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Date: Mon. Jan. 26 2009 2:01 PM ET
The federal budget will include $7 billion for infrastructure projects with an emphasis on getting "shovels in the ground as soon as possible," Transport Minister John Baird announced.
Baird, speaking in Ottawa on Monday, said $4 billion will be spent over two years to help fund provincial, territorial and municipal infrastructure projects.
"A big part of our economic action plan will include investing in our road, bridges, and water and sewer systems and in public transit," Baird said.
"By getting shovels in the ground on these types of projects we not only create jobs and allow our economic activity to grow but we also improve our economic competitiveness for decades to come."
The Tories are also spending $2 billion to support repairs, maintenance and accelerate construction at colleges and universities across Canada and $1 billion for a green infrastructure fund.
"We did not start this economic crisis but we will take steps to protect Canadians and our country from it," Baird said.
Liberal industry critic Gerard Kennedy said the Tories have an "unparalleled, miserable record" when it comes to actually putting up dollars to build bridges and roads.
Kennedy, addressing reporters after Baird's announcement, said Canadians should be skeptical because money announced by the Tories for many other previous projects has never been spent.
MPs back to work
Baird's announcement comes as members of Parliament are returning to work Monday, one day before the Tories present their federal budget -- which will need the support of the Liberals to survive.
In early December, Jean approved Prime Minister Stephen Harper's request to suspend Parliament, agreeing to put the government on hold until the end of January.
At the time, the Liberals and NDP had agreed to form a coalition, with the support of the Bloc Quebecois, after the Tories released a fiscal update which withdrew public funding for the federal parties and failed to include details of an economic stimulus package.
Harper sought a suspension of Parliament in order to avoid a confidence motion that would have likely toppled his government.
Since then, the Tories have consulted with various groups and leaders across the country about the budget, which will include an economic stimulus package.
Already, Human Resources Minister Diane Finley has announced a $1.5-billion fund for job training.
Finley told CTV's Question Period Sunday that the money will be available to people who are eligible for Employment Insurance as well as those who are not -- such as self-employed workers and stay-at-home parents who want to get back into the workforce.
Environment Minister Jim Prentice said Monday he thinks his government will survive the budget vote and that Canada's economy will recover.
"I'm confident that when this economic recession comes to a close that Canada will emerge even stronger and also that we'll have the best public finances in the G-7 both going into this downturn and also coming out of it," Prentice told CTV Newsnet.
Liberal support
The NDP and Bloc Quebecois are expected to vote against Tuesday's budget but the Liberals have said they'll wait to see the document before they decide.
However, on the weekend, the Liberals threatened to vote down the budget because it is said to contain a potentially contentious proposal to permanently slash taxes for middle-class Canadians.
While the Conservatives say the tax cuts will help working families during a challenging economic era, the Liberals say the rollback is ill-advised and will do little to stimulate the economy.
Conservative House Leader Jay Hill said Monday he's confident that the tax proposal won't stop the Liberals from supporting the budget.
"I'm quite optimistic that the Liberals... are going to take a responsible position, support the budget, support our government in the short term at least, and work together in the best interests of Canadians," Hill told CTV's Canada AM.
He said it was important that Ottawa get additional tax relief measures into the marketplace and into the hands of Canadians.
On Sunday, Liberal finance critic John McCallum said if the permanent tax cuts were very large the Liberals would be "very concerned" because it would saddle future generations with a big debt and a permanent deficit.
McCallum told CTV's Question Period Sunday that if the Tory budget fails to deliver what's best for Canada the Liberals will have little option than to vote it down.
However, senior Liberals are saying that Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff's instinct is to support the budget right now, CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife said Monday.
"My sense here is that the Liberals are probably going to end up supporting this budget because there probably is going to be enough in there for everybody," Fife told CTV's Canada AM.
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I fail to see just what a minister could learn by an on site visit that he couldn't get from people who are actual experts in the various fields of work involved. It is doubtful that he is any sort of nuclear engineer or expert in construction. Just another photo op...
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gb
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Harper has had his warning: budget good for Canada
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No hiding behind the Governor-General this time, Harpo.
USA cut taxes for eight years and USA is a mess.
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The deficit is booming entirely because of Harper.
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Harper cancelled the Liberal tax cut, then reinstated the Liberal tax cut. He is such a genius!
John Brown
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Harper didn't take ball; he shut down Parliament
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Of course they can't as their rhetoric is all BS, Conservatives are the most selfish group I've ever seen.
Bring on the ELECTION
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The Conservatives would rather actually have a problem to solve instead of guessing what to throw money at. The Liberals just want to speculate where money should be spent. They want to retrain people...ok in what industry? What's going to be the new popular industry? I don't know...do they?
We have only had a few months of slow times we shouldn't be going into huge debt because of a speed bump.
I encourage all of you to look at the TSX graph over the past 25 years, you will see that we are right where we should be inregards to growth, it was the past 7 years or so that have been out of character.
Pull out a straight edge and make it parallal with the slope from 79-95, it ends up right where it is today. In fact it's still a little higher then it should be.
Let's try and look at the big picture here, the sky is not falling.
Alberta Believer
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Time to bring in the Liberals to clean up the mess just like last time.
Harper was not elected to Prime Minister, he was appointed by the Con's.
He does not speak for the majority of canadians, he just got a few more 'Seats'."
Wow this is so devoid economic sense that I'll only look at the politics.
In our system JayJay we have minority governments. Sure most people voted against the Conservatives, but most people voted against the Liberals as well who you'd replace them with and by a larger margian. Coservatives have about 40% of the seats whereas the Liberals barely 30% if that. And they can speak for the nation?
Harper was appointed by the "Cons" Iggy was appointed by the "Grits". Same difference son.
K_W
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Jay Jay 11
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Time to bring in the Liberals to clean up the mess just like last time.
Harper was not elected to Prime Minister, he was appointed by the Con's.
He does not speak for the majority of canadians, he just got a few more 'Seats'.
Gary
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Alberta Believer
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So Niagara George, when will we pay off the federal debt? Or do you propose we get used to increasing it until we no longer attract investment?
Geeze! No wonder Ontario is in the toilet! And you expect the rest of us to take financial advice from the likes of you all?
I Don't think so! Homie don't play dat!
No Duceppe
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Brenda
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I agree putting a little more money back into our pockets will certainly help the economy. But we do have a long hard road ahead and it would certainly help if we could count on OUR Gov't to listen and work together............
Denise - Ex-Liberal
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Kathy SW Ontario
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Brent in Calgary
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Mike Edmonton
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Brian in Toronto
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This would save Canadians a bundle and make everything fair.
BA
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Tamara
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Niagara George
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We've all seen the bumper sticker that says, "We're spending our kids' inheritance." With the deficits Harper is planning, they will be spending our great-grandchildren's money.
If they would have kept the surplus, two years ago, and kept the GST at 7%, which was still much lower than most countries, we would be in a much better situation, today. But, Harper and friends are only interested in keeping power.
Obviously, lower taxes will attract many people. Perhaps the Libs should say they will eliminate income taxes. They can always change their minds after the election.
Harper has changed many points in his platform and I seldom see many negative comments posted here.
Alberta Believer
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But I guess the three socialist parties put guns to their heads threatening to take power and take this country back to Trudeaumania as being inspired by Mr. Obama south of the border.
We're truly in trouble.
freebird
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I agree with you. Harper is putting forward what the Opposition demanded back in the fall. It's politics everyone,even Obama has to play the game. I also agree things were pretty stable prior to the Layton led Coalitition debacle. If Obama's meeting with Haper goes well it will be easier to go forward for the sake of both countries. It would take a new government months to get up to speed to put through a stimulus package. Make your comments known to your local MPs, GG and fed reps not just these blogs.
Bring back Trudeau! get rid of the 4 idiots!
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We have all the information prior, why is that? Can`t we wait this budget night to annonce the budget?
I'm not sure why these guys are doing everything wrong. Looks like an insurance saleman that try to make you sign a policy and won,t shut up until you sign!
Politic is boring in Canada, we need a guy like Pierre Elliot Trudeau to make it exiting instead of plain boring!
John in Toronto
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No matter how you look at it, It will be either you pay now or pay later but make no mistake about it you WILL pay. What they should have done was lower the tax for the poorer folks, left the middle class where it is and closed the loopholes and increase the tax on the wealthier ones. Kept business separate from personal taxes and adjust as need be.
M M B Ont
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Dave W
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Greg in Nova Scotia
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Jeff Lewis
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I recall in previous years, even within the Harper government when the RCMP was called to investigate budget leaks.
Have we abandoned this practice?
André in Ontario
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Barb Malone
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Having said that, I would hope that very strict measures are taken to decide who is to be responsible for receiving this funding, that it actually creates jobs and stimilates the country abd even that the funding is released as promised. Further that the recipients are accountable, follow up audits need to be done in a timely matter.
Our politicians need to be accountable as well, to take responsiblity for their decision to put the country in such deficits for our future generations to pay. So often they are 'off-the-hook' when no longer in office.
Question - how does the Harper government have the right to announce funding or to install more Senators without having confidence of the House, I thought the house was in suspension at this time??
Gerald from Belleville
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I work hard every day and bring home a decent amount of cash, and I also send out a large amount of money to the government.
I need a break. I need a tax break so that I have a little more money to spend.
I'm tired of all my money going to the "lower" classes (if I'm middle, that makes the other lower, right?). The government should be responsible only to provide basic health care, access to education, lodging, and food to those in need. Let's recap: a heated shelter, three basic meals a day (with all required nutrients) and clean water, medical help when necessary, and access to public education. Anything else is a LUXURY. Sorry to say, but the government is NOT responsible for pocket cash. If you're on welfare, you shouldn't have disposable income...I don't want to pay for a welfare person's ciggys and brewskies.
I have people on welfare in my family, and have worked with welfare people: some genuinely need help. But a lot of them ARE lazy, SOME stereotypes are true! In Montreal, a mother on extended welfare CAN qualify to get a new computer (internet access supplied) every 3 years and 3 movie tickets a month, and more...this happened to 2 of my very lazy relatives in the past 3 years. My younger cousin, who works 2 part time jobs and studies full time, could not get a 500$ grant to pay for necessary school materials (I paid for them).
Give us middle class a break: if we go down, the lower classes won't have anything anyways...
A. Opine
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Not defeating the conservatives after they prorogued parliament to avoid a vote of confidence would be following one dangerous precedent with another, and two dangerous precedents don't make a right. It would only deepen the constitutional crisis and further erode the confidence and trust of the Canadian people in their government and country. The coalition must stand up for Canada and show Canadians and the world that minority governments here do not prorogue parliament to avoid a vote of confidence and get away with it.
Keith in Brampton
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As to the income tax cut for the middle class: sounds very much like a poison pill insertion. "Defeat this and tell the taxpayers in the election to follow why you don't want to give them a tax break." Typical Harper; worried more about short-term political gain than the good of the country.
Reginaldo
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Dale
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Of course they can't as their rhetoric is all BS, Libs are the most selfish group I've ever seen.
Nick in Gatineau
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- A coffee and a doughnut at Tim Horton's every day.
- A 1-way trip on the bus every day.
- Allows you 1 big ticket item such as a Stove, washer, dryer, chairs, sofa, etc...
- Additional RRSP contribution (More money the feds won't get for another 20 years).
Lose $ 1000.00, gain $ 50.00. What's wrong with that picture ?
Yo Flaherty, Private sale, $ 100.00 or better offer, MUST SELL !!! downtown property Ottawa, access to river, Incredible view, Building with huge clock on it, Library, 2 foyers, 2 living rooms, 20 + baths, 2 tunels, No Garage, fully landscaped, 2 sheds. Comes with its own LCBO and Barber, chauffeurs and security guards.
Interested ?
Vickie
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The Liberal party will have to find someone else, no one who has ever run, no one who has ever led. Same for the Conservatives, the Green, the Bloc and the NDP.
I don't believe any of them. I don't think most of us trust either of them.
I think bullies and childish behavior that we have seen from the MP's, the Senate and the Policical leaders is appauling.
The country is in a turmoil and Layton likes it that way. He will not support the budget but he won't say why, he just says no. He has not even heard it yet.
Ignetieff never was elected. Was not chosen by the liberal party members by vote, he walks in drops his hat and says, I will lead you. To where? To create havoc in Canada?
I am unsure of the Bloc, not sure if Duceppe is after the PM job or a seperate Quebec. The party is not federal so we cannot vote for them anyway.
The green party is about as strong as a single blade of grass lead by a person from another country.
I don't know who the solution is but I do know that this current parliment is not it. None of them.
At this time I am ashamed of our political leaders. Even if they have an election it will not be run clean, it will not be run honest, it will not be run with the best interest of Canadians in mind.
Don from Barrie
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Dom
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Harper (pre-election): We won't have a deficit and Canada's economy is strong.
Harper (post election): We will have a large deficit and teh economy will be in a deep recession.
He did a complete 180 on the issue literally within weeks. Harper is a walking contradiction - there are MANY examples...but Iggy or Layton wouldn't be any better in that regard - that's what politics is, you need need to adapt your product to your customer.
Harper tried to run his minority as a majority and that makes him a very dumb politician.Ignatieff is the best current choice, he is the brightest by far and will make quick work of Harper - he's going to be ahead of Harper in the polls within 3 months.
Chris Ottawa
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Teri
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Maybe everything that Obama is doing for the USA would not be good for Canada... But we are still attached by the hip to the USA and if they go down so do we period.
Warren
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kon
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B.C. has exactly the tax system Liberal calls for - they are latest to boom (2004) and the earliest to bust (late 2007), the high tax just kills every business and shorten econ booms. You go to Van, it looks a bit run-down cuz too much tax, no extra cash for ppl and business to renovate. High tax Liberals sucks
GG
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M M B Ont
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Jim in Ottawa
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We seriously need to cut-back considerably on the public service. It is far too big and far too expensive with its gaurenteed defined pensions plans, extended maternal/paternal leave, and gold-plated benefit plans.
A substantially trimmed-down public service would certainly help stem the tide of red ink.
Two lefts don't make a right
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Sharon Hancock
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Red X
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Historically the Economy/GDP does better under the Libs.
The last recession came under Mulroney's conservatives...
Canuck in Bellingham WA
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There are comments on here to the effect that leaking the budget early is wrong and that Harper should get his butt kicked for doing it. Actually it is just smart politics for a minority gov't to leak info so that the opposition parties have less ammo.
Anyhow, I read maybe 20 of the usual partisan comments on here, and gave up in disgust. I wish the parties would have a conscensus saying they will not have any of their hacks spouting rhetoric on here cuz we are all pretty sure that many of these posts are from the parties themselves.
canuckistani
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We have no one to blame but ourselves. Stop blaming people we elected fairly and legally time and time again. If you want less government then stop lining up for handouts. Each region gets their piece, it's just nuanced names for government welfare programs
Stop the Politicing!
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The stupid liberals cried aloud when their needs and wants weren't heard - and threatened to take their ball and leave the playground. So, the conversatives said, okay, we will listen, and they did!..to the Tune of a historic Deficit of $34 Billion!..(thanks!) And now the convervatives are announcing the mutually agreed upon economic stimulus package and all we hear are the liberal critics whining about the conservatives!
Will the Children please quiet down! Stop your complaining and make work together you whining liberals!
Sharon B. Another Westerner
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We seem to be vacant of responsible government no matter who gets in but why does Harper uses such underhanded tactics. If he was such a leader then why is he caving to opposition ? (!) Its because he would rather spend his time dividing Canadians and parliment. Obama is working to unit Americans and Harper works to divid Canadians. And its shows by the partisan comments that are always posted.
There is no way in hell that you can satisfy everyone but at least show a leadership that brings people together especially during these most turbulent times.
We need a leader of compassion and vision...Harper needs a microscope to see even the most simplist of things.
Randy
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Canada Goose Whistler
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I lost confidence in Harper when he said canadas economy was doing fine then he went & hide.
Wake up canada & let the liberals take us out of this mess.
Please Mr Harper step down Its the only good thing you can do for canada.
JR
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Glenn in London
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Steve V
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Dan
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That's right, I will save it, and in my new $5000.00 a year tax free savings account and save 100% of any taxes on my interest. Thanks Harper!
BTW, who brought in the idea that interest should be taxed in the first place. I remember a time when you did not pay taxes on interest. It was the Liberals that brought that one in. NO THANKS is my answer to that. I work hard for my hard earned taxes and I would like to keep some of it.
Sam C
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However, while the Liberals may object vocally, I suspect they will somehow manage to allow it to pass -- they cannot afford an election, and I'm not sure Iggy is prepared to honour the unholy alliance with Layton and Duceppe.
J.C.
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This is the position that the opposition and the coalition has put our government into. It is in my opinion blackmailto do things their way!!! It is no wonder many Canadians no longer vote at the poles with all the shananigans that go on in parliament so that each party can have their own way. The conservatives have never really had the chance to prove whether they could make a good contribution to our country with the nonsense that has been going on in parliament the last few years as they can never put anything through that is worthwhile, thanks to the opposition's constant threats.
I hope the cons will get a majority next time around so that at least they will get a chance to prove themselves worthy of running the country. I am so tired of parliamentarians games and back stabbing. The opposition has proven to me that they couldn't give a damn about the average Canadians only their "right to power". Or so they believe!!!
Maureen
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DW
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"In recent years it has become acceptable for the opposition to do little or nothing beyond "opposing" the government.How sad for all of us.I remember the days that anyone who opposed any idea was required to give a reason for their opposition,and actually propose an alternative."
He then went on to say,
"Frankly,it's a miracle Canada is still standing.If this country is ever really successful,it will be in spite of our Parliament rather than because of it's "work"."
Doug, you have opposed something without providing an alternative or thought-out solution.
Alan
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Red X
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Thursday, the Bloc will introduce amendments. The NDP will call for more social spending. The Libs will call for more protection of the vulnerable.
The Coalition OR Election will be in play to keep Harper to his Promises(Maybe)
February, the amendeded budget will have to be accepted by the Conservatives to pass 3 readings at which point it goes to the Appointed Senate.
Money starts to flow but does not have a statistical effect until 6 months later when the lag shows the data... Ofcourse by 2010 economic activity will improve due to Obama & the Dems...
Anthony
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I'm not even going to vote if we go to the polls. No one really deserves my vote at this point in time.
I suggest you do the same. Maybe another low voter turnout across the nation will change their thinking a bit, and perhaps they will listen to us, the Canadian people.
Until then, enjoy the dictatorship of the Canadian government.
anne ott
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Cindy
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But has one Liberal, NDP, or Bloc memeber thought that perhaps its time to give us a break????
Do ya think we enjoy carrying the burden of supporting all those on welfare?? Do ya think we like it that at every budget time we look for a break and all we get is the shaft. Hell, I have to pay for my neighbors kids to be babysat???? I looked after mine why can't they do the same??
And for all of you who seem to know that middle class will save the money or pay down debt I have news for you...we are sick and tired we want to surround ourselves with the things the so-called poor enjoy. I wanna go on a well desereved vacation. I want a new livingroom outfit. There are so many of us out there that need the break so maybe we can afford to do what the lower and upper class of this country get to do!!
If the liberals stop this budget due to breaks in it for the middle class..then there had better be an election cause this time there will be a majority!!!!
Lee
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Donna
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Cory in Calgary
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Cons made mistakes that were and are too costly. then tried to hood wink ALL Canadians with an early election full of lies and nothing has changed.
Vote the fools out and move on with a coalition...not much difference between a coalition of 3 parties or a coalition between two parties as the Cons need. Cons could have puckered up and kissed the butts of any one of the other three parties to form its coalition. Instead it tried to shove it up where the sun don't shine. That is and was not in Canadains best interest so therefore, the new coalition would be in Canadians best interest...GG.
Or would you like the Cons and Harper to continue ramming it where the sun don't shine everytime they try to bend you over as they threaten to get defeated in a majority vote in the House...get rid of the JOKE of the Century in Canadain Politics...bye bye Harper. Would you like a little whine with your...grovelling Alliance agenda Harper?
Alex (Toronto)
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Liberals have made their priorities clear. If the government wants to cause an election because they are unable to read a newspaper, watch television, or pick up a telephone, that's their issue. Adding tax cuts to the mix just creates a bigger hole that a future government will have to dig out of. The Mulroney government's inability to resolve this is why they tripled Canada's national debt.
Liberals are doing everything politically possible to ensure that Canada deals with the economic crisis in a useful way. Governments need to spend money in the short term to fill the job gap until the private sector can recover, and governments need to help workers and borrowers who have been hurt by the crisis. That's all the government should be doing. Conservatives are pulling out their doctrinaire tax-cut policies which have already failed. If they can't get past their ideology and acknowledge what is really going on, some other government will have to deal with the problem.
Liberals are giving the Conservatives a lot of room to solve the problem. If the Tories can't figure out a rational budget, the Liberals should offer amendments. Canada hasn't had a functioning government since Steven Harper quit his job at the beginning of September. Many other countries are taking hard steps to deal with the crisis; if Harper won't do the work that is required, he should step aside.
Concerned Canadian
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Tax cuts combined with deficit spending will indeed be a burden for future generations, unless the stimulus gets the economy back on track, and allows greater government revenues in the future. In that case, the Liberals should re-think their opposition to these cuts.
All of us owe a debt of gratitude, however, to the coalition members who had the guts to stand up against the Conservatives and demand a budget that responded to the world-wide economic crisis. It as certainly a wake up call for a minority government that thought it could push its conservative agenda during a time of economic crisis. Canadians are finally beginning to realize how the British Parliamentary system works- except for Mr. Harper, who today on the news repeated the misinformation that if his government is defeated, there must be another election. Why does he continue to misrepresent the facts this way?
It's true that the Liberals have complained about Mr. Harp[er going into deficit, but if he hadn't spent the surplus that the Liberals managed to accrue, then we wouldn't have to go into deficit now when we need to. Unfortunately, Conservative fiscal policy has put us in this position, and it took the coalition to get us out, at the cost of increased debt.
Jamie Lyle
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Norm from Ontario
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So I personally have no problem with the so-called "leaks" by the Conservative Party of Canada related to the upcoming budget, and if I may suggest, other than what some may call strategic manipulation, I see something different. In fact, new times call for new approaches and ideas and I for one, welcome the opportunity for "advanced" notice of what will be in the budget and see the strategy somewhat akin to the approach taken by the new U.S. President, Barach Obama.
I truly hope that Michael Igatieff exercises his considerable intellect and will support the budget, unless he finds something in it, immoral and help all of us reduce our anxiety level about our current situation by engaging in a coalition or prompting an election, when times call for calm, ala President Obama and a new world order - Canadian style of cooperation and true collaboration.
Fred - Brandon MB
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The NDP will defeat it no matter what. Layton cannot control his fixation on becoming the 1st NDPer in the cabinet, and nothing will divert him from that goal.
The Liberals have been laying the groundwork for voting against the budget to "save" Canada from Harper. The truth is that the opportunity to seize control of government is just too tempting. Even if Harper had allowed the Liberals free reign to write the budget, they still would defeat it. Liberals see themselves as the "natural governing party" and have an entitlement to govern.
Harper has abandoned all common sense to present a budget designed to appease the opposition, but they won't be appeased. Blatant self interest will win out over the best interests of Canadians
Kevin Kotski
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All of them are just a bunch of clowns.
If they don't pass this budget tomorrow watch the markets get slaughtered.
The world must scratching their heads at the baffoonism going on in Ottawa.
Ed Lenarcic, Toronto
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James in New Brunswick
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What is likely to happen:
1. Budget Defeated - not enough spending and too many tax cuts - NDP Point of view
2. Budget Defeated - too much spending and too many tax cuts - Liberal Point of view
Either way, Coalition leads to the NDP FINALLY getting the smallest taste of actual political power. Election could go either way.
3. Budget Passes - too much spending and too many tax cuts but Opposition will let the Govt take the blame for not "making" Canada's economy recover and then say "I told you so...."
Election results in another decade long Liberal dynasty until their arrogance causes their own demise.
Best thing for the Government is to let the Budget be defeated and then come back stronger than ever after the Liberals fail to make things any better using only minor variations of the same plan.
edd-medhat
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WesternCanadianSpeaks
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On a personal note: I hope the liberals let the harper conservative fall. I cannot stand them. They don't follow through with anything they promise and promise projects and never deliver.
Thats right im a western canadians "the westernist"
Shirlee - SK
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John in Calgary
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These projects are being made because people are losing jobs, a person who doesn't have a job and can't find a job should have no problem working for a lower wage then they did before. As these are "difficult" times and they are not the only ones that lost their job and need this money.
Perhaps society again as it has in the past will take a paycut so that their neighbour can keep their job?
Red X
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Harper called an early election, violated the fixed date rather then deal with a slowing economy.
Countries around the World have acted with "Stimulus packages" The 2 Lost months due to Prorogation so Harper could save conservative jobs has not improved our prospects. Really, in the last 5 months the house sat 12.5 days...Harper the Economist?! is introducing the budget Deficit NOT the coalition.
Cambob
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Um, how stupid are these Liberals anyway?
Matt
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Even simply paying off debt will help people feel better about their financial situation.
Viking) Kris Valgardson Gimli,Mb.
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Greg in the Hammer
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kate
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Jim-Surrey
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Will someone put a sock in the Liberals mouths!
Canada didn't want them so they will try to overthrow the Tories to get the power we Canadians didn't want them to have! We suffered through their rein before and don't want to go there again!
There is no political party in Canada that can fix this mess quickly, they must think the voters are idiots!
The GG needs to step in and make this work instead of all the childish political behavior we have been witnessing.
I hate to say it BUT the U.S. has a better political system and we need to look at that and change ours desperately!!!!!!!!!!
Roger T
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We need CHANGE quick before the economy sinks deeper under the current Gov't.
Red X
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The propose tax cut for the person would best be used to
1.pay down high interest debt
2.save in an RRSP of TFSA
3.consumer spending (which could include buying products made in foreign countries/HQ)
The Other Lowell in BC
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I think a few people are missing the boat on the liberals opposition to this. I don't think they are opposed to providing tax breaks to the middle class but are objecting to these tax cuts becoming permanent as opposed to temporary to provide stimulus to consumer spending. I think that to make them permanent would in effect hobble the current and future governments and also pepetuate deficit spending. Unfortunately, Harper chose to reduce the GST which now is badly needed revenue that could offset some of the proposed deficit spending. It was a decision that lacked both vision and clarity and only meant as a vote getter. A while back his advisor Tom Flanagan conjectured that Harper purposefully has reduced revenue to the government to force government institutions to downsize and in some cases to disappear. The laisez faire model which is little regulation and government intervention.
Jeff
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That was one of the biggest pitfalls what caused the great depression - the government raised taxes and people did not have the money to spend.
When times are tough, you give people money to spend. Times are good, you raise taxation. Economics 101
KDR
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And for those who site Gilles Duceppe as a possible leader of Canada please go have your head examined.
Kris D.
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Telling Canadians he will make it all better with even more tax cuts probably won't work on intelligent Canadians. They know that this will lead to permanent deficits.
So to those that want even more tax cuts:
Look, you've already saddled the next generation with over 400 billion in debt. Do you really think it's fair to add another 100 billion plus?
Stop being so greedy and irresponsible.
simon
said
We need a government of national unity until the next due date for elections.
This way there will not be any partisan politics.
BA in The 'Peg
said
However, these are the same clowns that were going to bring down the government because their tax-payer paid financing (which by their own comments means the majority of that money is from Middle Class tax payers) was going to be taken away.
Hmmmm.... sounds like the 'ol Liberal double standard to me....
Hey Liberals, vote down the budget, we'll have another election, and then watch out...
Chris in Ontariariari-Oh!
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Shirlee - SK
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Doug BC
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In recent years it has become acceptable for the opposition to do little or nothing beyond "opposing" the government.How sad for all of us.I remember the days that anyone who opposed any idea was required to give a reason for their opposition,and actually propose an alternative.And provide the costs of their own amendments.
Now,the ONLY reason the opposition even sits in the house,is that they are looking for a reason to defeat the government.
As "Matt" said,"let the yelling and shouting commence".I still have nightmares with visions or Ralph Goodale,on his feet,his fist shaking as he screams out "the neo-cons are coming,the neo-cons are coming.Hide your women and children".
Frankly,it's a miracle Canada is still standing.If this country is ever really successful,it will be in spite of our Parliament rather than because of it's "work".
And that doesn't even go near that joke,and afront to democracy that we call a Senate.If we can't FIX IT,we must ABOLISH IT!!
John in Toronto
said
Well if the liberals are not happy with the budget, they should propose amendments. The conservatives are claiming that they never received input to the budget from the liberals but I don't buy that. Again it is just this game playing that Harper is so happy to indulge in.
I agree with this. But make no mistakes in doing so, and I would like to see the party donations clause put back to the old way instead of the $1.95 so that I,as a private citizen, can support the party of my choice anyway I see fit. If the Conservatives don't like this proposal, then they can defeat their own budget for political reasons like they SAY the coalition tried to do.If the Conservatives feel so strongly about their budget, this small concession shouldn't bother them at all, should it. We'll see then who has the betterment of the country foremost in their plans or who wants to destroy AA politcal parties instead so there is no compitition
Gary Thunder
said
I really do feel sorry for the GG having to read aloud Harpers lies. It cheapens her reputation and heightens suspicions she is being manipulated by Harper.
What happened to the confidence vote that was scheduled in December on the Economic statement?
Matt
said
Any budget without major spending cuts will be a deficit budget, if you're going to have one, you might as well make it a big one.
The conservatives have constructed a budget with big money for everyone, social housing, tax cuts, infrastructure, green policies.
This is not a conservative budget, and not what I voted for.
This is simply ammunition to attack the opposition in the election if the budget fails.
David
said
They must be counting on a coalition getting the governor generals approval or they wouldn't be making such stupid threats.
A middle class tax cut equals 'no new Liberal social programs'. They know that. They have lots of pet projects that will need funding. We need a lot less dependence on government and a whole lot more initiative from individuals. Bring on the tax cut.
Steve in Fredericton
said
The Liberals will support it because neither a coalition nor an election are in the Liberal interest at this time.
The NDP will vote against it because Jack Layton has no regard for the Canadian people.
The Bloc will reject it because there's not enough for Quebec (and they secretly desire a coalition as their only hope to have political impact in this country).
End-state: More of the same BS from an elected body that only acts in the interest of their political party and does not represent the population. Our budget and our whole political system is being held hostage by narrow-minded, over-indulgent political parties.
The Other Lowell in BC
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How can you say Ignatieff is more power hungry than Harper. You must have missed Harper's tactics to discredit the opposition at every move last year. Remember all those attack ads against DION even when there was no election being called. Right now I trust Iggy a whole lot more than I do Harper. Harper simply has no class and will do anything to keep his job. He has done about faces on pretty much everything that he has promised or purports to believe in. The opposition are right that he can't be trusted to do what he says he is going to do.
Lane
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Carmen
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Cassidy Kanata
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Don
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No win senario for The Conservatives
dwayne-ottawa
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Franky
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Diane from Northern Ontario
said
I hope the budget goes through without the children throwing a temper tantrum.
Kat
said
We gave Harper a stronger minority government and I'm willing to bet that the majority of those who voted conservative did so because of the economy.
I don't think the majority of Canadians want a deficit but the opposition do, so they formed a coalition and tried to overthrow our government.
Harper is set to announce a budget full of deficit spending to appease the coalition and still they are not happy...could it really be that they formed the coalition because of fear of losing their $1.75/vote?
Well, should they not support the government's massive spending bill, then we will know won't we.
Either way, the coalition is a joke, Harper caved to their demands and is willing to put my grandchildren (not born yet) into debt.
Fire. Them. All.
Vero Montreal: Harper-Obama balanced approach
said
The Liberals just like McCain are opposed to them.
I like Harper's Balanced approached.
EDcp
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JM
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Alan
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Michael from Kamloops
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The government is going to spend over 100b on help the economy, I think this would be a good way to spend that money.
James
said
Instead let's spend $$$ on infastructure that will create jobs which helps economy but construction companies(most of them) are thieves and will 'butter' the costs tax payers will be paying plus finds ways to make the work needing repair in 20 years to keep them busy.
What happens to the people hired for infastructure work in 5-10 years when it is all complleted? How will our unemployment look then?
Only infastructure we should spend is preping for aging baby boomers and schools(the buildings itself not a dime for the teachers)
Earl Robert (Kiss)
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bev
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New leader needed !
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We need a new leader in Canada, one who puts Canada first ahead of their own interests. These other guys are just playing games and not serious about our country.
Where will we find such a leader? we badly need to fix our broken political system and the RCMP who are their puppets to hide the corruption and incompetence.
Cathy
said
Those who make suggestions are critcized by critics who have yet to make a single good suggestion.
Some of the best suggestions worth considering have been what I have read on this site posted by average people.
A note to Mr. Harper...it is impossible to satisfy everyone 100% no matter how much or how hard you try.
Cody in Fredericton
said
The proposed tax-cuts sound good, obviously; but tax cuts are not the best way to stimulate the economy during a recession. This is why the Liberals say they cannot support the budget if it does contain these new tax cuts. We will be entering into a $64 Billion deficit. That sounds like a lot, and it is but it is nothing we can't get out of. But these permanent tax cuts will result in a permanent deficit. Do we want to burden our future generations with this? Are more tax cuts worth the consequences?
I can't wait to hear the budget tomorrow; it will be interesting to see if Harper is ready to give up the game playing.
NT
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Cheryl from Ontario
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Ian the Middle Class Citizen in Ottawa
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scott sw ontario
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Dan
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Duceppeissmart
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The Conservatives are running scared and have brought out the fear mongering to stay in power.... not suprised
Evan
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Victor
said
The hate continues to drive this circus on display on television and in the media. It looks like the ruling government and the opposition parties are continuing to put their own interests ahead of those of Canadians.
The Rhino Party needs to make a comeback.
Al
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Frunk
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Dan from Northern Ont
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Matt
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The Other Lowell in BC
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Roland Godin
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