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Is new shipbuilding program end of boom and bust?

Jim Irving, right, CEO of Irving Shipbuilding, greets workers at the announcement that Halifax Shipyard is getting the $25 billion contract to build 21 Canadian combat ships, in Halifax on Oct. 19, 2011. (Andrew Vaughan / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Irving shipyard, Nova Scotia, deal Ottawa to announce $35B in shipbuilding contracts Ottawa to announce $35B in shipbuilding contracts
Jim Irving, right, CEO of Irving Shipbuilding, greets workers at the announcement that Halifax Shipyard is getting the $25 billion contract to build 21 Canadian combat ships, in Halifax on Oct. 19, 2011. (Andrew Vaughan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Perhaps skilled workers in the ship yards that didn't win the competitive bidding should consider moving to the yards that do have work and need skilled workers.

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Is new shipbuilding program end of boom and bust?

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Is new shipbuilding program end of boom and bust?

Date: Thursday Dec. 29, 2011 7:19 AM ET

HALIFAX — The last time Ottawa promised a new era in Canadian shipbuilding, it didn't end well for Douglas Noftell.

The 59-year-old was among the last group of workers who walked out of the Irving shipyard in Saint John, N.B., in 2003 after spending much of his working life at the once-bustling facility.

The closure of the yard, which at its peak employed more than 3,000 people who built high-tech frigates, left highly specialized workers struggling to find new work, Noftell said.

"A lot of guys got divorced and lost homes and houses," he said. "A lot of guys committed suicide."

The federal government says this time will be different as it launches a $35-billion program to build Canada's next fleet of combat and non-combat ships.

As winner of the $25-billion combat ship contract, the Irving shipyard in Halifax will be responsible for building 21 vessels. Seaspan Marine Corp. of Vancouver will construct seven vessels under its $8-billion agreement to build non-combat ships.

The national shipbuilding procurement program aims to end the boom and bust cycle of the industry and replace it with a steady flow of work to sustain highly skilled jobs over 20 to 30 years.

John Shaw, a vice-president at Seaspan, said he doesn't believe a collapse in work will occur for his company.

Shaw said there will be further opportunities to build yet-to-be-tendered coast guard ships beyond the non-combat contract.

"We feel we would be one of the two competitive shipyards in Canada," he said. "We would be in a competitive situation to look forward to those additional coast guard vessels."

He said Seaspan could also compete to bid on polar icebreakers required by other countries.

Officials with Irving did not return messages seeking comment.

Peter Cairns, president of the Shipbuilding Association of Canada, agrees with Shaw, saying he believes Ottawa has learned to space work out and concentrate it in a few yards.

The key to sustainability will be timing, he said.

During the 1980s and 1990s, the navy work was divided between several yards, including the one in Saint John and the Davie shipyard in Levis, Que.

When the navy work was completed by the mid-1990s, the federal Liberal government of the time wasn't ready to order another fleet of warships.

Efforts to sell the Irving-built frigates overseas failed, and the Saint John yard couldn't find enough commercial work to sustain itself.

Cairns says the difference now is that the Irving shipyard in Halifax has 30 years to build warships and coast guard vessels and by the time they're all complete, there could be a fresh round of government work.

"Theoretically we have a system that can perpetuate itself for quite some period of time," he said.

"This is probably one of the best things to come to shipbuilding in most of our lifetimes."

Seaspan is expected to complete its work in less than a decade, which should help position it to bid on other federal contracts in the decades to come, Cairns said.

He said previously, no single centre in Canada developed into an internationally competitive shipbuilding powerhouse.

Halifax is poised to fulfil that role this time. One projection from the Atlantic Provinces Economic Council estimates 11,500 jobs would be created in Nova Scotia, with 1,700 directly at the yard.

But in Levis, Que., Paul-Andre Brulotte of the Union of Shipyard Workers of Lauzon says while the shipbuilding policy may work in Halifax, it's not creating a national industry.

The Davie Shipyard has been left to bid on the $2 billion for small federal ships. Otherwise, it will rely on commercial and provincial contracts to survive.

The yard on the south shore of the St. Lawrence River was once the largest in the country, and it built a series of Tribal-class destroyers in the 1980s and 1990s.

Now, there are only 25 workers at the site, Brulotte said.

The owners of Davie, the Upper Lakes Group of Toronto, have won contracts for two provincial ferries and are in negotiation to complete some partially finished vessels in the shipyard. There are plans to hire back hundreds of workers for those jobs.

But Brulotte said beyond that, he's wondering what will happen.

"The future is worrying," he said.

He said Ottawa could have spread the work around more evenly and still have created pockets of shipbuilding expertise across the country.

"We could have had enough work (from Ottawa) for the next 15 or 18 years and three yards could have modernized and progressed to the point where they could do better in the commercial sector," he said.

John Dewar, vice-president for the Upper Lakes Group, echoed similar concerns.

"Those shipyards that won, they will have assured work," he said. "But it doesn't do anything to address boom and bust cycles for us."

He said the Canadian industry still faces heavily subsidized competitors in Europe and the Far East for construction of commercial vessels.

Cairns said the shipbuilding lobby is pushing Ottawa to renew financing assistance for Canadian ship owners to encourage the construction of vessels in Canada.

The industry also wants Ottawa to set up a long-term ship financing program in Canada similar to the Title XI loan guarantee program in the U.S., where the U.S. government backs loans for ships built in the U.S. for up to 25 years, he added.

Dewar said these measures would be helpful for shipyards scrambling for other work.

In Saint John, Noftell said even the shipyards that won the multibillion-dollar deals will face major challenges, including the need to make upgrades and overcome trained worker shortages.

"They're going to need experienced shipbuilders. There's not that many yet," he said.

"You can't just throw a lot of graduates out of school and expect to build a ship. People don't realize how much there is to it. There's a lot to it."

But he said he's hopeful this shipbuilding contract will work out better for people who devote their working lives to the military projects.

"They're not going to close the door in their face like they did here," he said.

"It's still a bitter pill for me to swallow."

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Mark
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35 bn$ is a heavy price tag to keep a noncompetitive industry alive for few years. Canadian public must remember how many billions of $ were wasted on those used UK submarines that have never gone into service - a good example of "competent" navy experts employed by the government back then.


JB in Ontario
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This could be good news or many years to come for Halifax! Lots of jobs possibly.


Bob Fenton
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Shipbuilding Boom or BustOf course all of the optimisim is based on the government actually following through on having these vessels built !!!


Paul ~ Kitchener
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This is the kind of positive job creating opportunities envisioned and now supported by the Conservative Government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper ~ " GREAT WORK ". This long term plan, will make our shipbuilders, & finished ships, the best in the world. Canadian Shipbuilding will hire thousands, & provide long term employment, and CANADA will GROW ! Europe has their eyes open to this advancement, & in time will be ordering Canadian vessels. May GOD Bless Canada in 2012, & all the years ahead.


wstrncehnehdeh in SK
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So, if we can build our own frigates why can't we once again build our own fighter? We have a very high tech aviation community in Canada. Why is it that we are afraid to heal the Avro Arrow wound and build our own aircraft once again?


mike
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This is great news for the Canadian economy as these workers will be paying taxes buying houses and spending money in the Canadian economy. It is about time that a government of the day does something that the voters have asked for, instead of always finding fault and never getting anything done.The government of the day should continue looking for more ways to increase manufacturing here in Canada and stop being relient on china mexico and others.


A Canadian worker
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@ Mike, who cares who ownes the shipyards in BC. The ships are being built in Canada by Canadian workers who will spend their earnings in Canada. I think we get to wrapped up in who ownes the company. Look at where the ships are being built and by who. This will help Canadian workers and their families and the spin offs will help other Canadians as well. This is good for Canada!


Daryl in Nanton
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Since Quebec is in love with the NDP, perhaps they will give some contracts to the Levi yard. Oh wait, they aren't the government!


Gord from Ottawa
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One of the problems that forced the closing of the Saint John shipyard was the insistance of the Government for labour stability during the building of the Canadian Patrol Frigates. This led the unions to demand ever higher wages to maintain that stability. By the time the frigate build program was completed, the yard had priced itself out of the market for further shipbuilding programs, even against other yards in Canada. The Canadian government needs to beware of this tendency so that we don't overpay for new ships, and the shipyard owners need to beware that they don't price themselves out of future business.


Retired Captain in Dartmouth
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It is the boom and bust cycle that has brought shipbuilding in Canada to the brink of extinction...!! People need to realize that a viable shipbuilding industry is essential to the protection of our national and and international interests given the fact that much of our wealth is dependent upon our ability to ship.. While crtics might argure that 35 billion dollars is not justified.... consider this...For many years seafarers such as myself have long advocated that our National government get away from the concept of "block obselecence" where our navy goes to our elected masters to write a cheque for 20 warships, every 20 years.....We have long advocated that if 2...yes 2 warships were delivered annually, this would keep our naval fleet current, our shipbuilding industry viable , ultimately get us out of the block obselecence mentality and be more cost efective for the taxpayer....The bidding processess for this acquisition as reviewed was one of the fairest exercises in such a major purchase as I have seen in my 60 plus years..!!!! Merit was the order of the day based on ability to deliver....We have now proven , nationally, that we can rise above the petty politics that has pervaded Canada for too many years...As for skilled workers who live in an area that does not have a lot of ship building work...you and your skills will be welcome here....For the first time since the conclusion of world war 2....Canada now stands up again on the world stage of naval construction by preserving its ability to design and build the ships necessary for defence of our sea lanes and to further our mercantile commerce...Thank you to our National government for finally righting what has been seen by canadian seafarers and shipbuilders to have been a most egregious wrong..!!..


Mike
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Seaspan in North Vancouver is owned by an American company called Washington Marine Group.


diolbat
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Perhaps skilled workers in the ship yards that didn't win the competitive bidding should consider moving to the yards that do have work and need skilled workers.


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