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B.C. Premier Christy Clark speaks on CTV's Power Play on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2012. The anticipated $5.5 billion Enbridge Inc. project would result in a 1,177-kilometre twin pipeline carrying crude oil from Alberta to an oil tanker port in Kitimat, B.C., for eventual export to Asia.

Pipeline debate best left to Canadians: B.C. premier

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B.C. Premier Christy Clark speaks on CTV's Power Play on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2012. The anticipated $5.5 billion Enbridge Inc. project would result in a 1,177-kilometre twin pipeline carrying crude oil from Alberta to an oil tanker port in Kitimat, B.C., for eventual export to Asia.

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B.C. Premier Christy Clark speaks on CTV's Power Play on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2012.

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Date: Sun. Jan. 15 2012 4:51 PM ET

When it comes to the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline, British Columbia's premier says the debate and decision is best left to Canadians.

"I don't think Canadians benefit from foreign meddling in our decisions," B.C. Premier Christy Clark told CTV's Question Period on Sunday.

The twin pipeline project, which would move bitumen from Alberta to coastal B.C., has divided Canadians and caught the attention of observers in the U.S. and beyond.

Clark's comment comes almost a week after Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver issued a letter accusing "radical" environmentalists of trying to undermine Canadian interests. He later clarified his position, saying he was referring to groups receiving funding from American sources.

Though Clark didn't ask outright for U.S.-backed environmental groups to butt out of the pipeline debate, she said it's Canadians who will be directly affected by the multi-million dollar Enbridge Inc. project.

"The American groups that come up here to influence the process come up here…they want to win their battle and then they walk away," she said.

Oliver has been widely criticized since calling out groups such as the Washington-based Natural Resources Defense Council and the Canadian charity Tides Canada Inc., for receiving U.S. funds.

While she hasn't taken a similarly hard-line, Clark acknowledged those concerns.

"I think the danger for Canadians in Americans spending a lot of money to change our political decisions can be very real," she said.

Since the Northern Gateway hearings began in Kitimat, B.C. last week, Clark has attempted to stay neutral, saying she prefers to "get the facts on the table" before forming a concrete opinion.

Still, some say the B.C. premier compromised her impartiality when Ken Boessenkool, a former Harper advisor and lobbyist for Enbridge Inc. became her new chief of staff.

Clark insists that Boessenkool is "leaving his private sector connections in the past in coming to perform public service here in British Columbia."

Meanwhile, American environmentalist Robert Kennedy Jr. maintains that it isn't disingenuous for U.S. groups to contribute to public debate on the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline.

"They don't have a private-personal stake in this," he told CTV's Question Period. "Nobody's going to get rich doing this, they're doing it because they think its in the public interest."

Kennedy represents a group called Waterkeeper Alliance, a group made up of clean water activists. He says the alliance is binational and is required to have a certain number of Canadians on its board.

The long-time environmental lawyer said there are international groups weighing in on both sides of the Northern Gateway debate, which he maintains affects more than just Canada.

Many have drawn parallels between the Enbridge line and the stalled Alberta to Texas Keystone XL pipeline, which also stirred questions on both sides of the border.

"Do I think it's wrong for U.S. groups to come in on issues that might affect the world environment? No, I don't," he said.

Still, Kennedy concedes that the location of the pipeline means the debate differs from the Keystone XL.

"Ultimately, this is going to be a Canadian issue," he said.

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Concerned Canadian
said

These attacks on Canadians that oppose the Northern Gateway as somehow being puppets of radical foreign interests are absolutely disgusting and certainly hypocritical given that far more foreign oil money (primarily Chinese) is supportnig this project. This project is unCanadian in every respect and is extremely threatening to British Columbia. It puts BC's entire coast, including both the commercial and recreational fisheries, as well as the tourism industries, not to mention the culture and way of life of local communities directly at risk. The economic value of these industries is far superior than what this project proposes to generate. In fact, the economic benefits that BC, and Canada for that matter, will derive from this project are peanuts - a couple of hundred long term jobs and an estimated 2.5 billion over 30 years for local, provincial and federal governments combined. The risks of a tanker spill on that stretch of BC coast are significant - Environment Canada calls the Hecate Strait the fourth most dangerous body of navigable water in the world and the recent sinking of the MV Queen of the North in those waters should serve as a warning. An Exxonn Valdez size spill in these waters will destroy BC. The Auditor General of Canada's report from last year warned that the Coast Guard and Environment Canada are not prepared for an oil spill on that coast. Furthermore, this project will continue eastern Canda's continued dependence on imports from Saudia Arabia and Nigeria as it ships our unrefined bitumen abroad to be refined and processed in China. Canadians need to wake up! This project is a monumental disaster that places all the risk on Canadian taxpayers and BC residents while sending jobs abroad and all the benefits to already extremely wealthy private oil interests.


Dave in Edm
said

Like Canadians will have an opinion on a pipeline built and run by a multi national organisation that is pumping oil owned by multi national organisations... How much say will Canada have in the Chinesse owned and operated Athabasca Oilsands project? In my opinion, since this is more about multi national companies than Canada, it should be up to those whose land will be used for the pipeline... Why should someone in NB have a say for what happens in BC and AB? Why should someone in Lethbridge have a say in what happens in Kitimat?


OGOIL
said

Mr Kennedy and the Americans do not want this pipeline. This pipeline means they are no longer the only customer for the oil. If they have to compete for the oil, they might have to pay more or not get it at all. Mr Kennedy and the Americans do not want this pipeline to happen and will do anything to make it not happen. Canada and the Canadians who need jobs want this pipeline.


simone
said

Politicians are so very transparent. Their arrogance is only exceeded by their egos. The public are not fools and see right through your narcissistic and greedy ways.Good for the economy and the province but better for your very long pockets.Give me a break. It is not good for the environment PERIOD.


Kevin
said

If you want to find out the sources of the US money try reading Vivian Krause and her investigations.


Josh
said

If this deal gets done on these pipelines, the entire worlds environment, climate, biodiversity, water & food supply will SIGNIFICANTLY be effected, we cannot jeopordize our childrens futures for money.


Cyril
said

If she can't stand the heat she should never have entered the kitchen (i.e. leadership race). I joined the B.C. Liberals to vote against her. NDPers joined to vote for her.


islandguy
said

CrazyChristy tries to help Harper drag a red herring.So I guess that's all the leadership we'll get from her.But as to foreigners and their pesky opinions:gee,I wonder how you'd like it if they built a nuclear power plant in Blaine.I guess that'd be none of your business,eh? MY neighbours are welcome to lean across the fence and make a comment on what I'm doing.They might have valuable experience to share.


simone
said

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. When the decisions are made they will be MADE in CANADA by Canadians. Let's not bend over so far to accommodate other countries before we take care of Canadians 1st. I will wager that when Canada is in any trouble countries such as China will not lead the race to aid us. We are putting one of the world's most awesome and beautiful areas in jeopardy.With Enbridge involved in this project and their track record I simply don't trust them or their "oh everything will be fine"comments.There is a very viable concern that an oil spill along the B.C Coast would be devastating. Can we just for once put common sense before GREED.


Guelph Observer
said

Not at all. The impact of mining and moving this dirty tar is global (in terms of climate change and air & water pollution, so other countries/concerned citizens have a right to be heard.


Howard
said

Few want to believe it or think about it but world oil supply has peaked. Foreign interest in our energy supply validates this fact. Tars sands aside, Alberta will soon resemble Texas - a lot of dry wells and no commercially viable supply. The pipeline will only accelerate the inevitable.


safetyman
said

I am delighted to see so many people in BC standing up for the jobs this will create and knowing that the standards needed to protect our environment will be second to none. The pipeliners in both provinces are second to none in the world and also have very high safety standards as well as being residents. This job alone will create billions of $ for both provinces as well as the rest of Canada. For those who only want to belly ache they should do some research on the oil sands and quit just believing those few who spout the garbage and become wealthy doing so. Google Syncrude Canada website for a start and see the billions of $ they invest in reclamation and the successes they have and the research they are doing to make it even better. Weather or not we want to use oil is not the point, the point is there is nothing to take its place at this point and time. Also research pipeline spills in Canada, our history is not that bad at all and they are continually working at making them better. If you don't believe me then talk to those who make their living doing the work, they are the professionals, not David S. or Al Gore. But then what would I know, I am just a retired tradesman who was born in Ft. Mac.


marv
said

If we are a major suppliers or producers of oil/petrolum products, why are our prices so expensive in Canada, versus United States? Shouldn't we be benefiting from it being produced in our own country?? All I see is a price increases!


Hilton Shand
said

To be registered as an Intervener by the National Energy Board the person or organisation must show that they have a vested interest in the project. This political rhetoric is nonsense; the National Energy Board hearings process has established procedures to ensure the legitimacy of those who receive Intervener status; and can preclude persons or groups that are not legitimately involved. The process for applying for Intervener status is posted on the NEB website. What does it matter if how or where a legitimate Intervener raises funds? Canadians get involved in lots of political and economic issues in other nations.


roy
said

I think Mr. Kennedy should go to China and tell the government there that they should get rid of all their coal fired power plants,I know that won't happen because he is a coward to do so,on the other hand the US wants our resource but don't want the pipeline and they don't want Canada to build a pipeline so we can sell it abroad.As far as risks go there are risks in every everything from flying ,driving your car,to eating food that may be contaminated.The Premier of BC is right Canada can do this without influence from outsiders.


Angela from BC
said

True environmentalists know the environment has no borders....this planet is so small and when oil filled the gulf of Mexico, many of us around the world suffered as we felt it in our hearts....the nerve to say that all of Canada should decide what goes on in BC is ludicrous. Does BC get to say what should go on in Ontario? We know that many $$$ can be spent by big oil on false advertising to people who really know nothing of this issue and when they proclaim all the jobs, jobs jobs it's going to create, of course Canadians would vote in favor of the pipeline....but not anyone who is in the know will vote for it!....and why are we importing refined oil to Canada, while shipping unrefined oil to China? These "foreigners will get the jobs to refine it and sell it back to us at a marked up price....makes no sense...everyone I have spoken to in BC about this issue, be they young or old, has said that although they didn't want to, they would physically fight this pipeline.... there's too much for us BCers to lose including our homes, rivers, animals, precious coastline and last remaining Great Bear Rainforest!


Bill
said

Clark is promoting the pipeline where a accident will destroy the BC fishery and the cons plan to cut health transfers when BC has a ever expanding aging population.With positions so opposed to the majority of the BC population you wonder if she is eyeing a move to the fed cons.Her days are certainly numbered as BC premier.


A Koster
said

@ robert, what obligation exactly is it that we owe China? Is it the one where we feed China's insatiable appetite to churn out pollution while turning on us and saying we need to cut back on our co2s. It's Harper that's gone around the world trying to secure jobs for everybody else with his ridiculous trade agreements... making deals in backrooms with the slightest of details being made public.. why hasn't Harper himself had some kind of open discussion on ANYTHING?.. he stands in the house of commons along with his goofs and repeats scripted notes over and over again. You talk like you trust him.. I envy you because, to me, everything he has done so far is meant to deceive.. nor is it some game that I am meant to delight in by deciphering what is really happening.. it's real to me.. our quality of life, our future.


Fraser Gray
said

This is Canada and not the United States of Hollywood. I would suggest that the Americans have enough on their plate minding the business of so many other countries in the world, that they should just BUTT OUT of Canadian affairs. They have a right to say something if it is within the boarders of the USA and not elsewhere. Besides they forget that the supplier of the majority of their oil is in fact Canada and not the middle east. I think they are just peed off because Canada may have found a more lucrative market in Asia, and no longer has to beg for the Yankee Green Back. Maybe these lobbyists and movie stars ( so called celebrity environmentalists ) should concentrate on the environmental problems that plague the USA eg. Coal fired power plants, Alaska Oil drilling, Great Lakes cleanup, etc. Stay home and do us all a favour.


Pat
said

If the Yanks want to stop this pipeline we should cut the Alaska pipeline and tell them no more will travel through our country!


Retyred 2007
said

Well I guess that leaves the oil companies out of this. All of them are foreign owned and therefore not Canadian. I guess they will have to figure something else out to win their battle. It also shows how much the politicians know about the oil companies.


Nigel
said

I have seen firsthand the destruction left behind from the Eurocan pulpmill in Kitimat--the end point of the pipeline. The company simply up and left behind their legacy. Also a handful of deaths from stomach cancer and other illnesses, where the people ate the crab that they were told was safe by Eurocan "experts."

Eurocan's environmental record fluctuated with the demand for pulp and paper; I expect that Enbridge will do the same.

And as for BC jobs and progress? The Enbridge numbers are always fluctuating. About 6 months ago it stood at 200 full time jobs, now, it's 500! Check out the latest numbers here: www.northerngateway.ca

I'll bet that they'll change it up to 700, 800 or 1000 by the end of 2012.

Being a resident of northern BC, with a home about 300 meters from a river that the pipeline will cross, I know what this pipeline is threatening.

There are real humans living here who hold a certain standard of living. Some of us don't even get most of our food from the grocery store. Almost all of us drink the water from the ground and rivers.


A Koster
said

to Doug^^^BC, making an informed decision means knowing that the Chinese have some $11 billion invested in ownership in the oil sands just over the past couple of years, including 100% ownership of the McKay River project.. it means knowing that this heavy, dirty oil will be shipped SE Asia where China is already churning out the world's worst pollution.. it means a couple of hundred temporary jobs here building this pipeline vs thousands of full time jobs in China. Harper himself sanctioned that first $1.2 billion purchase in 2009.. ask yourselves why China would have made all that additional investment without some assurance from the beginning that this pipeline would be built. I don't buy whatever games Clark and Harper are playing to deflect attention away from the Chinese and onto the US. This was supposed to be the year of our national parks.. har har.. attendance will be down even more if Enbridge and their 70 spills a year have their way.. and that's nevermind that these cons said that there was a moratorium on tanker traffic off the BC coast just a about a year ago. Can we believe anything that Harper or Clark say?.. apparently not.


Edgar
said

Clark is seriously asking us to believe that her new chief of staff is "leaving his private connections" (as a former lobbyist with Enbridge) "in the past"... ---She thinks Canadians are that gullable?


testy
said

George V. wrote..."They (meaning the US) certainly wouldn't appreciate Canada meddling in their affairs or politics." --- you must have been on vacation, George, when Harper lobbied and tried to pressure the American administration on behalf of the Keystone Pipeline project. --- I'm confused. It's okey for Canada to put pressure on a foreign nation re Keystone, but it's not for "foreigners" to weight in on the Gateway project? Isn't that hypocritical?


Edgar
said

Of course, there is no foreign money or support on the pro-pipeline side.Foreign assistance for the pro-pipeline side is not a problem. Foreign money for the anti-pipeline side... quite scandalous - lol


Bumcrack USA
said

Premier Christy Clark has just hired Ken Boessenkool as her new chief of staff. Before joigning her staff, Boessenkool was an advisor to Harper and before that, he was a lobbyist for Enbridge. ---Isn't it interesting that a former Enbridge lobbyist is now chief of staff of the BC premier?


Joan in Real World
said

If pipeline projet should be free from "foreign medling", then Enbridge should refuse all foreign assistance. For starters, Sinopec, a Chinese company, should stop funding the pipeline to the tune of $5.5 billion. By the way, Sinopec also owns part of Syncrude, and has veto rights on all company decisions whether to refine tar sand bitumen in Canada or abroad. All and all, that's a lot of power to China over where a lot of Canada's tar sand resources are refined.


Sean Matthews
said

With over $15 Billion dollars of Chinese investment in Canada's natural resources, and $5.4 Billion of that given to own 50% of Encana's environmentally dangerous (to our air and our water) hydraulic fracturing on the Alta/B.C. border last Feb., how do politicians like Joe Oliver and Christy Clark, with a serious face, say that only environmental groups are supported by foreign interests?? Aren't oil companies mostly foreign-owned? If the Communist government of China doesn't care about its own folks, why would it care about hurting Canadians' living environment? What are we thinking? Why are we selling our birthright away to China? P.S.- Note the horse killed in Dawson by a gas cloud arising from the flaming of numerous natural gas wells around a lady's farm there! Note the EPA finally connecting fracking with health issues in the US. Stop fracking in Nova Scotia, NB and BC/Alta!!


Carl
said

You can run your pipe line through BC but 95% of oil income has to be distributed to BC residents.


It's a Canadian issue
said

I have to agree. We don't need outside interests trying to dictate what we do with our resources. On a side note to other contributors on this comment site. If you can't make your point in fewer than 100 words then you don't have a focused argument.


Sherylee Harper
said

No pipeline. Canadian citizens whose voting credibility must be verified are the only people who should be making the decisions.As far as foreign influence. Who do you people think own the BIG OIL from Alberta that pours money into the Conservative campaign coffers, eh? Enbridge may be a 'Canadian Company', but who actually owns the largest shares? Which International Banks are making the investments to build this? Do your home work. We have less to say about the destruction of our environment than we as individuals think.We have the education, knowledge, technology and experience to process dirty oil and make it more palatable environmentally rather than shipping that nasty stuff around. What we are not seeing is the will by our elected government to force the issue of upgrading the processing plants here.Do not get me wrong, we need to make some radical changes to ween ourselves off of fossil fuels. We also have the education, knowledge, technology and experience to create alternative energies but our federal government is not pushing it forward. No money in it.


Donaldbain
said

Yes, it is a Canadian issue, but it should be decided between BC and Alberta. We are the stakeholders here. The benefits to each province needs to be spelled out, including monies going directly to native bands. Ottawa has decided we aren't allowed to explore offshore in BC so we would like some of those petro-dollars too. If there ever was an issue for a referendum, this is it. It has to be built by Canadians, with Canadian materials and for Canada, not for China and not the US. We need to benefit, not some international company.


Vinny Vanchesco
said

This 'foreign meddling' angle is just a distraction; lets focus on the facts regarding the risks and benefits of this project. Personally, I don't think any short term gain, mainly for Alberta and the Feds, is worth the risk of ruining our coast with a major supertanker accident. Its not IF an accident will happen, only WHEN.Refine the bitumen here in Canada.


robert
said

The Northern Gateway pipeline is not being represented fairly in the media; there are larger issues at play than just royalties, temporary construction jobs, and the potential for fouling of remote beaches off Canada's Pacific Coast. Consider that China, one of our largest trading partners, gets a significant amount of its petroleum from Iran. With conflict looming in the Persian Gulf, our Prime Minister appears to feel strongly that Canada must do its part to supplement the Chinese oil supply. This is probably necessary in orderto secure Chinese support for international action against Iran as this action will result in significant interruptions to Chinese oil imports. The situation is complicated by the fact that Canadians are net importers of oil as well, with an increasing fraction of our domestic consumption coming directly from OPEC. Of greater importance is that Canada is the largest exporter of oil and gas to the United States, greater even than Saudi Arabia. If the Persian Gulf supply to the US and Canada is impeded, Canada will be required to continue to meet our petroleum export obligations under the the Free Trade Agreement. A more long term energy plan for Canada will hopefully look to developing the infrastructure with which we can meet our domestic supply needs using tar sands oil, but the more immediate concern is to buffer the Chinese domestic oil supply. A shock to the global petroleum market as a result of conflict in the Persian Gulf will devastate the already battered world economies. No wonder our Prime Minister and his supporters are in such haste to see this project completed, it's clearly the right thing to do. 


Reece
said

They are trying to make this an us vs them issue. My neighbours to the south of me would be equally impacted by an oil spill as I would be. They dont get to voice their concerns? Why the heck not? Again, if it doesnt make sense its probably designed to misdirect and confuse you. The issue is this...do you support having Albertas tail pipe lying atop of prestine British Columbia forests and water ways and risking all of it so that the oil execs, Albertans, their shareholders etc can make some more money? Do you want to risk it all?


Paul
said

Our livelihoods are based on oil at this point in time. No one can dispute that....it's a fact. Should this change, probably but right now we are where we are. How is it that Canadians and obviously Americans can fight against this pipeline....does that mean they are supporting hardline dictatorships, anti-human rights governments and non-democratic regimes around the world that are typical of locations where oil comes from to fill your gas tank?Come on people, there is a balanced approach needed. Keep the jobs and economic prosperity here in Canada. When the money stays here, it helps our economy, helps fund our health care system, helps fund our social safety net, etc, etc.


PBW
said

When even Kennedy admits it is ". . . ultimately a Canadian issue" he and the other Big Name Yankees opposed should just butt out and accept what Canadians have to say.


Jim-Surrey
said

This is an issue for tax paying people of BC and Alberta and NO one else, especially American actors.WE don't tell them how to act so they don't need to be telling us how to create jobs and revenue.I do agree GOOD safety procedures need to be in place to keep the oil IN the pipeline and not have leaks or spills or idiots blowing the line up!Let get on with it and put people to work and make money for the provinces!!!


jjaycee
said

So very right! There will be many Americans that try to stop this from going because they will lose hugely financially. If the Oil goes to texas it will go from there to China. We will sell it to them cheap and they will be the "middle man". Why should we not sell directly to China?The environmentalists would rather see the world come up with some kind of "Fairy Tale" substance that will make their friends millions of developement dollars and then not do the job. Yes we need to come up with something else eventually, but in the meantime Oil is King.They have already said the pipeline will mostly be over ground-the same way it is in most of Alaska-anywhere there is Permafrost. There have been nearly 150,000 Tankers, full of oil, that have been shipped from Valdez since the Exxon was grounded by it's drunken Captain.. These have all gone safely down the west coast of Canada with no further misshaps.


Andrew Godon
said

Do Ms. Clark's comments include the many foreign backers of the pipline, mostly international oil interests?


Allan
said

Sorry I will never believe a word Christie has to say. Her government has done more harm to the workers of BC than any other in power. No wonder most of the the high skilled workers have given up and moved else where. Too much government meddling.


George V.
said

This meddling by the Americans in Canadian interests is unacceptable they should stay out of our affairs, let Canadians decide what is good for Canada, They certainly wouldn't appreciate Canada meddling in their affairs or politics. This reminds me of the unions in the last Ontario provicial elections providing Liberal Dalton McGuity and his ilk with millions of dollars for negative advertizing and party support, paid by membership dues from workers who's last thing in life would be to vote Liberal. They had a definite influence on the outcome of this election. What promises and concessions were they given for this support. What benefits are the Americans getting or expecting.

concerned in BC
said

Christy Clark: We have already seen what the liberal government has done for jobs in BC. All Promises! The pipeline is a surething for creating jobs in areas that have 70 percent unemployment rates. It needs to be done in an enviromental way. Surely there is room for compromise on both sides. It is obvious that it is needed in the US.


Prof Bar Graph
said

But "debate" between people with "informed opinions" is a socialist plot to attack the poor, hard working corporations who stand to profit from this pipeline! So what if it may do irreparable damage to the environment, thirty percent of Canadians voted Conservative knowing full well that a vote for Harper was a vote for corporate profits. Clearly he has a mandate from the people to hand out money to the oil companies and if you don't like it you should go back to Russia comrade!


Steve
said

It is amazing that the politicians cannot see what a bunch of hypocrites they are, arguing that people concerned about the planet from elsewhere should have no say yet the politicians are singing from the song sheet provided to them by multinational oil companies who only want to make as much money as possible with absolutely no concern about the province of BC, it's wildlife, or it's people.


Sailor Girl
said

Over the years I have visited many countries and places where UN selected and protects World Heritage Sites. Every country should be sovereign. But when it comes to developing countries or small nations, sovereignty is just an ideology, when larger nations make any demands. Environmental and human rights' matters are global and should be without borders. Water and air are shared globally as if pollution. For example, in case of oil spills even neighbouring nations can be affected. Canadian fresh watersheds require protection from oil production and pipes. I wish Canadian governments or provinces would fight harder when it is about BC Forest and Nafta rules or different human rights issues around the world. Americans should not have anysay, however this affects them and us. I have always fought against 'Americanization', but I doubt Kennedy is trying to overrun Canadian decision making processes rather than just drawing global attention to the issue. Like majority of Canadians I do not accept shipping jobs away ...


Doug ^^^ BC
said

Putting aside the pipeline itself,I totally agree that this issue should be decided by people in Canada.People with all the information they need to make an informed decision. People rightly point out that foreign companies are lobbying on behalf of the project.And we do know that they will make their case. But when it comes to "charitable foundations" in the USA lobbying to stop the project,the validity of their right to do that comes under a cloud of suspicion.The problem with their lobbying,is that it's all so secretive.There is no way to FOLLOW THEIR MONEY.Transparency as to who is paying whom is not required of groups who are paying a lot to stop the pipleline.For all we know it could be millionaires and billionaires who want the USA to have EXCLUSIVE access to the oil in Alberta.There are even rumours in BC's north west,that some First Nation people have been paid with US dollars,to make sure the west coast pipeline does not happen.In polite circles that would be called "buying infuence" with money donated to US "charities",and then laundered into Canada,disguised to look like environmental donations. I am unsure about the pipleine.But I am very sure of one thing.This money must be traced back to it's sources.It goes to motivation and accountablity.Both of those are vital to an open discussion,and a big part of an "informed" decision. If the USA is paying to stop this project,we all have a right to know that.We already know that we are more dependent on the USA if our only market for this oil is the USA.And we know that a Canada with other markets for this oil is NOT what the USA wants.


Albertas oil is unethical
said

I am a British Columbian. This pipe line will not lower our taxes. The price of transit will continue to increase. EI payments have risen, property taxes, car insurance, and we will not be entitled to any royalties. Not that I care about those things when we place our sensitive enviornment at risk for the risk of Albertans. This is an Alberta vs BC issue. And yes, oil pipelines do fail and oil rigs do fail and ships will fail. The oil rigs were touted as cutting edge technology and safety. Get it? There is no guarantees. And the Exxon Valdez spill is still there. There is contaminents and damage to this day.

TomMcIn
said

The Harper/Oliver/Boessenkool/Clark comments arrived sooner than expected.Its OK for foreign sources such as Enbridge, Petro China and others to support the Tar Sands Pipeline but not any non-Canadian support that identifies the risk of pipeline spills, tanker accidents or loss of adding Canadian value to Canadian tar sands.


wolff
said

Watch the Doc: Gasland...then after that think gulf of Mexico!! . Maybe the Americans should concentrate their manipulative ways on themselves and keep the bullcrap they preach to themselves!!!!!


Ernie Leduc AB
said

I find it curious that I never heard a peep from Mr.Kennedy and the Waterkeeper' when all that clean American offshore oil was filling the Gulf.


Mrs. I didn't get to vote!
said

When I found out about the pipeline going in & that there was a meeting regarding this, I was unable to put my name on the list to say my opinion about it, because it was past the deadline, which happened to be months ago!! I am not for it, because my whole family's main staple diet comes from our waters and our land, this is also how we make our living as well. It will ruin our food sources for a long time to come. Which is better? FOOD OR MONEY?? I VOTE NO & TO KEEP OUR WATERS AND LAND CLEAN!!! We cannot let Stephen Harper just ruin what makes BC so precious!


JP from Sk
said

She is absolutely correct...it's none of anyone else's business...


Andrew in Vancouver
said

I don't mind the pipeline going through but I have conditions. I want all the jobs to go to Canadians and at least half of those in B.C. to British Columbians. These oil companies could care less about local people and economies. They can work with British Columbians or forget it.


Jack Ru
said

Here's the problem though. It's a polarizing issue, and I agree 100% that it's our decision. But. To read some posts from out west you'd think Canadians from all provinces don't have a say in it. They go on and on about how it's their pipeline, and their jobs. Funny how Canada gets distilled down to a couple of provinces in that case. If the government is serious, then they'd real have a democratic vote on this. Allow ALL Canadian a say by holding a referendum, and allow every single Canada of voting age the right of say. Don't hold shadow backroom meetings. Don't say you speak for us, when you don't. Let every person have a say and we'll accept the results. Stop shoving the answers down our throats and you wouldn't find so many militant people voicing opposition to this project.There. I had my say.


Cliff in Ottawa
said

I think the B.C. Premier is absolutely correct. We don't need fanatics from other nations including Hollywood. We have enough here in Canada! Cannot understand why we would forgo all the economic benefits of this pipeline, as long as safety precautions are taken.


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