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Four B.C. former attorneys general call for end to pot ban

A Feb. 10, 2012 photo shows medical marijuana growing in a Matthew Huron owned grow house in Denver. (AP Photo/Ed Andrieski)
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It's about time the government realizes that stopping marijuana use is impossible and allow people to make their own decisions. This plant has many benefits aside from it's mind altering affects. Besides, what Canadian government is going to say no to increased tax revenue?

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Four B.C. former attorneys general call for end to pot ban

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Four B.C. former attorneys general call for end to pot ban

Date: Wednesday Feb. 15, 2012 7:12 AM ET

VANCOUVER — Four former B.C. attorneys general are calling for the legalization of marijuana, saying the current ban on pot is only fuelling gang violence and clogging the courts, but they're not getting any support from the province's current premier.

The four men, Colin Gabelmann, Ujjal Dosanjh, Graeme Bowbrick and Geoff Plant, who served in both NDP and Liberal governments in B.C., have written to Premier Christy Clark and NDP leader Adrian Dix encouraging them to work to overturn the prohibition of marijuana

They say the ban results in massive profits for organized crime, widespread gang violence, reduced community safety and escalating costs to taxpayers. They say instead of prohibition, governments should regulate the sale of marijuana as a public health issue and tax the sales, which would raise money for cash-strapped governments.

"It's time for our political leaders to accept and act on the overwhelming evidence linking marijuana prohibition to organized crime and gang violence," said Geoff Plant, who served as attorney general from 2001 to 2005.

"Punitive laws such as mandatory minimum sentences are clearly not the solution. Instead, taxation and regulation under a public health framework is the best way forward," he said in the letter.

"Alcohol prohibition did not work in the 1920s and 1930s and marijuana prohibition does not work today," said Gabelmann, who was attorney general from 1991 to 1995. "It's past time we overturned prohibition and addressed the related problems of gang violence, clogged court systems and the constant drain on the public purse."

However, Premier Christy Clark said she will not get involved in the marijuana debate.

"As a premier, I respect that former attorneys general have taken this stand, people who are outside of politics. But as a premier I'm going to leave this to the federal government," she said.

The letter by the attorneys general follows a report issued last December by a group called Stop the Violence BC, which also called for the legalization of pot.

The coalition of health, academic and justice experts said marijuana use is thriving, despite the millions of dollars that have been spent by police in Canada and the U.S. to control it.

"If the goal is to reduce the availability of marijuana, it's clearly been a dramatic failure," said Dr. Evan Wood, a founding member of the coalition and director at the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV-AIDS.

The coalition said new federal laws that include mandatory minimum sentences for pot possession are pushing policy in the wrong direction, when the government should be regulating and taxing cannabis under a comprehensive public health framework.

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Landro Lire
said

Marijuana isby far the largest percentage if income for bikers, leaving coke and heroin in the tiny percentage of income. Let them fight over those few scrapes.


Rosylyn
said

Marijuana can cure and prevent many cancers. They have known this since 1974. The phama companies do not want it legalized as there would be less need for their drugs and cut into their profits. Pharma companies were the ones who had it banned in the first place and their profit driven agenda has not changed. Marijuana would be a far genteeler way of treating cancers it is good for, then he methods used now. If I had a choice I would use Marijuana rather then what is used now. Imagine you cold keep your hair not get sicker to get cured and it doesn't destroy your immune system either. I am all for legalizing it.


Landro Lire
said

Christie says it's a Federal issue.Why isn't it, doesn't it gall under being a provincial health and waste of policing dollars mandate Christie?


liberty minded
said

I think the government should put all fat people in jail, force them onto diets and release them only after they've lost a certain amount of weight. That'll take care of the obesidy problem. Sound ridiculous? How's it any more ridiculous than putting people in jail for smoking pot? FYI - Obesidy kills more Canadians than marijuana.


Gilbert Hobart
said

When will our government do the responsible thing and take a 'smart-on-crime' approach instead of the current, ideologically based drug policy we are currently subjected to as Canadians? The C-10 and mandatory minimums are a joke - laughing in the face of violence. Listen to all of these high profile Canadians telling us how this is wrong and feeding criminal activity. Listen up Canada, it's time for change. Listen up Harper. Start being a real conservative and end this money sucking, tax grabbing and damaging policy of cannabis prohibition. Look at your own Senate report from 2002.


lizzz
said

I have known teachers, business men(rich) and many others who use marijuana on a regular basis. All function at normal levels. You would never even know they had used it that day. I had a father who was an alcoholic and I would much rather he had smoked weed instead of having violent outbursts from alcohol use. He drunk drove, hit someone. It was hell. Till finally the alcohol led to health problems which eventually killed him. I have seen longterm smokers..I am all for legalizing weed! I use neither alcohol nor drugs. People get physically hurt over bad weed deals...it's ridiculous!


Ben
said

CTV had an article on a British study done last year that said alcohol causes 3 times more harm than heroin or cocaine, pot is way down on the list with coffee. Some studies say that in the US alcohol is involved in 81% of homicides, 73% of felonies, 87% of wife beatings and 67% of child beatings. Health Canada's web site says you would have to eat or smoke 1500 pounds of marijuana in 15 minutes in order for it to be fatal, you can't eat or smoke 1500 pounds of anything in 15 minutes. Health Canada says that marijuana works better than other anti-depressants because it works immediately, prescription anti-depressants can take months to take effect. Booze was killing me pot was the anti depressant that stopped me from killing myself with booze. Weed never should have been illegal.


Ken
said

It only makes smart sense to legalize it. The Harper government say it will NEVER happen under his government ... easy fix, get rid of the Harper government. Why is it good to random drug test the military however we do not random drug test our politicians? By some of their actions and quotes, I'm sure many are on drugs. Canada soon to be a police state, no more privacy, it is a very Harper Reformed Party message he is sending all Canadians.


David J
said

Yes, Canada is a free country. That doesn't mean I'm free to walk down the street with a chainsaw, cutting people in half. A "free country" does not mean we can do whatever we want. I love the admission by several supporters that pot IS "mind-altering." However, the comparison to prescription psycho-active drugs -- taken under the advice and guidance of a physician -- is quite a stretch.


Dennis Johnson
said

It’s a copout for any politicians to say it’s up to the federal government to take care of this problem, when they know that they will just keep their heads up their a**’s. Thousands of Canadians such as my self who suffer from chronic pain could benefit for it’s use, I know your saying that we can get it from a doctors but the government has made it so that you have to take all the other drugs that have opiates (AKA heroin) in them first and then jump through hoop after hoop for a medication that works and is NOT a dangerous to begin with.And I would be more then happy to take the drug money out of the bad guy’s hands and use it to hire more police officers to make the streets safer or into the health care system to make it better. But the politicians know what’s best for use so I guess we should just keep filling the bad guy’s pocket because we know that they will put the money to good use.


Steve O
said

The nost dangerous dope in Canada these days is Harper himself. Grow your own dope, plant a Harper supporter. Weed should never have been illegal it doesn't cause the social problems that alcohol causes.


Peter
said

It's too obvious these four former political inmates don't understand the pot industry. We grow thousands of pounds of pot every year yet B.C. consumption is less than 10% of the crop. The rest goes SOUTH. The last I heard, there's not a state in the Union that is thinking about legalizing pot so again the perfect PROHIBITION scenario. It is just a photo op for these 4 has beens that, due to getting older, finally found out their names are no longer news.


Laurie
said

That is all we need, Canada full of pot heads with dead brains. Of course the people in favor of this are only those people. Only if it is legalized there will be a whole lot more of them. It amazes me that smoking plain cigarettes has become the new mortal sin, but smoking dope ...well that is ok...at least for the no brainer.


chris
said

to Albertan: Deadheads?? all pot users are deadheads? are u saying that people who use THC for pain relief when treating cancer cant get thru life without being high or pissed? THC helps those who suffer from chronic pain, gives people dying from cancer an appetite, so they can still nourish their bodies when all cancer treatments leave most patients with signifcant pain and weight loss. ur ignorance is not ur fault. its obviously the way you were raised so i feel sorry for you. too weak to learn the truth, only giving opinions that you were brainwashed with. someday, when cancer strikes you, you may have to eat your words. not fair to label all pot users as Deadheads. Especially from people who really know nothing about it in the first place.


gfinale
said

Some years ago the senate studied the decriminalization of marijuana. By the end, their recommendation was not only decriminalization but legalization! Here we have 4 attorneys general, count them 4 willing to come out in the open about what's right. We also have tons of intellectuals who most likely do not even use marijuana saying it should be legalized. Yet, the dopey politicians continue to ignore the facts as usual, led by Stephen Harper. He'd rather build bigger jails. Hopefully he's in one of them in the future. It seems everyone will be soon.


Devil's Advocate
said

Anyone advocating out current drug laws nees to do a LOT of research. I really mean it this time. A blogger mentioned pot as a mind-altering drug, while willfully glossing over ethanol, prozac, zoloft, atavan, (killed my mother) and thorazine. (given to children as well) Disgusting! Another blogger mentioned cocaine isnt making money for the cartels and the triads (coca grows in asia too) anymore. If that's the case, then why are they FILTHY STINKING RICH?! these people need to wise up and start thinking for themselves. There is a problem here but too many people are rich off of it (contra/Olly North scandal/Bush Sr. Panama) so change won't be coming anytime soon. Look up what some of the prescription anti-depressants I mentioned above or even childhood ADHD drugs are cut from. you will be shocked! Please spare me the hollow logic that pot is harmful. Some of us know better!


gordon_1866
said

Thousands of people fail to stop at red lights and stop signs -- clearly they aren't working. Turn the lights all green, tear down the stop signs and build more emergency rooms and funeral parlors. Thats the answer -- who needs laws


EducatedCanadian
said

For once we are seeing educated professionals who have far more experience in the matters of the drug trade to stand up and speak the truth. For all you who have commented on Marijuana being an evil and this story evil I challenge you to find one clinical document that states the ill affects of pot. In fact what you will find is this: it cures some forms of cancer, it has been shown to curb Alzheimer's, it is used by the medical community in pill form, it is not addictive, it is not a gateway drug, not one person has died from using it. Look for a study done in Jamaica that showed that babies born of mothers who used had hire intelligence, and advanced development. If legalized Marijuana was so bad for a society then explain Holland. You can't! So before you spout out fear mongering and false facts. Educate your self. By not educating, all you do is prove your a moron.


N
said

Sure, and while they're at it they can legalize guns because that's a thriving business. Let's just cave to everyones bad habits. How about selling pot at the street dog stands in Toronto? That will pay for the new subways! Why can't people go through life straight? Oh yah, the polititians are stressing us out! I get it.


jane
said

you know if the government was as smart as they say they are then my quetion to them is why is it you can legalize alcohal that Kills more people from drunk driving, over doses and gives us FASD, and yet Majuana just gives us the munches and we raid the fridge, i have never met a raging Marjuana user but alcohal that should be banned. Wake up government you spend too much money on nothing like programs that don't work, you have the tools to get out of debt but yet you look the other way hoping the problem will go away, but the plant has been here longer then man and yet we don't utalize it, now that government for you.


liberty minded
said

Canada is supposed to be a free country. If I want to smoke pot, or do any other drugs, I should have that right because I'm an adult and I'm not hurting anybody else. Maybe you need the government to act as your nanny, but I certainly don't.


Drugs are for losers
said

These AG's must be smoking the weed they are talking about. Society does not need another stimulant to cause even more social abuse issues. Just go after the foreign drug distributors who fly around in their own jets with their own gun toting thugs. Just give the police the powers to do their job and stop capitulating to these drug peddling cockroaches. These AG's need to give their collective heads a whack on the wall to wake them up to common sense.


James
said

I think leagalizing pot is long over due. The money that could be gained from taxing it would be enormous and could be used to bolster the education system, which sorely needs it as well as other social programs. I personally think that more people use pot than are willing to admit it. The money gained from leagalizing pot plus the relived burden on the leagal system should be more than enough incentive to strive for leagalization.


Wylie
said

The way the Harper government is headed it will soon be illegal to publish an article like this.


k
said

Legalizing marihuana will provide organized crime with yet another 'legal' venue to launder their criminal proceeds.


Alfred Thein
said

Ahhh.. Kevin, I knew I'd find someone using the typical fear mongering slippery slope argument. Its been used so many times before. Society didn't collapse after the creation and usage of novels, comics, alcohol, movies, games.. giving women the right to vote, civil rights.. etc.. every struggle in our society has been challenged by those in society who for their own reasons, use specious logic and fear mongering to apply their personal issues/preferences and vendettas to social policy.


T Brooks
said

Think how many job opprotunities this would open across Canada, and how many less people waisting time in the court systems,which leads to more taxes for those big bonuses that Hooper gov. feels they need so much!, when we have the majority of the population barely living poverty.sound like a no brainer to me?Big old win win for the gov. again.


Original Canadien
said

recreational use of drugs MUST be banned and prosecuted with extreme prejudice. There is no medical benefit to it - unlike alcool which does have health benefits (see French connundrum) AND a small amount (i.e. one drink, maybe two) does not impair someone like pot does.Pot may have pain relief benefits as well but when it is smoked, like cigarettes, it has carcinogenic properties. kind of an oxymoron isn't it? If pot really is that good, then make a pill out of it, like codeine which is processed into morphine which is controllable. recreational use has no place whatsoever and users should lose the "right" to decide for themselves since the brain DOES get damaged by such activity.


Howard in Brampton
said

I'm sure a lot of people cannot and some that perhaps will not understand the logic in the thinking of these former Attorney Generals. Perhaps it's the name or label if you will, that pot is described as a drug. Maybe they don't or won't understand that any intoxicant, including alcohol & tobacco can rightly be described as drugs also, both of which if unregulated would be inherently more dangerous for society as a whole than pot use is. The bottom line is that there's not a whole lot of votes in getting behind the legalization of marijuana, but there would be lots of tax dollars if it were regulated and taxed like we do alcohol and tobacco. Given that we hear about large provincial and federal deficits and the need for austere measures to balance budgets, perhaps the never ending desire for more tax revenue will be more of a push for legalization and regulation than losing a some votes.


Andrew
said

To Kevin: Between 15 and 20% of Canadians use pot according to a 2005 WHO report, but on about 1% use cocaine, so it is not the "slippery slope" you suggest. Organized crime cannot make the same profits off of cocaine that they can off of pot because it is not generally accepted by our society. It will always be a fringe drug. Also the police can use their freed up time to go hard after distributors of other drugs such as coke instead of wasting there time fighting pot.


DCI
said

TO Hollis You said, "Marijuana has been around for years ! " LOL Maybe, since the beginning of time. Did you know, that scientists found a frozen cave man; appprox., 1500 years old. He had a pouch with pot in it. Happy trails,hey?The world has a lot of cavemen and cavewoman. It was used then, and it will be used now and forever by manknid for what ever the reasons....


Mike
said

More and more people of influence are speaking in favour of ending marijuana prohibition. By the way, why do you think the alcohol and tobacco industries are the biggest funders of the war on drugs in the U.S.?


Caitlin
said

All I can say is, FINALLY! I think Kevin is going a bit too far, Cocaine is full of chemicals and can kill you. There has been ZERO deaths from the use of marijuana. But yet thousands die from the use of alcohol and cigarettes. Sorry sir, but your argument is invalid.


Mike
said

Just ask yourself this: If all drugs are legalized and everyone does them like people seem to fear. What's the real issue, the drugs or the reason the people are taking it in the first place?Oh well I'll just have a drink and a pack of cigarettes.


Travis (Barrhaven)
said

Premier Christy Clark is a rank twit.Rather than take control and end the rather idiotic prohibition, she prefers to take the easy way out, only to avoid pissing in anyone's coffee, and will let someone else - the feds - dictate what should be done.What is it about being premier of a province which causes them to be total idiots? She must be taking the same goofballs Premiere Dalton McGuinty takes.


jrayj
said

The shear insanity of these politicians and attorney's simply makes me wonder what planet they come from. So now they want a mind altering drug for all of B.C. residents, and of course it will attract all other brain dead loser's to flock there because it will be legal, and they think that will stop all the crime, wow this country really has gone to hell in a hand basket and I can't help but wonder what they will come up with next.


Grandma in B.C.
said

Sure, take our guns, keep us doped up, paying taxes, uneducated, sick and what have you got? Nobody who gives a damn any longer......thats just what our nation needs.....will be like back in th early bible days when a higher being had to come in and start things all over again to cleanup the mess man made for himself. And I am not religious! Always only think of yourselves and no one else.


pjmurphy
said

Legalisation of pot in BC alone would not stop the gang violence associated with it....Pot is mostly an exchange medium for the harder drugs that come up to Canada from the south....So to make this really effective against crime, we're going to need a co-operetive approach involing Provincial, Federal and foreign government agencies (USA) to ALL be on board with legalisation....A very tough political nut to crack (no pun intended).


chris
said

millions and millions of taxpayers dollars spent on controlling the pot trade. what bans on cigarettes do we have, kevin? cigarettes kill, there are no benefits to tobacco, yet more money for the government. yet, we r still allowed to kill ourselves with cigarettes. Marijuana is a plant, put on this earth to be used for our benefits. many benefits to pot, too many to list here in this comment section. save pot crime money, put it towards the real drug wars out there. like cocain, heroin, methamphetimes. these r the drugs that kill our citizens, our children, not pot. pot only kills, because it is prohibited.


Devils Advocate
said

Already most police officers will not enforce these laws on users. Many liken its use to alchohol use or compare the two and make a snap moral decision when they either leave or arrest. Laws here are backwards and the longer they are out of line with our collective morals, Legalization will eventually happen. Just remember evolution takes time. don't expect any change within the next 1-5 years, but it is coming.


coopns
said

Finally some common sence in goverment. I agree with the decriminalization of pot for all the reasons mentioned in this story. Its time to stop kidding ourselves that somehow people will stop using pot if it is illegal. Prohibation was a miserable failure and so to keeping pot illegal. Its time that this be regulated like alcohol and the monies from its sale go back to the goverment instead of organized crime who will reinvest it into other criminal ventures. Lets stop wasting taxpayers money, police time and crowding jails on something that is no more harmful then alcohol. We live in a time of fiscal restrain, here is an untapped pool of potential limitless tax money that could pay off the national debt, fund existing programs and fund new ones.


Albertan
said

Wouldn't you know it. Look where it is coming from. Gangs deal in heroin, coke, cyrstal meth and every other drug. Why don't they just want every drug legalized and who really gives a s--t what these ex dead beats have to say. Maybe we should let it be a provincial thing and then all the dead beats could be in one province which they obviously can't deal with life without being high or pissed


KEVIN
said

What a very slippery slope - Gangs cannot be controlled so legalize pot; then it steps up - Hell's Angels cannot be controlled co legalize cocaine. This has got to be the dumbest response to crime: "Well since we cannot control it let's make it legal and then it isn't a crime anymore." Where in the world is there logic in this line of thinking. We have gone and placed all these bans on tobacco and now we want to lighten laws for marjauana??? DUMB DUMB


Jeremy
said

Exactly, easy for these guys to get behind this issue now after they are out of the spotlight. I truly wish this will happen someday, but as I get a little older, I am becoming less and less optimistic that this will come to pass. Too bad.


DCI
said

This should have been done years ago. Better late than never. Same as prostitution should be regulated and legalized too. Our country is so far behind other nations. The government taxes us to death. With both of these areas legalized , the government could gain new tax areas, And then lower the general Canadians taxes. It has been proven for years, that both mari and prost have always been the highest crime areas in the country. It's time to take control away from the criminals. Let the voting majority vote in these isues, once and for all. And get a government with a backbone... No party wants to get involved with these issues. It is a win for everyone involved.get the ladies off the streets, and safe. And sell mari., in packs from the liqour store. Free taxes for Harper and his gang to spend...


Matt in NB
said

We need more people like these 4 former B.C. attorneys general, well educated and brave enough to stand up and admit that this is clearly dismall failure to prohibit marijuana.


hommer99
said

Alcohol is worse than weed will ever be.Guess the government wants money to go to gangs.


Chuck
said

It's about time the government realizes that stopping marijuana use is impossible and allow people to make their own decisions. This plant has many benefits aside from it's mind altering affects. Besides, what Canadian government is going to say no to increased tax revenue?


hollis reno
said

i think these four dudes have it right. pot has been around for years and most of us have tried it. it is not going to go away.


Dave
said

Doesnt supprise me this is coming from BC


joe canada
said

everyone could use a 4:20 once in a while.


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