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Sub.-Lt. Jeffrey Paul Delisle is escorted from provincial court in Halifax on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2012. Russian Ambassador to Canada Georgiy Mamedov gestures during a briefing in Ottawa, Monday March 30, 2009. (Fred Chartrand / THE CANADIAN PRESS) The exterior of the Russian Embassy is shown in Ottawa.

Moscow spy case details may never be known

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CTV Ottawa's bureau chief explains how he has learned that Moscow has a secret deal with Ottawa to keep quiet about its role in the Jeffery Delisle case.
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Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife has the exclusive details alleging Moscow has a deal with Ottawa to keep quiet about its role in the case of a naval intelligence officer charged with selling secrets to Russia.

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Sub.-Lt. Jeffrey Paul Delisle is escorted from provincial court in Halifax on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2012. Russian Ambassador to Canada Georgiy Mamedov gestures during a briefing in Ottawa, Monday March 30, 2009. (Fred Chartrand / THE CANADIAN PRESS) The exterior of the Russian Embassy is shown in Ottawa.

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Date: Fri. Feb. 10 2012 8:17 AM ET

In a frank exchange with CTV, the Russian ambassador to Canada said we may never know the details of a spy operation his country is accused of participating in in Canada, since he has made a deal with Ottawa to keep quiet about the case.

CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife reported the story on Thursday after attending a cocktail reception at the Russian embassy and chatting candidly with the ambassador.

Sub-Lt. Jeffrey Delisle, a naval intelligence officer, is in custody on charges of passing secret military information to a foreign entity. CTV has reported Delisle passed on secrets to the Russians and Canada retaliated by expelling several Russian diplomats.

Russian Ambassador Georgiy Mamedov told Fife he couldn't speak about the case, but then continued talking.

"I said tell me more, and he said 'I can't tell you more because we have a deal with the Canadian government to keep everything confidential perhaps until this court case is over,'" Fife told CTV's Canada AM.

Fife then asked Mamedov about Delisle, and whether he was a spy working for the embassy.

"He said 'I don't know that because I'm not in charge of human intelligence at the embassy.' In other words the spy operators who work out of the embassy don't necessarily work for him."

Mamedov went on to tell Fife it is important for Moscow to have "good relations" with Canada and suggested the story is being kept quiet in order to preserve that relationship.

Asked directly if Delisle was spying for the Russians, Mamedov said: "I don't know because I am not the guy who controls Humint (human intelligence). But I can tell you what you said about some people in my embassy are dead wrong."

CTV reported that six Russian diplomats have left Canada since Delisle was arrested in mid-January, including two military attachés. Sources say some of those diplomats were asked to leave as a result of the spy scandal.

Mamedov declined to say which of the six Russians were asked to leave by the Canadian government.

"I am not at liberty to discuss because I don't want to influence your judicial process," he said.

Mamedov also said it is possible Russia's role in the Delisle spying case will never be known.

"It will depend on the entire interests of our bilateral relations because you are interested in good relations with the Russians . . . so I am working for you as much as for my taxpayers."

The ambassador, who has been in Canada since 2004, would not say if Moscow asked any Canadian diplomats to leave.

Insiders say Canada is downplaying Russia's involvement in the spy affair to avoid tit-for-tat expulsions of Canadian diplomats in Moscow.

According to court documents, investigators allege that between July 6, 2007 and Jan. 13, 2011, Delisle committed a breach of trust and communicated to "a foreign entity information that the Government of Canada is taking measures to safeguard."

The Russians allegedly recruited Delisle while he was working as a naval intelligence officer in Ottawa. He ended up in Halifax where sources say he handled highly sensitive information.

Exactly what secrets Delisle allegedly passed on to the Russians is not known.

Military attache Colonel Sergey Zhukov, deputy military attache Lt.-Col Dimitry Fedeorchatenko; diplomats Konstantin Kolpakov and Dimitry Gerasimov; and technical staffers Mikhail Nikiforov and Tatiana Steklova were removed from the Foreign Affairs list of Russian diplomats over the past month.

With a report from CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife

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NoContest
said

Sneaky Russians....


Bubba: Do what the yanks do, buy us???
said

Moscow agents must be the dumbest lug nuts on the car. One wonders their masters don't do what the Yankees do???? Yup, just buy the business, and you not only have the secrets, but the facility and employees to make them into a product.


Bob W.
said

And why should they be released, they're called "secrets" for a reason (though it boggles the mind as to why this traitor couldn't keep one!). There are some "secrets" that the public just shouldn't know.


J.C.
said

Of course they will not say anything. They certainly would not admit to spying in Canada. I don't really see what Robert Fife was hoping to get from the ambassador. Nor do I see anything significant of what he claims was revealed to him. What did he reveal? That the two governments are to remain quiet on this? What's the surprise here? Neither side in the interests of diplomacy would want everything to be out in the open especially not until a criminal trial has been completed as released info could effect the outcome of the trial.


Brandon
said

Steve let's keep this on a professional, unbiased level here, a Liberal or NDP administration would do the same. Simple politics bud.


Stu
said

We won't know any thing about what happens with this government until they've been given the boot. I just hope we can get rid of them before they bankrupt Canada.


Paul
said

It's a clandestine world. People today seem to think a secret is something you only tell one person at a time, tradecraft professionals know a secret is something you never tell anyone, until they first pay you a large sum of money ;)


steve
said

the cons are sleeping with the enemy now. between their antics involving china and russia as of late our government surely can be trusted. they sure have canadians best interest in mind. new world order i guess.


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