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Date: Sunday Jul. 17, 2011 5:58 PM ET

The oft-used recommendation to drink six to eight glasses of water a day "is not only nonsense, but is thoroughly debunked nonsense," argues a Scottish physician in a medical journal commentary. But many are already disagreeing.

Dr. Margaret McCartney, a general practitioner, writes in this week's British Medical Journal that there is no clear evidence that drinking lots of water offers any health benefits. Yet, she says, the "myth" persists and is trumpeted by Britain's National Health Service, the equivalent of Health Canada.

Health officials in Canada are among those who tell citizens to aim for eight glasses of water a day. Eat Right Ontario, a joint service of the Dietitians of Canada and Ontario's Ministry of Health Promotion, says water helps to move nutrients and waste through the body, maintain normal blood pressure, and regulate body temperature.

It advocates nine glass of water a day for women and 13 a day for men.

But McCartney insists that too much water can cause problems. It can lead to hyponatremia, which means low sodium levels in the blood. She also worries whether water exposes people to pollutants.

McCartney speculates that the "8 cups of water a day myth" is being propagated by bottled water companies that are out to make a profit.

McCartney notes that a new international health initiative called "Hydration for Health," which promotes drinking more water for a healthier lifestyle, is sponsored by Danone, which markets the Evian and Volvic bottled water brands.

"There are many organizations with vested interests who would like to tell doctors and patients what to do. We should just say no," she says

McCartney argues that there is no high quality published evidence to support claims that drinking increased amounts of water offers benefits. She says reports that increased water can improve concentration and mental performance in kids, for example, have not been confirmed by research studies.

While there are some health conditions that do benefit from drinking more water, such as in people with recurrent kidney stones, the fluid's ability to prevent disease is conflicting, at best, she says.

A number of experts were quick to lash back.

In comments sent in to BMJ.com, Caroline J. Edmonds, a senior lecturer at the School of Psychology at the University of East London said she knows there is "well established literature" about the negative effects of dehydration on mental skills, both in adults and in children, which McCartney didn't mention.

Thomas Sanders, a professor of nutrition and dietetics from King's College London noted that McCartney's article hadn't been peer-reviewed. He also noted that McCartney failed to mention the 2004 report from the influential Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board.

That report reviewed all the studies done to date and was sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the National Institutes of Health, Health Canada and other groups.

The report set general recommendations for women at about 2.7 litres of total water from all beverages and foods, a day, and men at 3.7 litres a day. Those who are physically active or who live in hot climates may need to consume more, it noted.

It said that about 80 per cent of people's total water intake comes from beverages -- including caffeinated beverages -- and the other 20 per cent is derived from food.

And good news for coffee lovers -- it said that when it comes to meeting daily hydration needs, caffeinated beverages can contribute as much as non-caffeinated options.

The panel also noted: "The vast majority of healthy people adequately meet their daily hydration needs by letting thirst be their guide."

"We don't offer any rule of thumb based on how many glasses of water people should drink each day because our hydration needs can be met through a variety of sources in addition to drinking water," Lawrence Appel, chair of the panel that wrote the report, said at the time.

Strangely, that is likely the advice that McCartney herself would offer.

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sm in montreal
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8 cups of water is not very far off the mark. If you count the Total amount of water intake in any 24 hours, this figure is close to accurate. I am considering the water content of 3 square meals plus all the snacks in between. 2 glasses of coke, an ice cream, a slice of water melon, a cup of coffee or a capuccino, fruits, a glass of milk, 4 beers. Do the math!


robin hood
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Personally I keep a glass (I hate plastic) jug of water in my fridge at all times all year round! If it’s very hot outside for long periods I keep two. I know and accept responsibility for drinking cold water when I'm aware that the body actually absorbs room temperature much quicker, reducing the amount of spent energy having to warm it before it can be absorbed! You betcha your urine is a clear—simple monitoring method of indicating whether or not you’re receiving enough water! Smelly and concentrated (yellow) increase intake!Those with diabetes my heart goes out to you—you’re between a rock and a hard place—keep a close watch on your feet and hopefully you’ve got someone around who will regularly give you a foot massage!


CYL
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Drinking 8 - 8oz glasses of water in a day is average for people weighing between 150 - 170 lbs depending on their activity. One can determine the number of glasses/day by dividing their weight in half, 1st number being the number of glasses, plus it depends on the physical sweating one does for that day.I know that if I drink more than the calculation above without being active I feel like a water balloon.Each person is different, when you're thirsty you drink. Just keep in mind that drinking ice cold water or water which is colder than your body temperature may feel good for the moment but the internals gets overworked to warm that water.


Chris
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Whose payroll is this yahoo on??? Water is LIFE!!! Those who don't drink 6-8 glasses a day are usually the inactive ones. I drink the recommended amount because it stops me from overeating, keeps me from drinking soda, and alcohol, and it regulates my digestive system.


Steve
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Having a dry mouth and the typical 'thirsty' feeling is the final sign of dehydration! This new 'revelation' that we in fact don't need to be drinking a fair amount of water throughout the day is going to lead to more illness and disease. Try drinking about a 0.033 x bodyweight in kg's per day for a week or two (litres). The posititve effects thereof (especially if you've been a chronically dehydrated person suffering the too often accepted issues of modern day living and 'ageing' actually often linked to lack of water in your body) will allow you to experience the truth of the matter as opposed to trusting the words of others.


edCP
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In a country such as Canada, where it is not very appealing, but very true, that we can drink the water out of our toilets, why the hell are we buying bottle water?


simon saids
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8 glass of water a day is impossible. who can drink 8 glass of water. 8 bottles of beer, no problem.


TwoDogGuy
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If I'm an obscure medical doctor or researcher and want to get famous in a hurry, I might try arguing we don't need the widely acknowleged amount of water per day. Some people will do anything for their 15 minutes of fame.


Lynn
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When your urine is almost colorless, you're drinking enough water. Getting healthy fats or supplements (Omega 3s and 6s) in your daily diet (while reducing saturated and transfats plus high-glycemic index foods) allows your body to maintain healthy fluid levels in your cells while flushing out toxins... resulting in a clear head, lots of energy, and weight-loss. Google FirstLine Therapy for more info. We are what we eat.


John in Victoria
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The recommendation that we drink eight (or whatever) glasses of water per day actually predates the production and marketing of bottled water by various companies by many years. Therefore, anyone who isn't old enough or well-informed enough to be aware of this needs to check it out before suggesting that the bottled water companies are the source of the recommendation. They have just jumped on an old bandwagon.


retiti
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drink water! its good for you! but please, for the love of the planet, STOP DRINKING BOTTLED WATER. some of the biggest brands out there are just fancified municipal tap water anyhow. get a brita if you're paranoid about 'stuff' in your water.


David Hastings
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Most people don't even know when they need water, unless they're physically active and not all people are. I've known people who will drink water only in the morning or at night, amounting to about 2 glasses per day. For the most part people are distracted by other things in life to pay attention to their physical needs. That's one reason why disease is so rampant these days. And by the way, 8 cups of water is not that much, especially if you spread it out over the day. One cup every 1 or 2 hours is fine.


David J
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Bottled water costs about $1 per litre. Tap water costs about 30 cents per 1000 litres (cubic metre). Drink more water? By all means -- but drink tap water. It's cheaper, and there's no bottle to dispose of after.


Alyx Crawford
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Re: diabetes, ms, etc -- obviously the guidelines for how much to drink, both official and the folk wisdom being suggested, are for typical adults. If you have a medical condition then different rules apply. Some posters are bang on when they suggest drinking WATER when you're thirsty. I love my Diet Pepsi, but I'm still thirsty when it's gone. Only water quenches my thirst.


Salt and Vinegar
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Just like spending too much time in the sun causes skin cancer - a myth propagated by sunscreen companies.


Jamey
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Wow the people on here are really ignorant about water. The person who said you can avoid a hangover by drinking water is correct, if you get a hangover it's your own fault drink equal parts water to alcohol and you will NEVER get one. And I don't think most people have to worry about draining all the sodium out of there system, if your diet is that tight that it may be a concern, then chomp down a Big Mac, you will get all the sodium you need. I've forgotten more about water and it's effects than most people on here will ever know.


Jamey
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This Doctor is just plain wrong. The Cells in your body are made up of water. Your blood is 83 per cent water so drinking plenty of fluid helps regulate Blood pressure, your Brain is 90 per cent Water so drinking water helps eliminate headaches, your muscles are 75 per cent Water, drinking water helps eliminate cramps, I could go on and on. I personally would recommend drinking 1 Gallon of water a day.


Terry
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Most of the comments here are correct. If your thirsty drink. If your hungry eat. The doctor has a very good point, and she's talking about today, now. It is sponsored by the companies. But what I will say is. Mankind has been drinking water since we began. The water has natural sodium and minerals in it. The bottled water company takes most of that out. You switch the way our bodies have processed water for millions of years. I see problems in that equation. I for one will not drink that demineralized water or bloat myself to the point of wanting to lay down for a nap. If you listen to your body. There shouldn't be a problem. The old saying goes. If it's not broken. Don't fix it. Preventative measures is don't stand behind your vehicle when the exhaust is pouring fumes into the air or not taking medicine if you don't need to.O h and one more thing. Water will flush sodium out of your system. No sodium = problems. Especially with the low sodium consumption of todays standards.


Bryan
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I think drinking a good amount of water hydrates the skin and makes you have a healthy glow. I don't know if I ever aim to drink 6-8 glasses but every time I'm near the tap..(yes the tap water.. not the pricey bottled stuff) I make sure to gulp down at least half a glass because too much water makes you feel bloated and I don't think that's good for you at all.


Helga
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Canada Health is so "soviet" and totalitarian in its pronouncements to the gullible Canadian public. Think for yourselves and do what feels right for you instead of having a Nanny State shill out how you should conduct your lives all the time. For heaven's sake cut the apron strings from Big Brother Government!


Paul ~ Kitchener
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How about this ! Let your body, and your brain be your daily guide, (not just with water, but, everything else). When thirsty, enjoy a beverage of your choice - in moderation of course. The medical field is full of studies, and reports, on everything in this world, and read them with the same intelligence you would, in reading the National Enquirer". Enjoy living and do all things in Moderation and use your own judgment in all things. Corporations sell product and services - Doctors sell Pills and Reports.


Darlene in Williams Lake
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Dr. Margaret Mc Cartney must be very young. 8 glasses of water a day as been promoted a long time before bottled water arrived, so it's not a conspiracy for profit. Ha, ha. A very small percentage of water loss in your body constitutes dehydration. Do you realize the reason you get a hangover after drinking alcohol is because you usually use pop as a mixer, but kidneys need water and without it they drain it from the brain (you will die without water for the kidneys) thus producing a hangover..... If you drink alcohol... use water as a mixer.


jimper
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well i have m.s. and all the called experts say drink lots of water to prevent infection well mt urinary track is screwed cuz of m.s. so much for the water consumption thing from jim


MarcO
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Well JC, the amount of sugar in fruit is definitely a lot less than in fruit JUICE.


robin hood
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Catch up -- this is old news -- you know your body is a remarkable machine it will tell you everything you need to know if you pay attention to it! This includes telling you when you’re thirsty -- that’s when you drink water. Not enough or too much water can kill you just asked marathon runners! Honestly, you should be avoiding excessive intake of those crappy power drinks and that god awful liquid sugar --pop! Personally I never touch them. Realize that marketing is marketing our health is the least of their fears!


J.C.
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Well Marco eating fruit also contains sugar as it is a natural ingredient of fruit. Fruit juices are fine providing they are pure juice and not sugar added juices. Read the labels to find out which are pure or which have added sugar. (often fruit punches are loaded with added sugar) I personally never measure what amount of water I drink in a day. If I am thirsty I drink, if I'm not I don't!


Aaron
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It's even more ridiculous (and harmful) if those 8 glasses have flouride in it. Ouch! Dentists and doctors are rich, and complicit, because of flouride. Doctors don't want to cure cancer, then they would be out of business too. (No more perks and research and business, and patients for them and their rich Drug companies masters). Check it out.


rose
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This is a very dangerous statement I am diabetic and have to drink water because of the meds I am on. I have one question what about the kidneys and liver?


Ida
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I too feel that when your are thirsty you know it and so does the body. I dont drink a lot of water, just when i feel the need,, and I am a healthy 73 year old. I agree the water companies get a lot of money through the water bottle industry, so think about that. The need to carry a bottle of water around everywhere is nonsense, unless you are running or doing strenuous work. Its a habit, and costs lots of money not to mention the environment with all that plastic. Drink tap water, how do you know whats in the bottled water, except what it says on the label. ???


Stu
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I'm 53, according to my doctor I'm in perfect health, I probably don't drink 2 glasses of water in a month, I drink coffee & juice, if I drank 13 glasses of anything in a day I'd spent my whole day at the toilet. there was a time in my life when I drank about 30 beer per day, that just made me stupid & destroyed my sleep.


Believer
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I'm just going to be safe and drink a rain barrel of water every day.


Mary Mancini
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This study should include people who have diabetes insipides from birth. I drink only water all day and nite. I cant say how many glasses a day but at least a gallon.M y point is that I am a 75 yr old female with few wrinkles, never had surgery. and dont look my age. I say the water has done it All I need is water and a bathroom close by


MarcO
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Here's a simple way to know the right amount of water to drink in a day: drink water when you're thirsty! Stay the hell away from soft drinks, energy drinks, and caffeinated drinks as much as possible, and if you need your vitamins, get it from fruits instead of fruit juices, which contain way too much sugar. Easy, huh?


Sam C
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If drinking more water results in more frequent urination, then the tank is full.


khrum
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Hmm, for me those articles are just some kind of guideline. My best friend tells me when i need to drink or eat. It tells me many times a day . Thats my BODY who knows better then any of ou doctors out there. Not enough good Docs out there dont believe me just check University wash out coming from there. Doctors today are like mecanics change parts or in their case just try this pill if it wont work try that pill. Comes down that you cant trust them since they are bought by big Companie with greed at they end. Listen to your boby and you will spent less time at the Doc. office .


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