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Date: Tue. Jul. 7 2009 8:37 PM ET
The bodies of two Canadian soldiers were loaded on a plane Tuesday at Kandahar Airfield during a sombre ramp ceremony.
Hundreds of soldiers stood solemnly as their comrades' remains were loaded aboard a military transport plane, for the journey home.
The soldiers died when their Griffon helicopter crashed shortly after takeoff on Monday. They were identified as Master Cpl. Pat Audet, 38, and Cpl. Martin Joannette, 25. Both were based in Valcartier, Que.
A British soldier was also killed in the crash, while three other Canadian troops were injured.
"It's painful to realize how precious and fragile human life is," Padre Martine Belanger said during the ceremony.
"We are dismayed; we cry for our loss. With courage, we say goodbye."
Audet served with the 430 Tactical Helicopter Squadron. He is survived by his wife Katherine, and his parents.
"Master Cpl. Audet -- Pat to his friends and family -- was a man with a contagious sense of humour, and had a great way with people," Belanger said.
"A big man with an imposing stature, he wouldn't have hurt a fly."
Joannette served with the 3e Bataillon, Royal 22e Regiment. He is survived by his wife, Marie-Eve.
"Cpl. Joannette was a guy with a heart of gold," Belanger said.
"He had an immense generosity and an exceptional team spirit; he had an ability to raise the morale of his comrades."
Defence Minister Peter MacKay issued a statement Tuesday in which he paid tribute to the two soldiers and offered his condolences to their families.
"These courageous servicemen gave their lives to secure a brighter future for Afghan families and protect the values of freedom, democracy, respect for human rights and the rule of law," MacKay said. "Canada's collaboration and determination to contribute to this UN-sanctioned, NATO-led mission will not waiver."
The two soldiers' commanding officer, Lt. Col. Marc Bigaouette, said Canadians should be proud of them.
"It is with sadness today that we all get together and we bring them their last flight -- that's going to be their flight home," Bigaouette said.
"They can leave Afghanistan with their head up."
Crash under investigation
While a Taliban spokesperson claimed Tuesday that insurgents had shot down the helicopter, Canadian military officials disputed this, saying the soldiers' deaths were not the result of enemy fire.
Colin Perkel, a reporter with the Canadian Press, said enemy action has been ruled out, leaving two main possible causes for the crash that caused their deaths.
"Canadian military authorities are telling us that this was not the result of enemy fire or enemy activity, so that basically leaves open the possibility that it was either human error or mechanical failure -- at this point we don't know," Perkel told CTV's Canada AM from Kandahar.
Military officials say the helicopter crashed at a U.S. forward operating base northeast of Kandahar where the bulk of Canadian troops are based.
"What we know is this crash happened yesterday at the forward operating base near Zabul, that's about 80 kilometres northeast of Kandahar. It's an American base, and the chopper was apparently taking off when it crashed," Perkel said.
A flight-safety investigation is underway to determine the cause of the crash, said Canadian commander Brig.-Gen. Jonathan Vance.
Griffon helicopters are used mainly to transport troops, and are part of the Canadian Helicopter Force Afghanistan. They have been used by the Canadian military since the start of this year.
The majority of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan have died from improvised explosive devices, buried along Kandahar's dangerous roads. Because of that, helicopters are considered a much safer method of transportation.
"With the arrival of the Griffon and Chinook helicopters in our area of operations, (Audet and Joannette) played a valuable role in reducing exposures to IEDs, and by providing aviation support to combat operations," said Vance.
In total, 124 Canadians have now died since the Afghanistan mission began in 2001. On Saturday, a ramp ceremony was held for Cpl. Nick Bulger, who the day before was killed by an IED.
On Monday, soldiers gathered in tribute to Master Cpl. Charles-Philippe Michaud, who died in Quebec City on Saturday of injuries he sustained last month when he stepped on a land mine.
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stop reading the headlines olny or making stuff up
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An FE for Life....DN078
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JR
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My thumb is down to the News Media for makilng the MJ Memorial, etc the Lead story on the news. Our Soldier are the ones who are really doing something for World Peace..put the importance where it should be.
Georgina, Yellowknife NT
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CF Member
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just one remark to those who view this mission with discontent. All i have to say is as a member preparing to go over seas, i would have to say we as soldiers are far more informed about this conflict then the vast majority of canadians, and i don't think it is because we are told much more about what is goin on then the rest of canadians, i think it is simply a desire to know.
At this moment there are probably thousands of canadians surfing the net looking for stories about MJ's funeral then care to maybe learn something about a conflict in which 124 of there brave countrymen have died (which CTV tells us after every story they print). Because as soldiers we desire to know, we seek information from a vast variety of sources, which i'm sorry to say doesn't include the large canadian media giants. And its because of this informative perspective i think soldiers believe in the mission in afghanistan and are willing to put there lives on the line.
Im so sick and tired of reading these ignorant comments of people who have no idea and don't care to find out for themselves. Although i guess people who are fed ignorance tend to be ignorant.
Have some respect folks.
Jim
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Here's the numbers from before and after the Griffons arrived in Afghanistan:
2008 01 01 - 2008 07 07
11 KIA
2009 01 01 - present
18 KIA
bren
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Mac
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... along with the many before them over the years...
their work is the music in our lives because they are making my life and those around the world a better place ...
our thoughts and prayers go the the families left behind.
Jacky Tar
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To those who are whining about how Afghanistan's a hole, and when we leave things will go back to the way they were, women denied education, etc. - well, that's why we're there; to effect a change, to stand up for their rights, and try help them help themselves. Pulling out won't accomplish that. So if you want conditions for the average Afghan to improve, including rights and education for Afghan women, support the mission. Or else sit down and shut up. Support requires more than a yellow ribbon on your SUV.
"Ready Aye Ready"
19 years in.
Capt Usher
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TDT
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Jacky Tar
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"If it's not the enemy killing our soldiers, it's our own crappy equipment. Sad and avoidable. "
Then write to your MP, the PM, the defense minister and tell them you want to see the CF's budget increased so they can buy new gear. Talk is cheap.
Sick of the Whining
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military brat
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Mitch Lauzon
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Mitch in Frankford, Ontario
Richard L. Provencher
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Amanda
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What does anything that you have posted have to do with these two soldiers dying? Are you so selfish that you think we should put ourselves before the rest of the world? Learn to read. We aren't following the policy of the United State. In fact US soldiers are coming in AFTER us to give us some much needed relief.
If it weren't for soldiers being soldiers we would not have the freedom we so gladly enjoy. Also, if it weren't for our soldiers, the people in places like Afghanistan may never know what it feels like to be free. They aren't over there for what they "have got or will get" out of it. If you are so concerned for the well-being of our country, get off of your computer and try actually doing something about it.
Pip
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To those who would use a forum such as this for political ends: write your MP instead. If you want to make a difference, though, find some way to serve this nation istead of your own vanity.
To those who have never "seen the elephant": on behalf of those who have and in memory of those who gave all, you must like Siegfried Sassoon ". . . Swear by the slain of the war that you'll never forget."
Robert Grimes
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God bless the families, friends and comrads of these brave soldiers.
Thank you all who are currently serving in harms way.
To those of you who disagree with the mission, take it up with your politicians and be thankful for it is by the past services of men and women like these that you have the freedom to express your oppinion.
RBG Fergus, Ontario,
Retired Soldier in Kingston, ON
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To the Officers, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen/women serving in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf:
In comparison to the garden-variety Canadian critics and "arm-chair generals" inhabiting this blog, you are all ""giants"" walking among mere lilliputians!
Be Proud, be Strong, be Brave!! ...Pro Patria!
Cathy H. B.C.
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When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
franky
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As the Poem "Monsters in the Dark" written by a fallen soldier so succinctly puts it.
Thank you all, Condolences to family, friends and Comrades, We will never forget.
George Garner: the Armchair Visionary
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I think that says why we ARE there. The country will revert no doubt, but the effects will be felt here, in Canada if we do. I feel very honored to work along side MCpl Pat Audet doing the same job as him for the same purpose: So our kids won't have to at home. Think about that George before you disrespect every service person in the Armed Forces when you say "we are wasting our lives". RIP Pat, Martin you did us proud and the honor is ours.
MAL of TO
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Earl McLean Amherstview on.ca.
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Pat we will look for your bubbles when we dive !
Doug BC
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A special thanks for the post by "Anonymous Captain from Gagetown,NB".When one of our own falls in the line of duty,it's difficult to remember the reason for the mission.And it's certainly not easy for anyone in a position of authority,to always be sure he/she is not asking to much of those who volunteered to serve on our behalf.
Sadly,I am the first male in many generations of my family that didn't serve in Canada's military.Cutbacks and downsizing interrupted my plans to do so.But I can assure everyone who is open mined enough to listen,that my late father never once regretted serving in Europe during WWII.Taking part in the liberation of the Netherlands was one of his proudest achievements.To many people who post very negative comments about our military,albeit with their safety in mind,simply do not understand that there are men and women who truly believe that there are some things worth fighting for.I am eternally grateful for all of them,and for what they have frely given to this country.
I would urge ALL Canadians to support the recently announced idea that the children of fallen soldiers be entitled to educations in the Canadian university of their choice.In fact,I would apply that to all the children of those who served us so well,and selflessly.
God bless each and every one of you.Words alone cannot express the pride,the respect,and the love this entire family feels for every member who serves.
PRO PATRIA !
Anne
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The rest of you complainers.
Too bad you could not be as brave as our troops, Stand up and SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. and quit whinning about it.
God Bless all of our troops and from most of us THANK YOU
proud to serve
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We are a resilient force though, we take what we have and do the best with it. Griffons are a good aircraft, not the best, but quite capable non the less. Accidents and errors happen with aircraft, and they have very unfortunate results when they do.
To those that say this is a waste of time being there, most of us volunteer to go over and help the afghany people build a better life for themselves. It's what we in uniform do, and are very proud to do it.
Someone above said support for war or soldiers is vastly different, and it is. All we ask is your support of us as we put ourselves in harms way to make life better for other persons of the human race. We are lucky here, I think they deserve a little of that luck as well.
21 years served, many more to go.
Jeffery
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Michael and Danita Curwin
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SharonH
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RIP Shrek!
philoldgoalie
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Adam in Ottawa
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Canada's mil spending cut with end of Cold War.
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Equipment is not the problem.
War is the problem.
R NS
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We are trying to make the light Griffon do the work of an Apache Gunship, this is what the other Countries use as a overwatch for troop transports....Our Boys are Brave, and ingenious, but if we don't equip them properly, don't send them into harm's way.
Prayers to the Families and Friends, all Canadians are at your side today.
GHW
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I used to think that this war was big mistake because I couldn’t see any possible positive outcome. This was mostly because Bush, Cheney and the self-serving neo-con republicans were running it. People like Cheney are self-righteous; they see the world in black and white, my way or the highway. Now that the US has an intelligent peace loving statesman with a good vision for the world there is a chance this war could be turned into something positive. Let’s see this thing through and see where it leads us. Keep up the great work troops, we love you.
BESS
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B.C. Observer
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Jennifer from Toronto
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The very least we can do is support our troops and acknowledge their bravery in risking their lives to make Afghanistan a safer place. They are making a difference, let's not take that away from them.
My heart felt wishes go out to the families who have lost loved ones. Time does heal most of the wounds.
Golf Company Grunt
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skunk
If it's not the enemy killing our soldiers, it's our own crappy equipment. Sad and avoidable.<<<
And you know this because you spent how many years in the military?
'Pro Patria'
JJF
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This conflict in Afganistan is doing nothing to keep us 'safer' here in Canada. There is no reason to be there. What an unbelievable waste of resources, contributing to death and suffering.
My condolences for these young men who have died, but this conflict is not noble.
Jerry M.
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CraigW
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Bob Fenton Caledonia
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Navy Bob
Engineer
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Tony
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The Griffon is a reliable airframe and is one I would trust my life on. Although it is limited in most roles in Afghanistan it is still an airframe that can continue to do the job well. It is not ideal but we as a CF community adapt and overcome.
Per Ardua Ad Astra
Paul from Saskatoon
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By disparaging the mission on these pages, at this time, you besmirch the memory of these two brave men because you attack by your words their very deeds as their deeds are the mission. Sadly, you represent perfectly though, the utter selfishness of many in our society, a society that is the most decadent in human history. It is these rough and ready men who toil to turn a lost land into something truly civilized that stand between barbarism and your luxuries and excess. The least you could do is remember them here without your self-interested whining spoiling the tributes.
Proud Canadian
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Thank you to our men and women lost, we will always remember you.
Pro Patria
Chris in Kingston
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Rest in peace, troops!
marlene-Peterborough ont
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Kevin
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Sarah Paige
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31 Years in Uniform
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Thankfully those who pay their respects along the Highway of Heroes have their priorities in the right order.
Nice to know that when I head over for my 3rd tour next year, CTV and other media outlets will ensure that Cdns are fully informed on the most trivial of events.
CDN Commoner
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I've been very adamant in supporting this war, however looking back here in what's happening to Canada, I'd say we pull our troops out of Afghanistan. Our government isn't doing enough to combat terrorism at home. We are being flooded with people who are immigrating into Canada, however are not adjusting to our way of living. If this current government keeps it up, women will be wearing Burqa's.
My two cents for the day.
dano
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Mark
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but can say that he was a great guy. He worked as storesman on my dismounted platoon commander's course. On night 1 of the course, he and his buddies pretended to be officers took us out running in the middle of the night. We thought that was just the begining of the our night so we slept the remainder of the night on top of our sheets in my PT gear and sneakers. The staff found out about this and tried to get us to sell them out. We respected their nerve and thought that it was pretty funny so we never. There was little sleep or food on that course but Joannette who was responsible for resupplying us with Ammo after our attacks, always gave us extra "ammo" cans which turned out to be Granola Bars etc. He was a really nice guy. To the families, I am really sorry for your loss, I am sure that all lost were great Canadians and men. God Speed. Pro Patria
George Garner
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Anonymous Captain from Gagetown, NB
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I would just like to reply to a few comments above mine, most notably that Canada is following US policy: I don't think we are following anybody, but we are doing our contribution to making the world a better place. THAT is the Canadian way.
Canadians are and have always been the worlds greatest peacekeepers, with 1% of the worlds population providing over 10% of it's peacekeeping forces.
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
We are those good men. Security at home starts with security abroad.
Pro patria.
Pierre
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skunk
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LAC
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Jeffery
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Soldier Back Home
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Cpl in Ottawa
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Darryl - Ottawa
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To the families of both men, I am so sorry for your loss, you have my prayers and condolences.
To their fellow soldiers, don't let their loss and those before them, deter you in your mission, but let it provide you with the strength and resolve to soldier on!
Per Ardua Ad Astra
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Je me souviens
Samantha McLean
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