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Date: Mon. Feb. 20 2012 11:27 PM ET

Canada has fired a diplomatic shot across the bow of the European Union, warning that any move to single out oilsands crude as environmentally unfriendly will be met with retaliation.

Canada's ambassador to the EU, David Plunkett, sent a letter to Connie Hedegaard, the EU commissioner for climate change in December.

That letter was recently obtained through a freedom of information request and cited by Britain's the Guardian newspaper, which has been reporting on the EU plan to change the classification of oilsands crude.

Ottawa opposes any move that would hurt its ability to export oilsands products or market it around the world as a viable fuel option.

"If the final measures single out oilsands crude in a discriminatory, arbitrary or unscientific way, or are otherwise inconsistent with the EU's international trade obligations, I want to state that Canada will explore every avenue at its disposal to defend its interests, including at the World Trade Organization," stated the letter.

Environmental groups have continuously lobbied against Alberta's oilsands, arguing the process to extract the fuel has catastrophic effects on the local environment and the global climate.

On Feb. 23, the EU will vote on a proposal to label crude from the oilsands as causing 22 per cent more greenhouse gas emissions than conventional oil, on average, based on the energy required to extract the bitumen from the ground.

Plunkett's letter was made public a day after a published report by one of the world's top climate scientists concluded that burning coal, not mining oilsands, is the biggest threat to global warming.

Andrew Weaver, a University of Victoria professor, and his colleague Neil Swart analyzed how burning all global stocks of coal, oil and natural gas would affect temperatures. In a paper published in the prestigious Nature journal, they found that burning all of the world's coal deposits would increase the global temperature by 15 degrees Celsius.

By contrast, if all the hydrocarbons in the oilsands were mined and consumed, the global temperatures would rise by about 0.36 degrees, according to Weaver and Swart's calculations.

While many are interpreting the study as a defence of Alberta's oilsands, Greenpeace Canada says that's not the case.

Mike Hudema, a campaigner with the environmental organization, told CTV's Power Play Monday that Weaver's study has been "misconstrued."

Hudema said he personally spoke with Weaver, who told him that his study ultimately reinforces the need for Canada -- and the world -- to end its dependence on fossil fuels altogether.

The study does not exonerate the oilsands, Hudema said, and "it doesn't change the reality here in Canada."

"When it comes to emissions, tar sands are the biggest problem," he said.

But Michelle Rempel, the parliamentary secretary for Environment Minister Peter Kent, told Power Play the Conservative government is taking "a balanced approach" between environmental stewardship and protecting its job-rich industry sector.

She said Canada is following environmental regulations and has the right to stand up for its economic interests and protect its international reputation.

NDP MP Olivia Chow called the Conservatives' "threatening" letter about the oilsands to the EU "unacceptable."

"Diplomacy is what's most important, not threats," she told Power Play.

Last October, Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver sent a letter with a similar message to European commissioner for energy Gunther Oettinger and Baroness Catherine Ashton, vice president of the commission.

"If unjustified, discriminatory measures to implement the fuel quality directive are put in place, Canada will not hesitate to defend its interests," Oliver wrote in the letter also cited by the Guardian.

The Guardian has also reported on recent closed-door meetings between British and Canadian officials discussion the issue, and British efforts to help protect the reputation of Canada's oilsands.

The U.K. has reportedly proposed an alternative option, which would use a so-called "banded" approach to link carbon emissions levels to different types of fuels. That approach would not single out oilsands crude.

The massive Keystone XL pipeline proposal, which would carry oil from Alberta to Texas, was recently put in jeopardy when U.S. President Barack Obama delayed any decision on the project until after the 2012 election.

Since then Canada has focused on the possibility of a Northern Gateway pipeline, which would instead carry oil from Alberta to the West Coast, making it more accessible to customers in China.

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kat
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And you wonder why the EU will really not be able to sustain itself. Any wonder.


Steve in Ottawa
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The oilsands are a national embarrassment. What's even worse is this federal government of ours. I ask any of you when in Canadian history did we have such an undiplomatic government on the international stage as this current government? Even Mulroney's PC's were not as bad Harper's government. I guess we are reaping what we sew, we voted them in and gave them a majority government. Get used to this abrasive, unkind approach. They're just bullies.


Desiree
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you can't control opinion. Canada can't do anything but keep getting the message.

There are people who ask me what's really going on in the oil industry where I am from and some who have their false opinions cemented and their minds cannot be changed.

However I do think the industry itself is doing a poor job in defending itself and needs to spend a few billion of their profits and still have money left over to explain things internationally.


SF Thomas, Ottawa
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The comparison of all the emissions from the entire world's coal reserves versus the total hydrocarbons in the oil sands alone is a pretty one sided comparison. They should strip that down and compare a more localized deposit of fossil fuels to get a more realistic comparison.


Hydrogen is the only ethical choice
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Why arent we investing in hydrogen fuel infastructure?


Reality 101
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So, when Alberta finishes it's process of turning itself into Canada's chemical laden septic tank, which provinces want to adopt the financial nightmare it will leave.after it goes broke. Coming to a Province near you.


True North Strong and Free
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The EU is a slow dying political and economic experiment gone bad. Their voice on the global stage is slowly fading and will continue to diminish. The EU has faltered and the only strong voice that is coming off that continent will b Germany, Britain and may France but egven their voices on the world stage will be a middle power. In the future it will there will be economic superpowers and there will be Energy superpowers. Russia and Canada alone hold so much of the worlds oil, gas, minerals, gold, fresh water than any other nation on earth. Europe who is dependant on its resoruces from outside will have to pay a pretty penny to get any of it. The US and China will continue to be the world economic superpowers where Germany will fall to around 6th place in the world of economic power Canada has never looked better and those energy starving nations of the world will one day be wishing they had stayed on Canada's good side.


Chris in Ottawa
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It hurts my soul to see the tar sands and realize what we're sacrificing for short term gain.


Goldens
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Don't know what all the fuss is about. The EU is too far away. The major market for Tar sands oil is Asia and the USA. If there is an EU boycott they will be boycotting oil off the east coast and that is great. That will mean I will pay less for gas and those in the EU will pay a lot more.


Old Ted
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If they don't want our oil, that's fine. There are more than enough markets to sell to. Still we have to make sure that the big oil boys are doing all they can to keep pollution to a minimum. They never do without a little arm twisting.


Dixie from Alberta
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They are called the OIL SANDS ... tar sands is a dirty swear word out here in Alberta. When the H is Europe going to gets it oil from....Iran. China is looking better every day.


Jeff in BC
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Good for the EU. Any country that wants to bankroll growth on this dirty tar should be condemned!


Ian
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It's a pity that northern Alberta will have a small percentage of it disturbed for 100 of billions of dollars in profit. Who cares about educational grants, world class health and science research facilities, arts funding, environmental R&D. I would rather be like the rest of Canada where 35 year old men work at Tim Hortons and their families rent dive apartments than disturb the frozen wasteland that is Northern Alberta. So what if It already contains one of the biggest parks on earth? If some HR rep from Hamilton sleeps better at night because she doesn't get jolted awake from the horrors of the close up tailings pond shot then so be it!

CarlyO
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To the entitled.Coal is dirtier....To AJ and friends,When you find pixie dust for our fuel needs, let us know.


CK
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Everyone's complaining, but do you realize that Canada depends on the oil sands.. Where would our country be financially if not for the money we get from Alberta. How much money goes out east to Quebec and Ontario every year from Alberta.. The world runs on oil, so oil will be collected regardless of the consequences to the enviroment, it's the world we live in.


Michael Foehr
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I would like to say for all of those who have criticized the Harper Government and the tar sands...well here is some food for thot!! If you drove a vehicle in any province from Ontario to the west, all the way to BC and it used fossil fuel it came from the "Tar Sands!!"If I am not mistaken...Quebec and the Maritimes get their crude from Middle East! So...unless you ride a bike or walk or somehow move that does not burn fossil fuels...then you better just shut your yap about where our oil comes from!!!!


Right as Always
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These environmental stories always bring out the right-wing flat-earth ostriches. Yes, I know we don't have a viable alternative fuel yet, that the tar sands will be mined regardless and we will end up selling our oil regardless. Thing is: The tar sands are dirty oil, there's no denying it. Anyone making the claim that it's somehow cleaner than other types is either a fool, or thinks the rest of us are. Bottom line - we're NOT buying it. And apparently neither are the 'leftist', 'pinko commie' Europeans.


Remarkable
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The EU are hypocrites, while BP spews millions of barrells of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, the north sea, polluting Nigeria they have the gull to take a shot at Canada? Sorry guys, the EU who just so happens to be at the brink of a financial meltdown need to be put in their place. Europe has been one of the worlds worst polluters over the last 3 centuries, so bad that the pollution in their air was killing off of their forests. I think the EU should stop sticking their nose in our business and other peoples business and stop pretending that they are morally superior than the rest of the world, because if anything that continent is morally corrupt, history points that fact out quite clear.


RWMDRON
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If the beggars over there want help in the future maybe they better think twice. Check your own back yards before checking ours. Take a real close look at your own back yards and close your your mouths. You folks over there have a lot of yard cleaning to do before talking about us. OKAY!


Hugh
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@ AJ: I just did a Google map search for the OIL Sands. I didn't see any big scar on Alberta. In fact I had to zoom in a lot to show any of the oil sand projects. Your misstatement is duly noted.


GHW
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Who cares what the EU thinks about our oil. We have plenty of buyers and time is on our side. The EU is a failed political system that is in the process of collapsing. Soon all those limp-wristed lefties will have to work for living. Let them buy their oil from terrorists and lunatics. The only reason Green peace picks on Canada is because Canada has money to potentially fund their economic terrorist organization. Canada needs to diversify its business relationships with countries that are fiscally sound not with losers.


Niagara George
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When someone doesn't like what Vic Toews does, they retaliate. Vic doesn't like retaliation, so he calls the cops. When someone does something Steve Harper doesn't like, he threatens to retaliate. These CONning CONs are CONfusing!


Philo Skinner
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North bay Ont is the closest these socialists have been to Ft McMurray, but learned pontification still drags on. They should definitely trim the beards, shine up the plastic shoes (made from oil btw, & lefties are not fans of leather). then pack up the little knapsack kiddies & go take a look at how it all works, but don't even dream about staying, we've got enough of our own nutbars.


Basile
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What i can see and hear is bullying from Harper and its western stooges. He may be able to falsify documents in Canada in favor of the tar sands but the world has a right to its opinions. And all it will do his turn the EU and others againts Canada and the western provinces. Nothing gain. And to present the tar sand as clean please the oil sheets lakes that are seen from space don't exactly show a clean province nor attitude. You can run but you can't hide.


Dave
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Kyoto accord leaders at one time to World destroyers the next. Canada is in the top 3 for greenhouse gas producers. Majority due to the tar sands, increasing our average by 22%! I for one am ashamed of how little we respect the future of our country, and planet. No, I'm not a hippy who is all for nature, but when I see how bad this has become, I am appalled at our Government and it's stance. Creating Lobbyests around the world to promote destruction of our Country and what fragments of "pride" we have left. Go ahead and hate this, but we all know that oil will be the ruin of us. Great for the economy, also the nail in the coffin for it (economy) as well.


thinking woman
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Funny how the media doesn't show any pictures of the areas that have been reclaimed, the meadows, the buffalo herd, etc., just the ugly parts of it.


power engineer
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Most of the bitumen is very close to the surface and is mined with large loaders and trucks. The place is a giant oil spill BEFORE the bitumen is mined. Removing it is actually cleaning up the area. The newer technology, SAGD, removes the bitumen at deeper levels by injecting steam into the well to soften the bitumen. It is then pumped to the surface with the condensate and is then separated. The water is recycled and is reused in the process. This method does much less surface disturbance.


KC BC
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Many making negative comments about the oil sands seem to have no clue about ecological succession. Go to many natural areas such as Mount St. Helens, Mount Etna , and Vesuvius and you will see total destruction of ecosystems which are past the pioneer stages in many places. Yes, it does take time but the environment will return to the normal state. Many open pit mining areas are returning to their natural state with the help of humans as well. It would seem that most over the top criticisms are purely politically motivated. Why not become informed intellectually rather than by emotion!


Mark in Newmarket
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It appears that the Europeans are going to be between a rock and a hard place. Iran will stop shipping oil to them and they are looking to other oil producing countries to fill that gap. Apparently they would prefer getting oil sands from Russia than from Canada. But please tell me, is there anything called clean oil? The Europeans can go back into their freezing homes (they are suffering a very long cold winter) rub a few sticks together to start afire in their ancient fireplaces and huddle together in one room under a blanket. In the very near future Europe is going to need more and more of our energy and the way they are going about it isn't going to exactly make them our preferred customer. I think that Canada should boycott buying European goods starting with their over priced and unreliable, their chocolate, cabbage rolls, strudel and that terrible techno pop garbage. These whining thumbsuckers who depend on the world for food and oil adn raw materials should be cut off, besides who are they to Canada other than a place we have to go and bail out twice in the twentieth century and had to guard during the cold war.


Marc - newmarket
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I tired of the residents of Ontario and Quebec whining about oil sands. Here is an option lets stop oilsands now and reduce transfer payment to Ontario and Quebec and the rest of the have nots. You think Ontario and Quebec and the maritimes are in financial disarry now. Imagine billions less in transfer payments because oilsands royalities are no longer rolling in. Typical of the east whining and wanting it all. When Ontario and PQ were heavy manufacturing giants and polluting away where was the indignation? Ya I thought so. Canadians love their standard of living and free health care. How do you think we can afford this folks? For all you lefties who try to suck and blow at the same time, the gravy train will end. Albertians are Canadians too and value the same things you do. They will ensure they are as environmental as possible. Oh btw I am boran and raised in Ontario, and Im smart enough to understand the realities.


Tina
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Thats right, single out the Europe which has supported us and is decent to its people and befriend China, the leader in human rights abuses. My god our government has such an obviously nearsighted agenda. Money over people, its a sad state we live in.


rockinron
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I guess if the EU find our oil too dirty, they can always buy it from their close friend Iran!


RowG777
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It has been proven that Alberta's oil sands only produce .01% of all greenhouse gas emissions where China is up around 25%. I believe it a good thing that Canadian Ministers are standing up for Canadian oil. Where would our Canadian economy be without the oil sands?


Mac
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US market will not grow in the ways that Alberta needs.
US is a stagnant market much like Europe is. Debt is too high, economics are messed, they're both on the brink of collapse. We cannot afford to have this great province and nation be dragged down because of a few nations that just have no idea how to spend money.
We need to go to Asia and Africa, they have opportunities to be growing. You look at as a percentage terms, a lot of the fastest growing economies are in Africa. Fastest Major economies based on size are in Asia, both of which Alberta should go. USA has its own oil production, and they like to buy from the middle east anyway. So lets just stop waiting for the USA to make a move and be the leader here.


Glenn
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It would seem that with the threat of Iranian oil shipments being cut off, the EU would be wise to secure a more stable supply than Middle Eastern and Russian oil.


higgy in toon town
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It's not the European Union we need to worry about it's the dippers in our own country we should try shut up and that goes for certain Liberals as well. You can see how much moving to a so called more environmentally friendly society has helped Ontario, does a half not province come to mind.


wstrncehnehdeh in SK
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I just want to know why we aren't building more refineries here in Canada so that we can supply finished product to other countries. That would create more Canadian jobs, wouldn't it?


AJ
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Alberta can stack the various "independent" boards and assesments to favor themselves all they want. They can slide in changes to regulations under the table to help out rich buddies and line their own pockets. Nobody in the world shows such disregard for the environment as Alberta. The words are all manipulation...just look at a satellite view of Alberta and look. Easy to find the oilsands from space. it's the big scar in the middle of Alberta. take a look at the clearcuts along the eastern slopes while you're at it! Yes jobs are important but this can be done properly without raping the earth.


gregg01
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sadly its true,but it can be extracted smelling like roses and adding healthy additives to the environment plus a lush garden wouldn't hurt, but the clean up later attitude is like the cheque is in the mail, as long as corporations are allowed to police themselves the interest of the shareholders will prevail. If the cost of extraction is a 100% environmentally safe it wouldn't be worth extracting. With all the R&D monies tax payer spent you should be able to drink out of the tailing ponds.


lola
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How many wrongs make a right?


Patricia
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Don't tell me Harper now thinks we can become a bully like the US?! If I was the European Union I would definitely call this bozo on that! Not only are we spewing out into the air the worst carbon of the developed world, poisoning our own people in the process but we're trying to ship our asbestos output to anywhere but here. Do we honestly have to live with Harper another 3-4 years?


Brendan H. Fort McMurray
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@Al ... there is no such thing as the "tar sands" in AB. Rather, it is the "oil sands"
@Scott Mckay ... The prohibiting of taking pictures on site is nothing new. This has been applied since the start at any of the sites. And Scott ... it has NOTHING to do with letting the world see what is going on!
I qualify to make these comments as I was born and raised in McMurray and I am a 'third generation' of our family to be gainfully employed at the oil sands.


Sean
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Here's a thought, let's keep our oil!


Chris
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@Matt,I don't think you understand oil production. Canada does not have the capablility to refine the bitumen to make it into oil. To build a refinery would cost more money than it would be worth in order turn it into oil. Shipping it south to the major american refineries through keystone pipeline is (was) econimically the best plan. If we built a refinery, it would have to be given heavy government subsidies (Tax money) because no company would invest in it, it does not make sense economically. So really would we be getting that oil for cheaper if we had no one to sell it to?


Ann in Calgary
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There are also tar sands in Russia, & in Utah, & production is expanding there as well. Let's see how ugly that gets too.

Tar sands are ugly, plain & simple. Even before mining, oil sands are ugly, sticky, & smelly. Unfortunately the main problem is the destruction of other lands adjacent to these areas, & the water sources being wasted to flush out oil. I'd like to see a measure to protect some of these resources (boreal forest, Athabasca river & other watersheds) but ignoring & not using the oil sands is a waste of resource.

Canada needs to stand up for its own interests, but *threatening* is ridiculous & nobody takes that seriously. Addressing what really makes people mad about these things would help Canada's image, instead of taking the old Klein approach to diplomacy.


peter in mb
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How many millions of liters of crude oil did British Petroleum spill into the ocean? And the EU wants to criticize Canada? Ha Ha Ha! It would seem that the ones who are pointing the finger have 3 pointing back at themselves.


Tony
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Personally, I think Harpoon and all his tory cronies should be tried, found guilty of selling out our beautiful country, sent to Europe on one of our leaky submarines and if they make it let the rest of the world do as they wish with them!! Pleas can we just make them go away?!!


sherry
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What I am more concerned about it when it hits our B.C. waters to be exported somewhere else. The Coast is still suffering from by gone spills. They all said it would never happen as well. Sorry, don't believe any of them.


Kevin in Calgary
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I would love to know what Eastern Canada thinks about all its gold strip mining or Quebec's Asbestos plants, Or Massive Hydro damns that took destroying local lands to make, all the coal fired power plants, or the nuclear reactors just waiting for a meltdown. Wake up people, we need energy and Western Canada has one of the biggest deposits in the world. The Giant Oil companies spend billions on environmental assessments and restoring the earth to "better than original condition". The oilsands contributes Billions upon Billions of dollars not only to Western Canada, but the country as a whole, How else would Eastern Canada have money for all there Socialist left wing programs without the oilsands money?


lmo
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@devils advocate You are very mis-informed, Light Sweet Crude is not closer to the surface than the Oil Sands product, Normally you drill right through aquafirs to get to this type of light sweet oil. Most oilsand bitumen is very close to the surface, they load it in trucks in allot of instance for processing. Get your facts straight before you go on your high and mighty left wing rants.


Len
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From the comments about this story seems that most are from Alberta. Not to criticize - beautiful province and really enjoy going to Banff. But, the oil sands are a now entity. The oils sands are bringing untold wealth to Alberta and Harper and company know this. Too bad that the landscape is destroyed and our government wants to live for the 'now' so they rattle off about the benefits of oil from this project. Only question is, in 20 years, when a third of Alberta looks like the moon, the oil dried up, who is going to be the winner? Not my grandchildren, for sure!


Murray
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Oil Companays have taken most of the cheap oil out of the ground. The oil that is left is, very deep in the ground, or is off shore. The Oil sands is not the best answer, but there's not much choice. Even if there was another option to oil, fuel and gas, it would take 10 or more years, to get rid of every, car, truck, train, ship, etc. that needs oil to operate.


MJ - Medicine Hat
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As much as the oilsands have a negative environmental impact (that is being slowly minimized), at least it's contained. Just look at the widespread environmental damage from off-shore and transportation disasters, and yet there is no suggestion to classify oil from these sources as anything especially nasty. Why is oilsands production being singled out?


GRK from Oakville, ON
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Eu are a bunch of lefty socialists....thats why they pay $8 a gallon or higher for gas...do we really care what they think? They don't have to buy our oil....we will keep it and use it ourselves....


Camwest
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Why is there no complaints about the coal industry??? This is insane, we burn natural gas to get the bitumen out, we use the steam to produce electricity. The rig I am working on uses ELECTRICITY generated from natural gas used to heat the McMurray formation, saving 4000l of diesel fuel a day. Once McMurray shut down shut down the steal mills in Hamilton (casing) and the pay cheques to the federal government and all the eastern workers working out here.


Prof. Ralph
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Actually, environmentalists should rally to have the oilsands mined as quickly as possible. This area, in it's natural state, contains a 100 ft or so deep layer of heavy oil in an area of well over 10,000 sq miles, right at or just below the surface. Just sitting there. In it's natural state the fumes from this "natural" oil constantly evaporate into the air and millions or barrels equivalent erode into the rivers and streams (oil "sands" erode easily).What the oil companies are actually doing is equivalent to cleaning up a huge toxic waste site - taking the toxins (oil) out, and eventually turning it into a clean, natural area. Looks messy and dirty while they are doing it but afterward, when it's all done, with all the oil gone from the soil it will be clean and pristine.


SDCinNS
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Fine Europe.. continue to rely of Iran for your oil. How's that working out for you?


mike
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So they would rather buy their oil from Iran, syria, saudia arabia, and places that dont care about human rights, who put women as second class, who dont let their own people vote. What a joke.When they are cut off from these regimes they will come begging for the oil from Alberta.I suppose that it it cleaner to pollute the oceans rather than dig up dirt and reprocess it. This is the EU that is almost banckrupt and they are telling Canadians that they dont like our oil.When you need it it will cost you dearly and you probably wont be able to afford it anyway.


Tom McCahill
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The biggest problem with the oil (bituminous) sands? Vacuous, ill informed,parasitic,fading Hollywood types get the press and informed, educated technical people involved with the industry don't...
The press panders to mental lightweights who need the entertainment angle to absorb the non technical information.
The EU? They should be worried about the cost of unchecked socialism-not the most technically advanced industry on the planet


joe canada
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don't sell them oil and hey lets hold on to other natural resources such as our lumber. Maybe just up the price of our lumber by 300%. they have no wood, they already cut most of their forests down. make a oil refinery and keep it in our country and tell the rest to go pound (oil) sand.


Mark - Alberta
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I love how almost all comments against the oil sands are from people who have never been there and seen it. Instead so-called 'experts' from the rest of Canada condemn the oil sands because they heard or read that it was bad.


Anniem
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As an ex-pat who has lived in the UK for almost 5 years I say good on the EU. The tar sands is disgusting and should be subjected to strict sanctions.


goldens
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Are they going to do the same as they did when the EU banned seal products?


eddytoronto
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If You think the Price Of Gas Is Outrageous? It Is Going To Go Even Higher even though energy consumption is sharply declining due to economic collapse...They will force You all to stop driving Your cars...When war does erupt or if commercial traffic through the Strait of Hormuz is interrupted for even a brief time that would send the global price of oil through the roof....


BOB
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So funny to listen to the people who know nothing about the oil sands, and listen to them try and place their biased nonfactual based opinion on it. What a bunch of idiots. Cola is the worlds largest pollution generating source, by 10000% all the oil sands in the world dont even compare or pale in comparison to the CO2 from COAL. We could burn all the OIL from the OIl sands in the world and it still would not even be a fraction of what Coal does to the planet.


Stephen
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Canadian oil sands are the only projects in the petroleum industry that actually do environmental assessments and are also the only ones that have an official environmental plan. Now granted, these plans won't solve all of the issues today, but Canada is the only country that is implementing measures to improve what they can now, and to stimulate technologies that have the aim of tackling the damage caused by oil sands exploitation.

To point the finger at Canada, and not even lift a pinky for other countries whose economies thrive on blood oil is quite hypocritical. Canada is evil, but those who extract light crude from the middle east, at the cost of thousands of civilian lives, well they're ok I guess.



Adam G
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The desperation is palpable. Everyone else feel it? The pusherman is losing his raison d'etre! Thank god for that!


Al
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Perhaps if the tarsands oil is frowned upon by people of the world, the Canadian dollar will drop once again allowing Canada to maintain a manufacturing base instead of having companies head south. Having oil is great but does it really benefit the majority of Canadians? We don't save on gas prices do we? We have a high dollar but still pay more for the same products that Americans buy.We need to refine oil and produce cheaper gasoline for sale in Canada which in turn will aid manufacturing due to the cheaper fuel costs that would result. Canadian oil needs to benefit all Canadians!


Sal
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Go solar and wind power!


David from Edmonton
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Until there is much better control over the pollution produced by the oil sands, I'm on the side of the European Union. As far as Harper's bully boys, I say call their bluff.


Steve
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Likely most of the commentors have never seen the oil sands, not even been close to the huge mess that is the result. PEOPLE !!! It's NOT pretty !!! Sadly our Government is on a do it now and we'll clean it up later program, which history taught us works perfectly.As for the EU... they are an independent body and can do as they like (free world anyone) but to have Master Harper threaten them... seriously ?? To think that Canada used to be viewed as a Global Peacemaker & Negotiator.. oh well, this is the New Age.But it's OK.... We can have parliament enact incomplete / badly planned laws, cancelling of environmental programs, health programs, food inspectors, support for our vets returning from war, Agent Orange victims cut off for bureaucratic bungling and all these other wonderfully "Progressive" things that the Regressive Conservatives are up to... No Problem at all!


peter in BC
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Of course the Reform party....errr....I mean the Conservatives are going to war over their oil sands. Fact is that the oil sands are the single, largest black eye on Canada. BUT, Harper knows that the oil sands are the only thing keeping Canada from feeling the full effects of the global economy and more importantly, it's the only thing that is feeding the government finances to help keep Canada from looking like the rest of the world. But threatening against the EU over this? Face it, the oil sands are an environmental disaster and yes, it is also a source of immense government dollars which Canada needs at this point in the global slowdown. Take the punch, run damage control and move on. Canada has never played these kinds of kid games before and the Conservatives (who's political ads we are all to familiar with) should stay quiet on this one.


Matt
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I hope every Country bans oil sands so then Canada can finally stop selling our oil to other Countries then buying it back for twice the price.


maggie
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The EU should look in their own backyard before going after us - though we are not perfect - we are making things right in the oilfields and making sure we are environmentally (more) friendly etc (and we CAN improve) .Have they every cleaned up the poisoned rivers in the former East Germany and Poland? Have they ever cleaned up the factories spewing pollution into the air and ground/rivers ??? point in fact - the go after our seal hunters - but dont go after the Danish who corral and slaughter dophins in a bay... butchering them ALIVE !When the EU says they dont want anymore oil... period - then maybe the domino effect will happen and you no longer want or need our oil ! and we can do the same !


stevo
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Retaliate with what? Not selling the oilsands oil will hurt Alberta more than it hurts the Europeans who will just find oil from elsewhere. Visas for Europeans if they want to visit the Calgary Stampede? Prevent Quebec from exporting maple syrop? Rightly or wrongly Canada appears like its stuck in the 19th century defending the oilsands, asbestos, the seal hunt. It's time for Canada to invest in better PR to clean up our worldwide image or else our oil will be as attractive as African blood diamonds


Ian
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I grew up in Ft McMurray, I spent my adolescence in the woods and flew aircraft around the region when I became older. I also worked for a major oil sands plant. It is shocking to me the people who think they know anything at all about the oil sands operations, their impact or the impact on the natives who live there. The environment is far from destroyed, haha its laughable to even hear that. The boreal forest area is massive and the floral and fauna tenacious. Is there pollution? Absolutely but in perspective to the opportunity it gives people, the commerce generated and need it fulfills, it is reasonable. The lower mainland in B.C. Has been completely devastated by development on a much larger scale. The factories of Europe run on Nuclear and after Fukishima are moving back to Coal!! Lol and they criticize us? Nothing but sour grapes!


Mister C
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Back in 1995 our Klein Government gave the Oil Industry self regulating and self monitoring powers because they said the Industry had the expertise to recover the bitumen safely and responsibly. These Companies must take 95% of the blame for the BLACK EYE that surrounds what they have done to date - The leaking, toxic waste lakes are the biggest visable problem.There have been eleven different studies done on the Athabasca Delta bitumen recovery projects that highlight the problems. Our Provincial Government has ignored them and the PMO has had two of their own scientific studies shredded. Now they have a new team trying to make a bad scene look good. The answer lies in both levels of government forcing this industry to follow tough safety and Environmental standards and stop trying to defend the undefensible.


lmo
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Better be carefull what they wish for Iran closed their taps on two Euro countries today.No problem, Don't sell them any oil at all. Let's focus solely on Asian and American markets.They can get their own or buy conflict oil from the Middle East. The emerging markets is where its at anyway.


devils advocate
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Where the EU and others go off the rails is in not acknowledging the other ways in which Canadian oilsands production is vastly superior to middle eastern producers and that is in politcal stability, "ethics" and even the efforts that are going towards improving the real environmental consequences of oilsands extraction. Unfortunately, belowing insults and threats at your own people and the international community is not effective at getting this point across. This is especially true if you calm your anger for a moment and realize there is plenty of scientific evidence supporting the base claim that olisands bitumen requires more energy, more water, and more processing to remove it from the ground than "light sweet" crude which is essentially liquid oil closer to the surface. We have to sell our oilsands resource based on its superiority in these other areas and tone down the righteous indignation about the environmental finger-pointing.


T
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I suppose they think drilling holes in the ocean floor is much better. But we all know how clean that is after that little spill in the gulf not so long ago. Now that is an environmental impact. I could have sworn that was a EU based company.


Bulldog
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Its amazing watching Canada grow into a big kid among a group of big kids on the international block. Our government is correct in securing "our" interests first and foremost! Who are the Europeans to dare criticize our domestic affairs? Greece, Spain, Portugal, just to name a few of their problems they should be focusing on...Just a thought


Alberta Boy
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It would be great to see a documentory on how other countries mine their oil. Including all their safety practises and eviorment protection practises, as for how they treat their employee well we can pretty well see that already. How about it ----IRAN? Also while we are at it lets check out the blood oil production to.This would be very interesting.Oh for Britian and France sorry Iran cut you guys off where else can you purchase more oil-------CANADA MAYBE???????????????


Jack The Greaser
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Canada has to educate the EU who have listening only to environmentalists who aren't telling the whole story. Taking the oil out of there will actually help the environment. The tars sands cover an area of tens of thousands of square miles where the oil is just below the surface. The reason it is heavy or thicker is because the lighter ingredients (butanes, etc) are "naturally" evaporating up through the sands and into the atmosphere. Those toxic fumes go into the atmosphere. My neighbor works as a surveyor in untouched areas up there and they are directed to stay out of their tents on hotter days as the fumes get trapped in the tents and will make them sick. Also, all the streams "naturally" erode the "sands" and wash raw tar into the Athabasca River. This natural oil flows into the McKenzie and then the Arctic Ocean. The oil companies are in the long term cleaning up this natural environmental disaster area and paying us taxpayers billions to do it. Win-win.


rj
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I love when Canadian's who live in eastern provinces say that it is good to clean up the oil sands and how bad they are. It is true that the Prov and Fed. governments monitor the oil companies. But those in the eastern provinces must also remember that most of the money from transfers come from Alberta and the oil sands.


Henry
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Canada warns??? .. My Canada is pretty tough warning the world, I have to say I am freaked out cause China owns the sands now so it might be China doing the warnings now through Harper and his new privacy bill since he left China last Wednesday, waiting for the other shoe to drop.


Trevor
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I'm glad to see we are standing up for ourselves. But Obama putting this off is just a ploy to get another term and not chance losing votes. We should just partner with China and forget about the US. Their economy is a disaster and this is a chance for so many jobs for them. But no. Obama getting another term is more important. Screw the US. let them continue to burn up in flames. Other countries would love our oil. Let the us keep buying their oil from savages.


Scott McKay
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I have more than one relative that works at the oil sands. They were all told that if they were caught taking pictures anywhere that they would be fired on the spot. Guess the companies don't want people to see the true extent of environmental damage that is being done. The area resembles the appearance of multiple asteroid strikes having taken place.


Ryan from Victoria
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I take issue with Canada having an aggressive position on this. Not very Canadian. Maybe it's time we were a little feisty and stood a little taller but I feel getting bristled and taking too aggressive a stance will make us look....American? Additionally, education is key. Greenpeace/media like to show "mucky" images of the sands. What is the real story?


robb
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How much blood has been spilled with Canadian oil? None!!!!!!!!!!! Enough said.


John ON
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British Petroleum's deep sea drilling in the Gulf of Mexico is an infinitely worse environmental problem. Increasing deep sea drilling to shut down the oil sands is an environmental contradiction.


Chris Parker
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I am not in favour of oil sands development, at least not at the rate that it currently is being developed. However, the Europeans have their own nasty little operations and habits, and if they are going to exclude oil sands oil from the EU, they need to use the same standards against ALL fuel, domestic and imported. I have no problem with environmental standards, but they need to be applied equally across the board.


tony
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No worries, my Canuck friends... if you decide to "drop the gloves" on the goon union... rest assured that team-mate U.S. has got your back. Oh, and we will have a pipeline once Uncle Barak is outta office.


Don Mitton
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why does the world find canada so offensive. what did we do to deserve this. we went to 2 world wars and assisted and we are still considered the bad guys.


Dayton
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Can't understand how one monitored 24/7 pipeline could be more hazardous than the hundreds of unmonitored ones criss- crossing the country side now? How can one large source of oil be more polluting than thousands of oil wells dotting the landscape? Makes you wonder who and for what real reason is behind the opposition????


Marty n Gail
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Go for it Canada. I seem to remember this pictures of the landscape and the factories of the eastern block countries and east Germany polluting the whole planet. They cant say a bloody word to our oilsands. we can breathe clean air of which i am sure they cannot.


One Canadian
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The oil sands are playing a major part in the Canadian economy. Even if the environmental damage is as bad as many are saying. The Oil companies have promised to return the land the way it was, once they've finished. However the pointing of fingers between Europe and the US towards Canada, seems to be getting more personal. Let me reminder the US that they are responsable for more environmental catastrophes then any other country in the world, how many oil spills, or coal warehouse that spew millions of carbons into the air. But I don't see them stopping. Let's not forget Britain too, with the BP oil spil... What is it US and EU? do you have a problem with Canada succeeding? That's ok ... there's a whole new market in Asia that would love our oil, and maybe if you continue on this way US, and Europe, maybe will decide to leave OPEC, and become an independant.


Sober
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When will those Europeans learn to stop shooting themselves in their own feet? Always trying to be "holier than thou" will not score them any points with anyone.


Observer
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Well, the govt better be ready to provide proof that the tar sands aren't hurting the environment. They don't keep records for that exact purpose.... Guess it'll all come out in the wash. Get ready for the truth. Finally.


Guelph Observer
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The tar sands got a black eye because they deserve it - over the past 30 years or so of operations, gov't and industry claimed that environmental monitoring was showing that there were no problems. And then last year some independent experts confirmed that monitoring was inadequate and needed to be upgraded. The EU should absolutely label the tar sands dirty until some real environmental monitoring data becomes available and until it shows that tar sands operations don't adversely impact the environment.


D. Vancouver
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Under the Harper Government and it's policies, I'm almost ashamed to be a Canadian. From what I understand about the tar sands, they are a real threat to the environment. And we are the last developed country to still be mining Asbestos and shipping it out to less developed countries. Shame on Canada and the Harper Government who has brought us to this place in history.


Roxy
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The government of Canada continues to huff & puff - its rhetoric full of arrogance , pomposity & threats - like a juvenile demanding full attention .....


Janna
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Europe poo poos Canada because they're very jealous of us and our rich natural resources. They're a continent of "debbie-downers". You can be sure if they have what we have their song and dance would be much different than it is because we stand to get super wealthy from our resources. While all you get over there are some cute photos of the Eiffel Tower but where's the value in that!$?$!?$!?


richard
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It doesn't appear that anyone in the E.U. has bothered to read the latest scientific studies regarding the tar sands. Somehow, this doesn't surprise me. I don't think the E.U. is very functional.


JC
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What is the date of the letter being cited? Our government has already given up on traditional trading partners. Glad to see our government thinking outside of the box. These countries are just shooting themselves in the foot and getting pushed to the back of line. Our energy resources will be sold now to whoever wants to buy them, and countries like the EU and the USA have to realize, there is no short list of countries who wish to do so.


James in Calgary
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Well done! Time we get some bark out there. We might be known as peacemakers, friendly, and bending over backwards to cater to all, but now and then we have to show some teeth and be ready to bite to protect our interests .


Gerald
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We need oil until we transition to a better source of energy for heating our homes and driving our cars. It's doubtful that my grandchildren will ever see a complete change to another source of energy.To me, it really doesn't matter if it comes from the bottom of the ocean or the oils sands. Oil is dirty and it pollutes no matter where it comes from, but we need to do our best to minimize the damage as best we can until there is a change and that won't happen fro a long long time , but in the meantime, it's all about politics.


Boycotting Already
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I've been boycotting Scotch whisky for a while now. French wines will be next.. And reconsidering buying another German auto. Go Canada, hit them where it hurts.


bc wayne
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The eco terrorists have attacked the forest industry,the fisheries,mining and salmon farming in BC.All have used junk science to manufacture lies to further their cause.All are backed by foreign interests.Let us removed all industry from the country and see whats left.


Bumcrack USA
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These "terrorist" and "radical" Western European nations must be put in their place. lol! Threats, threats and more threats by the bully reformers.


conductor274
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This Harper government specializes in threats and intimidation when anyone or any group opposes their actions. Canadians who oppose the Enbridge pipeline are against Canada, those who don't want to have cops and government infringe on their privacy stand with child pornographers, foreign money that Harper uses is good but when environmentalists use it they're vilified. Now Harper is out there threatening the EU while someone is apparently threatening Vic Toews. The old saying "you reap what you sow" applies here. Canada will no longer be a safe place with these far right wing religious ideologues in charge. They are inviting terrorism into Canada.


Canada in the Driver's Seat!
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Good for Canada to stand up for itself instead of letting those in the world with "secret" agendas sidewinding us and resulting in our bowing down to them. I'm glad to see that we have the moxy and bravado to chase a buck($) like the rest of those phony altruistic countries on the planet. We have nothing to feel guilty about!


Goddess
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Wow. Do you think perhaps given the reviews by independent Canadian scientists that were recognized and forced you to actually do something to improve the monitoring of oil sands environmental impacts... and opinions of other countries there might be something besides $ to consider? Could it be more apparent you don't have any regard for the environment or the first nations people whose land is going to be left with this mess of a legacy? What about water flows and quality in surrounding areas. Thanks for making Canada looking even more douchey.


Vanc Guy
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With how they treated us over the seal issue this is prudent. Europe sure loved us when they needed liberty - now they treat us like this?


NoContest
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Is the EU even really around anymore? It's funny how many of these countries are in absolute free fall but still find the time to give Canada a hard time from across the pond around seals and oil. Maybe if the UK and the EU focused on bringing their nations out of the 3rd world they'd be taken seriously.


bikerborz
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And people wonder why environmentalist groups are considered "extremist" and "terrorists" by CSIS and the government. No science to back up their defamatory claims, just invective and emotion. Good on Canada for standing up for herself!


robert
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We should shut down the oil sands and sit on it untill every one else runs out . think of how much it would be worth then and nobudy would be complaning about polution


gordie
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oil sands, asbestos, time to change the backpack flag to NZ.


Jill
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Good! Bout time Canada grow a pair.


Tim
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Anti-oilsand propaganda is so overrated. Canada must defends its oilsand industry with accurate and honest fact and make sure Peter Kent does not say / do anything stupid.


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