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Canadians are very kind-hearted and prone to seeing the world through rose coloured glasses. Let's accept the fact that state sponsored espionage, military and industrial of which China is a master, is rampant in Canada and throughou the world. It's always been the case, so let's just be cautious and realistic. Probably hasn't been a non-knockoff invention since gunpowder if you want to dig a little.

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Are Dechert emails evidence of Chinese espionage?

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MP in email scandal fits profile of spy target: expert

Date: Saturday Sep. 17, 2011 6:32 AM ET

As Ottawa fosters closer economic ties with Beijing, the news that a Conservative MP exchanged flirtatious emails with a reporter from China's state-run news agency has raised questions about whether Chinese spies have developed relationships with Canadian officials.

Last week, a series of emails came to light that appeared to reveal a close friendship between Bob Dechert, MP for Ontario riding Mississauga-Erindale, and Shi Rong, a Canada-based reporter for China's state news agency, Xinhua.

In the emails, which Shi has said were distributed by her husband, Dechert tells her she is beautiful, encourages her to watch a Parliamentary vote on television so she can see him smile at her from the Commons floor, and asks if she was able to get enough information for a story about how Canadian banks responded to the global financial crisis.

Dechert issued a statement in which he acknowledged that the emails are "flirtatious," but said the relationship between the two is a friendship that "remained innocent and simply that -- a friendship."

But the controversy has led to speculation that Shi is really a spy who cultivated a relationship with Dechert, a parliamentary secretary to Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird, in order to gain access to sensitive government information.

Charles Burton, who has served at Canada's embassy in Beijing on two separate diplomatic postings and has worked as a consultant for the federal government on Chinese affairs, said "certainly a lot of circumstances point to something irregular about this."

Communication between the two appears to have been started after Dechert accompanied Prime Minister Stephen Harper on a December 2009 trip to China, when he would have come to the attention of Chinese officials who may have been on the lookout for a Canadian target, Burton said.

Shi also appears to have written little for Xinhua, which suggests reporting is not her primary function in Canada. And Dechert's queries about her article on Canadian banks raises the question of whether he helped her gain access to the executives interviewed for the story.

"So you put it all together and a lot of questions are raised," Burton told CTVNews.ca in a telephone interview. "Questions which should be looked into by the RCMP in an investigation that I imagine Mr. Dechert would welcome because it would clear his name if in fact there's nothing there that the government should be concerned about."

For his part, Baird dismissed the controversy, saying he still trusts the junior minister to continue in his job. Baird has since refused to make further comment on the story.

While opposition MPs have so far declined to call for Dechert to step down from his post, they have questioned his judgment in developing a relationship with a representative from China's state-controlled news agency.

"We all knew that particular paper was basically a front for the Chinese government, both as a propaganda tool but also as an espionage tool they use periodically," NDP justice critic Joe Comartin told The Canadian Press. "That was pretty well known."

Burton agreed, saying that as a diplomat who has served in China, he was briefed by a security officer from the Department of Foreign Affairs to be wary of being approached by representatives of Xinhua.

Parliamentarians and parliamentary secretaries must be receiving the same briefings, he said.

"When entrusted with classified documents and in a position of influence, there are certain classes of people that you cannot have close personal friendships with, and I would put correspondents for the Xinhua news agency right up at the top of that list," Burton said. "It just wouldn't be a good idea to develop a personal relationship with someone who is the agent of a foreign power."

Angry spouse exposes emails

According to Burton, Dechert fits the profile of a prime espionage target, according to how the Chinese intelligence apparatus is known to work. An agent will identify a middle-level minister who has influence and access, but is not among the upper tier of ministers or senior officials who are too well-protected from falling prey to subversion.

An agent will cultivate his or her source over a long period of time in the hope that he or she gains access to ever more sensitive information. As the relationship deepens, the target may be encouraged to seek jobs that give the agent better contacts. And targets likely don't even realize they are being duped until it's too late.

"The kind of thing we are speculating Mr. Dechert was involved in is certainly something that one has seen over and over and over again, not just with China, but in the Cold War with the Russians and so on," Burton said.

What's troubling to Burton is that the Dechert emails were revealed by an apparently angry spouse and not via a security check or investigation by the RCMP. Dechert's security clearance was renewed in March after he passed a routine round of security checks.

But the incident does not come as a complete surprise. Canada's spy chief recently warned that Canadian politicians, civil servants and other groups are susceptible to "threats, coercion or potential blackmail."

Dick Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said Canada is a target for "foreign interference" due to natural resources, technological and scientific innovation and close relations with world powers.

Fadden has not singled out China in his reports on foreign spying, but he has not denied media suggestions that it is among the nations he is referring to.

There are also ongoing concerns about cyber attacks, particularly in the wake of attempts earlier this year to crack the networks of both the Treasury Board and the Finance Department. Those incidents are suspected to be the work of Chinese hackers.

Closer ties, greater vigilance

After years of chilly relations with China, the Harper government has been seeking closer ties with the nation's communist government in an effort to entice investment and boost trade.

In July, Baird visited China and hailed the two countries' close relationship, which includes a 57-per-cent boost in trade over the past five-and-a-half years. Baird noted that China is Canada's second-largest trading partner, with $14 billion worth of Chinese investment in Canada.

While closer ties with China allow Canada to diversify its trade markets and decrease dependence on a shaky U.S. economy, Burton said the government must still be wary of the threat of spying.

"It's normal that foreign states will try and engage in espionage activities to further their state goals. It's incumbent on us to take measures to try and counter these things, so that the Canadian national interest is not harmed," he said.

Burton said Beijing is known to be involved in the theft of intellectual property, military secrets, financial data and other information that it deems useful for advancing business, and therefore government, interests.

Allowing the Chinese or others to gain access to sensitive information could have devastating consequences on Canada's relationship with the United States, and with NATO allies.

Countering Chinese espionage would require a significant financial investment at a time when the federal government is warning of belt-tightening amid the ongoing economic recovery. Greater resources must be allocated to the RCMP and other agencies to monitor Chinese intelligence activities in Canada. This includes staff that speak the language, who can sift through reams of intelligence.

"If Canada is seen as a more-or-less open field for Chinese espionage because we're not doing anything about it, basically it's like leaving the doors unlocked kind of thing," Burton said.

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Michael (Ottawa)
said

Anyone with their ear to the ground knows that Canada is a BIG espionage target for China, France and other players. WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT and get the message across to our MP's that we must crack down on spy activity in Canada. The RCMP and CSIS must be given the funds to do what they need to do. Calling peoples legitimate concern "ridiculous" by John Baird only displays his ignorance and ineptitude. This is a Canada first issue not a partisan issue.


Rick Omen
said

This story is beyond stupid. Are we really supposed to believe that a Chinese spy is so incompetent to allow access to sensitive e-mails to her husband? Who's then allowed to publish them for anybody to see?Either China has the absolutely worst spies, or this much ado about nothing.


Deb
said

China is not a normal player in the world. Why do people continue to be fooled by China and its devious tactics? Why are we being so stupid and led around by the nose by a Pied Piper? Unless you like shooting yourselves in the foot.


Every country conducts espionage
said

People are coming down hard on China for spying. Canada spies on China, don't ya know? Canada spies on every country it has diplomats posted in. One of the roles of every ambassador is to coordinate espionage. So don't everyone get your knickers in a twist. China placing spies in Canada is as normal as Canada placing spies in China, or Israel, or Libya, or the UK.


Justin
said

CSIS director Richard Fadden was right about our government engaging with Chinese spies. There's more than just Dechert doing it. Find them all!


Louise Charest
said

Dig up the dirt on all of them. I bet you will find Chinese cash envelopes deposited into secret Swiss bank-accounts and slush funds "Made in China" around the world. Yet they all tell us Globalization is good for us? Good for who? Them or us?


Mrs. Edna Lickamaid
said

It's a good thing I'm not in power in this country because I would order that Dechert be interrogated, thoroughly investigated, out the rest of the bunch of cheats like him, round them up, arrest them, put them on trial for treason and throw them in jail. Isn't there still law on the books that sell-outs like him can be executed? Well if not that's what should happen to him. I'm not afraid to say so, enough of this politically correct nonsense that is driving us into the gutter!


Helga Laval
said

Communist China does not care about the world. Only themselves and they will bankrupt and destroy us all without ever firing a shot. Their methods and ethics are not what we are normally accustomed to. You cannot turn a snake into a kitten just because you think you can outsmart them or wish them to be something you desire. Know it for what it is and deal with them as such. With a huge ounce of suspicion.


Maury
said

Western men in power are so easily persuaded by Asian sexual dalliances and Chinese espionage experts know this. Dechert and types like him should be in jail.


David Thinks!
said

Mr. Dechert's email are evidence of complicity with foreign spies and you have to wonder how many other politicians in Canada and around the "Made in China" new world order have been lobbied, bought and sold and selling out our country to this dangerous scam under the guise of "Globalization" which is really code for bankrupting the rest of the world and submission to communist China. Enough is enough we need to pull this crap out of the closet and punish those whom have assisted in the ruination of our economy and bankrupting the world while China thrives!


PinVIC
said

Really folks - I am not a fan of the Harper government but this is just an old man getting his jollies from the attention of a young woman. I think his wife will make sure he gets punished.


Elmer J. Fudd
said

For anyone who puts their blind faith in the intelligence of a lawyer: remember the guy that body slammed a window on the 28th floor of the TD building in Toronto a number of years ago (just one example ....with all due respect to his family). For anyone who puts their blind faith in the intelligence of an elected member of parliament: I don't think its necessary to provide any examples.... This guy is a liability!


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Hmm. I wonder if certain folks skipped past the part in the story stating that Opposition MPs have thus far declined to call for Dechert to step down from his post. Interesting. Why? He's guilty of having an inappropriate and compromising "relationship" with a spy, right? No? Maybe not? Yeah. How do we know, for certain, that Dechert has not purposely "engaged" a Chinese state reporter that the Canadian government (perhaps CSIS) believes may be a spy? Given the well-known game of espionage at play, is that so inconceivable? Is it realistic to think that someone in Dechert's position somehow hasn't been fully briefed on this very thing? Clever spies regularly find themselves the object of clever tactics, and it's a two-way street. Users sometimes get used. Perhaps Shi is the "target" here, and not Dechert. Do you know that's not the case? (Dechert wouldn't want to blow his little mission of casual and flirtatious insight.) While some may look at Dechert's mug, and innocent, friendly smile, and see a naive fool who has succumbed, he is a lawyer and, thus, no dummy. His political climb up the ladder isn't typical of a bozo. Yet, of course, women have a good track record of "overcoming" men. My point stands, however; that we simply don't have the requisite facts to make the call here. Minister Baird doesn't seem worried. The Opposition isn't freaking out. Perhaps there's more going on here than meets the eye.


pr2global
said

I do believe we've been flirting with China for quite a while now.Perhaps if we opened up a real two-way, symmetric, conversation with the Chinese (using social media and other communicaton channels) we wouldn't need to sneak around in the bushes with our pants half-down.


Bob,Calgary
said

I am a Conservative supporter but I don't believe in the infallability of Stephen Harper who,unfortunately, has an arrogant streak a yard wide. Both Harper and Baird are being irresponsible in this situation. If the published text of the E-Mails is correct then the man has acted like a lovesick schoolboy and should, at the very least, be demoted and moved to a place where he can do minimal harm. The Chinese run a totalitarian, paranoid regime and are capable of all sorts of shady goings on so we must be always careful of how we deal with them. There is nothing wrong with admitting that a Conservative MP is an ass so Harper should get on with life and act now the same as he did with Maxime Bernier. He should also realize that men are often governed by what lies between their legs and not what goes on in their brains.


peter in mb
said

Whooo whooo whooo people… No where in this story dose it say that Bob Dechert gave any government secrets away to Shi Rong who has now been identified as a Chinese spy.Bob Dechert might be an old fool that got conned, but he is the victim in this case. Why do we Canadians always have to blame the victim for the crime? and not the criminal that did the crime!If Shi Rong is a Chinese spy under geneva convention she can be arrested and imprisoned, deported or shot. That is what we should be thinking of now. China has Committed a dishonourable act angst Canada. maybe it is time to stop buying made in china!!!


BCDarr
said

Our government officials are selling us out to China so they can get a date with a pretty girl? You know what? I DON'T recognize Canada anymore. Mission accomplished Steve.


Diane
said

@Justme - I am a lifelong Tory but one who has brains unlike yourself who swallows anything they say. I care more about Canada than any political party however.


Mike
said

MESSAGE TO THE PRIME MINISTER -- Don't play politics with Canada's national security.


Wake UP !!
said

The Canadian security establishment knows well we have over 1000 Chinese spies in Canada as well as companies being bought outright to buy our intellectual property to take back to China..... and successive governments Liberal and Tory do squat. It is estimated we are losing $1 BILLION dollars a MONTH due to Chinese spies.... and John Baird calls the public's concern "ridiculous". It is John Baird who is being ridiculous not to mention very naive.


justme
said

@ Dianne, as a life long Tory !!!! Give me a break the union RE: NDP has people like you emailing comments like this all the time. Saying that you as a life long Tory supporter is like calling night day. What a joke.


hollinm
said

What a pile of salacious gossip. Of course any twist requires the repeating of the whole story all over again. Show the public some proof that Dechert compromised national security. Show us the evidence that the female reporter is a spy. If you can't then you are simply destroying a man's reputation in an effort to sell papers. This is now becoming boring and actually creepy on the part of the media. Dechert has a problem with his wife. That's the only problem he has.


Loose Lips - Ottawa
said

Watching Power Play each and every night there are "loose lips" in all parties of this Federal Government. Smarten yourselves up and do the job you were elected to do... for Mr. Dechert best thing to do is step down from this position .. do what is right for the party.


Kim
said

Old dude not thinkin with his right head is right. I'm a conservative and I say fire his behind. This is a huge mistake as his wife has already told him.


Steve H
said

I've come to expect this kind of incompetence from conservative member. Come to think of I haven't met anyone on the right that is as smart as a 5th grader.


peter in mb
said

Is it any wonder why PM Harper does not like the media. Seriously this should be a lesson to all MP's from all parties. Loose lips sink ships.


Diane
said

The Prime Minister is NOT dealing with this issue in any way appropriately. Dechert has shown himself to be a liability to CANADA not just the uber partisan Tories. As a life long Tory I demand the Prime Minister fire this guy for engaging in activities which 1) optically appear to potentially compromise national security 2) failing to exercise sound judgment by not getting close to those in a known spy agency masquerading as a news agency 3) for trivializing his role.

Minister Baird calling the public reaction as well as that from the security people "ridiculous" demonstrate how easy a mark this government is in exposing Canadian security vulnerabilities. I wrote the PMO and got a blow off reply. This is no way to start a new Parliament in my view. The RCMP need to take the lead in this because our elected MP''s and PM obviously don't care.


bryan ontario
said

we were warned of this happening a yr ago by csis personal & olivia chow led the ndp charge in the HoC of outrage & slams at csis for making such an accusation towards the chinese govt. now its happened & the ndp calls for heads to roll in the canadian govt. I am not condoning the action of dechart But like i said there were alarm bells sounded and they were silenced.


John Savard
said

The E-mails themselves may not be evidence of Chinese espionage. However, since we have abundant evidence that China does engage in espionage, they are still cause for concern.


Mark
said

Come on dude, it's China.


James in Calgary
said

Lets (Canada) play it safe and terminate this guy from Chinese/International diplomacy duties. Lesson learned move on. Keep him at home as he can't be trusted, not even by his own wife?


George V.
said

For a man in his position he certainly doesn't have too much smarts. Too much thinking with the little head and none with the big one. There won't be any future advancements for officials like him who embarrass their employer. Can we move on there has to be stories much more news worthy than this one, wer'e flogging a dead horse. Election is still 4 years away.


Dubious Duncan
said

A fly on the wall would have a barrel of laughs as Dechert tries to explain these unseemly emails to his spouse. Even as a lawyer this is going to be a very tough sell.


Paul ~ Kitchener
said

This is a situation that is not or should not be an acceptable practice for any Senior Government Official. This may be the tip of the iceburg, and must be investigated full out, to determine if, or if not, this is a security risk. This type of correspondence, may be ongoing in other departments, and could well be the source for a foreign country, getting insider access to our national interests. It may seem like nothing on the surface , but, "What lies underneath" ?????


John
said

Canadians are very kind-hearted and prone to seeing the world through rose coloured glasses. Let's accept the fact that state sponsored espionage, military and industrial of which China is a master, is rampant in Canada and throughou the world. It's always been the case, so let's just be cautious and realistic. Probably hasn't been a non-knockoff invention since gunpowder if you want to dig a little.


alex
said

Just ask the director of CSIS how many Chinese spies are in Canada for a mind blowing experience. This needs to be talked about before we see fake Tim Hortons popping up in China.


Um, hold on a second
said

I'll admit I'm not a rocket scientist however, were I a Canadian parliamentarian, I could probably reason that a Chinese "journalist" that was coming on to me, probably wasn't interested my rocket. Does anyone from CSIS hold our elected officials hands and say, "If a beautiful woman from a foreign power comes on to you, she's a spy so don't respond, just politely decline"? Please tell me this was a trap to catch a spy and gain intelligence on Chinese espionage in Canada.


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