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Canada's employment rate fell for the second month in a row in November as the economy shed 18,600 jobs. That pushed the jobless rate up one notch to 7.4 per cent. St. John Alexander reports.
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Date: Fri. Dec. 2 2011 10:29 AM ET

Canada's employment rate fell for the second month in a row in November as the economy shed 18,600 jobs. That pushed the jobless rate up one notch to 7.4 per cent.

It's now been five months that Canada has been looking at a flat labour market. Still, November's job losses weren't as severe as October's, when the country lost 54,000 jobs.

November's report should now provide economists with a clearer picture about the health of Canada's labour market. The last two reports saw wild swings, with the economy creating 61,000 jobs in September and then losing those 54,000 in October, mostly wiping out September's gain.

It now seems more evident that the robust jobs market Canadians have been enjoying over the last two years is fading.

There's no question that employment growth has cooled sharply," Robert Kavcic, economist with RB Capital Markets, said in a morning note to clients. "Consistent with an economy that is seeing very modest growth once you smooth out the volatility caused by temporary factors in the second and third quarters."

In a note to clients, economist David Madani at Capital Economics called November's employment decline "surprising" and "discouraging."

"Given the deepening global financial crisis, an expected recession in Europe, and now a slowing Chinese economy too, there is the risk of a recession," he said.

He added that with indications of falling consumer confidence, "the dip in the labour force participation rate might indicate that people are feeling more discouraged about employment prospects."

Statistics Canada says November's losses primarily came in part-time employment, which fell by 53,300, offsetting a gain of 34,600 in full-time workers.

There were job losses in retail and wholesale trade, as well as business, building and other support services.

These were partially offset by increases in "other services" (such as personal services and repair and maintenance), as well as in construction, natural resources, and utilities.

Regionally, Quebec took the brunt of the declines with a drop of 30,500 jobs split between part-time and full-time. Saskatchewan also lost jobs. Employment increased in Nova Scotia and there was little change in the other provinces.

Earlier this week, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development said Canada is currently going through a rough patch of weak growth, mainly because of Europe's debt problems and the global economic slowdown.

It said it expected Canada's economy to muddle through 2012, but it added that all bets were off if the European debt crisis spreads beyond the continent.

Here's what happened with Canada's job picture provincially in November (previous month in brackets):

  • Newfoundland 13.2 (12.9)
  • Prince Edward Island 11.1 (11.2)
  • Nova Scotia 8.6 (8.6)
  • New Brunswick 9.8 (9.4)
  • Quebec 8.0 (7.7)
  • Ontario 7.9 (8.1)
  • Manitoba 5.5 (5.2)
  • Saskatchewan 5.1 (4.1)
  • Alberta 5.0 (5.1)
  • British Columbia 7.0 (6.6)

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Frank
said

Let's see, unemployement in the USA is 8.9% and 7.4% in Canada. Why do the conservatives keep telling us we are so much better here than in the USA. Wake up and smell the coffee


Malcolm
said

Everywhere I go, the contractors, malls, walmarts, superstores all looking for help. But I guess when you want a $20 hour job with full benefits maybe it's time to wake up. In this economic time you better be happy with less or have nothing. I know it's Harpers fault you got fired or laid off. Had nothing to do with your working skills or maybe because there was no buis. YES YES the evil conservatives, maybe the libs would have been better to throw a hundred billion to Canadians, pay for everything and everyone. If you need a job so bad go pump gas or flip burgers. Maybe that's your skill level.


Duke
said

If you need welders (and the Employment office is full of welding jobs being offered), raise the rate of remuneration. Got that? If no one wants the job, it's because the job is not paying enough. Stop trying to operate Asian-style cheap-labor shops in Canada. Got that? Harpo gave you the tax breaks, corporate crap. Now get off your fat lazy butts and pay Canadian society back by creating jobs. That's what Harpo said you'd do.


A Koster
said

Pretty much makes sense considering the 3 stores that had just closed down in a New West BC mall that I was at a couple of weeks ago.. one normally expects that they would.could have tried to make it over the Christmas season.. but then, that's the reality of our economy vs. the fantasy that's being spewed from the mouths of over paid economists, financial advisors, and of course, Flaherty and Carney .. simply trying to justify their jobs and 'expert' only at sucking in people to further spend and borrow to stimulate an economy that is no more stable than a house of cards.


P. Martin
said

Anyone you believes the jobless rate is 7.4% should buy a bridge from me; the real rate is probably at least twice that. We're also not told how many of the job gains were in government, which, as others have said, is just more money down a rat hole. And Madani, the economist, says the decline is "discouraging" and "surprising"; being an economist, I expect he'll be even more surprised when the jobless rate worsens in the future.


JP
said

I agree with some posters here that say, only you can change your situation. There are plenty of job opportunitys if you are willing to get your hands dirty. I see hundreds of job postings everywhere but some people are not willing to compromise because of fear to move on to a different field of work. Sometimes you have to sacrifice certain things to better your self. Get of the EI and make an effort to do what you have to do to make a living, Ive never collected EI benefits in my 22 years of working and lived in 3 different provinces with only a high school diploma and I make a good living. If there are no jobs where you live then go to where they are.


dante
said

it is a little disconcerting that the jobless rate goes up at exactly the same time that Banks announce 48-58% increase in profits. Seems that the banks are better off when we don't have jobs. So why worry about creating jobs? There is something very sinister when banking communities who contributed to the economic mess are now reaping the benefits of job losses.... It is all about debt. The more debt the working man has the better cause if he/ she lose their jobs their credit rating falls and they are forced to work for less. No wonder the union busting and destruction of decent paying jobs is a high priority for Cons.


Raif
said

Quebec loses 30,000 jobs what a crock. Since Ottawa refused to pay them $1.5 billion in compensation for whatever they have their ways of extracting federal money because they are our professional have nots. EI at $1500 per month per will recoup the $i.5 in four months, all federal money.


Red X
said

Dear Conservatives; with your past stats... When Harper became PM in 2006; the unemployment rate left by Paul Martin with a surplus was 6.4%


Redneck Albertan
said

Funny, but I never considered government's job to be as a creator of employment, only to create an atmosphere conducive to employment growth, which we have in this country. It's your job as an individual to go out there and sieze the day, otherwise you're going to get awfully cold and hungry before someone comes along and gives it to you.


X Con
said

I believe Mr. Harper and company will continue hiring more civil servants and military personnel to deal with Canadian unemployment. This is what I call Leader sheep.


Out of work Dude B.C
said

I haven't filed my unemployment claim yet so expect some more losses in the future!


Jamie D
said

This unemployment data is reliable for my purposes and I would only be concerned with these numbers if they were to linger month over month. Cumulative is different however. That states that industries as a whole are not retooling their tech to meet new product markets and services.BTW: To the 1982 quotation maker: Saying things about my Grandpa's era means zero. That is like telling me that John A. MacDonald couldn't get unemployment under 20% as PM because he was booted for a bribery scandal and he just didn't have enough time to actually get public policy in place. Don't need to tell you he was a conservative as well do I, because you are so full of the facts and history. But really, MacDonald had nothing positive to do for employment at the time....hence the bribery scandal.


Don
said

Stats are stats.... new jobs get created and stale jobs get tossed. This trend will never stop... why pay someone 30 bucks an hour when you can have someone work for 15 bucks... this is how things go....


chris
said

Build 1 or 2 refinery's...nuff said!!!


Doug
said

Stats imply that 92.6% of people are working. Let's look on the positive side of things instead of dwelling on the negative.


knee-o-con
said

Fantastic! Looks like Harper is off to a great start. All we need now is a useless and expensive crime bill and some expensive broken fighter jets! The taxpayers won't mind. If we need more money let's just take it from healthcare and education - I mean we don't need those things anyway! Ain't life grand?


Pip
said

In order to keep things in perspective, it would be interesting if CTV were to do a comparison graph of unemployment figures, using, for example, a thirty-year mean, with the current year's figures shown in a different color. Mark on the lower axis times of recession, and a distinct pattern should emerge. Giving a single month's figures is all well and good, but is hardly enlightening; it's rather like showing a single tree and saying "This is the forest" Still, it is more fun, I guess, to do the latter and read all the mostly uninformed comments that are prompted by a single fact in isolation.


Wendy
said

The liberals had the country heading for the all time low unemployment rate that it hit in 2007 at 5.9% Only a year after Harper took office his mismanagement policies started to kick into gear and the unemployment rate has been climbing steadily. The conservative seen to have a knack for running the country to the brink of bankruptcy., Mulroney did the same thing.


dsbarclayeng
said

According to commenters as well as Harper:

The solution is to move to Alberta and Sask.

If you can, you should, I agree.
But realistically, can 70% of Canada's population move to these 2 province because that's the only place with good jobs?

Can every girl who graduates work in a mine or in Ft. Mac. running big mining machinery?

We need an employment strategy for all of Canada and for all areas of expertise.


Michael from the real world
said

Why any of you people look to the government to create jobs is well beyond me. My ancestors moved [sometimes to a different continent] to find a better life--why don't you whingeing lefties try moving to where the jobs ARE in Canada? We taxpayers do not owe you a living. EI is just another form of welfare, imho.


Gumpy
said

Has anyone stopped to think that a lot of these jobs are jobs that were only seasonal jobs. There are farming jobs, fishing jobs, forestry jobs, road construction jobs, etc. etc. that don't finish until the last of everything is hauled and the last of everything is cleaned up and the last of everything is put to bed (so to say) and thus usually end in or around October and November. But unfortunately there are so many people trying to make money off having opinions that they don't state these facts and instead are trying to create a feeling of fear within the hearts of the Canadians so that we can "hate" the government of the day.


myob
said

Funny how they say that so many people are unemployed. Funny how every day & night there is endless traffic. For those of you whom are unemployed, stop being lazy. Find yourself a temporary job. Even if you need to pack groceries in a grocery store. Stop milking it. Amazing how many people when it comes to cold weather, no one likes to work.I say get a job! And if you unemployed and wealthy, don't collect. One day you may actually need it.


Russ
said

Here we go, the anti-liberal, anti-ndp'ers whining about those that dare to blame Harper for the demise we are having to deal with. It's only natural to blame the current government for everything that goes wrong. Lighten up! Harper is not the saviour you think he is and will continue to make mistakes. After the next election, you could rant on about the NDP.


George M
said

I don't get it we keep loosing jobs. Where's the money going? Harper spent the 13 billion surplus the liberals left him before the recession. Then he spent the 13 billion stimulus money for the action plan that opposition parties agreed to. Then he spent another 127 billion and our national debt keeps growing by about 4 million per minute. With the government throwing this kind of cash around you would think we'd have zero unemployment. Where's all the money going? Harper only increased the size of government by 12% so it can't all be going to big government or can it? Sure seems like our countries sliding backwards fast.


Mark - Calgary
said

Some people write as if Harper can magically snap his fingers to create thousands of jobs. Considering Europe is in big trouble and the US (Canada's biggest customer) is just starting to recover from a big recession, Canada has done very well. Any comments blaming Harper and Flaherty for the unemployments means the writer doesn't understand the basic economic principle of supply and demand.


O
said

In addition to my previous comment. There have been many times I have been looking for different types equipment and, again I wanted to keep the business in Canada, searched in Ont. and Que. and they had what I needed but couldn't make it to follow Class 1, Div. 1or2 electrical requirements of the O&G industry. Again, I had to go to the US. The East needs to stop whining about the "resource rich west" and adapt their business to match our needs instead of saying, "ya we don't do that."


lc
said

When you place the nations economic plan on a sector that only employs 1% of Canadians bad things are bound to happen to all except the 1%.The industial belt,where most of us live, drank the big oil cool-aide,gave the west their coveted majority and will be having indigestion for years to come.A nation that survives by raping its natural resources is destined to fail.


Canadian Bob
said

And The Royal Bank boasts record earnings in Canadian banking and its insurance arm which drove net income 43 per cent higher in the fourth quarter to $1.6 billion.The total? For the year, the country's largest bank earned a RECORD $6.7 billion " up $918 million or 16 per cent from the previous year.Yah... those big corporate tax breaks are making money from the wrong people - just as expected. And has RBC hired or layed off workers? I think we all know the answer to that. They've laid off workers. Thanks for voting Conservative folks. What a wonderful way to give your fellow Canadians the shaft.


O
said

I am a chemical specialist in the Oil & Gas industry and I can tell you these numbers are BS. If the East Coast numbers are that high it is because they are too lazy to get a job. I need DNV certified cages built and wanted to keep the work in Canada, I sent the prints to the East Coast to get built and was told they didn't have time. I now have to get them built in the USA, who will outsource them to Mexico. Every Oil company I talk to is hurting for guys; the company I work for is hurting for guys. I don't buy these numbers at all.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Lots of the usual silly anti-Conservative rhetoric in this forum. The fact of the matter is, in historical terms, a Canadian unemployment rate of 7.4% isn't anything to freak out over, especially given the unprecedented global economic circumstances. Our highest unemployment rate was 13.10% and occurred in December of 1982, under the Liberal Trudeau government. Our lowest unemployment rate was 5.9% and occurred in September of 2007, under the Conservative Harper government. ("Natural unemployment" in Canada is near 6%.) From 1976 to 2010, Canada's unemployment rate averaged 8.53%. Have some reasonable perspective, and cheer up, little buckaroos. Things on the employment front could be a whole lot worse.


Will
said

And here we go, the harper haters will blame everything, including black ice on the highway. on Harper. As for the poster whining that his EI has run out: there are jobs available - lots of them- but you are apparently not willing to actually work at somethign you consider beneath you.


I need a job
said

I need a job! EI ran out long ago. Are there stats for my situation?


Paul
said

See what happens when you elect a Conservative government! Wake up people and smell the end Canada as we know it. Before you know it, we will be pledging alligance to the American flag and voting for a President. Now thats what I call progress. "Oh say can you see, by the dawns early light........."


Red X
said

Harper the Economist & Flaherty the Finance Minister are the worst stewards of the CDN Economy! Just yesterday came to light that the fact major banks got a bailout; called "liquidity injection" by the Cdn Banking Assoc.


Governments don't create jos
said

Unless we're talking about public sector jobs and those are disappearing too. First, it's obvious the resource rich west half of Canada is experiencing a boom and will be until the resources run out. Manitoba is the exception as their economy is based on public sector employment. Ontario is still crashing. Quebec is expanding it's public sector and the traditional high unemployment Maritime's are chugging right along. For a country that's adding 250,000 fresh new faces every year, plus several thousand illegals, these numbers are not good. Wait for the new year when the retail sector has a little correction.


dsbarclayeng
said

Harper was 'disappointed'.

But... he blames Europe (when job numbers go down)

He takes credit if job numbers tick up.

Good strategy for doing nothing.


B in Ottawa
said

Big corporate tax cuts do work, and people who think they don't are wrong. Look at the provinces with the lowest unemployment. Alberta and the Western provinces, which have the lowest levels of taxation in the country. Next is Ontario which has moderately high tax levels. Quebec and Atlantic Canada have sky-high taxes and sky high unemployment to go with it. Raising taxes just doesn't make sense. Our Conservative government will keep taxes low, and I hope they will not react to this blip in the labour market with a knee-jerk spending spree. We HAVE to balance our budget or we'll end up like Greece, Italy and the United States. It would be crazy to squander our good financial position now.


One Canadian
said

I'm tired of pointing my finger at the Cons and saying see what happens. The truth is it's easier to blame then to stand up for ourselves and others. Perhaps it's time for Canada to re-invent itself, start looking at manufacturing jobs, sales jobs, or just go back to school. The goverment is not going to knock on our door and hand out jobs to the unemployed, but we can try to help ourselves and others by doing the same thing our Grand parents did after the war, survive no matter what. It's the Canadian way aye!


Roy
said

as I look at the statistics from each province a lot would from the farm sector as all the harvests are done,remember to check this time next year,you can't pick fruit and potatoes all year.


Wayne in HFX
said

Imagine!...job increases in Nova Scotia! And just about even one else breaking even, or losing jobs.What with an NDP Government and all.I Don't believe anything I read from those rigt wing nut jobs posting on these news sites. They'd have us believe the sky is falling and the world is flat is we dared elect a socially responsible gov't!


do it yourself
said

I am sorry, but if you're in an area with an unemployemt rate over 10% maybe it's time to move? It gets tiring of hearing these figures and people complaining about it waiting for gov't help... help yourself for crying out loud. I see help wanted signs all over the place for decent paying jobs. If you're unemployed you might wanna get off ctv.ca, quit complaining about the gov't, big corporations, satan or the guy next door and do something about it. Until then, I guess my EI contributions will line YOUR pockets.


joe
said

I thought everything would be fine once the banks got their money?
I'm guessing they don't want to invest into their own mess at the risk of becoming less powerfull in the name of helping out their fellow men and women...


dsbarclay
said

Harper's Industrial Policy: Sell raw bitumen (tar) to the U.S. and buy-back refined products. Full stop. All the other industries including agriculture and manufacturing can rot. Extend the North-Eastern U.S. 'rust-belt' into Canada. Because Ontario and Quebec don't vote en masse for him.

Harper's Economic Policy: Continue to lower corporate taxes so that Banks and Oil Companies can add more to their enormous reserves of cash they are sitting on.

Harper's Employment Policy: Move to Alberta or Sask. or starve.


Capt'n Obvious
said

I guess less people can afford to eat out so no more Mcjobs


Lance Read
said

This all has less to do with the greed based market collapse and much to do with an unsustainable consumer economy. Why aren't any of our "leaders" Harper/Flaherty et al reading Heinberg's End of Growth. He outlines in there that Tofler's Future Shock was right 40 years ago. Heinberg also outlines how to go about creating a much reduced sustainable, shared job economy.


Canadian Bob
said

Those big corporate tax break are really working then right?


joe canada
said

Wait until after the holidays and then you will see alot more jobs go. This is just the start. Dooms day people of 2012 always thought a huge natural disaster would happen. I think maybe it will be world economic colapse.


Diana
said

To MAE in Ontario. These figures are compiled from the Labor Force Survey which is collected every month and has been since WW2 from 50,000 households. Not from EI.


MAE in Ontario
said

these figures can never be counted on as being right. They go by EI figures and people who were not looking for work last month may be looking for work this month. By their own admission it was part time jobs that lowered the figure and there could be many reasons a person leaves a part time job. I look that the full time jobs and that looks good


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