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Date: Mon. Jan. 30 2012 11:47 PM ET

A legal firm is questioning Toronto Mayor Rob Ford's authority to abandon the previous Transit City plan and invoke his own vision for the city's transit future.

Coun. Joe Mihevc released a legal report on Monday suggesting Ford did not have the right to dismiss the previous administration's transit strategy – one which would have installed light-rail lines across much of Toronto.

The report from Cavalluzzo, Hayes, Shilton, McIntyre & Cornish – a respected Toronto law firm – suggests the mayor did not have the authority to abandon Transit City and move ahead with his alternative plan without a vote from council.

"It is council, not the mayor or anyone else, that makes council decisions on the future of Transit City or any other plan put forth," Mihevc told reporters at news conference Monday.

Mihevc said the legal opinion means that the first announcement made by Ford after taking office in December 2010, and a memorandum of understanding he signed with Premier Dalton McGuinty in April 2011, "have no legal significance until council says that they do.

"Given that council has had no debate or discussion on the matter, it is absolutely correct to say that Transit City is still the policy of the City of Toronto today," he said.

Ford appeared frustrated as he discussed the latest challenge to his transit plan on Monday, saying he was elected to build subways.

"I did what the taxpayers want. They want subways, they don't want streetcars," Ford told reporters. "It's all subways. It is all about subways."

Ford campaigned on a promise to kill Transit City and establish a transit plan based on subways. Shortly after Ford was elected in 2010 he abandoned the former transit plan and launched a new strategy to build a subway line in Scarborough.

His new plan also used previously allotted provincial funding to build an Eglinton Avenue light-rail line underground. Only a stretch across the Don Valley would remain above ground.

The fate of that plan has recently been cast into doubt after a collection of councillors including TTC chair Karen Stintz began pushing for more of the line to run above ground – a plan similar to the one included in Transit City.

Mihevc has questioned Ford's legal right to cancel Transit City in the past and recently solicited a legal opinion on the matter.

Lawyer Freya Kristjanson says her firm found that Ford had no legal right to move forward after signing a non-binding memorandum of understanding with the province authorizing the new plan.

"It is our opinion that he does not have that authority," Kristjanson said at a news conference on Monday. "This is because of the legal framework, The City of Toronto Act. Like all other municipalities, Toronto has a ‘weak mayor, strong council' system of municipal governance."

Kristjanson said this style of government means the power lies in city council, giving the mayor little independent authority unless it has been specifically delegated to him by council.

She said the mayor's plan remains nonbinding until council has voted for it – a step the mayor did not take at the time of the announcement, despite calls to do so from his opponents.

Transit City has been in existence since 2007, said Kristjanson, and has been the subject of several council votes.

"As such, until changed by a vote of council, Transit City remains the first transit priority of Toronto. There has been no vote to rescind or change these priorities or commitments in the 13 months since Mayor Ford took office," she said.

Coun. Maria Augimeri attended Monday's press conference and said the findings were not new, adding that many on council knew the mayor had not authority to kill Transit City.

Augimeri said Ford was warned by the city's legal department that the April 2011 memorandum of understanding with the province was not a binding document and warned the new mayor that it would not hold up to a legal challenge.

"I don't know why he went ahead and ignored staff – the experts," Augimeri told CP24.

The president and CEO of Metrolinx, the regional transit authority, said in a statement he wasn't able to comment directly on the report because he had not reviewed it.

However, Bruce McCuaig noted said that the agreement signed by Ford states that "it is a ‘non-binding MOU in order to provide a framework' for the revised transit plan and that this plan will be ‘subject to the approval of their respective governing bodies' as stated on page 2 of the MOU."

McCuaig said he didn't want to speculate on any further changes to the plan, and added that: "We want the City of Toronto to land on a single position."

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Paul
said

Toronto needs to wake up and smell the coffee. If you are to compete with other metropolitian cites, you need to address your infrastructure. Scraping Transit City is not the way to go. You have World Pride, the Pan Am games, international events I might add. Stop being the laughing stock! You could be so much more, if you only had a mayor with a vision.


Ray
said

I actually live on Jane Street and would of loved to see LRT come onto the Jane Street and Finch Avenue going towards the Airport. What this city needs is transit to the Airport to start calling it a world class city. I really don't understand why building a subway to Scarborough Town Centre would do for the economy. I guess Ford had that all planned out but forget to do the math. He needs to start with his biggest idea and that is to get rid of 22 council first before trying find ways to improve transit


lr greg
said

The issue is not whether subway or light rail is better it is that Mayor Ford has not submited his new plan to coucil for debate not has ther been a vote. If indeed the majoryty of Torontonians want to expand the subway system and have expressed this view to their representatives in council then there is no reason that they would not vote for the new plan.


bigguy2
said

if he is going to make decsions like this on his own wht do we need a council. he is nothing but a bully!


Will
said

And with the likes of Len, no discussion is possible. He woudl rather spew his hatred of all things conservative in general, and Harper in particular. Ever consider you might be wrong there, Len? What? Not possible in your won mind, whatever happened to a reasoned discussion? Or is that only when we all agree with you. . .


David Smith
said

Don't let the politicans anywhere near our transit plans for the future of this city.

Metrolinx, is more the capable of steering the transit plans in the right direction for Toronto and the G.T.H.A future


Paul
said

I have never understood why anyone voted in by the people have never had to sign a contract stating that they would follow through with their promises..... What's the worst that happens to them...They make a crap load of money and then run the risk of not getting voted in again!? There is no trust or accountability. Oh and congrats Mayor Ford on your lost water weight!!


Pete
said

The comments here are hilarious, and much like the concillors fighting the Mayor, are completely oblivious to the mandate given to Ford by the vast majority of voters.


Abraham Darwin
said

Transit planning should take into account the likelihood that gasoline will become increasingly expensive over the next few years. As cheap sources of crude oil dry up and are replaced with less easily extracted fields, $2 or $3 per litre become likely. It'll take time to replace the cars now on the road with more efficient models, particularly as cars are lasting longer these days. In this context, public transit's share of passenger miles will rise, even if people move closer to work and travel less overall. Streetcars may not move as many people as subways, but they cost a lot less.


Al
said

No, I am not from Oshawa. But I have used the subway system (both the Bloor line and Yonge line) and buses countless times during rush hour. Both can get crowded beyond reason. An LRT could be just as crowded. I think either system would alleviate congestion issues, but will still feed into the existing subways at some point. Anything run on tracks will have mechanical issues, signal problems and passenger emergencies. They are inevitable. But snowstorms and the effects of salt interfere far less with underground systems. LRTs must be fitted into existing street corridors which can be a problem, while subway construction avoids that issue. As for speed, I wouldn't call subways slow.


M
said

@Al you must be from Oshawa. Spend a month in Toronto and see how "great" subways run underground - You'll be surprised how frequently bad they are with mechanical issues, signal problems and of course passenger emergencies. Fact of the matter is above or below LRTs will help with congestion issues because it provides rapid transit. Especially the Eglinton Crosstown!


Mark
said

One wonders who paid the Toronto law firm to compile the report provided by Lefty Joe Mihevc.

Could it possibly be TAXPAYER'S money from Joe's office budget? I would very much like to know where these funds came from. Couldn't be CUPE or the TTC union boys and girls now could it?

Rob Ford is one of the best things to ever happen to this City and I for one am sick and tired of the Unions and "Left" in their petulant ways, trying to sabotage the one Mayor in a generation who has a pair.

Get a real job Mihevc.


Len
said

A The Big C from Saskatchewan: you are quite correct that these right wingers won the election in Toronto and nationally, vis a vis Harper. It is not so much that there are opposing views by the moderates (myself included) or the true left wing voters. What really irks those of a different color than deep blue is that the leaders of the far right who won their respective constituencies (Harper, Ford) are ruling with dictatorial force. Ford, in this case, cancelled a project unilaterally, a project that a very large number of people supported and also was costing the rest of Ontarians hard earned tax dollars, all for a unilateral belief that a subway to no where is good. He did so without council's stamp of approval. If he had this approval, so be it, and then we could move on. The other deep bluer, Harper, is doing the same in Ottawa by making unilateral statements and going against facts and beliefs (e.g., the crime bill, buying jet fighters that don't fly and cost billions more than what they will admit, the fact that he professes transparency of gov't but yet his reign of power is so opaque that it is a joke, etc.). So, we are not against government and open decisions, just dictatorial practices.


MiggsVer2.0
said

Streetcars were part of the previous mayor's war on cars. The streetcars were meant to congest the regular streets thus making travel with a regular car even more difficult than it already is in Toronto. It's the mayor's job to make things better, not worse. Mayor Miller was intentionally attempting to make things worse for people in cars even though he never used public transit in his entire life. The war on cars is over, get a life left-wing hypocrits.


Al
said

Hey eddytoronto. Winston Churchill drank, smoked and was overweight. So by your definition he was not a leader. Instead of attacking the person, why not argue about the policies. The argument is really whether LRT is more efficient than an underground system. In this type of climate, many would argue that an underground system makes more sense despite the possible extra cost. An underground system does not ruin the landscape and allows for development on the land, and does not interfere with traffic on the streets.


5th Generation Canadian
said

It's about time sanity rose to the top. Ford threw Toronto "under the bus" on transit. His "War on Transit" needs to be stopped. Counsel has the power to do it and Dalton has the power to do the right thing by agreeing to a Transit City based plan that will work for the citizens of Toronto. Now, they just need the cojones to get it done.


The Big Cee
said

Okay, I get that I'm from Saskatchewan and don't really have a say here, but there is a trend of something I'm noticing and it's starting to bother me. It's called selective forgetfulness, and it seems to affect the left wing in Canada. In my province, in the country overall, and in the city of Toronto, the right wing won the most recent election, but the left wing seems to keep forgetting that! Time and again I'm noticing the opposition trying to act like they are still in charge, and they just don't seem to accept that they lost. Why can't you rabble rousers just smell the coffee, you've lost power and you can't keep on acting like you are in charge anymore! Ford is right, he won his election on a few specific mandates and this appears to be one of them, just shut up already and plan for the next election because that is all you can really do. It's like they suddenly realized that someone in charge is actually going to do the things they said they would do, and it's not what the left wants, and they just can't get their heads around it.


Scot
said

The Mayor's transit plan is the best for Toronto and the GTA. It is imperative the growth in transit be done under ground. Yes the cost is greater than if the growth of transit is done above ground, however, above ground transit is slower, impedes traffic, increases air pollution and will not increase ridership.
In fact, all the old transit plan, that was scrapped by Mayor Ford, would do is move Toronto's transit from the 1950's/1960's to the 1980's. Toronto is still a vibrant and growing city and needs a transit system that is built not just for now but for the foreseeable future. That is why growth must be under ground throughout Toronto and the entire GTA.
In order to continue to attract people and business, the transit system must reflect that future growth. Mayor Ford's transit plan does this, the old Metrolinx did and does not.


Bob
said

It will be a sad day when one individual runs the city of Toronto. What ever happened to democracy ? What use are the rest of the city councillors if they cannot express the opinions of their constituents ?


Rob A Roy
said

I never voted for Rob Ford or Stephen Harper.They do nothing to help those with disabilities.I only vote for those who i think will keep thier word to help people with disabilities since i am one of the people with a disability.Although actions speak louder than words and all parties right now are dishonest.I cant drive so i need public transit.


Bob W.
said

@Jeremy Don't include the rest of us in your anti-conservative rant. "We Canadians" strictly means you and the other 10 disillusioned people who never vote but certainly whine.


eddytoronto
said

By Their Deeds You Shall Know Them...This Guy is very easy to Buy or Controll...He is over weight,smokes up and Drinks he is No Leader...I will say this again They are Not My Leaders..


Mattman
said

You voted for him folks!

Reap the whirlwind!


Al
said

@M: Do you really think the above-ground LRT would not be congested in rush hour? The only difference would be that the subway would still be running in cold stormy weather while the LRT would be having track problems.


Moira
said

What about the voter's rights? When they voted for Ford the majority of Torontonians made it clear that they do NOT support Transit City. Light rail lines will not do anything to reduce congestion in the suburbs, as anyone who actually lives here knows, they will just increase it. The suburbs were designed for cars, and no matter how much the left bemoans that fact, they can't change it.


Chuck
said

Ford - plenty of anger driven emotions, not so much thinking and planning. All hard right Cons are like drunken teenagers in a pick-up truck - fake bravado coupled with infantile emotions. No one is fooled - can't wait until they are gone. The experiment went really bad Canada!


Samantha
said

Is anyone really surprised by this? It was pretty obvious since day 1 that Ford would manipulate things to get his own way and didnt care about what was right as long as he was doing what he wanted.


M
said

Best news you could hear after a congested subway ride to work in the morning.


Jeremy
said

Sounds like a conservative tactic. I am telling you, we Canadians are becoming sick and tired of the bully tactics coming from the Canadian Right over the last year. Canadian Conservativism is on the decline, and I personally cannot wait for the next set of elections, vote them all out.


Ian Ottawa
said

So are the Toronto tax payers on the hook for cancellation fees for this project? If so then they should close down the City in a massive protest and make their wishes into whether or not they are accepting in this.


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