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The Canadian dollar, or loonie, is pictured in Vancouver, B.C., Sept. 22, 2011. (Jonathan Hayward / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
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A very minimal increase, most people won't even notice the impact. Hopefully the lower corporate tax rate will attract or at least retain businesses in Canada to help keep unemployment down.

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Prepare to have less take-home pay starting Jan. 1

Date: Wednesday Dec. 28, 2011 10:29 PM ET

OTTAWA — Even without major tax hikes, Canadians' take-home pay will get a little lighter starting Jan. 1.

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation says premium hikes for employment insurance and the Canada Pension Plan will collect an additional $306 per employee from workers and their employers in 2012.

Workers are seeing their EI premiums rise by five cents per $100 of insurable earnings to $1.83 on Jan. 1, while the maximum insurable pay increases to $45,900 from $44,200. In addition, the maximum pensionable earnings rise to $50,100 from $48,300.

That will take about $142 from employee paycheques who qualify for the maximum over the year. The hit on employers is slightly more, $164.

While governments did not directly raise taxes on incomes this year, the taxpayer association says Canadians will nevertheless have less money available to them for saving, investing or spending. He adds that payroll taxes make it more expensive for firms to hire.

"Across Canada there are governments that claim they are concerned about jobs and the economy, but at the same time they are taking hundreds of dollars of disposable income out of the pockets of Canadian families," said CTF federal director Gregory Thomas.

"Between the employer and employee, you have $6,630 of payroll taxes. That's the price of hiring a Canadian."

A spokesman for federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said the government has ushered in significant tax relief since 2006 and that the tax burden of Canadians is now the lowest in 50 years.

"There will (also) be absolutely no increase to the CPP contribution rate," added Chisholm Pothier, Flaherty's director of communications. "What is being adjusted is the maximum CPP contribution room only, something that happens every year to account for inflation."

He noted that the maximum CPP benefit increases by $320 to $11,840 in 2012.

The year's biggest tax change is not on the personal side, but in the 1.5 percentage point cut to the federal corporate rate to 15 per cent. In addition, some provinces are also dropping the provincial rate on corporations to 10 per cent.

The corporate tax reduction is the last phase of Ottawa's plan to bring Canada's combined rate to 25 per cent, from 43 per cent in 2000.

The reduction -- as well as an identical cut in 2011 -- was opposed by the opposition parties in the spring election campaign. They argued that given the weak economy, the estimated $6 billion in lost revenue could be better put to use to support jobs and economic growth. This year's decrease is estimated to be worth $2.85 billion.

The Conservatives responded that making Canada a low tax jurisdiction would benefit the economy in the long run. Flaherty has often cited the Forbes magazine designation of "best country for business" as evidence that his low tax policy is working.

"Canada now has an overall tax rate on new business investment that is substantially lower than you will find in any other G7 country and below the average of the member countries of the OECD (Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development," he said in Calgary last month while delivering the government's fall economic update.

Ottawa did give a break of sort to workers this year. In November, Flaherty halved the EI increase to five cents, rather than the previously scheduled 10 cents per $100 of insurable earnings, depriving the federal treasury of about $600 million in revenues.

Not all Canadians will experience the same tax bite this year, the taxpayers federation said. Some provinces are taking an additional cut.

For instance, residents of Manitoba, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island will pay more taxes if they simply keep up with inflation since those provinces don't index their tax brackets.

British Columbia residents will see their health tax rise by 6.4 per cent for couples, and 5.8 per cent for individuals.

And Quebec residents, already among the highest taxed in the country, will see their Quebec Pension Plan rates rise by 5.6 per cent to $2,342 on maximum eligible earnings. Quebec's EI rate is also increasing by 8.3 per cent to $675 at the top level, effective Jan. 1.

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KC BC
said

It is very common for public pensions to be integrated with CPP. At 65 your CPP plan kicks in and the amount is deducted from your personal pension amount. This is not just for the military. I would be very happy if Armed Forces members could keep both though. I agree with the comment below; too much "free' . We have become a nation of the government handout just like the European socialist states. Work ethic and lower expectations will help along with sound government policies based on conservative values. If you want to go back 200 years, kick all of the evil corporations out.

Al in MB
said

Peter in MB: As a member of the military, I pay CPP and superannuation. When eligible for CPP, that amount is clawed back from the pension. The pension is not taxpayer funded, I have paid into it over the past 30 years as have other military members (its such a great fund that the Feds borrow from it all the time). I have also paid maximum EI over the past 30 years and will never be eligible to collect. For us military folks, EI is just a tax and not an insurance plan. The Treasury Board actuaries estimate that on average, military pensioners collect for only six years before we drop dead. Our pension plan is a fine government revenue generator, if I had the option of putting my contributions into an RSP at least my children could inherit something.The Feds unveiled a pooled pension plan for the public this year, and all we heard was griping. You don't get something for nothing. If you want similar benefits, you can either learn to save or you can look in theyellow pages under recruiting.


every new year is depressing
said

During the last forty years practically every new year there has been less take home money per capital for the average worker in Canada and the U.S. That is the reason why I never celebrate new year`s anymore. Each passing new year becomes worse for almost everything.


pegger
said

The reason that Forbes magazine rates Canada as a good place to invest is our educated workforce, and our low prices for resources and electricity.
Polls taken ahead of harpo's latest corporate tax cut showed that corporations were satisfied with the rate they were already paying but Steve-o insisted on giving them the gift!
Did it result in any more investment or hiring? NO!


noodle
said

It is interesting how they government spins this. Today its because unemployment is growing , yet the preceeding monthes , its been "unemploymentis stable , or going down". Anything but the truth to keep the people all is well, and not to worry.People do not forget this is the same government that came into power with a surplus in EI and VOTED to reallocate the BILLIONS for their other short falls.Whatever they call it it is still wrong. It's veryinteresting though the people still don't revolt and put their heads on the block. And yes sorry to say the Liberals did the same shell game.


Greg
said

This is what we get for voting conservative, more taxes & taxes on the taxes but big business gets big tax breaks so the CEO's can make an extra couple of million. Harper just keeps increasing the size of government & the working man pays for it.


George
said

This is just the beginning once Harper's policies kick in expect even bigger tax increases, the neo-cons have been spending like drunken sailors of course they're going to take more.


mimi2005
said

Harper should have kept the gst at 7%. Now he has to nickle and dime our paycheques to pay for E.I. and C.P.P.


jvg
said

Hello All
Wow ,You all sound like us in the US. I travel around alot in Canada and have wondered when all your good faith in programs that cover everyone would catch up with you. Seems like what happen to us is headed your way. Higher taxes to cover alll the good will that has went nuts!!!! Same here too much free , to much having to give in to corps to keep them in the counry. I hope you all find a solution. We been battling this for years. Mybe the solution is stop the spending that both our countries cant afford anymore?


milguy
said

@peter in MB, just a correction to your statement about military persons collecting both CPP and their mil pensions. Your statement as written is correct, yes we can draw both however the amount collected in CPP is subtracted from our monthly Military pension. So we are required pay in to both but really only collect one pension, yet another sacrifice we make for our country, you're welcome.


dyoung
said

Here's a thought. Why don't we do away with the CPP fund and have the gov't withdraw the amount they do and place it a personal investment plan they create for each eligible Canadian. I know at the end of my work life that if they took the $60 some they take from each of my pay and place it into my own personal investment, I would not have to worry about my retirement. The gov't then can chose to raise the percentage take every five years based on cost of living increases during that period.


AC in NB
said

I have no pproblem with the EI and CPP preimum increases, most of us will benifit from them in the long term. However the same cannot be said for corporate tax cuts. They do nothing for the economy, all they do is line the pockets of the CEO's and board of directors.


Alexandria
said

I would like to tell all you complainers if you do not like paying for benefits that we have in Canada, move to the middle east or Africa or some other Country were you do not pay for benefits.You do not pay because there are no benefits in these Countries but People still pay taxes.


Larry I Ontario
said

More conservative lies1 Sure they are lowering taxes! What a bunch of baloney. They never lower taxes without getting it somewhere else. Have we not learned anything from the days of Mike Harris lies? Conservatives never give you the entire picture.


Dave in Edm
said

Corporate taxes go down and personal taxes go up... Don't worry folks, when the rich guy buys a new Ferrari with his big corporate bonus, he won't have to pay 7% GST he will only pay 5%... So ya, $250,000 car saves the rich man $5,000, but hey you saved a whooping 4 cents on that loof of bread...


Karen
said

It always amazes me how the government thinks that reducing Canadians' take home pay will help the economy. Let's see.... I make less money, I spend less money. How does that help stimulate the economy?


marcelg
said

HEY, That's ok, keep taking my money. When there is none left, I will go to the food banks and try for welfare and any other money I can squeeze out of the government. Canadians keep voting for governements that want your hard earn money so who am I to try and change things. I just can't wait to give more and more.


Chris
said

I am really tired of working to pay for those who choose not to.


stubble jumper
said

Don't you people read anything? Why are you making uninformed accusations about the CPP changes? CPP is managed by provincial and federal representatives, and not controlled by Stephen Harper. A few years ago, CPP management changed the rules of CPP early benefits and future contributions. This was done to make sure the plan is sound and to account for future higher than normal benefit clams due to the aging baby boomers. The CPP continues to be a sound plan. Do you think the European's actions are better, like knee jerk reacting to possible bankrupcy as the markets have dictated to them? Please read up on the changes to CPP!


CityCitizen
said

Hmmm, so the conservatives are boasting about providing a lower tax burden and justifying the increases in EI and CPP, yet salaries have been frozen and the cost of everything else has gone.., i.e insurance, fuel, groceries, utilities, etc. So where is the extra income suppose to come when it is frozen (or where people have been laid off) to support these increasing costs? Example: My house insurance went up $800 and car insurance went up $150 - this with a clean driving record and no claims in 38 years of driving or home ownership. Who covers the extra costs when salaries-if there is one - is at 0%??? Can't cut, water, hydro or nat gas either... The income tax cuts don't even cover a tank of gas these days...


TwigglesNBitz
said

Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Yup The PPL Who Call Your House During Dinnertime For A 100 Dollar Donation To Their Tax Organization And They Have Nothing To Offer, No Magazine, Not Even A "Tax" Receipt. Good Guys These CTF's...


Reece
said

Always on que the crowd that loves to be taxed can be counted on cooing the beauty of becoming more poor. Property taxes are up, water bills are up, transporation, gasoline, house insurance, and the constant threat of higher mortgage costs. Tell me Harper fanboys, what is it about Canadians that you hate most?


Donaldbain
said

CPP and EI are taxes. Just what we need, another nibble at our incomes.


missmae
said

If you didn't have all those people from the east coast going out west for a few months at a time and then heading home collecting EI as long as they can and then heading ack we wouldn't have all the increases. Why isn't the gov't cracking down on these people and forcing them to get year round employment?


Deidre
said

Now I know what the government does for a job. They sit back and go .... K, we can't screw up the hard workers with taxes as they will probably come back with protest, so lets screw them up this way....."We the government do not want Canadians getting rich or living in any type of comfort, unlike us the politicians that you slaves bow down and listen to, kissing our asses cause we tell you that is how it is going to be and you better damn well listen and like it." Well a big EFF U on that one. I pray poverty and despair on the government workers in their future or the despondent despair on their families.


dorri
said

It's about time someone did something. $340 a year from one's pay is no peanuts and the employed and their families will suffer as a result.


reidjr
said

Reece
It does not matter the party there still would be taxes its just spend it difference the cons on jails and miltary the libs on useless programs the ndp on social programs that will don't need.


Steve
said

To Peter in MB:You noted that military can collect CPP and EI. I just wanted to clarify that while we can collect CPP it is deducted 1:1 from our military pensions so we literally see no gain even though we pay into it for our entire life. Also as per EI, the only circumstance under which we can collect EI is if we take Parental leave. So for most of us we never get any benifit there either.

ogopogo lives at the legislature
said

Hey Canada:You voted for the CONservatives,now live with it and stop whinning!Better to live here than south korea.


Question ??
said

A Question. What kind of EI payouts will the NDP MPs from Quebec receive after the next election?


A Voice in Nanaimo
said

I understand the reason for the hike in Canada Pension. Baby boomers are all coming of age to retire and there just isn't enough money in the fund to cover what is going to be paid out. People who have worked all their lives and paid plenty into CPP will now be collecting and the money just isn't there anymore. Bad investing and bad economy can account for a lot of that. But financial irresponsibility has also drained the fund. It would be nice to know just where the money has been spent but I doubt that we would get a straight answer if we asked that question.


Steve G
said

I would have no problem paying more to ensure the health of these important programs. What gets me is how we need to pay more, yet there is enough money in the kitty to fund no strings attached corporate tax cuts. Once again, the 99% is paying for the 1%.


Imagine ??
said

Imagine the skyhigh dramatic CPP & EI hikes that would need to be in place if the Liberals/NDP ideas had been implemented?Thank gpodness for the Conservative government to keep these incrreases to a minimum while still improving the benefits.


Alicia
said

Peter, retired CF members are subject to a clawback of CPP from their pensions, even if they never draw on CPP. You aren't. this is fair how?


joanc
said

Why should it always be the employee that gets hit the hardest. If the government would look at their own salary and stop taking those big fat raises for themselves and start giving to the people who work and have to work for a living that would make more sense.


A Koster
said

More like sound the alarm at all the flags being thrown up by this increase in cpp payments... with $150 billion in the fund and only one third of it being used to make current payments then why?.. start with that other two thirds apparently not being needed until 2020 and in the meantime, being played on the stock markets and buying shopping malls and failing companies all over the world.. add the fact that the cpp fund has in fact, borrowed money to make investments.. and in the meantime, the ones who paid into this all over their lives for trustee ship by the government, can't even get a decent raise, especially for the most vulnerable and poorest seniors... this is an incomprehensible and extremely sad situation, especiallly where those same politicians have their own pensions guaranteed and puffed up to put themselves in a very comfortable place when they retire... god does not reside in a government as greedy, selfish, and downright intellectually challenged as this one... end game is make things better for everyone and not to make things better solely for yourself... duh.


Steve H
said

With Harper's mismanagement is all we have to look forward to is more taxes. Harper will go down as the worst PM in Canadian history.


Just Saying - Ottawa
said

We all know it has always been this way....and if we want to live and enjoy then we have to come across with the $$$ to pay for it...at least it is everyone paying...


Canadian Bob
said

Build more prisons! We need more Prisons! Buy jets... lots of them! Dig up as much of Alberta as you can and extract every little drip of oil possible! To hell with the environment, global w3arming is only a silly myth anyway. Eliminate corporate taxes altogether. Stop giving the provinces any money for health care, and increase EI and CPP premiums (and then kill both those programs as well). Canada needs more poor people and our rich people need more money. Give every Conservative MP and Minister a raise... in fact double their salaries now so all the stupid people in Canada will completely forget about it by the time the next election roles around, unless of course you agree with me that Harper should just pass a bill allowing his government to hold power for 8 or 12 years instead of 4 which we all know just doesn't give anyone enough time to completely destroy a country. C'mon people! Dig deeper. Sell your children to countries that make clothing for WalMart and claim the income on your 2012 income taxes. Get with the program will you?


peter in MB
said

@ John. You pay into EI when you are working in case you get hurt during your career of 25 or 35 years. After you retire you are no longer working and collect your pensions and you no longer pay into EI or get it because you are not working. It’s a simple concept if you look at in a common sense way. Military and government can also collect CPP at age 60 on top of their Military or government union pensions.


Tracey
said

all i have to say is that when it comes to taxes i dont mind paying my share if it goes towards things that need to be done..i barely make ends meet now yes maybe $300 doesnt seem like much now but it wont be the last time it goes up i think raising minimum wage was a joke,there was no point really, and what i dont understand with the number of canadians that pay into all these things every year how in the world can our gov't be in so much debt because from what i see in Nova Scotia our taxes havent gone to things that really need to be done, schools being shut and ER's closed because of lack of doctors. My son is 2 i dont want to think about what this country will be like in another 18 years. Thanks for letting me view my opinion CTV.


Tara
said

Not that I enjoy being taxed more, but particularily at this time of year, I reflect on how blessed I am, we all are, to live in this country. I have only collected EI the two times I went on maternity leave, and was grateful to have it. Even if I never collect it again, isn't it just nice to know it's there?


simone
said

You can't get EI unless you have paid into it -Jim in Surrey. I have only had to use it once and had absolutely no problem and was very thankful it was even there.One of the facts of life is that we have to work to support ourselves. EI is not a life style but help over a situation that may occur in anyone's life.


Linda in Vancouver
said

LOL!!! Lots of hypocricy here.Mostly by the usual suspects.The same Harper Haters who, when he lowered income taxes and the GST,claimed it was "peanuts"..Now in spite of the fact that these increases really are "peanuts",compared to his tax cuts,the same people are once again crying how Harper has the sky falling in. Before long people posting on here will be blaming him for the collapse of the Euro,or the setting of the sun. For what it's worth,those corporate tax cuts were causing people to invest in BC.That,in spite of the fact that local taxes and the PST/GST still make corporate taxes in Canada higher than our competition.We were at least becoming a little bit more competetive. Now,Queen Christy has raised corporate taxes, and the Premier in waiting is promising to raise them even higher.That,and a return to the old PST/GST regime,and projects in BC are facing cancellation. That tells me we will need all the EI money we can find.


xcon
said

does it include newly conservative hired government workers too?


Doug ^^^ BC
said

While I can agree that the middle of a major recession is hardly a good time to increase taxes on anything,the fact remains that both EI and CPP must be fully funded with their own premiums.People are already complaining that CPP Pensions should be higher.Surely no one is suggesting that we should take the money out of general revenue to do that.On the day that CPP becomes a "social program",rather than a pension plan,it's days are numbered. Similarly,it seems to me that if people want EII to py for a year off for new parents,want it to pay it to more people,and want those payements to be more generous and long lasting,someone has to pay for it. Besides.These increases are a pitance when compared to the increases and rip offs we undured at the hands of the last set of dictators with a majority in Parliament. Insurance and pension programs are quite simple in one regard.If you want to take more out, you have to put more in. Canadians are learning.Albeit slowly,that there is no such thing as "free".Government can only send you money,after they have taken it from someone else.I'm OK with none of these programs existing at all. If they lower my taxes accordingly,I can manage my own money.But apparently,the majority of people in Canada want that safety net. So,I am forced,by the political left, to participate, and pay for them.How that is not a major compromise on my part is a mystery to me.I'd be thrilled to neither pay into,or collect from either of these programs.


Reece
said

Thats what you get for voting in the Conservatives...TAX TAX TAX. You all deserve it. Enjoy your Mac and Cheese dinners and I assure you there is plenty more of those meals the longer this crew is in power. They love their taxes and buying Stealth jets to combat Stealth missiles may seem comical and stuff of Benny Hill but thats the reality we live in Canada today.


Chris in Kingston
said

Fear mongering by the media. $300 is nothing, and most people already have lower paycheques come January 1st because CPP and EI premiums are reinstated after having been maxed out in November and December. Clever how the article makes it seem like we're losing $300 a paycheque, but really its $300 over 26 paycheques (if you get paid every 2 weeks).


gratefulcanuck
said

This pretty much follows inflation. I hate paying taxes, but I do love our Prime Minister, he's done a remarkable job and will be remembered as the best PM in Canada's history. Just imagine if we were paying the Lib's carbon tax, higher income taxes thanks to the NDP, and unemployment was skyrocketing because the Grits and Dippers had raised corp taxes. Thank God for PM Harper and the Tories.


John
said

Then you have the Military and Government Employees retiring after 25 or 35 years and they are not allowed to collect EI because they have pensions yet the Governemnt still insist on them paying EI. Even if after retirment they decide to take a part time job they are still not allowed to collect EI as they get told you have a pension.


Player87
said

It's pathetic how many people get on here to complain about other people complaining - like we have no right to be upset about anything because we are so lucky. To all those who put down anyone here, get another hobby! You are worse than the complainers.


DOUGY
said

has everyone to be affected, become aware of next years changes to CPP.....the new Post Retirement Benefit...PRB...read up on this one folks....if you are between 60-65 ...and are collecting CPP..working/self-employed...you and your employer will HAVE to contribute to this fund..you begin to collect from it in 2013..on a yearly basis, but only a small portion..it will take about 8-10 yrs. to get it back...and could be dead before you can...it's a tax grab for us seniors...


ToldYouSo
said

Remember this when it's time to vote, people keep complaining that we are being taxed to death and businesses get all the breaks, but when it comes to voting time the majority keep letting the conservatives back in, who do what they always do. Give breaks to business and the rest of us pay for it, especially lower and middle class.STOP VOTING CONSERVATIVE if you want to see anything change


KC BC
said

Here we go again with whining that increases of fees and taxes are unfair and target the youth and the middle class is disappearing. These times are no different than the late 70's and early 80's. Mortgage rates then were 18% and unemployment was up to 9%. Quit whining and tighten up like most of us have done in the past. Don't buy the: i pads, i pods, i phones , digital tv's ,etc. Quit demanding more time off with pay from your employers. Work an extra job if you must. IT HAS ALL HAPPENED BEFORE!


Soul Train
said

It's time for a re-vamp of the EI system. It's just not relevant to current economic ebb and flow. It needs a rethink from top to bottom. Currently it's a cash cash that gets dumped into general revenue and disappears.


Patrick
said

@Chris in Edmonton ,As for the country being bankrupt. Not to sure if you took a good look around Canada as of late, but between the provinces and the Federal government, we are already over 1 trillion in debt. As for the GST, well I can control how much money I spend on GST items, but I cannot control my paycheck and how much I make there. So when you say the "Liberals would have us with higher taxes" and that the "NDP would bankrupt us" You might want to look over that right shoulders of yours and take a good look to the left, centre and behind you too.


James
said

@Chris in Edmonton: Taxes would be astronomical under the Liberals or NDP? Prove it. You're aware that the only people who buy in to this type of straw man are already totally delusional? Seems to me that Harpo's plan to fleece Canadians by adding various "service charges" or "premium increases" is no different from a tax increase. The only people who actually believe this garbage have been drinking the Con kool-aid for so long they have already lost their tenuous grasp on reality.


Tim
said

I dont know why people are complaining. The reality is there are lots of people retiring. I don't make a lot of money but it's ~$12 /month extra, big whoop. Rates have to go up eventually thats the price of inflation.

With corporate tax cuts, businesses can give thier employees raises, and bigger bonuses. They can also hire unemployed people reducing the burdne on EI.



peter in BC
said

Just remember that this is the same guy who boasted "no new tax hikes" for Canadians because we were already over taxed. Fact is, the Conservatives have always believed in new taxes to help with their spending. Who do you think brought in the GST? Harper cut it 2 points and he has to make up for the shortfall somehow. Feeble election promise to gain his majority but few of you thought about the consequences of such a cut. I'm going to predict the future for you here.....more subtle tax increases that the Con supporters will say are necessary because of what the Liberals did. Oh how the political blinders that you wear are so fantastic. Tax increases are coming. You already pay over half of your hard earned money to this government. So much for a democratic country. It's becoming a joke. One can argue that there are worse places in the world to live, but think of it like this.....are we on the right track for Canadians? Perhaps we are just one of the better countries out of all the worst countries to live? After all, it was a Conservative government who introduced "temporary" income taxes during the war which remain in place today. Tax, tax, tax. That's all politicians do and it is in the name of balancing budgets and eliminating deficits (which no government successfully ever does). You want the occupy movement to have a purpose, this could do?


half empty
said

I know, if you lose your job and can't find work elsewhere, talk a gander down to the recruiting office and sign up. Its a guaranteed paycheck, job security, and you even get your own pension! Of course you will still be paying into CPP and EI even though you will never actual get it... On second thought maybe sitting at home collecting a welfare check is easier! Welcome to Canada!


Samantha
said

If my contributions towards these programs means that someone going through a rough time can get help, then I am happy to do it. I dont care if its a few more dollars here or there, I am still happy to do it. THAT IS PART OF BEING CANADIAN! Taking care of our fellow Canadians. Stop your selfish complaining and just remember, it could be you needing help someday.


redfelt
said

As with most of the comments people post these are no different. They launch into an anti Harper tirade about every little headline that provides one piece of information. The (EI) is a system that has been going for decades and the government of the day has to provide means to balance it. Do you not recall last year the extension of EI benefits for those that most needed it in the time of global economic hardship? As I recall the opposition wanted more money and longer benefits and the government met them part way. The increase is a result of those extended benefits and higher unemployment not some tax grab for the coffers.So sad that so many cannot see past 2 feet in front of their faces


Dave Edmonton
said

Has it ever been more? With governments and industry giving employees either nothing or 1 or 2% of course the working class will never gain even though politians or CEO (Executives) give themselves raises, they want employees to take nothing yet have governments take more out the working class pockets.


roy
said

I might add to all you winers out there that constantly complain about the Harper government as a senior citizen I am actually helping to educate YOUR children of WHICH I am not happy about so stop your bloody crying that means you can go without a few cups of Java each week,no matter how much more they charge for a cup you still buy it.


Brad
said

As for paying more, a surprise its Canada the highest taxed Industrialized nation on earth!The underground economy is thriving!


BUZZ
said

STOP WHINING! We are lucky to be in Canada. The Government here at least cares! In many Asian countries, you die, you die and the Government do not care. The social benefits here are a lot better than most Asian countries. The Canadian Government will NOT let the people die here in Canada or neglect the needy!


Todd in BC
said

With the aging demographic I can understand why there needs to be an increase to CPP, but EI has been over-funded for years and the regional disparities means it's a very expensive welfare program for certain parts of Canada. When one considers the number of unfilled jobs in Canada I think we need to seriously reconsider how the current EI adminstration might actually be working to reduce Canada's productivity. Free money makes people lazy.If the government needs extra cash maybe they should consider charging "Canadians" living abroad (those with passports but not intention of living in Canada until they need the social safety net) a yearly fee.


TC
said

The Harper government ran record deficits. Spent without any accountability. There will be many more tax increases.


Steve
said

I can't believe EI premiums are going up HUNDREDS for employees and employers. Harper is destroying Canada. I agree with jsb, I would wish I were dead if it didn't cost so much.


kenl77
said

Yes, this is necessary.Working Canadians, most of whom are ineligible for EI benefits, must help in the face of tremendous hardships faced by businesses in Canada. Things are so hard in fact that Federal business taxes rates will fall from 18% to 14% on Jan 1. Corporations and the rich really need our help.


Rick W in BC
said

As much as I agree with most of the posts below, we all are overlooking one important thing. We voted this government in, we gave Harper his majority by buying into his line of BS. Unfortunately what were the alternatives except maybe the NDP. Either way we are getting just what we deserve and will keep getting it for another 3 years. God help us all.


Lona G
said

When the Canadian people are struggling just to make ends meet, doesn't it make more sense to cut government spending instead of making the people pay more to support this outrageous spending, like what Tony Clement did in his riding. And then, there is the Senate that the majority of Canadians don't want or need. I think we need an overhaul in Government spending.


Jay
said

the Liberals are out! why are people still acting like they are still in, they should have to pay back all the money that they took from us,for the last 50 years, and is this increase all for that 50 million that's missing. Canadian's will never know how to run their own country until they stand up and say" this is my land, I was born here and no one is going to push me off of IT!"


DRR
said

Amazing how people don't read very well. For the additional $142.00 the employee pays the employer your employer pays an additional $164.00.


terry
said

I never paid ,nor collected EI. I am self employed all my working life .I think the ones that collects every year from working for a company that lays them off every winter or whatever , the company should be may to pay extra towards the person wage that is being laid off. The companies that does that, is being rewarded by the rest of the people who pay in but never collects.



Will
said

Anyone who is wondering why need only recall the chretien/martin rape of the EI and CPP funds, in order to falsely claim a surplus. And of course they also stole the public service, RCMP and military pension funds as well.


TEA from Sask
said

It's time for all governments to reduce taxes and spending...why bother going out to work when most of your money is taken from you?


brenda51
said

look, us retiree's did our thing paying into CPP, etc..now it's up to you younger folks...and yes, we got rate hikes as well to pay for those who went before us...that's thhe way this country rolls folks...deal with it!~


Kitlope
said

Hey - you dumb dumbs voted the conservaties in with a majority. Don't be complaining here folks - the middle class is disappearing and it's mostly the people's fault anyways.


Anonymous
said

Without the middle-class there can never be a transfer of wealth to the poor and wealthy - just a hamster trapped in a rotating wheel to keep society going.


Chris in Edmonton
said

You people are a bunch of whiners. It is pathetic to hear the same posters complain over and over again. We could always raise the GST back up to 7% if that would make you feel better. Why don't you get a calculator and figure out where you would lose more money. 5 cents per $100 is 50 cents per 1000. Not even the cost of a smalkl coffee. Get over it people. If we were run by a Liberal government taxes would be much higher. Or worse yet if the NDP were in power we would have astronomical taxes and the country would be bankrupted paying for all the social programs. But you cluless Harper haters will whine about anything even if it is something that benefits you.The Liberals all but decimated the EI fund in case you have forgotten.


RZ
said

For shame! Those corporate tax cuts need to be reversed in order to either balance the budget sooner or focus on key priorities (e.g. education, health care, environment). Oh wait. I guess neither of these are a priority for those Conservatives in power. Oh, why does there need to be such a fragmentation of the progressive vote?


BILL
said

So let's say the majority of EI/welfare goes towards rent, the next major expense is food. For EVERYBODY'S sake, BUY A FARM! You need a job?? you go to school short term funded by the gov't to learn a trade and then you go work on a farm. The farm then produces the veggies, dairy, meat required to help supply food. Therefore less money spent on food and more money used for other items, you created a working farm where people work for their keep plus learn valuable skills.


Dave
said

EI isn't really insurance: it's current structure is not based on risk. There are many Cdns who will never collect based on the nature of their employment and contracts, but still pay into the system. Too bad we can't opt out of this system.


Reality
said

This is nothing new. I don't expect my government to help my future anyways.


sara macdonald
said

this is one of the reasons i became part of the occupy protest movement.


carmenlacombe
said

yes sure take less from the big shot they dont survive with pay to pay basic but we do great gouvernement when are they going to think about the lower people with less pay it is about time soemone rise to take cvare of us little people i am 61 years and I have to work my ass off to be abble just to eat
Can I have a job in the liberal or in the conservateur I will show them what is a gouvernement for the people is


Tractorgurl
said

Minimal or not, it all adds up. I am tired of the government always putting their hand in my pocket. Is it any wonder people look for ways to avoid paying tax.


RWR
said

This on top of not receiving any kind of increase since July of 2007. It may be a small amount but the small amounts add up.


TD Sellers
said

As per what Joanna in AB said....I worked for over 35 yrs before retiring and never made a UIC claim. Yes I call it UIC not EI that seems to make it more politically correct today.Never the less, it should be structured like true insurance if it truly is an insurance program. In other words those who do not claim get lower premiums, those who claim or claim frequently have higher premiums. Why should all workers have to pay a TAX to support others??EI right......Employment Insurance......what a load....insured to be employed???


Over morning coffee
said

Great. It's a toss up now. Time to move or just sign my pay over to the Government every 2 weeks


MADE OF MONEY?
said

Wonderful, we are already struggling to make ends meet. Pay cheques are not keeping pace with the cost of living. Our standard of living continues to erode and then our politicians have the audacity to say we need to save more for retirement. And where is the savings supposed to come from? The tooth fairy!


Rick in Que
said

Well isn't that just great ! .i get to pay more in taxes, just so some fatcat CEO can take home a bigger end of year bonus .Meanwhile Canadian seniors across the country have to watch every penny they spend or try to save to buy the next tin of tuna fish so they can have at least one meal a day .That 1.5 % tax cut to corporations could have made a good start to a seniors assistance fund , but nah why would the government do anything nice to help the seniors who worked to build this country ?? ..Stories like this just leave me wanting to kick a politician .


Steve in Manotick
said

We take home less but the big Corporations get a tax cut. Where are the jobs these corporations were to create according to the conservative BS they touted before the election?


beancounter
said

A very minimal increase, most people won't even notice the impact. Hopefully the lower corporate tax rate will attract or at least retain businesses in Canada to help keep unemployment down.


Intelligent Liberal
said

This is a much better story than the "Liberals are Buried" one. So Harper is reducing corporate taxes and increasing EI deductions is he? All that does is create a pool of wealth for the unemployed Occupy Movement, who annoyed me when I tried to walk my cat in the park a while ago. Harper's secret agenda to feed the unemployed instead a making them work for a living is creating a cat-hating Culture of Socialist Dependence.


Marilyn
said

i dont think the government should be taking EI premiums off seniors once they start collecting CPP and OAS. It is a big rip-off and should be discontinued.


Joanna in Alberta
said

Anyone else find this shocking? They raise our taxes and cut business tax? This only hurts the middle class and the lower end of the scale. Absolutely ridiculous the average joe struggles, business gets a break and the gov't is laughing all the way to the bank. Yes I believe unemployment is a tax. It is a good program but yet how many out there never make a claim. My husband has worked for 25 yrs and never made a claim. I've only claimed for 2 maternity leaves which I've paid way more into it then I received for all my working years as well. Remember this when you vote next time!


jsb
said

Great Government.
Soon there will be no pay to take home.


No wonder so many people can't survive.




Susan in Orleans
said

Great - We can't get a break no matter what - the middle income earner will feel this but no one else really will.


lol
said

Cut taxes on businesses and raise them on people. Seems fair. Oh wait. This means they go up for businesses as well. Love how some people in the last election voted for these guys because "they won't raise taxes like those evil Liberals or NDP." Oh well. Another lie by the Cons fully believed (and about to be defended I suspect) by their supporters.


Happy New Year!
said

Isn't this so much in keeping with the governmet! A new year- more to pay!


Jim-Surrey
said

Well if we didn't give EI funds to those that don't contribute there would be NO need for an increase.But we still funnel monies to arriving immigrants who don't qualify!!!This MUST STOP!!!!


RS
said

So what?Canada is still the best country in the world to live in.


BILL
said

Enough is enough. I'm filing a retroactive Ei claim for 2 months I didn't work. Forget you trying to take more out of my pocket!


Steve T
said

I continue to find the EI / unemployment insurance structure in this country ridiculous. I have been working since I was 14 years old, and have never filed an EI claim in my life. Yet my EI premiums are the same as the chronically unemployed. How is that fair? Any other type of insurance involves higher premiums for those who make more frequent claims. If I crash my car every year, I will (and should) pay a higher premium than someone with a safe driving record. Why is EI different?


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