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Date: Wed. Nov. 30 2011 8:54 PM ET
TORONTO Students will be able to set up gay-straight clubs to promote tolerance in all public schools in Ontario under new anti-bullying legislation, Premier Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday.
Some Catholic schools have banned gay-straight alliances, but McGuinty said the bill specifically allows the groups, although he noted they may be called something else.
"We're going to require that, at every school where students request that this be put in place, they be permitted to organize themselves with a gay-straight alliance," McGuinty told the legislature.
"It may not be that name that they use, but the important thing is we're going to have that kind of a supportive group there available in all our schools."
The New Democrats were concerned by what McGuinty said the gay-straight alliances might be called.
"I was a little worried with the way the premier couched his remarks saying they might not be called that," said NDP Leader Andrea Horwath.
"Look, if we're not prepared to allow kids to use the word gay, if we as we put legislation together and put new rules in place say that gay is a bad word, then how are we going to end bullying of kids who want to self-identify as gay?"
The Ontario Catholic School Trustees' Association said it supported the intent of the anti-bullying legislation but does not want a gay-straight alliance in its schools because of the controversy surrounding those groups.
"From where I'm sitting, it is an adult movement that is trying to push young people and they're not adults yet, so I find it has become so controversial," said Nancy Kirby, president of the association.
"That's what we're trying to get away from and get to the point (which is) to make schools a safe place regardless of race or sexuality."
The legislation would allow schools to permanently expel students for bullying, instead of being limited to suspensions, McGuinty said after visiting students at L'Amoreaux Collegiate Institute in north Toronto.
"We're stepping it up, and we're saying it can be the subject of expulsion, which is the most severe consequence that a school can impose," he said.
"We are determined to take the next step to ensure that in our schools we send a very clear, strong and direct message: we will not tolerate bullying of any kind, at any time, for any reason."
At least one-in-three Ontario students reports having been bullied, said Education Minister Laurel Broten.
"We know every single student has seen it, has suffered some form of it, because the reporting levels are obviously lower than the level of what's transpiring in our schools across the province," said Broten.
"That's why we take it so seriously."
The bill will require that schools take action to prevent bullying, intervene when appropriate and punish offenders.
"We're taking policies with respect to bullying and giving them the force of law by introducing those by means of a bill and ensuring that boards must take concrete steps when it comes to preventing, intervening and applying progressive consequences," said McGuinty.
The Progressive Conservatives introduced their own anti-bullying bill Wednesday, which Tory education critic Elizabeth Witmer said calls for anti-bullying awareness campaigns at all grade levels.
"Let's make sure at least that these young people learn in kindergarten that it's inappropriate to bully and that they learn to deal with some of the feelings that they have of anger or depression or loneliness," said Witmer.
McGuinty suggested the minority Liberal government was open to incorporating some of Witmer's legislation into it's own anti-bullying bill.
Recent suicides of gay teens who were bullied were "absolutely" on his mind as the new bill was drafted, said McGuinty.
"This is a way to draw what painful lessons we might from those terrible tragedies, and to give some meaning to those tragedies, by taking concrete steps to make our schools safer for all our kids," he said.
The suicide of 15-year-old Jamie Hubley, a boy who was a target as the openly gay student at his Ottawa school, touched a nerve, with teens from around North America flooding the Internet with tribute songs, videos and messages in response.
A lot of bullying takes place off school property, but McGuinty said the government can't really deal with that.
"We're not going to pretend that we can somehow reach out into the broader community, into every nook and cranny, but we'll do our very best when it comes to the physical environment of the school itself."
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It is about time - as a grandparent I have watched our kids (who were allowed to fail although I do remember some nagging on our part) learn, I have watched our children now micro-manage their children. A big part of it is the fact that there are predators out there and an extreme reluctance on the parents part to alllow freedom that might result in the children becoming victims.
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Carol in NB
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Sara
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Jane Berardini
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Bill Moyer
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Mathieu
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I'm not sure they should call it gay-straight club because a lot of bullying is not about sexual orientation.
Craig
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About time bullies and their parents were forced to face a few consequences!
For those ranting about religious beliefs or video games - get a clue!
A religion can oppose things, but that is not a license to bully.
Kids know the difference between fantasy and real life! Ever seen anyone drop an anvil? (Sorry Mr. Coyote!)
In summary, kids, "Be Nice" or you're out! Too many little lives have already been scared or ended by bullying!
Rachael
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Mq
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Margie
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scott
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mike
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Mcgunity was probably bullied in the school yard and has been taking his revenge out on the tax payor since he came to office.
Now he gets to play principle of the school yards.
I thinkd he should be worried about the economy, lost jobs and health care rather than worring about someone getting bullied.
This has gone on since my grandfather was a boy and that was in the 1800s.This will never change no matter what you do.
It should be the responsibility of the parents to take care of this matter as was done for years.
Linda In The Valley
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I don't recall having bullies in school. But then again the boomer generation lived with different standards than today. Most of our fathers were back from WWII and in their early twenties. We had "rules", our parents were in control, our teachers were in control, adults across the board were in control. Neighbours were called Mr. and Mrs. "NEVER" by their first names (respect). Perhaps being from that generation our fear of getting in trouble at school, just might be worse when we got home. Maybe it's time to take back control for these teaching professionals and not have their hands tied behind their backs. Teachers should not be "afraid" of the kids they teach!
The kids today have much more to contend with than we ever did. How times have changed for the better? hummmmmm I'll have to think about that puppy!!!
Punish the bullies!
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mitchell
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Tom
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Ross from Whitby
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Arthur
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terry
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Terry
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Nancy Knight
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InOttawa
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Steve
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mms
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Ottawa Mom
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WOW.. Ok then.. What and ignorate comment.. Bullying is bullying.. IF a person/Child is bullying another because they are gay... its not ok Period.. Even if the bullying is based on religious Beliefs. A person is a person no matter who they are, what religion the practice, Colour of skin, sexual orientation.. We are one race its call Human. I teach my child that it is ok to be an individual! and to treat everyone the same, Because we all are the same. There is nothing wrong with embrasing differances, and accepting them. Until WE can all do that... from kids to adults.. then this Bullying issue will never ever go away!
as1559
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Bullies bully for a reason, discover it, fix it, if cannot expel them.
ERH
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Randomlei_Me
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rebecca
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One day, I refused to get on the bus. They started harassing me at the bus stop, and I ran home, crying. I was tired of them being mean to me - for no good reason.
When I ran into the house, practically hysterical, my mother had enough. She called the school, talked to the principal, and when I did get to school, I had a chat with her in the office.
Next thing I knew, she was calling my bullies down. They apologized, but the bullying started again the very next day.
I know this is a long story, but my point is I actually support this explusion law. You really have no idea how hard it is to go to school everyday, knowing you'll be harassed over every little thing you do, that they're going to call you names. It's hard. It does a lot to your self esteem. Even to this day I still remember how difficult it was for me, and that was over ten years ago.
Bullying is not okay.
Randomlei_Me
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We need not educate (spend more money on) them on bullying, they read like everyone, they hear the talk via teachers and peers about 0 tolerance. To date they're educated that it won't be tolerated yet still get away with it.
Just Saying - Ottawa
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DasShrubber
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I had to move my older child twice before ending up at Bellewood in Windsor. For a top notch school it had better bullying policies, but it still existed.
Jo-Anne
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punishment just to make sure we go completely backwards... as others stated expelling these bullies just removes the problem from the school and places the burden on society because you can bet that this kid will be part of our penal system within a few years. Why don`t we have mandatory
sensitivity training as well as a
sociological retraining as part of their punishment , a whole semester worth.
JC
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Lisa
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Mary
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he is not gay...just standing up for himself.
John
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Some people are not fit to be parents.
realist
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MS in Ottawa
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oddmelee
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Jeff
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They need to be tough on bullies. Zero tolerance should be implemented. I agree with the comments that nothing get's done. That's why measure should be put on place with the teachers. IN MY OPINION, if a teacher know's about a situation, and a student is continously bullied, you are now accountable and need to defend what you did to prevent these measures.
I agree with Gary.. BULLYING should be a criminal offence on the criminal code. WHO CARES if they have to suffer for these tough punishment.. what about the VICTIM??? HOW MANY KIDS HAVE TO COMMIT SUICIDE BECAUSE OF THIS before we WAKE up. For those kids' that bullied that child, they can go to jail and sit there. No sympathy... why? Look what they did to that other childs life...
Mike
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conductor274
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G-man
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Gary Graham
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As a side note, never mind a two-three day suspension for the bulliers, make it the remainder of the entire semester, another little tidbit, all!!! bullies are cowards, young & old.
AM
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Teachers need to be much more aware of what is going on around them during these times.
Parents - how far out of touch are you with your kids when you don't know your kid is the culprit? Find out who their friends are, pay attention to the things they say, friend them on Facebook. Be an active part of their lives.
This behaviour is learned somewhere.
Prof. Pye Chartt
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Ken in Ottawa
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BC Ottawa
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As for bullying in the general younger population, guidance and counselling for those who are reformable and more serious action for the repetitive difficult ones which may include parental investigation also.
Angie
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The government alone will not stop bullying. Parents have the power! Iam in my early forties, and I was bullied terribly in elementary public school in the '70&'80's, and I still carry that pain with me today. I had no support from any source parents, teachers, or gov't. My heart goes all to young people suffering from bullying, and I can tell you once you are in post secondary school life is far BETTER! It gets better.
Gerard
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First off, Mr.Insanity your adding a couple of extra things don't don't much address what he's doing. Teenagers don't have free speech rights in school because the class is not a democracy; the teacher rules. If a student bullied a teacher their'd be hell to pay or at least you'd agree there should be. Religion isn't the only thing in this world that deserves to be respected and just because a kid may be Christain doesn't mean he always know how to treat people. Being religious does not give you special rights. This isn't even about speech its about action and a child's parents will know if their being persecuted for their beliefs or if their child wasn't acting like a good Christian. Jesus would not bully. What's insane and wacko here is how much your reading into this very simple and short story as being anti-rights and religion because it protects kids.
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Chris in Ottawa
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Thin Majority in ONT
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Michael (Ottawa)
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Steve
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A culture of respect begins at home. It's fairly typical of parents to blame violence in video games and television for their children's conduct. Perhaps if parents limited the time their children spent in front of the television or video game console and spent more time engaging in wholesome family activities with them, bullying wouldn't be as big a problem.
Truth Only
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Jaid in Toronto
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Rachael
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Wayne at Trenton
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No guts, No glory !
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NOT politically correct
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Mom of a Bullied Child in Ontario
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As the mother of a bullied child, I have to say that the way the school board handles these situations is nothing short of shameful. My child was taunted, punched, kicked, pushed into classroom walls, called horrible names that would probably consitute as hate, and nothing, NOTHING was done about it.
We had meetings with the principal about it, my son was told to be sure to speak to teachers when things happened. When he did that, he was called a tattle-tale, in front of the entire class by his teacher.
He is now attending a different school and the bullies who made his life miserable only learned that they are strong enough to torment a child and get off scott free. They can push, punch, kick and humiliate and nothing will be done to them.
I really, truly hope that this new program will help children and not protect the bully. Serious changes need to be made and hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
McGUINTYs INSANITY
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As an example what about those who oppose homosexuality out of religious convictions - is that now determined to be "hate motivation" in McGuinty's narrow minded world? Will these Liberal wackos now put God on trial for His bible? Canadians are losing our freedom of speech faster than they can vote Liberal. It's getting more insane by the day.
Prof. Pye Chartt
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Anne
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TANIA
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