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Date: Mon. Jan. 26 2009 10:00 PM ET
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the much-anticipated Tory budget will include government spending to stimulate the economy, but will also feature tax cuts aimed at "getting money in consumers' pockets."
"I think that what we can be sure is, it will be a good budget for the economy," Harper told CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife on Monday.
However, Harper refused to specify the size of the tax cuts, and told Canadians to "stay tuned.
"Some of those tax initiatives will involve getting money in consumer's pockets, so that ordinary people, working class people, middle class people, can spend money," Harper said, adding that the cuts will be "affordable" in the long-term.
Still, the Liberals have said that cutting taxes for middle-class Canadians would throw the country into long-term deficits, and they've threatened to vote against the budget.
The Conservatives have gradually leaked details about the budget in advance of its official release on Tuesday, including $64 billion in deficit spending over the next two fiscal years. It marks the first time in a dozen years that Ottawa's books have run into the red.
But Harper declined to get into specifics about how many jobs will be created through massive government spending, which includes $7 billion for infrastructure spending and $2 billion for public housing projects, among other initiatives.
"I think that the game of predicting jobs is very dangerous" said Harper, adding that there are too many influences on the economy to pin down a specific number.
The Tory budget plans to make good on a previous promise to provide funding for home renovations to make them more energy efficient.
Still, faced with the prospect of loosing power through a non-confidence vote, Harper urged his Parliamentary colleagues to "stop the political games and get on with the business of passing some of these economic measures."
Harper then hinted that he would push for another election in the event his budget is defeated: "We'll have to go to an election and the people will have to decide this."
All eyes on the Grits
With the NDP and Bloc indicating they will oppose the budget no matter what it contains, all eyes will be on the Liberals. Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff, who took over the party's leadership from Stephane Dion in December, has appeared lukewarm to the idea of a coalition with the NDP - and one that would be supported by the Bloc Quebecois.
But his party has not indicated either that a coalition is off the table.
Liberal finance critic John McCallum repeated his party's stance that the "devil is in the (budget's) details," and they will study the document closely before making a decision.
"Should we decide to bring the government down, then the ball is in the governor general's court," McCallum told CTV Newsnet's On the Hill Monday evening. "The coalition is a possibility, but that is not our decision.'
Coalition still on, says NDP
NDP finance critic Thomas Mulcair was more definite about continued talks of a coalition, saying planning for an alternative government should the Tories' fiscal document fail is "the only responsible thing to do."
Mulcair said that even if the budget contains measures to help the unemployed and disenfranchised, the Harper government has set bad precedents in the past - promising tens of billions of dollars earmarked for infrastructure that resulted in only millions actually flowing.
Mulcair also painted as false spin the Tory claim that an unnecessary election would have to be thrust upon voters. The Conservatives have repeatedly claimed a Liberal - NDP coalition - especially one propped up by the separatist Bloc - would be undemocratic.
Citing the "unanimous view" of 35 constitutional experts from across the country, Mulcair said within a six-month period of the last election, the Governor General must give the official opposition - in this case with the support of the coalition partners - the chance to obtain the confidence of the House should the government be defeated.
"That's what terrifies Stephen Harper," said Mulcair.
"(The Conservatives) are in a fight to save their lives."
McCallum stated the Bloc is not part of the coalition, and that they simply signed a "non-aggression pact" with the Liberals and the NDP.
"Harper has worked with Bloc as well. This is not new in Canadian politics," said McCallum. But he warned: "We're not there yet, the first decision is whether to support the budget."
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Please let's not even entertain any protectionist responses to this issue. Canadian consumers go south to shop because of the cheaper prices. How about resorting to competitive pricing as a solution...that will keep Canadian shoppers at home.
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Geoff
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Come on Harper caved in to your demands, start acting responsible. Compromise should not be just one way.
This about Canada not the ambitions of you and your parties. All parties have behaved disgracefully.
Did you not get the message, people have had enough. Stop with all the negative retoric and work for Canada.
Sam
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Well I must say, who all think this Coalalition should go through is nuts, it was not the present Goverments fault that we are in this state, but the world Domminion, Canada has reflected best off compared to other Countries, and to you all think this stimilise Package is a lot,wake up , pretty much have you have no clue what is going on around the world, USA 850 Billion, England 500 Billion, Iceland Bankrupt. Give your heads a shake, Canada 60 Billion in wich will be paid of in 5 Years, The Coservative Party has done a excellent job containing the Economic nightmare, and the last people I would want to take care off this Economic nightmare is the Bloc or NDP, they are all useless and all they due is fighting for power, and for Jack Layton, stating no matter what is in the budget he will dismiss, what a clown. And no this if this coalilition goes through, say good bye to the Bloc and NDP, Canada is to smart for there rederect and Power Games.
RRO
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Mr. Harper has done that.
But rather than show maturity on the matter, the Liberals, NDP and Bloc are now saying that the Conservatives can't add things they want to the Budget as well.
That kind of mentality is not a compromise, it is blackmail. If this budget fails, then the Govenor General should place the decision in the hands of Canadians.
The Liberals started by saying they would judge this budget once they sough it. Then they started demanding that there be no tax cuts. They don't want a compromise they want to seize power through a coalition.
Mel
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bcdarr
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We the tax payer will have to pay for the deficit (tax cuts included) and it's gonna cost us more than Harper gives us.
All Harper is doing is offering to drive us to Money Mart where we will pay dearly for our own money and expect a thank you in the process!
Well I say NO THANK YOU Mr. Harper. Do something responsible for me and spend the money I've already sent wisely. And stop treating me like an idiot. After all I'm not one of your ministers.
Raymond
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Believe me, running a deficit goes against every fibre in Mr. Harper's body. The Hapless three-stooge coalition is holding a gun to his head. Blame them.
For the past three years people were screeching that Harper refused to work with anyone. Now he is working with them and being assailed for it...
Dan from McMurray
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R D
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Shane - Miramichi
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ATT.
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Richie in Calgary
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Or....cut the crap and tax the religions like the rest of us are taxed, and put the money into proper Canadian priorities.
Michelle from Langley
said
My bet, $500... Hopefully before RRSP season so I can put the money into RRSP's rather than Made in Walmart stuff that I really don't need
kate
said
Why is no one up in arms about all the job cuts announced today - mostly by companies that made billions in profits but want to protect their rich shareholder's payout because it's a billiion or two less than last year? How much do you want to bet, those jobs will be created in India and China quietly in a few months?
sunnyvegas
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Give me back what I work for and let me decide what I should do with it. I don't need a big brother to spend my hard earn money.
Its up to me to buy a car, food, play lottery or just put it under my pillow.
Remember my fellow Canadians. No matter who's in power Conservative, Liberals, NDP or Bloc. Every dollar you give to Ottawa. ONLY 10 cents put to use. 90 Cents is a waste through the channel of different level of governments.
May
said
Does the coup coalition; (led by unelected Iggy, supported by smallest socialist party Layton and separatist Duceppe) have any idea how out of touch they are? I don't understand why the left-wingers are so against Obama's policies.
Paul In Ajax
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” April 28, 2005
Jack Layton, the leader of Canada’s New Democrat Party (NDP), accused Tory leader Stephen Harper of cuddling up to separatists in his quest to topple the Liberal government. NDP Leader Jack Layton struck back at Stephen Harper on Thursday, saying the Conservative Leader will be “getting into bed with the separatists” if the Tories and Bloc work together to defeat the Liberal budget.
Steve the Pundit
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- a deficit caused by lowering the tax burden on the already-overburdened middle class, allowing them to breathe easier and inject that money either in the economy or in the bank (remember, money deposited in the bank is available to be loaned by the bank, helping to ease the credit crunch); or
- a deficit caused by a boondoggle of new, inefficient government programs which serve only to inflate the bureaucracy that threatens to strangle this country...
"SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!"
K. Long
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Sounds good but where is this money going to come from?If we use this money to mainly pay down our personal debt how does this stimulate our economy? Where's the purchasing of goods and services going to take place? I need some relif from outragous interst rates charged on credit cards used to pay for expensive car repairs and home inprovements. How about cutting the rate in half payed out on cards for a 12 to 24 month period so we can actually pay off some of the principal! I've seen these type of tax breaks come down the pipe before and they have Never been any help to me as a middle income earner.
PVT
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You say that only a coalition gov't can provide stable leadership? ha ha - are you nuts?!? Icelands coalition gov't just collapsed admidst their financial crisis
We need that like a hole in the head. Give your head a shake buddy...
Ken MacAskill Berwick N.S.
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Island Man
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Eric in NS
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DP
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1st of all, it is obvious that any stimulation must be aimed on made in Canada products only. Allowing people to spend their tax cuts on popular categories like clothing and electronics - will help China's economy, not Canadian. It is also immoral to let some "middle-class" representative buy yet anther plazma TV - while at the same time a low-income person can't afford to buy meat every day.
We need government that would listen to poor people - not to rich. We need socialist government.
ME
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I heard that there was going to be a tax rebate for home improvements especially environmental ones.
That will:
make the home owners think about doing things they need done but have put off if the government pays some and especially if it's things like a new furnace save the homeowner money in the long run.
It will save jobs and make work for businesses.
It will help the environment.
We will all win in the long run
Rob from Montreal
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But we all know how this is going to end: The Liberals won't like it and will oppose it; the govt' will then fall; Harper will go to GovGen and ask for an election and then we're back to where we were 4 months ago...
Have people's minds changed that much in 4 months? Doubt it... We'll be in the exact same place only we'll have blown another 250-mil on a stupid election caused by the NDP/Bloc/Lib's stubbornness...
Our politicians hard at work... gimme a break...
t flash
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SK Taxpayer
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Renate - Buckhorn
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Catherine
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We truly missed the big one - could anyone imagine what our economy would have been if Iggy and gang brought in the Carbon Tax!
Well - yes - probably Torontonians. They would have their hand out and expecting Big Brother to take of them.
Jean
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The people of this country voted in the Conservative Government, and I am one of them.
Voting down the budget before it comes out tomorrow is a big mistake on the
Part of the NDP and the Block Quebecois.
I am so sick and tired of reading in the newspaper of negative comments and game playing from these Party’s
Remember it’s our hard earned tax paying money that could be wasted on another election.
At a time like this where many are losing their jobs, politician need to learn to work together,and make things better instead of constantly attacking each other!
Fed-up in Fredericton
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Still, the Liberals have said that cutting taxes for middle-class Canadians would throw the country into long-term deficits, and they've threatened to vote against the budget.
If I, a working middle-class tax-paying citizen is not worth a tax cut in the eyes of the Liberals, never again will my vote ever grace one of their candidates in a Federal Election.
Joe from Montreal
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We should decided how we'll save or spend that money, instead of the bureaucrats in Ottawa. We can then cautiously pay down our debts, or invest it in viable business ventures, if we should so choose. Please, give us all a tax break already!
Nick in Sudbury
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So let's listen to the Liberals and donate more money to the unemployed and poor because "they will spend it all" Yeah....that makes me feel really good, knowing that every penny of my hard earned tax dollars will be spent to "stimulate the economy"
Next election I will remember which party tried to give the middle class a break during these tough times, hopefully every other Canadian remembers as well.
Drew in NS
said
Can we all agree please. Jack Layton you have got to go!!!!! You're useless Moaning and complaining has got to stop.
It's like you are making Canadians pay for getting beat up in school everyday.
Anyone agrees with me please respond. Enough is enough
Cory in Calgary
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leaking budget... too many holes in the bucket caused from past actions and poor governing.
You made a bad situation even worse due to calling an early election, squandering tax surpluses, taking Canadians for granted, and poor judgement are only a few of the reason Harper has to go.
Jobs have been lost all across Canada while Haarper was playing his political games...
Harpers Job is gone after tomorrow...He should have been protecting our jobs sooner and deserve to be out of a real job.
mitch
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Mike
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Keep it and fix the aging infrastructure.
Wes
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But alas, power hungry Jack and Gilles the Quebec King have already poo-pooed the idea of giving middle class Canadians back any money.
Rob
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Drew in NS
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If these parities are unable to survive as an entity they do not deserve to survive and force this one issue. Lets show by example. It will definitly show this is all about the Bloc New Liberal parties actual agenda.
That way Canadians can finally say, Mr Layton, Mr. Ignatiffe your fired Canadians refuse to let Quebec be the big winners on this.
Bring on the final election
Harper - you da man !
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A man who isn't going to panic when there is no need to panic. We are not in the same boat as other countries.
Looking forward to this budget and interested in what will be done to get Infrastructure dollars delivered.
I don't believe it is all the feds fault for only 20% of what is budgeted getting used. We'll see what streamlining the process and co-operation with the provinces and municipalities will bring.
Jack, for 'real change', take a course on Economics.
If the government runs a deficit, that means
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The deficit will cause higher taxes in the future.
Allan
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Get to work on helping us out politicians. We don't want a coalition or an election. I am not a dedicated conservative and I don't care if the liberals, conservatives or NDP are in power, the party that is elected with the most members should lead. The others should not try to grab power. I understand it was an idea from years ago but it doesn't work now.
Get to work and do your jobs.
Andrew
said
The existence of the coalition indicates that these parties have the same view on many issues, which is why they should not all be permitted in the debate. You cannot have a fair debate where there are 4 pros vs 1 con, or 1 pro vs 4 cons. You will get an unbalanced debate.
In the next debates the "coalition" should pick one representative, and they should debate the PM alone.
James - Eh!
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Send me some money. I will spend it.
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Willem Bokhout CD, CET, WO (Ret'd), Kingston, ON
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The Opposition parties must work with the Government to manage the local economy and the financial crisis. Petty comments from the Opposition leaders and useless soundbites from media "spin-meisters" are not required or desired.
Canadian voters want substantive and well-thought out infrastucture projects and policies which will add, rather than detrract from the countries wealth,and add meaningful jobs to the Canadian economy. Lets look after our own first and foremost!!
Politicians could take some serious lessons from the bi-partisan approach to governing taken by the American President, Barrack Obama and his administration.
Cynical partisan politics employed to ultimately seize power is a non-starter with informed taxpayers and Canadian voters in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great "Depression"!!!
Pro Patria!!
Mike-Edmonton
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Harper started the political
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Now he has to put up or shut up.
Mile Zero Victoria BC
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It's not tax cuts I want; but rather a stimulus to the economy by appropriate spending on green infrastructure programs such as public transit, investments to auto companies that will introduce green products ASAP and public housing geared to income among many other programs.
When we pool our resources, our taxes, we can make a bigger impact. By putting a few dollars in my pocket a year, that does little. I prefer to donate to the larger cause and thus prefer to pay taxes for beneficial programs for all Canadians and beyond.
Don't buy my vote with the promise of tax cuts, do what is right.
Colin
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James - Eh!
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If its to the middle and upper classes, it will do nothing to stimulate the economy as they pay off debt, save it, or go on vacation abroad.
If they are targeted to those who don't have such luxuries of choice, and will spend the money, then it should be a positive.
However, as Ignatieff stated, Harper speaks in two languages. What he says and what he believes and does are not always the same thing.
And even though he may be putting stimulus money on the table, the attached strings may make it impossible for anyone to spend. He's used that trick before.
john b fredericton
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Mike J
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Time to get out Jack and Gille
Layton in NB
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Part of the solution or part of the problem ?!?!?
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Political rhetoric like Layton and Ignatieff are throwing out there is not helping. If the Liberals really want an election then BRING IT ON NOW and stop the partisan rhetoric.
Canadians don't care about partisan games they just want politicians to work for Canada and stop the partisan nonsense.
Beadle Winnipeg
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Jess D
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R D
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DJM Ontario.
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Robert (Montreal)
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John E
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Bill
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They aggravate, frustrate and irritate me to no end.
I don't think Ignatieff is that big a nut case that he will jump into bed with them. If he does the Liberals are even crazier than I think they are.
Yes, Ignatieff you run on no tax cuts to the middle class and see where that gets you.
JP
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MAKE ME A BELIVER
Richard
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Thank-you
Rick W from Kentville
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my take on this
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Give me the cash. Show me the money!
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Send me the cash.
A government cheque is acceptable.
Ben from Halifax
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Lee in Calgary
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I truly hope that this budget provides relief that is back dated if it really wants to have an immediate effect, if not the delayed effect may only be seen after the natural recovery begins and certainly won't be worth the debit we're incurring to achieve a quicker recovery.
bella-in-ottawa
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Dale - Edmonton
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