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Hudak voices opposition to Toronto casino

Ontario Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak delivers remarks to journalists at the Ontario Legislature in Toronto on Monday, Dec. 5, 2011. (Chris Young / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
Ontario Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak delivers remarks to journalists at the Ontario Legislature in Toronto on Monday, Dec. 5, 2011. (Chris Young / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Tuesday Jan. 17, 2012 4:31 PM ET

TORONTO — Ontario's cash-strapped Liberals should think twice before rolling the dice on a casino in the heart of the province's most populous city to help slay their massive $16-billion deficit, Opposition Leader Tim Hudak warned Tuesday.

Building a gambling palace in downtown Toronto is just another way for the government to put its hands in people's pockets, rather than finding ways to operate more efficiently, he said.

"We're heading in the wrong direction here," the Tory leader said.

"Our focus should be on reducing costs, reducing the cost and size of government, not vacuuming more money out of the wallets of Ontario families."

The once-troubled and "bloated" Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. must show that it has put its own house in order before going ahead with anything new, Hudak added.

"To date, no, I'm not convinced they've fixed their own internal problems," he said. "Not by a longshot."

Putting a casino in Toronto is a longstanding proposal that has been mulled over by successive Ontario governments, well before the Liberals took power in 2003.

But Finance Minister Dwight Duncan added fuel to the fire Monday by suggesting that he's receptive to the idea because it could help bring in a new source of revenue, adding to the $1.9 billion that OLG contributed to the treasury in 2010.

The Crown corporation -- which is also moving ahead with online gambling -- launched a "land-based gaming" review a year ago at Duncan's request.

"I look forward to getting the bulk of their recommendations, us having a look at those and then moving forward from there," Duncan said Monday.

"So it would be premature to comment, other than to say we wouldn't do anything like that without a clear expression by the city of Toronto that they'd like it."

OLG once built casinos in border cities to attract American tourists, but it's an outdated strategy because borders are more difficult to cross and the loonie is much stronger relative to the U.S. dollar, Duncan added.

When OLG opened Caesars Windsor in his hometown, there were no casinos in neighbouring Detroit, he said. Now there are three in Detroit and another coming to Toledo, Ohio.

"That world has changed, so what does that mean going forward?" Duncan said. "How do we continue to protect those border casinos as, at the same time, we maximize the profit potential of the OLG?"

But a new Toronto casino could also draw gamblers away from other OLG casinos in places like Niagara Falls, said Hudak, whose Niagara West-Glanbrook riding borders that city.

"What is going to be the impact on the bottom line in terms of jobs and overall revenue?" he said.

"I think there is a considerable concern about cannibalization of existing assets."

OLG operates four resort casinos: Caesars Windsor, Casino Rama near Orillia, and two casinos in Niagara Falls: Fallsview and Casino Niagara.

It also has six other casinos in Brantford, Point Edward, Sault Ste. Marie, Gananoque (near the Thousand Islands), Thunder Bay and Point Perry.

Municipalities that host casinos and slots at racetracks receive a cut of the slot machine revenues, which can add up to millions of dollars a year. For example, Toronto's 2010 share from the Woodbine Racetrack amounted to almost $16 million.

However, revenues from casinos have dropped in recent years. In 2010, the OLG reported revenues from its resort casinos fell to $1.3 billion from $1.4 billion in 2009. Revenues from its other casinos, slots and racetracks also dipped slightly to $2.03 billion from $2.07 billion.

The lottery agency has seen its share of troubles in recent years as provincial watchdogs issued scathing reports on insider wins and expenses.

OLG's troubles culminated in August 2009, when Duncan cleaned house by firing then-CEO Kelly McDougald and replaced its board of directors.

That same day, he released thousands of pages of what he called "unacceptable" expense claims filed by lottery executives, which included expensive dinners, gym and golf clubs memberships -- even a $1.12 grocery bag.

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Doug
said

Go ahead and put in a casino. It is just a voluntary taxation business anyway and a way to offer entertainment to seniors who prefer to live rich and die broke! (sorry kids!)

If only someone would tell me why it is that so many are devoid of any intellect, tether themselves to machines and push a button over and over and over again.




Jayme
said

Len
Yes casinos can cause hardship and while that's very sad you have to look at the other side if Ontario they don't go with a casino people could also face hardship as social programs might have to be cut or at least have no more funding be it social housing or food banks etc.


spaz
said

Before Hudak comes out against the proposal as just another tax grab.....spend a few moments in thought.
There is no shortage of gamblers, as seen by the steady stream of money from 649 and the MAX.
There has long been talk of Woodbine expanding to include all the games, not just slots.....a tax on the retired.
I like the idea of not having to travel to Rama or Niagara Falls to have a little fun.....done right it would be a boost to tourism for the city.
Now.....for business.....anybody out there willing to give me odds on whether or not it will happen ????


Len
said

Am against casinos (for a different reason than MikeW). They do bring in revenue but they also cause a lot of hardship for those who live nearby. Maybe that's why I like Vegas - far away, have to save to get here and therefore won't blow my shirt. In Toronto - too many people to go and lose, all in the hope of making a winning. I'm from an area with a casino and see too many hardship cases. A casino in Toronto would only entice certain ethnicities to play (no intention of sounding racist or whatever here, just going by what I see in local area around our casino). That is fine if they are all winners but too many would be losers. And, on the losing side - crime rate goes up. We see it all the time.


Jamie
said

I've lived in several towns that had casinos, and I was an account manager for a bank. Saw some pretty sad things going on because people not being able to handle the casino. I certainly don't think we need more areas with casinos.


Elizabeth, Ontario
said

McGuinty is so corrupt he wouldn't think twice about the damage casinos do to peoples lives. If he had managed Ontario finances more responsibly we wouldn't have become a have-not province under his watch. Good for Hudak!


MJ
said

Let them build a casino in Toronto to steal your money! Then they can build the power plant to run it like in Windsor -wait they could use the power plant they didn't finish on the Etobicoke border!!!! Oh yeah then they can serve drinks at inflated prices and make more money through the booze!


over taxed
said

Given the fact that all levels of government,municipal to the federal level are a glutton for over spending and job duplication. I really don't see what Mcguinty's nads have to do with anything...The glutton that is the unions intertwined within the public and private is what is really dipping into the taxpayers pocket


Mark in Newmarket
said

The last thing that this province needs (or for the City of Toronto for that matter)is another stinking Casino. Sure, these places do generate income for the province, but the question is at who's expense? How many people's lives have been destroyed here in Ontario because of gambling? Too many to count, that's for sure. And yes, I'm sure there are going to be people who will say that "nobody forced them to gamble, they're adults, they should know their limits", but hey, people are people and one thing that every human has is this nasty little trait called greed, we all have it, you and me both. Greed is addictive and casino's feed off of peoples greed and lusts to help fill their vaults. If the government of this province actually believes they are looking out for our best interest, then they should think twice before wanting to open up another sin palace.


torn
said

Something to consider as well Go Transit, Via Rail and the link to the airport all connect to the EX / Ontario Place site. And of course the mayor could even get his monorail from the station to the casino.


Craig
said

Hudak is so out of touch with reality. The province needs more money, casinos are one of the fairest taxes that exist, they're right up there with taxes on alcohol, lottery tickets & slot machines..the latter being all over the place in Ontario. Niagara falls is a horrible place, but tourism isn't going to drop if Toronto gets a casino. The whole Conservative mantra of "cutting government" is unrealistic and has never actually solved a deficit problem, it's a soundbite for the uninformed.


Torn
said

Great, now maybe the old lady by the lake can receive a much needed face lift and generate some much needed revenue for the city. The exhibition grounds and Ontario place are shabby underused prime pieces of land that is perfect for this tourist attraction. Casinos such as Caesar's Windsor generates tourist interest as well as sponsoring many family events during the summer. Eg Red Bull plane races. This would generate millions in tourist dollars for the city businesses.


Rob
said

I am a conservative supporter, and I believe that a Casino would be good for the city, as will create revenue and Tourism. Gambling is no different than cigarette smoking and alcohol. But we sell alcohol and cigarettes. Having said that, I think that Hudak is useless and should resign. Anybody with the conservative banner should have beaten Dalton Mcliar in the last election and get elected. He run a terrible campaign and should face the consequences.


MikeW
said

Mcguinty does not have the nads to take on the unions and cut costs. The only way he can tackle the defict with his narrow mind is to raise taxes and take money out of peoples pockets thru gambling revenues.




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