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Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release 'information' during what it calls 'Operation White North.' Minister of Public Safety Vic Toews responds to a question during question period in the House of Commons in Ottawa, Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release 'information' during what it calls 'Operation White North.' Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release 'information' during what it calls 'Operation White North.'

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Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release 'information' during what it calls 'Operation White North.' Minister of Public Safety Vic Toews responds to a question during question period in the House of Commons in Ottawa, Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release 'information' during what it calls 'Operation White North.' Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release 'information' during what it calls 'Operation White North.'

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Date: Mon. Feb. 20 2012 10:06 PM ET

The hacker group Anonymous is demanding Public Safety Minister Vic Toews kill the Internet surveillance bill and resign or it will release "information" during what it calls "Operation White North."

Two videos posted to YouTube feature a masked man and voice-overs that condemn the proposed Protecting Children from Internet Predators Act (Bill C-30).

"All this legislation does is give your corrupted government more power to control its citizens," a synthesized voice says in one of the videos still posted to the site Monday.

"We know all about you, Mr. Toews, and during Operation White North we will release what we have unless you scrap this bill," it states.

The RCMP has been called in to investigate apparent death threats against Toews as controversy swirls around the legislation. Police said Monday they haven't yet decided whether a full investigation will be launched.

"We've received information from Public Safety so what we're going to do is we're going to examine that information," RCMP Cpl. David Falls told The Canadian Press. "Depending on the situation, we may or may not initiate an investigation."

In an open letter to his Manitoba constituents distributed over the weekend, Toews said the threats have been "referred to the police for investigation."

The "personal attacks, criminal acts and threats of future criminal acts against me" won't prevent him from carrying out his parliamentary duties, the minister wrote.

"Any further criminal activity or threats of criminal activity against me or my family will also be referred to the police," Toews said in the statement.

Although CTV reporter Mercedes Stephenson said the RCMP has yet to respond to her inquiries concerning criminal threats against Toews, she did speak with a source close to the minister about the YouTube videos.

"They told me that he's not that concerned about the Anonymous video. He considers it to be a political video and it's a political threat and Anonymous makes a lot of political threats against a lot of different politicians," she told CTV News Channel Monday.

He's far more concerned by the potential security threats, Stephenson said.

In its current form, the bill would force Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to allow access to private data without a warrant. It would also permit the duplication of that data without oversight or appeal.

The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police and the Canadian Police Association both say they support Bill C-30 and it won't violate privacy rights.

The police chiefs' group had also backed the long-gun registry.

The deputy police chief in Vancouver spoke in favour of the legislation Monday arguing it's needed to save lives and still holds officers accountable for information they request.

"While it provides authority for the police to obtain basic subscriber information in the course of their duties, access to e-mail and Internet activity is only available with a warrant as is the case now," Warren Lemcke said at a press conference.

Bill C-30 enhances the ability of police to fight crime, prevent victimization and suicides, he said.

"Our hope is that Members of Parliament, the media and Canadians as a whole will take the time to view the legislation through the lens of law enforcement," Lemcke said.

The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police is disappointed by the amount of "misinformation and rhetoric that is clouding an important discussion on this issue," he said.

Toews said during debate in the House last week that anyone who opposed the law was supporting child pornographers. He has since backed away from that comment.

But the contentious statement did prompt the creation of an anonymous Twitter account "@Vikileaks30" that published details of Toews' divorce, family and his spending as an MP.

The Conservatives accused the NDP of operating the Twitter feed, something the party has denied.

In his letter, Toews went on to call the personal attacks against him futile, because they are based on records from his divorce proceedings, which are open to the public.

He went on to say that the breakdown of his previous marriage is something he is personally accountable for, "but that accountability is not something I owe to the public generally or to my political opponents in particular."

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Gus83
said

Our governments here and worldwide are dealing with a new form of "democracy" and are too old world. The US failed to pass their bill, and this bill will ultimately fail.

The only way to "control" such a huge entity is the way China has been successful. Erect a firewall and cut off all internet sites. Then allow them back one by one under close government supervision. Otherwise, the masses will decide the fate of the internet.


Julia
said

This bill is an open ended attempt to legalize Data Mining in Canada in a very public way, and unbelievably make the taking away of freedom palatable to the general population, by bundling it with the need to stamp out child pornography. It is a terrible idea, and one more huge stumble for the Reform Party, aka Harper's Conservatives. Hire some hackers to find the child pornography proponents, and obtain proper warrants, and use the court systems as they are. But no, this would mean police officers who are not skilled on internet policing would be out of a job! Doh.



nebcfsj
said

Given the stupidity of Toews's press-covered comments showing he knew very little about the act he was pushing on the Canadian public, I can hardly disagree with what Anonymous and others have said.

Joel
said

Personally, when one side of a debate starts issuing death threats, it tends to push me towards the opposite side..... Admittedly, it is a little odd that on one hand some who are against this bill would say that it is a violation of one's privacy, while also advocating the use of death threats, and thereby attack one's right to exist. Privacy > Life?


Phil N
said

As someone who has supported conservatives in the past, this bill goes too far on the right-wing nonsense to ever make sense to me.

What is so wrong with our society as it is now that we have to erode personal freedom like this?


Robert B
said

the perps = Anonymous


Canadian Citizen
said

Wow!!! The amount of people that have no clue about technology. Criminals DO NOT use their ISP, they use YOURS!!. They steal access and use proxies, only innocent people will be charged for things they had no clue about.

"But I've secured my WIFI" guess what?? can break through within about 10 seconds (even shown on youtube how to break in).

"The ISP assigned my IP and is attached to my MAC Address", guess what?? Can all be altered and changed. This bill is a farce in the fact it won't find anything other than the IP's and Computer connections criminals have STOLEN and the innocents will go through hell trying to prove it.

Way to go politicians!!! You should really hire people with the right skills to help you create laws.

wildricepaper
said

Where are the 27,705 who chose Vic Toews to represent them and their values to all Canada?

They owe it to themselves
- and to all Canada
to openly and clearly repudiate
the Dishonourable Vic Toews.

Having been duped on May 2, 2011 into letting the fox into the hen-house they could now, for our rights and freedoms,
'stand on guard'?

A candle-light vigil outside his office, perhaps?
And a Twitter recall referendum?

Just saying.




Michael Munro, Dekalake BC
said

Thank you Anonymous. You have my full support. Go get them.


Ted
said

I don't agree with the bill, but I don't agree with anonymous's tactics either. It's one thing to enforce existing laws. It's another thing to blackmail the person creating it.


Raymond
said

Personally, I find airport security protocols much more intrusive than this bill could ever be. So, like flying, if you don't like it, don't surf the web.


Anonymous
said

I would like to apologize to every Canadian for having voted conservatives... a mistake I'll never make again.


Ropbert in Beaconsfield
said

Remember this?"The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police is of the firm opinion that a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms enshrined in a Constitution is neither necessary nor desirable" -- Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, at the Senate/House of Commons Special Joint Committee on the Constitution of Canada on Nov. 27, 1980. ..........Now why in the world would I accept anything the CAPC has to say on the matter of Bill C-30 when this organization publicly tried to prevent Canadians from enshrining their Rights and Freedoms in the constitution?The Police have no business commenting on political matters nor any role in determining what rights we have or don't have.


Josh
said

MiachelWill there be a movement to have a true democratic system i hope so but what those on the far left and the far right have to keep in mind is it has to apply to all sides to many times each side plays down the other side take in ont not the past election but the one before dalton won a majority those on the far left were fine with it yet they are all wound up when harper wins my point is it has to apply to all.


Ron Landry
said

Hey Vic, how hard is it to catch the preying pedophiles? Not too hard as young heros in the Vancouver area were exposing them in McDonalds (safe area) with simple chat rooms and setting up meetings. Get a grip, all this bill is for is so government can spy on anyone who exposes government corruption. It is the last voice of freedom of speech and you and the clandestine Americans just want to shut up the people who are exposing the good old boys in parliament.


Josh
said

Anonymous Yes people should be allowed to do what they want within the law but when people start breaking laws etc sorry no you should not be able to commit illegal acts.


jjaycee
said

I do not believe this is happening in our country! Yes everyone has the right to voice their opinion. Yes, this can be resolved in a civilized discussion, and consences. Threats of violence can only lead to anarchy.You will be exposed and you will receive justice under the Laws of Canada. You do not respresent freedom of expression, and you do not represent the people of Canada.


joe
said

vic toews wanted a cyber war looks like he got one, orwell was right 1984 is coming true unless this bill is crushed


Josh
said

Dustin Ellis The internet is not a right and the idea of a internet protection act would be worse then this bill.


Marlin
said

What is the matter with you people? You openly support threats against an elected member of parliament? I guess I see why Law Enforcement supports the bill. As for those discussing majority. Harper might only have received 40 percent of the vote but last I checked that was still more than the next party. It's embarrassing to read the comments to this story. It seems our education dollars are a waste as so few are capable of forming actual constructive ideas. Instead they simply spout hate. I was against this bill but all the hate and anger suggests to me I best support it. To many anonymous lunatics.


mikel
said

Are these the kind of idiots that you will hang your protest on?


TheLaughingMan
said

Vic Toews should be banished from Canada!


Kurt S
said

I can assure you people that think this 'Anonymous' is only one guy or a just small group are grossly misinformed. They have been around as long as the internet has and this is merely a way for them to let the people up in Ottawa know how angry people are about this bill. As for the people saying 'if anyone is opposed this bill then they obviously have something to hide'. Well, yeah! Personal information! The whole reason people buy security software for their computers is to prevent this very thing from happening! This bill is very close to making that virtually legal for the government. In charge or not, they do not need that much power over anyone.


wallybob
said

Anyone against this bill is suspect in my book if your doing nothing wrong, going nowhere bad, nothing to fear. This group or whoever should be charged with extortion and shut down.


James, Ontario
said

Still waiting for the TSX to go down. Anonymous is an impotent bunch of fools; a few children that stumbled across a suit of typical hacking tools that anyone could use.


Esther Law
said

"Anonymous" is both cowardly and hypocritical. He is cowardly because he will not put his name or face to his words. He is hypocritical because he wants his privacy but won't give it to others. "Anonymous" is NO champion of mine. If you want to uphold all that is Canadian, then engage in public, mature debate. Don't make childish threats behind a silly mask.


Ron
said

I would not be surprised if the Cons did this crap themselves to draw attention away from an incompetent and misleading minister/And bad legislation


Friendly Policeman
said

What's the matter, citizen? You seem awfully upset. Does something about my awesome new powers trouble you?

Please list your grievences here. Click the "Please Add Comments" link above -- but don't worry about the "real name" & email stuff. That doesn't matter anymore.

See, if I don't like a comment I read here, I can connect the dots between this site and the comment's author without asking anybody for permission.

But that shouldn't affect what *you* write -- you're entitled to your opnion; you've got nothing to hide; it's a free country, after all.


ruth
said

Everyone seems to be missing the point that Anonymous's message contains a large dallop of humor. Their threats are prankster stuff, not death threats.

These so-called death threats remind me of the Harris administration in Ontario, when one of his ministers, during an altercation with a protester, threw himself backwards into a bush and claimed the protester had attacked him. Luckily someone caught the event on video.


mark
said

The only difference between Anonymous and the Police is if this law passes, the police will be allowed to do the same thing, within the law.Good for Anonymous.


mike
said

To Mr. Police - any policeman - People don't want this bill. We can evaluate the pros and cons, and this one is full of Cons. Less state and police intervention, not more.


Guy Souriant
said

Keep in mind that during the last election, someone leaked confidential police files on Jack Layton to the press during an election campaign.

If the police could leak records on Jack, they can leak records on anyone they want to destroy.

It's dangerous to give any police squad or government the power to suppress it's political opponents. Toews using the police to carry out his personal political vendetta against Anonymous (who have done nothing illegal) is but one example.


General Zod
said

There are way to many conspiracy nuts and Orwellian fear mongers on these threads. Canada is one of the most free countries in the World, if not the most free. Infact our freedom is so taken for granted that you act as if there are not times when it is appropriate to fall into line. Even if the technology exists to mask ones identity online, the Government has to do something. The Internet is now the safest place for criminals and it houses the activity of Child Pornographers, Organized Crime, Terrorists, Drug Dealers and other low lifes. This man does not deserve death threats.


J Bergeron
said

We are slowly but surely going towards totalitarism. Think of this:- 1 surveillance cam per 15 people- x-rays equipment in airports- you can't have a job if you don't have a bank account- you can't own a cell phone without having full IDs- facebook keeps track of people - need a passport to go to the US from Canada- internet conversations tracked without a warrant by the police if they have the slightest doubt that you might be a sexual predator..- you can't have a bank account without having an addressand after that they say that we're the land of the free?soon enough the state will check our cavities to make sure we sure we don't hide anything.but hey you shouldn't care if you have nothing to hide right? loooooool


The Central Scrutinizer
said

All of you people that decry the actions of Anonymous & feel that Bill C-30 is necessary should give their heads a shake. Anonymous is only doing wht Canadians can no longer do for themselves...provide democracy. In spite of wht we are led to believe, Canada has not had a democratic government in many, many decades. It's not democracy when no matter who gets in, the results are exactly the same. This government has been a disappointment from the beginning. They appear to work for the multinational corporations, rather than the Canadian people. If this is what you want, then you are welcome to the results...you will be nothing more than sheep in the eyes of your government, to be used as long as possible, then discarded as soon as your usefulness is over. You will get nothing from this use beyond minimal survival, except possibly the satisfaction in knowing you have added a modicum of riches to someone who already has more riches than they could ever use. A fine legacy to show for your life as a domestic animal, no? As ye sow, so shall ye reap.


Exactitude
said

Ex-Conservative supporter wrote:
The conservatives are out of touch with Canadians.
This new Vic Toews law will trump all those privacy settings you set for yourself on the internet. You will have no privacy.

It can be said anyone who expects to be able to put disgusting comments and photos on the internet and not have them public is very mistaken.
There is no room for porno and smut purveyors in our country. Bill C-30 is what is needed to counter-act those who want freedom to spread perversion.



Tempower
said

If this bill was all about child pornographers there should be no problem with things as they are. If someone is suspected of child pornography then then the police go to a judge and get a warrant. The judge is the one who decides if there are grounds and is also the one who protects our privacy rights. He knows the law better than the police and he is responsible for his decisions. If this bill passes then there is little control over what or why citizens get monitored. There will be lots of room for "Who done it" and "not me" if it is abused. Leave things as they are and make the punishment for the crime so severe it will actually be a deterrent. There are clearly other reasons for this bill that Harper doesn't want us to know.


SC
said

This act is to protect children. As for hackers if I find you, you wish you had an act to protect you!


pro C-30
said

For all those who are in favour of this bill because they "have nothing to hide"..and they are fine with the goverment/police/interested parties accessing their facebook and emails..etc. You should have no problem, so send me your facebook password so I can SNOOP!email it to me at: you're-an-idiot@hotmail.com


M.Montreal
said

I think the point that The hacker group Anonymous is trying to show, is that internet files that are personal and we think are private, can be hacked and then distributed on the web for all to see. I may have nothing to hide, but they are still my private files, and I think the police needs a warrent to look at files and use them in court.


Johnny
said

Not sure how calling the police will help find who is behind Anonymous. They've taken down so many websites, including the FBI and Department of Justice and the best in the US haven't figured out who they are yet.


WildWest
said

Groups such as "Anonymous" are such a bunch of Yellow Cowards. What a person or group does or says Anonymously carries absoltely Zero Credibility.But Bullies like them can definitely be scary.


Siero
said

@Saskroughian

Then let them get a warrant. It's an invasion of my privacy to have my internet history recorded it isn't about what I have to hide but it is about me having to give up right to privacy. If this passes they could take efforts to taking away more of our rights in an effort to screen the population for the minority of offenders who do exist.

In fact these groups who actual do have things to hide KNOW how to hide them. Keeping a track of a persons internet record is absolutely useless against anyone who knows a thing about computers. Covering your tracks through multiple proxies or other methods will completely defeat any attempt at monitoring them.


Well,...
said

The problem with the bill is that every law biding internet user with foot the cost of having service providers with the extra hardware and data base. There are other ways of doing what this bill hopes to do, but like all thing in gov, it's the hidden agenda this bill is really being pushed through that has normal people worried


private
said

There are Hackers out there going after child pornographers PC's and launching attacks. Do not under estimate us. We are all on the same team.We do not like our privacy being violated.


Says I - Ottawa
said

Strange that "Anonymous" wants the Government to be transparent and they remain anonymous..such hypocrisy to say the least.


DJ Evans
said

"aiding police in the course of their duties" I dont have a problem with, especially if its regarding child porn. BUT we all know how the police are and how they can twist anything to get a reason to invade a persons privacy or arrest them for no reason. And that I am against.


Guy Souriant
said

Where's the violent threat? The Anonymous group is merely publicizing publicly available information on Vic Toews, information that the mainstream conservative press is choosing not to publish. It is not private. It is not illegal. It is not violent. It is personal, but that makes these actions sleazy, not illegal.

Vic Toews is now using law enforcement to investigate this activity. He is using the police to settle personal political scores with the Anonymous group. It's an abuse of power that pretty much underscores the types of rights violations that a government with too many police powers easily commits without the proper checks and balances.

What Anonymous is doing is not nice and may be sleazy, but it is no different than the Conservative press releasing information on Jack Layton's run in with police at a massage parlor. There's a double standard in the Conservative press that's very disturbing in this matter.






Paul
said

An illegal hacker group is firing off threats about the new bill. All the proof I need to believe the bill is needed.


Elizabeth
said

I don't agree with this bill, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to make death threats to Vic. He doesn't deserve threats, it's wrong and really childish. We have the freedom of speech in Canada but that doesn't mean we get to bring defamation to their name. Grow up people! Figure out a way to stop the bill legally, morally and ethically.


Dan
said

Can't wait to see what they have on him!


Tim
said

If only the police were the ones looking at the infomation, Bill. From what I've been reading, ANYONE the minister permits can look at the information gathered. Companies, his friends, his wife, anyone. I could (possibly, eventually) learn to trust the police with the information, but whoever the minister feels like showing it to? Not a chance.


Leaving Saskatchewan
said

Vic sorely deserves everything he gets.
Harper is the one really responsible, Mr Control Freak always knows the contents of the bills they are pushing, this one was very carefully crafted over many months.

This bill is dangerous, giving up rights we paid for in bloody wars in the last century.

This bill must be withdrawn and never reintroduced.

What we really need is some legislation to protect our internet and our rights. There is a reason we have the warrant system in place.



Really?
said

Who should fear this bill? All Canadians that value the constitution, freedom and civil liberty should be afraid of this bill. It reduces the protection of you and your identity to zero. It will escalate. Follow these acts through to conclusion and you will see. Its not the specific bill but the line it crosses in its efforts. Those that do not see this need to open their eyes and see the reality of our federal government. This is a big step for Harper. Here's a reminder that he has been doing this since he gained office. The first was by muzzling the press. Those that published unflattering articles on the cons were not allowed back into media scrums. many haven't returned while those that did are not impotent to publish what they really want to for fear of exclusion from government access. THIS IS THE LINE! THE CONS CROSSED IT!


Tilbury golfer
said

Saskroughian you asked for an example. Herewith I present one for your consideration. This bill allows the government of the time to appoint anyone to track your online correspondence/usage. If that neighbour you pissed off last week is an appointee you could quickly find yourself on the no fly list if you made a comment online about being held up at an airport security check. You complained therefore you are anti-security and a risk.


Brandon
said

The government had good intentions with this bill you can't deny that. Unfortunately they did not go about the best way to handle the issue they wanted to tackle. This is not like the bills in the states which are designed to help only Hollywood artists make money. This bill was designed to after child pornographers but the strength pf the bill should be reigned in. As for anonymous they have now gone to the level of terrorists, issuing threats and making demands targeted to specific individuals. Like the government they had good intentions but themselves have overstepped what their limits should have been.


Chris Bennett
said

If you think only criminals have something to fear about this Bill, and not average Canadians, you are dead wrong, Environmentalists, Political activists of all sorts and others have reason to fear it as well. Considering how the Harper government is willing to paint anyone who they oppose as an enemy of Canada.


Exactitude
said

Ex-Conservative supporter wrote:
The conservatives are out of touch with Canadians.
This new Vic Toews law will trump all those privacy settings you set for yourself on the internet. You will have no privacy.

It can be said anyone who expects to be able to put disgusting comments and photos on the internet and not have them public is very mistaken.
There is no room for porno and smut purveyors in our country. Bill C-30 is what is needed to counter-act those who want freedom to spread perversion.



JIM
said

I totally disagree with this Bill and I surely hope it wont pass.

I do not have anything to hide but I do not accept that anyone that feel like it can snoop through what I do on the internet or would have access to my GPS for tracking purpose, this is well beyond what a cops need to do his job.

I do not trust all police officers, very sorry but that's the way it is.

There is corruption everywhere and that includes Police.

This Conservative government is destroying our country, take a stand!


Cody
said

This bill makes me sick. I am a current Conservative supporter, but I will never vote for them again if this even comes close to passing...


mike
said

Seems to me that a lot of people with these comments have a lot to hide. If you have nothing to hide then why fear this bill? You dont think that the government has been checking up on you in the past, think again. The only one to fear is fear itself.


James
said

@Saskroughian: The problem is that anyone with a modicum of technological knowledge can easily get around the Orwellian surveillance proposed by this bill. How's that you ask? Google Tor; it's used by people in fascist police states like China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and now Harper's Canada to ensure that the government cannot monitor you online. That's just one of the many proxies that are currently available. Anonymous knows this, the kiddie porn freaks know this, and the terrorists know this; these are Darwinian pursuits and so the people who haven't been caught are quite good at hiding. The only people who will actually be monitored under this bill are Grandma and Grandpa because they're too out of touch to know any better. Ironically these are the same people who think this bill is a good idea so it serves them right I guess.


morvin
said

So the police want "Canadians as a whole will take the time to view the legislation through the lens of law enforcement."

Well Mr. Policeman, we did look at the legislation through the eyes of law enforcement and that's why we're afraid. Very afraid and vehemently opposed to it.

I suggest you take the time to view the legislation through the lens of a law-abiding Canadian who does not want his country to slowly become a police state.

R.StPierre
said

Canada is not a POLICE STATE.I do not trust our government and they should stay out of our private life. Any organization that infiltrate our privacy is anti - Canadian. We already are watched by Big Brother. Enough is enough. The "Police" should police our streets, arrest criminals and rescue cats and little old ladies.


Anonymous
said

For all rights haters!!!

LOL you people who say your supportive of this bill should kill their internet now! It makes me sick, the stupidity of who think they know the net. We should be free to do what we want!!! We do live in North America and if we are going communist this is where it starts!!!

We all love Anonymous!!!


Saskroughian
said

Who should fear this bill?

Anonymous should fear it, it could reveal their identity. ChildPornDogs should fear it. Organizers of terrorist plots should fear it.

Joe Average who earns his pay, pays his taxes, vacations in Mexico, and has a mortgage should not really care. The worst thing he might get busted on is what websites he occasionally trips across while surfing the web, which could include porn or other things that a politician would not want to be public.

Please give an example of somebody legit that should fear this? Regardless, they'll peep in anyway by getting a warrant, if you're of interest to them.


Bill in Windsor
said

This legislation asks Canadians to give up rights to privacy in return for the assurance that police will only use these additional powers against criminals. We are being asked to TRUST that police will only do the right thing. When innocent civilians were rounded up during the G20 in Toronto, I was in Germany touring a concentration camp and reading how the political climate in Germany lead to the murder and abuse of millions of people. The parallels were scary. When we see innocent people tasered or pepper sprayed by the same group we are being asked to TRUST to do the right thing, I say NO. We are slowly giving up more and more rights, having justice administered by police rather than the courts. It needs to stop.


MD
said

This bill is unequivocally a Big Brother type of surveillance system. I for one refuse to give up a little freedom for a little security. Damn this bill, contact your MPs and voice opposition, do NOT sit on the sidelines and expect others to do the work for you; they won't.


Noneofyourbusiness
said

It's amazing how your privacy is not an issue but his is of paramount importance. Ahh conservatives, they make me laugh.


jack
said

I no longer live in the best country in the world. How sad. Harper and his band of misfits has transformed my country from a source of pride into an embarrassment. I shake my head in disgust.


Robert777
said

you people make me laugh, and some of you are hypocrites. Yes this bill must be defeated in its present form, I agree. But you people pick and chose what is right and wrong depending on what government brought what bill. Bill C-68 of Gun Control under Alan Rock was the most anti-privacy law there ever was invented. This law, still in effect today, provides the police with powers of search and seizure without warrants. Any law abidding gun owner can have the police come to his property without a warrant and search the property in question. The police can seize whatever they like without a warrant or compensation. You Liberal supporters make me laugh. You think that it is OK to hassle law abidding gun owners and seize their property without compensation. Oh but please don't have the Conservative government violate my privacy while I am surfing the web. If this was a Liberal government proposing this bill, half of you on this forum would not be even mumbling about this bill.Yes defeat this bill in its present form. I agree, but also repeal C-68 of Gun Control too. All anti-democratic and anti privacy laws should be repealed. But please don't pick and chose, based on your political stripes. Otherwise you folks look like hypocrites.


phil klisma
said

each and every one of you has the ability to make your internet activities untracable RIGHT NOW!
every computer can be configured arbitrarily to look like anything you want, and its very simple! this bill is a knee jerk response from a sorely uneducated fossil in regard to tracking criminals. Now lets assume rationally this bill is about building a database of ISP connections and associated activities, then its all about surveillance. it will lead to a highly inaccurate data base as no one can guarantee that you are the only one on your internet connection EVER! the internet as it exists must be abolished if internet crime is to be stopped. WIFI must be made illegal, and all hardware destroyed, all hotspots at timmys or micky Ds must be removed, and computers must be banned and replaced by dumb terminals that remotely control a government approved server to access the internet. I will be submitting my resume for I.T. consultant to the conservative govt tomorrow morning


Mark C
said

It amazes me that people think it is OK for people like Vic Toews, Harper and Nicholson to destroy the lives of young people in this country, uncontrolably polute and bully all those who oppose them(think of our scientific community) and not be held to account. If parliament is not capable of reigning in these guys then that just leaves - we the people.


PBW
said

I am SO pleased to see so much support here for Anonymous, a criminal hacker group that is threatening action against a properly elected minister of the crown. We need more of these threats against our democratically elected government. There is nothing like the threat of terrorism, whether using bombs or digital attacks ensure our democracy. And if you think the above is serious, think twice and consider how this group plans to attack the structure of our government. And people call Harper a dictator!


Headshakin
said

@Frank How will a Charter challenge be mounted when one of the provisions of the bill is that no one can tell you you're being snooped on? @Steve Hoe can there be logic in a bill when there has been zero rationale presented for why it is needed above and beyond the laws already in place.@Marg I suspect the Bill has nothing to do with child predators and more to do with monitoring and chilling political opposition and sucking up to the large US movie and record company copyright interests.


peter in mb
said

Bill C-30 has gone to committee for review and the committee can amend it. So every one just relax especially all you conservative haters. Steve in Ottawa makes a good point in his post, the liberal government has imposed itself into our freedoms. Bill C-68 The long gun registry targeted law abiding citizens and not criminals. The Census long form! And the child support bill that is un fair to men! All created by incompetent former Justas minister named Allen Rock. Bill C-30 targets Cyber Crime and the criminals who use the internet to commit a crime. It just needs some fine tuning. Finally for all you people out there quoting the charter of right and freedoms about your freedoms of speech! Read the section called eLimitations on your rights!f what you say to someone online is the same as if you said it in person and you are accountable for it!!!


Balbeer
said

Mr Toews is a bad man!


MarkC
said

The Harper bullies think they have a free ride because they have rendered the official opposition as impotent with a majority. What they have not considered is the direct power of the 60% or so of us that did not vote for him and a significant portion of those that did vote him who held their noses when they did. People are not going to sit idly by while Harper and his cronies trample over our basic rights. We will only stand for dumbed down, unscientific governance for so long.


charles regina
said

Go Anonymous!! Hackers don't kill people - they make them wish they were by publishing private information about them!!


Josh
said

Dustin Ellis
First you don't have a right to access the internet second as there should be a internet protection act keep in mind that would mean people could post anything hey wanted truth or not this would hurt the avg joe more then anyone.


bobster
said

Comparing the elected government to the nazi gestapo? Please. I dont agree with this bill either however I dont think there will be jackboots kicking down our doors either. Why dont tone down the rhetoric, take a deep breath, and step away from the computer. This is Canada, not Nazi Germany.


Tilbury golfer
said

I am appalled at CTV coverage of this affiar. I actually found myself checking to make sure I had not tuned in to Sun "News" by mistake.


Jack
said

Vic Toews is getting what he deserves for tabling a legislation that destroy Canadians privacy. I hope that Anonymous exposes his dirty little secrets. Then he would know what he was about to do to the rest of Canada. Then he might actually respect what privacy actually means once he loses it.


Rick in Hat
said

Mean while, while most of you are screaming about your constitutional rights. There are infants and children being abused, verbally, mentally and physically. All under the umbrella of sexual abuse. The predator is laughing at those opposed to this act. Their probably anding their own comments to help counter this act. Children, as young as babies, are being prayed upon. Screaming for our help. And all we can do is say, this is a violation of my rights to privacy. What about the rights of those childeren that we are standing in the way of and their rights? What hope does a child have without our support. Zero! And something else which I don't have room to get into. What about the people who have to investigate these horrific acts. Tell me they don't want to get to the bottom of these atrocities as soon as possible before their own psychological lives are effected.


Den
said

Lets see what else Anonymous has on VT. I sure it's a bit more disturbing then family court


MK in Hamilton
said

Obtain ad read George Orwell's 1984--this appears to be where we are going in this country.


RLOTT2K
said

Did I miss something? The supposed threat made to minister Toews is that this group is going to release some personal info?Thats it? Hey Vic if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about , right? I mean your either a child pornographer or your not! At least you made it sound that simple. Amazing how the "Threat" word is tossed around now that the shoe is on the other foot.


phil klisma
said

i find it deeply disturbing that a group of anarchal rebels regularly resorts to threatening the canadian government. As a democratic society we should have a government that is responsive to the will of the people, and the emergence of this rebellion is a symptom of a scuttled democracy in canada. stop referring to canada as a democracy, it is becoming some sort of neo fascist republic, i am now commited to opposing the canadian government, and deeply regret having served in the canadian armed forces commiting international crimes for the conservative party


Chandra
said

private family life of any member of parliament is subject to public scrutiny. Two affairs, child outside marriage concerns about payments etc. We need to know the kind of man we have in the employ of the government in an important position. Let people judge for themselves. Conservatives attacked Layton for being in a massage parlor etc just a few days before the election. So if they think it is something public should know the same standard should apply to themselves. They did not use the same principle themselves regarding disclosure of personal information.


peter in BC
said

Shades of the Reform party are bleeding through the shroud. The Conservatives with their majority (and their quest to become Canada's natural governing party) have lost touch with Canadians as a whole. I sincerely hope that their stop, re-evaluate their current direction with some of their proposed bills and bring it more in line with Canadians and their values. But looking back at the last election, didn't we all see this coming anyways?


Ken in NS
said

Not surprised with the level of personal attacks here and vitriolic abuse by both sides of the discussion. Anonymous postings seem to allow that these days! I am definitiely not a Con supporter and definitely not in favour of this Bill. It is in dire need of re-working for sure. However, I am not in support of the "hide behind the anonymous internet" attacks like the Minister is receiving and for that matter the make up of a great deal of the comments that occur on these discussion boards from all sides of late. Minister Toews is an elected official, like him or not. Sound reasoned feedback to our elected members will get heard, the personal attacks are not the type of Canadian response I think we need. Call your MP, send them emails, make a noise but do so respectfully. After all that is what we would expect for any one speaking to or about us....


Loki
said

I am in full agreement with Frank Buchan, Linda and Alberta Chris. Far more disturbing that a small group of people like Anon feel they can have any effect on legislation through threats. And yes - they are cowards. And many toilet comments here rather than using your democratic rights to get off your ass and get involved and work to influence change many just whine without offering constructive alternatives. Hmmm, sounds a lot like the Opposition (and that includes the conservatives when they are in that position too).


Victoria Bob
said

I find it more than a little ironical that a Hacker group finds it offensive that someone else (e.g.- the government) is considering "hacking".... what is that saying about the goose and the gander??


WilliamG Montreal
said

I can't find copies of his divorce papers anywhere on the internet, or pictures of the teenage babysitter or the illegitimate child.

C'mon internet, get with it. We need to see the full dirt!

Was the teenage babysitter at least hot?


Susan Tees
said

I'm all for anything that helps identify child-abusers. If you haven't got anything to hide, what's the big deal?


Frank
said

Hey! Here's an idea!
Let's make a computer and cellphone registry. A POL (Possession Only License)for keeping existing computers and cellphones and a PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) to be able to get more computers and cellphones. Oh man, I think I am having flashbacks! Help me Lowell!!!!!


Jarge From Krinklecove
said

Kill This Bill.
It is an object of control disguised as a means of protection and nothing more.
How can anyone feel this bill would lead to safety when we live in a flawed system, that any child with above average intelligence and boredom can find their way into most neighbors networks even now, step by step thanks to Youtube Videos and such. Not including the new door ways being found as we speak and this Bill would enable them to target you the innocent Citizen while the perpetrator exists nearby using your network unknowingly and now with all the open free networks being given any predator will use these access with their phones and Tops.
Are we willing to give up our freedoms so easily to a obvious flawed Bill?


Terry L
said

@ Holly in Wpg . Have you not been following the news in canada the last 2 weeks the police across Canada arrested over 100 people using their computers for child porn with out this bill and the safe guards allreaddy in place. with this bill if your child searches any of the key words that the government looks for then while doing a school project they will be able to just come to your house and take your computers and place you under arrest with out any warrant or going through the channels now in place to protect Canadians. your saying if we don't have anything to hide and against this bill places us in the same position as Vic places us. i don't want you or the government to know my banking or essays i search. you should go and rent the movie 1984 and see were we are heading. Book burning will be next as they show us how to think with out the government telling us what to read.


Carl
said

Am I the only one who sees the hysterical irony and hypocrisy in the fact that a group that demands complete transparency for everyone else calls itself "Anonymous"?


T
said

This bill, or even this type of bill should never be given the light of day. The idea that your personal information can be gained without a warrant is outright dangerous, and it should be the innocent people that have an Internet presence that should be worried more then the criminals. Fact, although a small number, not all law enforcement are 100% on the up and up. I had a friend once that was lead into an online conversion via a live chat with a 16 year old 3 provinces away. The 16 year old lied about her age, and a sexual conversation progressed. Long story short, he was arrested, picture plastered all over the news. Later he was found innocent, yet no media source retracted or printed any name clearing article about it. He has been labeled a predator, and it ruined his life and career. How many innocent people would this Bill 30 ruin? This is one of the most life altering of allegations to face, and you are ALWAYS guilty, even after you are proven innocent.


John Kilworthy
said

This is an invasive bill which in the end accomplishes little or nothing beyond bringing Canada one step closer to being a dictatorship.

Presently software freely exists to what you look at and what you say to others. Vic Teows and the Conservatives know this. If they don't they're asleep at the switch and the present public outcry just might wake them up.

Anybody with more that 10 brains cells just need google their way to TOR enabled software. TOR stands for The Onion Router, a network of encrypted routers set up to allow freedom lover peoples to go beyond their governments' attempts at censorship, control of information and coercion of citizenry.

Is the Conservative Government's next step the outlawing of TOR software and use thereof?



Kate
said

This is not the Canada I learned about when I was in school. It does bear a startling resemblance to the novel "1984". It is going to take years to undo all of this Conservative police-state mismanagement. I'm not anti-Conservative, I'm pro-Canada. This is not Canada.


bouzane
said

It's shameful how the dimwitted believe that if you oppose this fascist bill you support Anonymous. WOOT WOOT! Here comes the clue train, last stop you! I can be opposed to invasive government legislation without supporting criminal activities, even if the aforementioned activities will aid in eliminating this dangerous legislation. That being said, those who fail to oppose this legislation are a threat to our democratic process and should be deeply ashamed of themselves (even if they are not intelligent enough to be).


jay jameson
said

When I voted PC in the last election I don't remember "Police State" being part of the platform.

Canadians do not support Sopa, Pipa or and of these Toews laws either.

The PC party should start to act like they work for Canadian voters like me instead of furthering the interests Corporate America and destroying civil liberties that our veterans have died to create and promote.


Dealing with Annonymous
said

FYI... you really have to mess up big time to get this group out of bed and after you. Hey Vic, be careful!!!


Evan Tananbaum
said

I don't even think these reformers understand what all the opposition is about. In their minds, I believe, it is quite legitimate for the government to be able to carry out such level of surveillance of its people as part of its war on imaginary terrorists and radicals.


Stanton, Ontario
said

It is amazing to see the furor Mr.Toews had stirred up. In my mind sucharbitrary legistature could only be passed by a 2/3 majority in a national referendum. Phrase 'arbitrary measures' is right out of US Declaration of Independence.About 'hacker group anonymous', its behaviour benefits nooneexcept Bill C-30. Also, this ridiculous bill was tabled just as Harperis breaking relations wih US and Europe and selling out Canada to China.People, be wary! Next election is a long way off.


Mister C
said

There already is legislation to govern such legal requirements and this government particularly should not be given any additional powers to snoop in peoples affairs. It is total overkill to implement extreme measures on the total population when you are dealing with appx. 200 Canadians with criminal pornographic behaviours.


C Biluk
said

Even though I may agree with some parts of a cause does not mean I want the man stalked. He is still a private citizen, and although we wish to out people and blow whistles, due course and restraint must take their places as we move forward. This is not the solution anonymous


n.h
said

Unfortunatelly I agree with every comment ,the scum that are tracking down little kids well they deserve to be treated in a manner not fit to be discribed here, as for the actuall bill it self it is a piece very little thought with good intentions but considering the person who is trying to push for it didnt even take the time to read its contents what does it tell you about how much he actually believes in the crap that comes out of his mouth as such the best course of action is to write to your congress man/woman and tell them to oppose this bill


Joan in Real World
said

This bill goes further than simply allowing officers to obtain information without a warrant.. Section 34 makes it possible for any person designated by the government (inspectors, etc.) to enter the offices of an Internet service provier at any time, for any reason, and view or copy any information found on its servers and systems. Please read section 34, or google "milewski" and "big brother". It leads to an article that explains this section of the Act.


hagbard
said

Haha! Good! Hope they do it.


David
said

I support the ability for the police to go after criminals. It is a ruse to think the cops want to take away our rights. They are acting on my behalf to keep society free of these perverts and I applaud the measures this government is taking to go after them. The very fact Toews is threatened with his life suggests the kinds of idiots that are out there and why we need this legislation in place.


JD from Ontario
said

Legitimate threats should be taken seriously. We live in a very disturbed society and unfortunately that cannot be ignored. Let the RCMP investigate and protect the Minister as needed, but let our government protect the people it purports to serve too.


Nomad
said

All you people mad at anonymous, I ask why. Anon are just doing what C-30 will allow the government to do. If you support C-30 you support the actions of Anon. Your giving up your privacy if you support c30 and Vic should be comfortable with all this info about how he cheated on his wife with his young babysitter while she was underage. He should be first to give up his privacy.


George Carter
said

Anonymous are nothing more than a bunch in internet geeks who feel safe in their own "realm" and so much so that they having taken to that past time which they probably suffered endlessly themselves...bullying. How mature.


alan
said

Mr Toews, to show his soft and literary side, has clawed a quote from Yeats. Apart from making that great poet sound like a Hallmark card hack,the Minister has tried to persuade us that he actually has a brain. We are not fooled.


Cons better listen
said

It's good to know that the origin of "Vikileaks" came from Official Opposition IP address within Parliament. Now Vic knows that there is a lot of power backing "anonymous" so Vic better do what he is told to do or suffer the consequences.


dan
said

Vick Toews is a first class IDIOT .Period.The sad thing is that he is not alone in Harper's cabinet.


Ex-Conservative supporter
said

The conservatives are out of touch with Canadians. They are arrogant bullies trying to implement their private agendas. My dad fought for the Canadian army in WWII to defeat the Nazi Gestapo bullies. Now we have our own right here. This new VicToews law will trump all those privacy settings you set for yourself on the internet. You will have no privacy.


Frank Buchan
said

It amuses me that people here comment and suggest Anonymous is a group, when it is a loose association at best. Regardless of that though, and regardless of the bill itself, the idea a small group of quasi-anarchists (or whatever they want to be called) is attempting to extort a change in a democratically elected government should disturb us all far more than the contents of a weak,and generally harmless bill. (To those who claim to have read the bill, you really ought to, because it isn't as Draconian as some would project it; it's just ill-conceived -- and if abused it will fall on the first intelligent Charter challenge.)As for the idea that any elected official deserves death threats, or indirect character assassination, anyone who thinks that needs to look in the mirror for a day and ask what's wrong in their own thinking. There are right and wrong ways to tackle a problem, and extortion isn't one of them. God forbid the majority actually thinks this is even vaguely right, because if so we are in serious trouble as a society.


private
said

anon has nothing to do with Vic, Those documents were sent by some one within their own branch. There is no point for blaming anon.


Steve in Ottawa
said

For those people who believe this is the first time the government has imposed itself into our freedoms, think again. The long gun registry (Liberals), the Census and the best one, the child suppport (tables) legislation in 1997 (Liberals) under the guise of "protect the children". This legislation was truly intrusive to ones privacy. The logic behind this new bill C30 is sound however the drafting, application and explanation is totally flawed.


MARG MM
said

Whether you agree with the bill or not, there is no need for threats of any kind, and anyone who does it anonymously in a mask is indeed a coward. These "anonymous" people should stand up and voice their opinions openly. It looks like this contentious bill will be revamped, but in the world we now live in, many people put all kinds of "private" information out there for all to see without any thought as to who might see it.... Facebook comes to mind, yet if there is any legislation to help police track down child predators, suddenly everyone wants their privacy protected. I believe there must be a "happy medium" where the police get the tools they need, if there is suspicion of child pornography, to look further, but at the same time any extra information needed must come with a warrant. I really don't think that the police, the Government or anyone else has time to sift through millions upon millions of e-mails or internet use unless there is a specific reason, such as child pornography which is running rampant and putting innocent children at risk.


Linda
said

I'm with the person that suggested this legislation resembles a "prime turkey". I expect that originally the intent would have been to address a legal gap with respect to gathering evidence but apparently the Ruling Party needs to recognize they need to go back to the drawing board and craft a more precise instrument.
Anonymous scares me in quite a measure but I think their tactics are effective - we, the citizens of Canada, really need to be paying attention to this issue and let Steve and the boys know that this doesn't make sense to us - RECONSIDER!



MikeD
said

@Brian in Saskatchewan

These kinds threats show how useless this bill is. It will only catch the less technically skillful.


Alberta Chris
said

Support the bill or don't support it - I don't care, but I am disgusted by the personal visceral comments by posters. Really? Funny how a mob mentality enables people. If you don't like the bill, and feel that your personal freedoms will be affected, then PLEASE offer an educated solution without the media induced panic. Seriously. And no I'm not a NeoCon. I don't even know what that means. I'm just a reader who prefers not to read toilet comments from fellow Canadians.


The Central Scrutinizer
said

C'mon Mr Toews, admit it, you didn't even read the entire bill. This indicates an unacceptable level of incompetence, & you should recall your oath of office & do what is best for Canada & resign. Take your police state bill with you. Canada wants nothing to do with it. You have truly become "a joke in the eyes of the Internet".


Calgary Cowboy
said

The current regime in Canada no longer represents the people. It represents a right wing, social conservative ideology. I dare say say they see themselves as George Bush Republicans. Canadians don't want to fight in every war, we neither want nor need invasions of our privacy, most Canadians (and certainly the police) supported gun control. Most Canadians are against the seal hunt. Most Canadians and most of the oil industry is more open minded about the environment and the need to protect it than these embarrassing fools in Ottawa. The Harper regime (and it is no longer a government) is totally beholding to foreign and corporate interests. It shows more and more every day.


Paul
said

I have a saying,"There is a million ways of doing something, just don't pick one of the worst!"
I agree with Minister Toews that there is a clear need to better protect children and vulnerable Canadians from internet predators, but this is probably the worst way to go about it. I have faith in Canada and believe that the government will look closely into this bill and see that Hackers can easily hide anything they want from ISP's and government authorities. This bill will only get regular folks, busy families and do gooders who make a simple mistake or click the wrong link by accident; end up in a counter terrorism briefing report or a no fly list. I do still have faith in this government, that they will listen to Canada and target the true offenders while reducing privacy intrusion.




Holly in Wpg
said

It's clear those who have such opposition to this bill, have something to hide. If you are not doing anything illegal online then what is the problem simple as that! Internet usage is a privilege NOT a right. The government is not going to monitor every single Canadian just because they can, they will monitor those they suspect of criminal activity. I for one would rather the authorities have the ability to monitor criminal activity than protect Joe Blow's addiction to pornography or the fact that he's cheating on his wife. If this bill is at the expense of seeing some of my Facebook updates or emails so be it, I have nothing to hide!


Exactitude
said

There seems to be a very large group of people that have something to hide according to those who do not want this bill C-30. I wonder who the participants of Anonymous are and who controls it.
My question is: could it be a public broadcaster?


CamilleToews
said

Hopfully the RCMP have a few hackers of their own, who can track down these ' Anonymous ' creeps, and make an example of them.If they are opposed to tougher laws against the distribution of child porn, they are probably part of the problem.Freedom of speech is one thing- criminal behaviour is something else.


KPR in St. John''s
said

This is pretty embarrassing for the Minister. Anonymous is the lowest and most juvenile grade of internet harassment groups. The fact that they're slapping him around so easily only shows the lack of competence within our federal government.


Ken
said

I agree that parents need to monitor what their kids are doing on the Internet, but someone needs to monitor the perverts out their as well. After all, is there anything more important than our children's safety?


k
said

'Anonymous' are not only hypocrites demanding their version of accountability while at the same time refusing to be accountable; but show their fear of tightened legislation of the internet which might just impair their ability to operate with impunity. The Gov't has agreed to review this Bill yet the malicious attacks continue which leads me to believe Bill C-30 is being used as a conduit to accomplish something more nefarious. 'Anonymous' are trying to dictate how the Gov't does business and they want it done with a socialist bent. 'Anonymous' is an example of why there should be increased security on the internet.


Mrs. Edna Lickamaid
said

Anonymous please do something about all MPs ripping off Canadians with pension/medical plans and outlandish salaries living the high limousine life off of struggling Canadians living paycheck to paycheck. We need your voice to put them in their place so they can't get away with their thuggery they way they've been getting away with it for decades. I'm not afraid to speak out against them nor will I be bullied into shutting up by Mr. Toews and his thugs.


Ravi
said

I think Anonymous is a nuisance, just like the Occupy protestors. Anonymous is a bunch of terrorists that can't fight within the law, so they break every law to get what they want. I think it's time for them to butt-out and mind there own damn business!


Bob,Calgary,Alberta
said

It disturbs me to see how so many Canadians abhor the internet privacy bill yet are perfectly happy, even supportive, of a group like "anonymous" attempting to blackmail a duly elected Federal cabinet minister. It shows something of the ethical/moral compass of Canadians when criminal acts are condoned as long as they are aimed at someone they don't like. I don't particularly like Vic either but I certainly would never condone intimidation and threats as a way to get changes to the legislation. All Canadians should calm down and allow the Government and the Opposition to work in Committee to develop a proper internet security bill to protect privacy yet allow appropriate investigation of internet predators and child pornographers.


Ron
said

Why do you continue to publish threats from Anonymous?

Remember how they were going to bring oil sansd companies to their knees? oh right, that didn't happen.

They're in it for the PR. Not because they're a credible threat. Giving them headlines is fueling them... and its time you stopped.


Ray in Saskatoon
said

I agree with Brian from Sk. This kind of abuse by whatever group - Hackers anonymous in this case is only a ploy to try and embarrass our gov't officials to back off legislation we really need. Lets get on with it Mr. Toews.


Mrs. Edna Lickamaid
said

Anonymous please do something about all MPs ripping off Canadians with pension/medical plans and outlandish salaries living the high limousine life off of struggling Canadians living paycheck to paycheck. We need your voice to put them in their place so they can't get away with their thuggery they way they've been getting away with it for decades. I'm not afraid to speak out against them nor will I be bullied into shutting up by Mr. Toews and his thugs.


WSV
said

I'm surprised at the Conservatives for even getting into this situation in the first place. With all of the ACTA/SOPA protests in the EU and USA, injecting themselves into the fray when the worldwide public has already openly demonstrated opposition to internet controls and privacy invasion was not a smart thing to do. I don't condone threats made against particular people but at the same time, the public has made it's particularly clear on this issue. I haven't heard a single person or group present a case in the media that would support internet privacy infringement.


sash waterloo
said

You either stand with the majority of Canadians, who want to preserve freedom in this country.Or you stand for fascism with the Harper Government slowly closing the vice of control on its people. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL, please research it before you support it (TV doesnt count) go read it.


Bob
said

Kinda ironic that the kind of actions that Anonymous is using to threaten Toews is exactly the sort thing that Toews wants to make legal...


JohnInSask
said

If a federal minister is as utterly stupid as to say what Mr. Toews said in the House (you're with us, or with the child pornographers)... I'm gonna have to say "I'm with the group Anonymous in demanding his resignation".


Steve
said

Brian: no, they demonstrate how much the public DOES NOT WANT this kind of legislation.

We do not work for the government and they do not own us. We don't owe ANYONE access to our personal lives on that level.

My god, Canadians are sheep.


Harry Anslinger
said

If the current government was wise at all, they would kill the bill and have Mr. Toews resign to prevent further embarrassment. Nobody with an IQ over 80 would support this bill (if they read it anyways).


H.D. Schneider
said

It is utterly funny to me to read the comments left by them right wing supporters. Most of them don't even know Anonymous at all even though the group has been all over the news for more than a year. It just goes to show how ignorant they really are towards a reality most people share; daily life. Fascism is not welcome in Canada and after a year in a majority Government, the Cons have shown us that information is more a threat to them than firearms... Can anyone smell NSDAP?


bikerborz
said

A hacker group which uses the internet is making threats which are tantamount to blackmail, which is a criminal act.. Makes me wonder what this hacker group is hiding... obviously it can't be something good and innocent. And since the media exchange has blown this bill completely out of proportion (as is their wont), I begin to wonder if maybe this bill might not be a good thing. Otherwise, why the furor? There's always more than meets the eye... or the computer.


Tim
said

VT should apologize for his blunder and learn from this experience to show Canadians that he can become a competent minister.


Justin
said

Job well-done for Anonymous. They're the ones who brought darkness to light instead of media. Where are all the right journalists?


Vanc Guy
said

The militant left is far scarier than anything comiing from the right. Fanatical, welfare professional students of Ottawa U.


Murray in Ontario
said

Brian in Saskatchewan said "These kinds of anonymous on-line threats demonstrate very clearly the need for this legislation." That is not even close to logical. It would be very simple for the authorities to obtain a warrant for this kind of threat.... or any kind of online threat. Let me guess, you, like Toews, doesn't even know what this bill is really about!


Jmac503
said

For those of you who voted this "Harper Government" in; what did you expect? I do not consider myself anti-conservative, but I have recognized the danger of this particular group of yahoos since they conned (or rather, bribed) Peter MacKay to give up the PCs. This is just the tip of the iceberg -- these guys think because they have a majority they are going to do what they want. Canadians be damned!

Wait ... the RCMP are at my door ....They've found me!!! I'm going to jail 'cause Stevie and Vic don't like what I'm saying!!

Look to history and tell me I'm wrong.


enoughisenough
said

This and other contentious bills are reason enough to demand we have another election soon. The CONservative government is displaying what can only be described as Orwellian' tendencies.


bouzane
said

Any fool that trusts this legislation or the intent of the current administration is as naive as a child, ironic no? Toews is the embodiment of obtrusive nanny-state government which is anything but conservative. Few politicians disgust me as much as this 'man' but as low as he is, his mindless supporters are a far greater threat to our democracy.


Nate
said

Hey Vic, what's good for the goose is good for the gander right? You want all of our personal info to be public? Well let's just see what you've done in your own personal life.


Chris/Manitoba
said

Surely there must be just as many smart computer technicians working for the Govt. as work for this "terrorist" group that calls itself anonymous , I am willing to bet they have a reasonable idea as to who is behind some of the ridiculous claims they make.


gordie
said

how is reiterating public information in any way a problem? Just because a politician doesn't like it is exactly the reason why we can't allow this legislation.


NoContest
said

The Bill he's proposing is an affront to Canadians. Stop using the "it's to protect kids" line and call it what it is....the illegal surveillance of this countries Citizens. This will never pass and if it even comes close politicians need to start going to jail.


Burt
said

Brian in Saskatchewan, you must understand that these types of measures are not going to stop Anonymous and other such groups. These people know how to hide themsleves quite well. With the stuff they've managed to do in the past, they woul have been caught already if they didn't know how to hide very well. through lawful mesures.


lamorial
said

Serves Toews right! Any federal minister who doesn't know what HIS bill contains is an absolute disgrace. Makes one wonder just who is writing the bill .. certainly can't be Toews. As far as the bill goes, it's definitely overkill and Canadians should be concerned about this loss of rights.


Kel Lyons
said

Reap the whirlwind you created Vic... what were you thinking. Support this bill or stand with the child pornagraphers.... really Vic.... really. Bush used that technique to forward the 911 cause, remember, Either your with us or against us. Keep in mind this is all on the heels of legislation allowing cops,spies and whoever they grant the authority, too torture for info...just make some vague reference to national security and its all good. This goverment scares the chum right out of me...and I,m Conservative.


Shediac
said

Vic Toews has nothing to hide...right Vic, therefore Vic Toews has nothing to worry about!


Nia
said

The person who is threatening the Minister is a complete coward. The RCMP will do a thorough investigation and if someone is charged with a criminal offence I'm going to LMAO.


Says I - Ottawa
said

Gees and I thought it was only the Maple Leaf Fans who wore "bags" over their heads. A couple years back someone on line talked a young lady into taking her life so many who are against protecting the most vulnerable should speak to those who have lost a loved one to predators as such. The Government knows plenty about us through the Long Form Census and whatever else information they gather from information given to banks and so on. Yep it's scary but there are many of us who want protection the evidence is right in this article.


Dan
said

Threats communicated to a conservative minister hey , this sounds like beatniks vs.the establishment of the late fifties early sixties.


Billy in BC
said

The end result will move illegal activities further into darkness of encryption and anonymous technology. Warrant based tracking is more effective.
The conservative government is arrogant and naive pushing this though as a solution. Like putting out an oil fire with a hose.


steve, ottawa
said

this is just like the gun registry.
all the non criminals comply, and the criminals still can't be caught, we are left with the costs of loosing our own freedoms.
I miss the 1970's


jaxxy
said

This is exactly why we need this legislation! Threats of blackmail from displays the mentality of these idiots.


Les
said

I can hardly wait to see the dirt they've got on him


Les Ducak
said

Is this bill treathening the law abiding citizens of Canada, or is it treathening you, Anonimous COWARDS, who think your mandate is to destroy the legitimately elected Democratic gouvernment of a democratic country?


frank
said

I can't believe all the Lefties being so happy this is happening to Mr. Toews.

If the SAME threat happened to a Liberal or a NDP member, ALL of you lefties would DEMAND a RCMP probe into this, and to have these hackers thrown in jail.

Unbelievable how the left is such HYPOCRITES in all of this.


mrmarky
said

@brian in saskatchewan This law will do nothing to stop people like anonymous. They know how to cover their tracks as do other criminals. Its not hard to route your online activity through a VPN service to prevent your internet use from being tracked. This law is completely useless at tracking real criminals and will just invade the privacy of honest working Canadians.


KnightOrDay
said

Now that's just ridiculous! The fact that this bill is an ill-conceived idea, and Minister Toews needs to retract and rethink it does not give ANYONE the right to threaten him. As Canadians, we have a strong voice in our government, through email, letters, and phone calls, and those are the proper tools to use to redress issues, not cyber-terrorist threats. I agreed with Anonymous when they protested the arbitrary arrest and extradition of Julian Assange, and other causes, but this is inappropriate!
Minister Toews has been awoken to the displeasure of the Canadian public over Bill C-30, we do not need external bullying.


Steve O
said

In his letter Toews went on to call the personal attacks against him futile, because they are based on records from his divorce proceedings, which are open to the public. I don't see how posting information that is already public can be called an attack. Vic wants to ram this bill down our throats and he doesn't even know what it says or what it's consequences might be. Parents are the ones that should be monitoring their kids activity on the internet and people that get scammed need to educate themselves. My tax dollars shouldn't be going to pay for baby sitting someone else's kids or should they be used to protect people that do not educate themselves. Talk about a nanny state. Towes needs to resign, he called use all child pornography supporters and he doesn't even know what's in the law he's pushing.


conductor274
said

You reap what you sow Mr Minister.


Lone Ranger - Ottawa
said

One would have to think that this "masked man" has a lot to hide using all these threats..hopefully he will be caught and the sooner the better. To think there are people out there in Canada is a threat to "all Canadians" the old saying those who think they are smart..aren't for thinking they are, so something soon will come to a head one can only hope and this "masked man" gets caught.


bigpianoguy
said

I can't comment, for fear of the RCMP showing up at my door; welcome to Burma...


Dustin Ellis
said

What we need is a legislation to prevent the Government from taking away our internet rights. Here one of the first drafted proposed ideas. I want to see the people write a bill that the government has to pass.Freedoms of Internet and Information Act4 seconds agoMy Proposed Bill Petition Privacy Of Internet User1) "Privacy of Information" ;"Personal Data" ; "Personal Information"; to be private, being protected without search and seizure, accessed or duplicated; without a warrant up to including copyright legislation as to be Protected under the Charter Of Rights and Freedoms.


Markus
said

It's time for Mr. Toews to drop the bill. Nobody wants this piece of crap!


Jim-Surrey
said

No need to threaten after he sees his personal info was obtainable maybe he will re-think what he is trying to do with this bill. It isn't a matter of whether or not you have done something wrong to be against it. The problem is they can still snoop even if you are an honest internet user!!!!!!!!!!!


Niagara George
said

This kind of action is not helping the effort to keep Canadians free, but it does let Toews know how upset people are. And imagine, he claimed to not even know what was in the bill. The sad truth is, he probably didn't know what was in it. King Steve gave it to him and said, "Our surveys say this will get us some votes. You can say it is all your idea. Now get it passed!" Away Vic went, mindlessly doing the master's bidding.


Spare Me
said

Funny. Another story centering on threats (criminal and otherwise) made against a federal Minister (and his family). Naturally, of course, the lefties and anti-Conservatives, in their perpetual infantile nastiness, political spite, and ideological vengeance (they often instantly resort to pointed personal attacks, temper tantrums, and acts of mindless vandalism and violence to express their angry displeasure), can only bark about Bill C-30 like yard dogs. Yes; it's a fundamentally flawed piece of legislation. It requires amendment. Fine. Protest the Bill itself, specifically. (I cannot think of a single governing party in Ottawa that didn't throw at least a couple prime turkeys on the table during their parliamentary reign.) However, the politically depraved notion that a serving cabinet member "deserves" personal (including criminal) threats against him/her (and his/her family) shows how pathetically low lefties and anti-Conservatives readily sink. For them, it seems, anything goes, and anything can be justified. Such childish hypocrites. All because a Minister mistakenly used a "with us or against us" argumentative retort in the House. (Perhaps Toews should have simply yelled that certain folk were pieces of sh**t, like an "honorable" MP in the Liberal party did.)


Email your MP
said

With all the public opposition to this bill, Toews is only demonstrating the future path of this government - making decisions and imposing controls over society without considering the public's opinion. This goverment is setting a combative precedent with it's citizens. It is not only Toews, but the entire party's responsibility if this bill passes. They are defiant and stubborn towards the citizens who voted them in. Email your local conservative MP.


Mark
said

Vic should give up. Hackers are redicously skilled at what they do and there is no way they will get caught. The internet privacy bill is at best garbage. Yes, we need to protect children, but the rest of the bill is just another "Big Brother" attempt to control what citizens do.


CoreyAlberta
said

its good to know anonymous didnt forget about canada. God bless them. this bill makes me sick to my stomach. good to know patriots with new and exciting methods can still make a difference.


Brian in Saskatchewan
said

These kinds of anonymous on-line threats demonstrate very clearly the need for this legislation.


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