess what? The same genetic anomalies involved in the autoimmune problem are implicated in venous malformations. The copy number variations are the same. There are connections between Vitamin D and genetics in both cases. It doesn't have to be one or the other. So, same cause, but it doesn't mean that the autoimmune part is dominant. Also, no mention of financial disclosures here--Dr. Compston does have connections to one of the MS Drugs, so he may be right, but perhaps overstating his case. CCSVI is not hysteria--stating it as such seems like hysteria on his part. More than one LARGE and reputable study shows a correlation between MS and CCSVI.


Faith
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I think there is some confusion in interpreting the article. The argument in the article is over the cause of MS, genetic vs. CCSVI. Treating the twisted veins may help MS symptoms, but that is not what is at debate. The debate is whether MS causes CCSVI as a symptom, or if CCSVI causes other classic MS symptoms. In either case, the surgery may be a valid treatment, but perhaps there are other treatments that could supplement and prevent the need for multiple surgeries. In any event, I find it striking that non-scientists with no research background are the most inclined to respond emotionally to these topics. Some here even posit that the researchers are trying to disprove something with the sole intention of preventing a cure. Don't you realize that they would have every reason to want to find that cure? Unlike the perception in these comments, researchers tend to be very compassionate people who want to help as many people as possible. The way they best know to do so is by finding the truth, whatever it may be.


zhenya
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seems exactly what the establishment wanted. there is no genetic cure so it leads back into darkness and research for another 200 years. I am not a scientist and i cannot blindly deny their findings (if indeed it was their findings) but ccsvi is found in ALL ms patients, its not a gene variation, its not a mystery, its a defect that at the very least cannot be considered functional or healthy and its quite evident that re-narrowing causes new symptoms. So the question is to look for the gene responsible for the defect and work to eliminate it from gene pool. At the start is not the immune system, at the start is a defect.first deny then get the big guns at Oxford and Cambridge to establish legitimacy and return to regularly scheduled mystery.


Marcie
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@Prof. Pye Chartt. Sure, but it was on the homepage yesterday for hours. I checked and the story broke at 2pm and that's when it was up. Maybe you didn't notice it. It's still top of health?I think you just like play the role of the almighty News Critic, but you're wrong this time.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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@ Marcie: Thanks, Marcie. However, with all due respect to CTV, the "cancer story" in question is big news, and never received the "headline" attention that this medical news item is being given. (It was effectively relegated to a medical aside for the day, in my opinion.) Surely such a MAJOR cancer breakthrough deserves "headline" attention.


ann
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My son, age 21, just had a severe illness where myelin was destroyed. Drs said it looked like he had MS for ten years. Though stable, for 9 months there was little improvement. We started him using progesterone and in 3 weeks the change was profound. I would encourage everyone with TBI or MS like diseases to consider progesterone. Read "After Shock" an article in Emory Magazine - spring issue and anything by Don Stein, at Emory Med school about this.


Julia
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This would explain how many people in one family can come down with MS. I always suspected it had a strong genetic component.


Marcie
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@Prof. Pye CharttUuuuugh, they had that story up yesterday afternoon. Old news. It's still in health. Nice try though


Askance in N>S.
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As far as I Know, no-one ever claimed that MS was a vein disorder. On the contrary Dr. Zamboni claimed that his research indicated that vein restriction was "related" to MS. Read: symptom. This is a case of the editor and writer of this CTV news item not carrying out their responsibilities properly. Will they be held accountable for their mistakes?


montrose
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I don't think most people thought that MS was caused by restricted veins, but that the procedure was useful for relieving symptoms of MS.If it improves peoples' lives, then legitimize the treatment, but continue doing research for the cure.Seems a simple solution that doesn't put any research jobs in jeopardy, but helps people to live better lives.


Cynical
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Interesting that this study was done by neurologists - those most likely to lose out (along with all the pharmaceuticals) should "Liberation Treatment" prove to be a cure as opposed to a palliative procedure. Rice bowls need to be protected.


Kathleen
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Considering that MS has identical symptoms of hypothyroidism, and considering that with hypothyroidism plaques develop in the veins as a result of inflammation, they're likely the same disease or almost. We have so many toxins and hormones in our food, water and air, how is it that more of us aren't sicker; the body can only take so much. Fluoride in the water I drink is a bad one for my symptoms. The autoimmune disease explosion (MS, hypothyroidism, dementia's, lupis,... - they're all a wakeup call). The plaque seen in the vessels of those with MS is like those with hypothyroidism and is a symptom, not the disease itself. Getting rid of the plaque is a bandaid - yes, from what I've heard from acquaitances that had gotten the treatment it works wonders, but its still just a bandaid. It does come back. I take a pile of supplements that do the same thing - only problem is when I don't have the money for the supplements, the symptoms - they come back and its very debiltating. I have hypothyroidism (not the autoimmune type).


King Salmon
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Having heard Dr. Zamboni speak at the 2011 ISET conference about CCSVI, he did not appear to be a crackpot raking in cash for a sham procedure as this article implies. His premise is based on MS patients' brains with pathologic evidence of venous hypertension, (initally described on autopsies over 100 years ago - not a new theory), and demonstrating venous hypertension in some of these patients with an anatomic abnormality he could fix.In fact, Dr. Zamboni called for more study of his theory by impartial institutions using a large and randomized population of well screened MS patients who met the anatomic criteria. He was critical of the procedure being done by unscrupulous individuals who did not adequately assess their MS patients to determine who would benefit, (though the $20-25k the patients spent served as screening enough).My remarks are not intended to diminsh the importance of the genetic findings suggesting MS is an autoimune/inflammatory disease, nor do I have a financial interest in Dr. Zamboni's theory. But MS can be a devastating disease and we need to thoroughly evaluate a treatment's efficacy prior to denouncing it.


DasG
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MS is commoner in Northern Hemisphere, so environment play as much part as genes.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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Not to minimize the importance of this story, but, the "biggest" medical news today is a new leukemia treatment that cancer researchers say exceeds their "wildest expectations" and could be one of the biggest advances in cancer research in decades. Kindly also give it its due space, CTV. Thanks.


Frustrated
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Liberation Treatment is just that a treatment. No one is praising it as a miracle cure at this point. I had it done and had some great improvements. I don't know how or why. It has been long enough now that they are not a figment of my imagination or else I would imagine myself cured. MS is a giant puzzle. It's complex. Perhaps many things play a role in it. News reports discrediting theories that should not be forgotten yet do not help anyone. Why not say something new about "a new idea regarding MS has been discovered" as opposed to reinforcing a constant battle between who could be right or wrong.


Renee Beaudry
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Could it not be considered that the CCSVI treatment, although not a cure, is a way to help relieve the symptoms caused by the disease? I have witnessed it on a friend of mine and it improved her condition immensely! Although she thinks she has to return for a 2nd treatment, at least now she can live a relatively normal life again by being able to walk, work part time and dance with her husband again. She is only 44 years old.Diabetes was a death sentence about 150 years ago until insulin was discovered.. it does NOT cure diabetes, found to be a genetic based issue if the right circumstances activate it. However, insulin does allow the victims to carry on a normal life and with regulatory measures can live way past the previously life expectancy.Why can it not be so with this treatment? Not a cure but a way to ease the suffering and extend and improve quality of life?


Tom in North Bay
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Tell that to my sister who went to US for Liberation treatment, and has regained alot of mobility. I love how they will do all kinds of research to DISPROVE a theory, instead of curing the goddam disease...just like USA, Canada is all about keeping people sick


island girl
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There is more money to be made in the gene therapy than in the vein therapy.


hmmm
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It is strange that in 2 days, we heard T Cell responsible in leukemia and now involve in MS. First I always beleive it was either a brain disorder or the immune system. The generative cell that control your body, blood, everything. How a vein ( a simple tube) can be the cause.I am not saying anything negative but because a lot of money is involve ( from drug company involve in cancer) i would not be surprise that in 2 days, we are not hearing anything again on the T Cell discovery. I sincerely hope not but always has been when scientiic discover something...


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