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Tax cuts could lead to a deficit in 2008: report

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Date: Mon. Jan. 14 2008 2:54 PM ET

Recently announced tax cuts could end a decade-long streak of federal surpluses if even a slight economic downturn materializes in 2008, a new report suggests.

A study released by the left-leaning Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives on Monday says the government's October economic update does not take into account the possibility that Canada's economy will slow down.

The recent cut to the GST, in addition to reductions previously announced by the Conservative government, will cost $40.2 billion annually by the end of the 2012-2013 fiscal year, the report said.

Those reductions have "greatly eroded the fiscal capacity of the federal government," the report said.

"It turns out a mild recession -- not even a recession -- just a mild economic downturn would actually lead to the first budget deficit in over a decade," Marc Lee, the economist who authored the paper, told CTV Newsnet on Monday.

In his economic statement, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty compared the Canadian economy to the bright "North Star" and announced the GST reduction to five per cent.

"Since those tax cuts were tabled back in October, we're starting to see some signs of deterioration, particularly in the United States economy," Lee said, adding that there was a greater than 50 per cent chance the U.S. would go into recession in 2008.

While the Canadian economy has remained buoyant despite the faltering U.S., many see a downturn as inevitable.

How far Canada's economy declines could depend on how the United States' slump changes the demand for lumber, machinery and petrochemicals imported from Canada.

Economic slowdown

Lee's paper "stress tests" government numbers by using four scenarios of future slowdown, from moderate slowdown to strong recession.

Most surprisingly, it found it would take much less than a recession -- two consecutive quarters of economic reduction -- to result in a budgetary deficit.

Lee said despite the conventional wisdom held by Ottawa, the government should not slash spending in an attempt to avoid a deficit.

He said the government can and should run a deficit if the economy turns down.

"The biggest danger is that the feds will respond by cutting spending in order to maintain the budget balance, a move that would only worsen the downturn," Lee said in a press release.

He told Newsnet that tax cuts wouldn't deliver "the bang for the buck" that other options could.

"You might want to divert some of the tax cuts into things like bolstering unemployment insurance, targeting transfers to low- and middle-income people -- basically transferring money to people who are going to spend all of that money," he said.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Flaherty have suggested there will not be any new tax cuts or spending programs announced in future budgets because of the expected slowdown in the Canadian economy.

Recent federal estimates suggest Canada's gross domestic product (GDP) will grow just over two per cent this year, down from original estimates of 2.4 per cent.

However, some economists think even a two per cent estimate is optimistic and suggest closer to 1.4 per cent, or less.

In the 2006-2007 fiscal year, Canada generated a surplus of nearly $14 billion, based on strongly rising corporate and personal tax revenues.

The Finance Ministry has projected this fiscal year will result in a small surplus of $3.3 billion.

A deficit could be embarrassing for the Conservative government, which has sought to appear more economically mindful that the Jean Chretien-Paul Martin Liberal leadership before them. That government ended decades of massive budget deficits in the mid-1990s.

Lee, however, says the government's fiscal position would remain strong compared to the past. He said Canada's debt to gross domestic product ratio has plummeted from 68 per cent a decade ago to 32 per cent.

"With an election potentially on the horizon, all federal parties should be clear to the public about what their plans would be with regard to taxation, spending and deficits," said Lee.

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michael
said

It is with regret that I read how ill informed many of my fellow Canadians are. The article points out a risk of deficit. The key word is risk - nothing has actually happened yet. Part of being a leader is taking risks and responding to problems. Let's give the Conservatives a chance - so far they have made good on their other promises!


BradM-NL
said

It should also be pointed out that the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives is considered a LEFT-WING organization, i.e. they have views similar to those of the NDP or possibly the Liberals.

David F.
said

Imagine the wave of indignation from Toronto if Harper had raised the GST when the economy was slowing! Canada waited 10 years for Chretien to abolish the GST and it never happened so why should Harper feel badly about doing what he said he was going to do? Where were all you guys in 1990 when Mulroney could have used the support for the GST?


Iami Iamme
said

You know what else leads to deficit? Following in the footsteps of the US, and posting “Troops” all over the world, and then supporting them in a combat role. Has anybody read recently, where it’s costing US tax payers about 500 Billion a year for their government’s Homeland Security/Anti-Terror marketing campaign.
This is done with “money created out of thin air,” the government treasuries print this “fiat” paper money up as they need it. Income Taxes are merely a means of getting a lot of this useless money off the streets. The only thing that Income Taxes go toward is paying the World Bankers, IMF, Central Bankers and the Bilderbergs. Google any of those key words to “learn” more. Stop being SHEEPLE, people!



Lynn
said

Well, had the conservative gov't gone ahead with the daycare subsidy program that Paul Martin was trying to bring into play, then there would be more people out there working instead of on welfare. As a person that has been there, done that I can say that we need the subsidy daycare spaces, not the $100.00 per child under 6 no matter your income. $100.00 a month towards daycare expenses is a slap in the face and a kick in the gut. I believe that we can have our cake and eat it too with these tax cuts but we need to get these people costing us billions of $$ a year off the system and out working. More people working = more tax money and less "social" spending.


gary
said

What about the billions of dollars now surplus in the EI program. Years ago Paul Martin changed the eligibility rules which resulted in huge annual surpluses. Could not these be used for any deficit?


Joel
said

I cannot believe how stupid people are to believe this is some kind of problem. We have more of our own money staying in our pocket. Things cost less every time we spend money due to the GST cut. The conservatives have eliminated cash grab policies implemented by the liberals and brought things in line. Finally a government that is trying to keep a bit of money in peoples pockets where it belongs. The country will do just fine even if things slow a little.


ScottS
said

From all the comments I've read on here it seems pretty clear that Liberals want to raise taxes. I certainly hope all you tax lovers in the Liberal party will be making that part of your next election platform. "Vote Liberal and vote to Raise Taxes across the board!"


GP
said

A report from a group, with an agenda, that has a terrible track record for predicting economic outcomes. If this gloomy economic forecast does come true, simple, cut back on the huge increases of Federal spending that has happened over the last two years.


Eric E
said

Some Canadians have become so indoctrinated by socialistic propaganda that they believe the government deserves our earnings more than we do. If you were to charge a customer far more than the value of the product or service -especially for 13 years running, you would likely end up being charged. It happens when contractors to the federal government overcharge them.
Why then are people upset when Harper reduces the price to match the actual cost of the service?
As for some forecast someone publishes... how many are truly valid?



John from Ontario
said

Everyone on here needs to relax and stop reading into articles based on assumptions! Before everyone starts to aim guns at each other, can someone tell me the last time an economic forecast was correct? Like seriously CANADA get a grip! Wait and see what happens first!


PDC
said

The Centre for Policy Alternatives is a left wing organization whose "studies" are nothing more than self-fulfilling prophecies.

Shannon
said

The hypocrisy of economists and average Canadians is astounding. It wasn't very long ago that they were all complaining about the large surplus and how the government could not do their job because of it. They called for tax cuts, because we were being overtaxed and the government did not need all the revenues.

So, now we have the tax cuts and the same people are complaining once again that the government is incompetant.

You can't have a surplus, but no surplus. What do you want people? Its no wonder the government (regardless of the party) finds it impossible to make inroads in popular opinion. The popular opinion is to ALWAYS complain, regardless of the policy.


Andrew
said

We live in a free-market economy, the fiscal management tactics shown by the conservative government have very little to do with the performance of the economy. While their generous tax cuts are a little irresponsible, I'm sure the teams of highly trainned analysts did their homework before approving such measures. Keep in mind that throughout Canada's political history the Liberals have had the most time in office and account for the majority of Canada's half trillion dollar debt. You want fiscal irresponsibility look to your friends the Liberals.


Joe
said

It's a misnomer that the Conservatives are more fiscally responsible than the other parties.
Brian Mulroney, someone close to this particular Conservative party, was horrible at managing the economy. He implemented the GST to start with because of his inability to balance the budget.

Here in Ontario, Mike Harris slashed taxes just as the Conservative government is now doing. To pay for these tax cuts he also slashed, as someone earlier so eloquently put it, "meaningless social programs".

The result of these cuts were incidents like the Walkerton debacle. By cutting the number of inspectors, the problems with the water treatment facility went unnoticed. The result is now history.



Stephen from Ontario
said

The only reason Canada has current surplus is because the Liberals raised taxes through the roof and cut transfer payments to the Provinces in the 1990s.

Now Provinces like Ontario and Quebec have massive debt problems thanks to the Liberals.

A few spending cuts by Ottawa and the provinces would be a good thing.

Lets start by cutting the tax payer funded grant given to the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.




Paul
said

All Cons and Cons alike took full credit for the surplus in the 18 months while they came into dicatatorship.

They will only lay blame again as all they can do ... this is NOT their fault.

Look at Federal History on the Conservatives. These current neocons are only going to follow history.

And, to boot, the CON in the Finance Office will leave his history on a Federal level now.

The "Cracked Sense" Harris/Eves revolution of the 90's that injurred Ontario is about to injur Canada.

Who will the CONS blame now?? LOL


Bruce
said

Some of you liberal minded people have short memories. Our deficit problems began with Trudeau, who spent our tax dollars like a kid in a candy store. True the problem wasn't fixed with Mulroney but the only way Martin got the federal deficit in order was to download a lot of federal responsibities to the provinces without any financial assistance, basically passing the buck without the buck.I don't see a drop in federal surpluses bad economics but a government that isn't overtaxing as the Liberals did for those 13 years you all talk about. Thank God they're over.Good riddance.


Victor
said

I feel that if a market does turn downward and slows that a tax cut is just what we need for a soft landing.

We can always adjust the taxes upward again as the market gets hot again in coming years.




Dave
said

We can avoid deficit and cut taxes even more if we stop handing out money. No handouts to business, no open ended support programs. I hope taxes are cut further so we won't be saddled with boondoggles like a national day care policy or other wasted money. People need to learn to look after themselves and stop relying on government.


Stephen B
said

The Liberals only balanced the budget by gutting the Canadian Armed Forces and cutting payments to the Provinces.

Hardly what any would call good management.

The time has come to put an end to big government in Canada.

Time to cut, cut, cut……………..



Po
said

See you Conservative lovers... didn't even take your precious Harper/Flaherty team 2 years in a minority government to mess up our previously great economy.

GST cut? Who cares! This is going to cost 40.2 Billion yearly for 4-5 years, that's more than our biggest surplus!

Now, allow me to reiterate what I said during the last federal elections... All those who vote in a government simply on the promise of a tax cut are fools!


Daniel Jones
said

I find it funny how people criticize Harper for cutting the GST when what he is doing is KEEPING HIS PROMISES that got him elected. I guess this is a new concept for Liberals to digest.

As far as running a deficit, you can't blame the Conservatives for being in power when the whole world starts heading for an economic slowdown. Get a grip. Besides, if a bunch of the useless and expensive Liberal created social programs get the axe in the next budget it won't be much of a defecit anyway. I agree completely with Mike - go lean and mean.


Chris
said

I love how most of the comments here are calling the Conservatives "fiscally irresponsible" based on an assumption that MAY or MAY NOT happen in the future. Are they not expecting to still run a surplus in the next budget? So it's not as big as the last surplus..but it's still a surplus.

Man..I love the partisan comments in here!


31 Delta
said

Most of Canada's Debt is due mostly to PM Trudeau's era and sure Mr. Mulroney hasn't helped. But has anyone noticed lately that the "R" word meaning recession is possible this year and maybe next. There a few social programs that should see the axe but I doubt it with a minority government in power at the moment. Don't forget, Mr. Harper is very well versed as an economist and so is Mr. Flaherty and by cutting the GST and other taxes they were only softening what could be a rough landing for our economy.


RT
said

Wasn't it the Trudeau Liberals that originally started the debt train rolling? Chretian and his cretans gouged many gov't departments to get their surplus and just before he left office Martin started overstuffing the public service again. Government should be able to fund itself without overtaxing its populance. Cut taxes!!!!


Deathsdoorstep
said

I'm not going to push the panic button because the CCPA yet again dislikes the Conservatives. Canada is expected to have a slower rate of growth, but even 2% growth is hardly a reason to go grey. The fact that the Conservatives cut taxes will mitigate any economic slowdown by ensuring that consumer spending doesn't fall off too much. Both federal parties have done a fairly good job with the economy.


Eric
said

I would like to point out to Mr. Lee and the others posted here that a huge surplus is not a sign of good financial stewardship. A balanced budget is, this meaning the government didn't take any more than it needed. This is unlike the policies of the Martin/Chretien era when the purposly underestimated the size of the surplus so that they could hand election goodies to Quebec and the Atlantic provinces. Anyone who thinks that the liberals were better at protecting public coffers is seriously out of touch. ie: Sponsoship sccandal, gun registry boondogle, ...


Paul
said

It continues to amaze me how government dependent people have become. Maybe every time the government spends more than they should we should raise taxes. Every year billions get wasted on programs that do nothing (gun registry). The GST should be totally scrapped, and people/governments get back to living within their means.


Ahmed Ibrahim
said

I am not a liberal but a typical canadian who can vote all across the central spectrum except for NDP and the likes of former Alliance. I have to say though, that the conservative tend to make the worst economic decisions. Paradoxally they are those that deficit and high debt and this is visible both in the US and Canada alike. In the US, the democrates cut welfare rate and run surplus where the liberals here take the country from the brink of banckruptcy thanks to the Mulroney conservatives to a decades of surplus and debt payment as well as taxe cuts and reduction on expenenses. Same in the US Bush is ruinning the Clinton suprlus. Why? in either case, ideological drives force them to reward their demographics by repacing poor man welfare by a rich corporation and bodies welfare. They tend to favor governement spendings ideoloqicly through defense, security and prison programs which in turn creates huge governement expenses and when you add populist tax cuts and corporate welfare, you get deficit and debt.


Wolf
said

"A study released by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives on Monday says..."

The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives is obviously a government / private funded socialist think tank... a quick search on google reveals that this organization’s website is referenced from all sorts of union and socialist websties all over the country. Maybe a few deficits are in order so this organizations funding gets cutout!!!!

Realize what you are reading people!! They don’t want tax cuts… there funding is threatened by having your money returned to you!!



Roger T
said

Doesn't take a scientist to figure this one out. The Conservative Gov't can't expect to keep up with the surplus and services it provides with a tax cut. it's only a temporary thing. Of course it's all a stunt to pull in votes, lets see when the next Gov't will raise taxes and get blamed for it.


Nick J Boragina
said

I find it funny that some suggest that because of the downturn in the US, that Harper is a bad PM. Then again there is an old adage from the US: "It's raining, I blame the President"

I for one agree that a deficit would look bad politically, and think that Harper will manage to balance it somehow to avoid one. To do any less would cause him to look silly on economic issues.


Scott
said

This completely incompetant Conservative government should face the music for putting us back into deficit territory through their idiotic and poorly timed GST cut. Their blatant vote buying has now put us in further economic trouble. Time to get them OUT.


Ken
said

This is proof that the Conservatives do not know how to handle being in power. Even with a minority, they haven't got the basic ability to manage a budget, and have proven ONCE AGAIN that they are irresponsible and lack any foresight whatsoever. Deficits are something we have not seen since the last Conservative government handed the liberals a multi-billion dollar deficit, which they got under control right away, and thanks to their responsible fiscal management, we haven't seen until now. Flaherty needs to be fired immediately.


Raj
said

It should be pretty clear to everyone that the conservative government has risked our economic future so they can look good today in the hopes of gaining a majority government soon. Remember, we may have had a decade of surplus but we're not out of debt yet.

All parties need to start looking out for the country's best interests rather than their own political interests. If they truly do (as I believe the Liberals did in the 90s) the trust and loyalty of the electorate will follow.


Pat_Pending
said

Typical of the CONservatives. The Liberals balanced the budget, cut taxes AND paid down the debt with surpluses. When they took office, they inherited the strongest economy in history, thanks to 13 years of good Liberal administration. Two years into a CON administration, and we are going to run up a deficit. The CONs are the most incompetent fiscal managers in Canadian history. It's time to boot them out of office.


bruno
said

It goes to show again that these Cons are unfit to govern. Thanks to their useless GST cuts which encourage more consumption of foreign made goods.


Mike
said

It is simple. Cut some of the meaningless social programs in order to create a surplus.

Oh, I can hear the Liberals and NDPers crying because of that comment, but the fact is that the government should not try to "take care of" every sob story out there. I like a working man's/women's government!!


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