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Raw milk crusader sheds weight, maintains conviction

In this Thursday, July 31, 2008 file photo, farmer Michael Schmidt is seen talking to reporters outside court in Newmarket, Ont. (Colin Perkel / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Michael Schmidt is seen speaking to the media in this undated image taken from video.
In this Thursday, July 31, 2008 file photo, farmer Michael Schmidt is seen talking to reporters outside court in Newmarket, Ont. (Colin Perkel / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Sunday Oct. 30, 2011 9:50 PM ET

An Ontario dairy farmer and raw milk activist says he's lost around 40 lbs, a month after going on a hunger strike. But he's still hopeful that Premier Dalton McGuinty will agree to meet with him.

In late September, the Ontario Court of Justice found Michael Schmidt guilty of 15 charges related to producing and distributing unpasteurized milk, which is banned in Canada.

While he waits to hear his sentence in the case, Schmidt began a hunger strike in the hopes of being granted a meeting with the newly re-elected Ontario premier.

In a phone interview from his farm south of Owen Sound, Ont., Schmidt said he's under the supervision of a doctor and is running low on energy.

"I'm doing a few things here on the farm still, but I'm on the verge now to pack it in," he said Friday, citing problems including shortness of breath.

But he has no plans to abandon his diet of lemon juice and water unless he's able to "get into a dialogue" with the provincial government -- and McGuinty in particular.

"I never said that I would stop until I meet him," Schmidt said. "No sense going on a hunger strike if you don't follow through with it."

Meanwhile his lawyer, Karen Selick, said she has been given instructions to seek an appeal in the case after a sentencing hearing is held Nov. 25.

The province filed charges against the career dairy farmer in 2006 following a raid on his farm, which is run as a co-operative with about 150 members.

Schmidt's legal woes don't end there, however. The Grey Bruce Health Unit has said it plans to lay further charges against him, Selick said, after Schmidt allegedly distributed raw milk at a rally near their office two weeks ago.

The activist farmer is also scheduled to appear in a Vancouver court on Nov. 2 in connection with a co-op near Chilliwack, B.C., that had been slapped with an injunction barring it from distributing raw milk. Schmidt faces a contempt of court charge in that case, which carries a possible fine of $55,000.

Health Canada banned the sale of raw milk, or unpasteurized milk in 1991. The agency says that due to concerns over E. coli, salmonella and listeria, food regulations require that "all milk available for sale in Canada be pasteurized."

Proponents contend that dangers associated with raw milk are exaggerated and that it offers more health benefits than does pasteurized milk. They also point out that it's legal to sell raw milk in many U.S. states and in a number of European countries, where it's even sold at vending machines.

With Schmidt's legal battles has come a degree of notoriety as a sort of raw milk folk hero. A Facebook page devoted to him includes 4,000 members, and he was recently invited to speak at a raw milk rally south of the border in Maryland, which he plans to attend if his doctor says he's strong enough.

"The issue is much larger than what people think," Schmidt said. "It really comes down to, how much power should the government have to tell us what we put in our bodies?"

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rvunit
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I grew up on a farm and drank unpasteurized milk and it never hurt me but don't get confused between drinking it on the farm right out of the cow and shipping it across the country for millions to srink. It needs to be made safe for when it gets to the customer. get a grip!


dean
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Only in BC can you be charged for selling milk, but be allowed to shoot up illegal drugs in Vancouver. What a joke!


reidjr
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MQ There big companys did face heavy fines.


Terminator
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Peter in MB said: '...Oh and before you question me, I have a food handler’s license and went thought(sic) a food handlers course. ... Also if you don’t cook rice properly you can get botulism...

C. botulinum doesn't just prefer anaerobic environments, it requires them to grow. As an obligate anaerobe, it won't grow in the presence of a normal atmosphere e.g. on a plate of rice. Maybe you'd better take that course again.


reidjr
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Elizabeth, Ontario Again if people waive there right to legal action vs the goverment i have no issues with letting farmers sell raw milk.


Harold in Burlington
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If city folk ever tried drinking real milk instead of government milk, they may become concerned what is put into store-bought government milk. Real milk actually tastes like real milk, not plastic.


Food4Thought
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I wonder how much of a risk modern raw milk truly poses? In Pasteur's day, you milked 'Ol Betsy' with your grubby hands, and deposited the milk in your rusty bucket. After that you probably put the bucket in a cellar (big hole in the ground), where it gradually got somewhat cooler. Modern-day Dairy farmers monitor their herd heatlh closely. Milking consists of disinfecting the "teat", putting it into the disinfected "milker", which delivers the milk into the disinfected stainless steel line, where it travels to the disinfected ice-cold cooler. Seems to me like these ARE NOT ideal conditions for bacteria to thrive....just a thought!


Sam C
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One question that needs to be answered is: if you think drinking raw (unpasteurized) milk is okay, and you do but get sick from it, who do you blame? When there is listeriosis in processed meat, we blame the processor; if there is botulism in canned food, we blame the processor. If there is an incident of disease or some other pathogen in a batch of raw milk, who can be held responsible, except for the person drinking it?


Knowledge vs. Ignorance
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I guess science has no place on the farm! All science does is to increase knowledge, and what we do with that knowledge is up to the individual. I would rather err on the side of knowledge then on the side of some ignorance that would rather bury their heads in the sand.


reidjr
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Sam Lott While i think farmers should be able to sell raw milk but at the same time i think anyone who buys raw milk should have to sign a waiver saying if they do get sick they can not take any legal action vs the gov.


Glenn C
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There is nothing wrong with raw milk, if, that is your choice to buy it and drink!


John C
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Raised on a farm and in rural areas drank milk right from the cows or goats never got sick until we moved to an urban environment where everthing you ate was homogenized pasturize, purified or sterelized in some chemical fashion. Ate carrots right out of the grount cleaned them by wiping them off on our pant leg after rinsing them under the water pump spout.


dj evans
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@mq: right now the price of gas and milk are the same.


Brad
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Spaz@ If your going to comment, please explain everything to us.Marketing Board...Simple the Quota is bought and sold.. The per litre price that is paid to the farmer is based on the grade and quality of product (milk). However what would a farmer do to get the level of bacteria down in his stainless steel holding tank of lets say 1000 liters before its pumped into a truck for transport? That is correct Spaz, he may add a gallon of bleach to the vat of milk...amazing is it not???And if a farmer wants to sell his quota is it not worth hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions depending on the quota size?Cutting through the B/S its simple, lets not talk in circles, at the end of the day without the marketing board and the QUOTA a farmer could produce more, sending the price downward.....good ol supply and demand at work, nothing more and nothing less


SteveOttawa
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Unpasturized milk is not safe in this age of wide distribution. Without it we are in danger of such terrible things as undulating fever, a deadly infection known as brucellosis in cows. To not pasturize milk is like saying we shouldn't bother worrying about salmonella or ecoli. Pasturization is a necessary and desired method to help keep us healthy.


SidPE
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So let' get this straight. Raw milk is "bad". It can make us "sick". Shall we forget the "safe" Maple Leaf? And the 80 million inspected eggs in the US. And the canteloupe and spinach that have recently been recalled? I'm supposed to believe the governments know so well how to protect us? I think I'll trust my own judgement rather than a bunch of greedy corporations.


D. Vancovuer
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Yes, I suppose that one would lose weight drinking unpasteurized milk, if they contract e.coli. No, mom's do not pasteurize their milk, but then again, they don't get milked inside a barn where cow are letting feces fly into a drain. Have you ever been into a dairy farm? Because I have been in one, and it struck me as filthy. I'll gladly stick with my pasteurized milk.


Elizabeth, Ontario
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Society is far more likely to become ill from processed foods in large manufacturing sites than they are from drinking raw milk. Government has too much control over our lives. It's time we took some of that control back. If individuals prefer to drink raw milk, as opposed to processed pasturized milk, and they are aware this farmer is producing raw milk then government needs to back off and allow people some choices about what they put into their bodies. Dalton McGuinty may be one of those people who believe that milk comes from the supermarket and, although this farmer requests a meeting with Mr McGuinty, I believe he is wasting his time.


MQ
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If we can figure out why we pay more per liter for milk then we do for gas the world would be a much brighter place.


Sam Lott
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Many people are under the false impression that Schmidt and others want to sell raw milk to unwitting customers. This is not the case. And as to whether raw milk is good or bad - this issue is part of the debate but not the heart of the debate. The fundamental issue here is whether you believe the government should have the authority to tell you what kind of milk you're allowed to buy. The issue is one of personal freedom vs. government intrusion into your diet. Ask yourself what kinds of food you like. Then ask yourself whether you want the government to make it illegal for people to sell those foods to you.


MQ
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Does a breast feeding mother do this with her own milk? Do animals do this with there own milk before there babes suckle at the tit. Get a grip on reality folks, milk has been around for millions of years. It is one of the purest forms of nutrition around. It does NOT need mans help to 'make it better'. Did anyone stop to wonder why so many are getting sick all the time with everything from flu's to foods. It because we have stunted our own bodies immune systems, by being scared of bacteria. E. Coli is bad, granted, but its a hell of alot worse on your body if your not exposed to the bacteria in small doses to build up your immune system. We and governments have zero right over others rights to consume milk. Whats next, the egg? Water? ... Air? It clearly is not 'getting' rid of E. Coli, or other fatal bacteria's in foods. How many die each year from harmless foods that become 'tainted'. Maple leaf anyone? They ACTUALLY killed people, were are the big business charges. But no, we charge the farmer instead. Non Rural people are utterly messed up in the head, ZERO respect or understanding about the food they eat. So go ahead keep on stuffing your face with 'healthy' Mcdonalds. I'd drink 10 liters of raw milk before I'd eat one hamburger.


Ivan
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I think people should be able to drink raw milk. They should also be made to pay any and all medical bills from their own pocket if it makes them ill.


Robert B
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As a kids on the farm we drank raw milk as a thirst quencher, we put it in our porridge we put it in our rice and raisin pudding we put it in the home made bread we put it in the coffee. tea we made butter with it and ate ice cream made with it sold it to the towns people, as did all our neighbours and guess what, nobody died and nobody got sick from it, many of our then neighbours are still living in their 90's and 100's YES 100's so for all you namby pambeys govrnment Authority kissers go and eat all the government inspected food and go and take a chance and maybe die from it (Mapleleaf comes to mind!! as well as those inspected veggies that are government inspected that are regularily pulled off the store shelves. Just trust the Health Authority Right.


Robert B
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This is just another way for governments to control a product and steal their share of the profits, it has nothing to do with health!!!!! I mean how can you charge a tax on a product that is not controlled!!!!!!


mlklover
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This is nonsense and another attempt at revisionist thinking. As a young boy, we drank nothing but raw milk, right out of the barn cooler, as did thousands of other rural kids. Today we are healthy and happy. Our new urban society knows nothing about their food or where it comes from and they fear death from their food around every corner. This man is being persecuted for something that, until recent political pressure, was common practice.


spaz
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@ BradYes we have a quota system here in Canada. It primary goal is to match production with domestic comsumption. If we produce more than we consume that milk will need to be sold on the world market, but first it needs to be either dehydrated and sold as skim milk powder or some other form of further processing to extend shelf life. Before you compare the prices of other countries to Canada, do a little research into the "subsidies" other countries give to the agricultural sector. Canada gives NOTHING in susidies for agricultural production. Canada has for many years argued at world trade meetings for the elimination of subsidies, but many countries, including the ones you listed have a cheap domestic food policy. As for the dumped milk..... a farmer knows the volume he is to produce, and it is up to him to match production to his quota. I would suspect that far more milk is dumped because of quality concerns. We have a very high standard of quality. All farmers take this very seriously, and are heavily penalised if they ship milk not making the grade. Every shipment is graded by the driver and a sample taken for testing, and every truck is tested before unloading at the dairy. Food safety is not something to cut corners on. If a cheap glass of milk is your desire...... have you tried the chinese offering ????.... I hear that melamine is good at preventing tooth decay.


peter in mb
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Louis Pasteur (Ret'd) Raw milk was a source of illness before pasteurization. I guess we can also say that’ why we COOK our Chicken and Beef before we eat it. And yes I know about sushi and I do enjoy it. But the fish is smoked, Cooked and the raw fish has bin prepared with citric acid like lemon juice or other acids to kill harmful bacteria. The same goes for Steak Tartare ( raw hamburger) it’s has similar high acidic ingredients to kill harmful bacteria one if them is onions. Oh and before you question me, I have a food handler’s license and went thought a food handlers course. so I am well aware of proper temperature zones and at what temperature range harmful bacteria will grow at and die at. Also if you don’t cook rice properly you can get botulism. We have these rules and laws in Canada so people don’t get sick from what they eat or drink.S o Michael Schmidt feel free to drink all the raw milk you want. And if you are still alive in a month then maybe we will take you seriously.


Royally ticked off !!
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I trust a farmer way more than I would ever trust McGuinty or his colleagues about a knowledge of milk. Persecuting our farmers by these "citidiot" politicians because of some politically correct notion is totally unacceptable. This is another freedom taken away by BIG BROTHER.


Ray
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I grew up on a farm, drank only unpasturized milk. Can't stand the taste of pasturized milk and haven't drank it since I was little because of that. I also doubt there is much nutritianal value left in milk after it's been pasturized. Same goes for cooking vegetables which nutralizes most of the vitamins.


Brad
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Milk Quotas - Simple keeps the price higher and gives the farmer who is selling a set price for the liters he is allowed to sell. This guy is not wrong, how many thousands of liters of milk are flushed every year in Canada for the simple reason of the Quota Limitations Milk in USA 60 cents a litre Milk in Ireland 75 cents (can) a litre We have the same thing here with eggs, chickens, cheese etc........ 1 LB Butter Canada 4.99 - 7.99 1 LB in USA 1.99-2.99 The list goes on and on and on Canada - a great nation that cripples the working folk! Tax on top of tax on top of tax...... seems never ending, I think the camels back is about to break


stanontario
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You expect to meet with a politician after hes elected? A safer choice is to buy a lottery ticket and go home and wait.


spencer
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Reading the story I see he is on a "lemon juice" and water diet.

Am wondering why he did not choose a "raw milk" and water diet ??..... to bring his hunger strike in line with his product.


Dragica Markovic
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First time I read about Mr Schmidt while infected people were dying from Maple Leaf Listeria tainted cold cuts. I do not remember having read about any sentence in this case.I do not remember having read about any person infected by Mr Schmidt raw milk. However, he will be sentenced. And I do wonder if the Government protects interest of citizens or of the big corporations.


Louis Pasteur (Ret'd)
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Raw milk was a source of illness before pasteurization. The average citizen doesn't understand that these days. It's illegal to sell raw milk in Canada. The charges are good and the fool should stop his whining. By the way, who cares where else they might sell raw milk around the world ? This is Canada !


SAM
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"It really comes down to, how much power should the government have to tell us what we put in our bodies?" Health Canada isn't flawless, but I'm so glad I live in a country where there is a body of regulators who 'know more than I do' in regards to handling, distributing and consuming food safely. If our society could sell whatever foods we claimed to be safe, we'd have a whole lot more food poisoning and death cases on our hands.


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