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Malta shuts down Canadian small-arms firing exercise

HMCS Charlottetown heads past Georges Island in Halifax harbour on Sunday, Jan. 8, 2012. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan)
HMCS Charlottetown heads past Georges Island in Halifax harbour on Sunday, Jan. 8, 2012. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan)

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The skipper didn't know he had crossed into Maltese waters? This is our Navy, they don't even know where they are. Good thing it wasn't Iranian waters.

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Malta shuts down Canadian small-arms firing exercise

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Malta shuts down Canadian small-arms firing exercise

Date: Saturday Jan. 21, 2012 9:24 PM ET

OTTAWA — It seems the Maltese revel in their peace and quiet -- even when it's at sea.

A Canadian warship on its way to the eastern Mediterranean caused a bit of ruckus off the island nation.

Earlier this week, the Halifax-based frigate HMCS Charlottetown conducted a small-arms firing exercise on the deck of the ship, which is routine training for the counter-terrorism mission the ship is about to begin.

Sailors were firing 9 mm pistols towards the empty ocean when they were ordered to stop.

Lt. Mark Fifield, a spokesman for the Royal Canadian Navy in Ottawa, says Maltese Coast Guard officials hadn't authorized the exercise and shut it down after being notified over the radio.

Under international convention, warships conducting any firing drills in the waters of other countries are required to warn other vessels in the area and the host nation.

Fifield said the skipper of the Charlottetown didn't realize his warship had crossed into Maltese waters, but added that the radio warning had still been broadcast.

"No other vessels were in proximity to Charlottetown at the time of the incident and there was no risk to public safety," he said.

Canada delivered a note of apology to Malta over the incident and Fifield said it was something the navy "deeply regretted."

He said the weapons drill, conducted to ensure sailors are ready for the boarding of suspicious vessels, later resumed but only after the warship had hit international waters.

The frigate is on its way to join the NATO standing fleet, which is conducting counter-terrorism patrols. It was ordered to take up the post by the Conservative government, which wants to maintain a presence in the region given the instability and uprisings in Arab countries.

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ultamatt
said

Canadian warship armed with 9mm pistols , no wonder the rest of the world scoffs at us ...


Reece
said

Canada is ranked as the 25th most powerful military, well behind Iran, Turkey, France, Japan, Egypt etc. Some of these posters have it in their head that countries like Maltese need Canada. WHAT FOR? We have a total of 3 destroyers covering all the oceans of planet earth. Compare that with Mexico with their 2 destroyers. That is all!! To steel a line from Mohammad Ali - "Its not bragging if you can back it up" - Clearly, we Canadians do not have much to brag about.


anyone
said

so we are polutting the oceans again firing lead into them. will the military ever learn?


Don in Nova Scotia
said

I am sitting here reading some of these comments about the captain not knowing he crossed into another countries waters. Have any of you been 10 or 12 miles out to see. People, there are no road signs out there in open water. Give it a rest.


Michael from Toronto
said

Some posters here do not know what they are commenting about - have you even fired a sidearm before? 9 mm rounds have a fair amount of recoil and to be able to shoot accurately and reliably (after the 1st round), you need to practise. Sailors do not normally fire small arms, especially pistols. I am proficient with a Browning automatic, a standard 9 mm format and it requires familiarity to use effectively. Soldiers regularly practise on ranges but sailors do not. If they have to draw their pistol to defend themselves when they board a suspicious vessel, they better be proficient. Next time think before you criticize someone who is putting their lives on the line.


Anthony Desbottes
said

This is another example of Canada's armed forces lack of control over the situations they are being put into. We should not even be over there. It reinforces my belief that we should dismantle our armed forces and maintain only a small defence force. The trillions in savings can go to pay off our debt, shore off our Health Care and provide good education to all Canadians. Enough with the warmongering already. I will vote for any political party that will take apart this monstrously expensive war machine.....1) Out of control situation? What situation was that??? Couter- terrorism at sea? We are good at that?2) Canadians don't spend "trillions", we barely spend billions. We spend per capita the lowest on our Armed Forces among all of the first world nations. Even Australia with practically one third of our population spends more than we do. 3) We did buy weapons to support a defence force, the three UK submarines. LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY THAT COST US; and the're currently not operational to boot.We blow more money on Health care than any other goverment program. The last thing we should do is throw more money at it.


Jasper
said

I can understand that the people of Malta are still a little sensitive about what the Germans did to them in WWII....But getting PO'd about 9mm pistols?? They are the same type of gun that ever cop carries on their hip. Effective range of about 50 yards. It wasn't like they were firing the ships big guns. Someone would have to be very close to the ship to hear and see what was going on.


Cheese Please!
said

The mouse that roared! I guess some countires have a healthy dose of self importance. Then on the other hand, who really cares? Malta... what's that? SAFETY was NEVER an issue!


Guelph Observer
said

Exactly what target were they aiming at - the ocean? Did they hit it or did they miss?? For once Prof Pye has got it right.


Zhimmy
said

Whatever, careful or we'll take your island with 1 ship!


retiredhairy
said

I do not believe this for one moment, there are too many checks and balances to allow this to happen. The Bridge team backed up by the Ops team ensure things like this do not happen. These a highly trained motivate sailors and officers who want to do a good job for their country. The next time you want to throw out a snippy comment think about being away from your family for months on end working a minimum of 14 hours a day, 7 days a week with no overtime or time off in lieu


tyler
said

I agree we need to dismantle. We used to be a peace keeping country and now we're lap dogs for the USA. Worse it will not change under a Harper government that uses the Armed Forces to make profit and of course keep the defence ministers toys at his beck and call.


Blair
said

MLatouche How can you say the Armed Forces have a lack of control because of an incident that happened in the Navy? First off, as a proud Canadian who has given this great country 30 years of service, people make mistakes. This does not mean we rip them apart and use the money towards other issues. Seems to me you are bitter towards the military.


devils advocate
said

A 9mm round can travel 2400 metres (that's approximately 1.4 miles) which is a very long way. If there was landfall or another craft anywhere in that range firing blindly could put lives in danger. The Maltese were absolutely right to call on this ship to cease fire. This captain should be given remedial lessons in reading charts if it a was an unintentional error or a lesson in humility and following rules of international law if it was arrogant disregard. International waters are acknowledged by most nations to be at least 12 mi from the coast of any landfall which guaranatees this sort of exercise will be safe for people on land (still not ever safe regarding other ships at sea). At any rate, this sort of "exercise" is probabably an unneccessary risk taken mostly so sailors can blow off steam and enjoy themselves a little and relieve the monotony of shipboard life. Anyone who has actually fired a weapon with the intention of improving their skill at arms knows that the actual training value of un-aimed gunfire is limited to nonexistent.


MLatouche
said

This is another example of Canada's armed forces lack of control over the situations they are being put into. We should not even be over there. It reinforces my belief that we should dismantle our armed forces and maintain only a small defence force. The trillions in savings can go to pay off our debt, shore off our Health Care and provide good education to all Canadians. Enough with the warmongering already. I will vote for any political party that will take apart this monstrously expensive war machine.....


bcosimmobile
said

We have a warship?!!!


J.C.
said

Whoa,me thinks our navy Captains need some training with the on board instruments. Of course if they malfunctioned then they need to be fixed right away!! Something went amuk for sure!!


Roosterboy
said

Maybe this was not the message the Navy wanted expressed. Perhaps if the Public Affairs Officer who prepared the response had some real world experience other than Public Affairs they would have crafted a salient and coherent response. I can assure you the Captain knew where he was. Also the Navy does not refer to its Commanding Officers as "skippers". Stop finding jobs for people who couldn't handle the first 3 thing sthey tried.


John
said

How can firing pistols can be heard in open sea? It's just the sound of opened can crack. Well maybe the Malta coast guards and army are much better trained and better equipped than Canadian navy. They can detect even small can crack in open sea.Canadian navy should go back to drawing board or start from scratch. I feel scratchy now.


Duke
said

"He said the weapons drill, conducted to ensure sailors are ready for the boarding of suspicious vessels......"

This is kind of a tall story even coming from a sailor.

I think they were more likely practising their response to a sighting of an enemy nuclear submarine.


Adrian from Hamilton
said

Two weeks ago the Costa Concordia was closer to shore than it should be. Now HMCS Charlottetown is closer to shore than it should be, We are lucky the Maltese warned us so our ship did not end up on the rocks like the other one. (sarcasm intended)


Retired Captain in Dartmouth
said

" The ship didn't realize they were in Maltese waters??" What in the wide wide world of sports was the bridge navigation team doing???? What was the weapons officer and XO doing?? What happened to the standing instructions of verifying that you have a clear range? What about firing in someone elses waters?? It may have only been short range, small arms munitions, but it certainly was live fire just the same..!!! Wake up Commander...!!!!! We do not need these embarassments...!! Incidently...for those of contemporarymemory...Malta was the scene in World War 2 of some of the most vicious bombartment in mankinds history by the German Luftwaffe....one should well appreciate the sensitivity here as their grand parents experienced enough shelling for 10 lifetimes much less one..to the people of Malta..our apologies..!


Steve
said

OMG! Firing 9mm pistols towards open ocean. Please think of the children! In case some of you don't get it, I was being sarcastic.


Yapleader
said

Oops, we did what?


Landlocked
said

The skipper didn't know he had crossed into Maltese waters? This is our Navy, they don't even know where they are. Good thing it wasn't Iranian waters.


Sailor
said

Such things happen, however, the NAVO should have ensured the CO was aware. Muster for slaps.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

It's a little disconcerting to learn that the captain of a sizable Canadian military vessel didn't know that he had crossed into another country's waters. (Certain anti-Western countries might not take kindly to this.) However, of course, because our "Conservative government" (to quote the story) sent the ship on its mission, we must hold PM Harper responsible for this "major international embarrassment." (Surely, everybody in the world is laughing at our pistol exercise.) He should have been on the bridge, at the helm, and steered the frigate correctly. Gosh; can't Harper do ANYTHING right? Damn the Conservatives.


Ryan Sales
said

Not a big deal, but surprises me that a warship with all the technology it possesses didn't know it had crossed an international boundary. Guess about all they could say is "Ooops".


Roxy
said

What is the point of a Canadian frigate firing bullets into the Mediterranean Sea as a practice for the boarding of "suspicious" vessels ? ... Whose vessels would be deemed "suspicious" and under whose authority would the boarding be deemed legal ? ... It is sad that rather than inculcating dialogue & discussion , Canada is joining the role of the "bully" powers by mimicking "might & force" trumps everything else . . .


Pugfire
said

The Captain didn't know his ship was in their waters? While he didn't plow it into the rocks, that is just about as bad an Oooops as a certain other Captain in the news of late. Certainly doesn't make our warships and their skippers look good.


John
said

You would think that these guys would know where they are with all the GPS equipment they have on these boats - to not know they had crossed in to territorial water is a bit embarrassing to admit...


Steve Staggs
said

Well, the Matlese don't like us conducting small arms practise in their waters, however they don't mind that we patrol the med and keep their shores safe. If I were the PM, I'd be getting on the horn with whoever runs this tiny little place and let him know our displeasure. And where is Malta and their beloved security forces? Are they trying to protect their shores or are they leaving that up to NATO?


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