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Tourists drive past Standard & Poor's headquarters in New York's financial district Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011. (AP / Karly Domb Sadof) (AP /Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File) Credit rating agency S&P has downgraded the United States' AAA status. Credit rating agency S&P has downgraded the United States' AAA status.

U.S. downgrade fuels partisan sparring

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CTV National News: Tom Walters on the fallout
The U.S. government is in damage control following the first-ever downgrade of its credit rating. Many are wondering just what impact the downgrade will have on the U.S. economy.
CTV National News: Marty Cej, BNN
The managing editor of BNN says the Canadian dollar could actually rise as a result of the downgrade of the U.S. government's credit rating.
CTV News Channel: Peter Schiff, CEO and author
The CEO of Euro Pacific Capital and author of the book 'How the Economy Grows and Why it Crashes' explains the impact of the downgrading of the U.S. government's credit rating on the U.S. economy.
CTV News Channel: Thomas Caldwell, CEO
The CEO of Caldwell Securities says interest rates in the U.S. will probably go up instantaneously, but it is new territory and not all credit agencies have not followed suit with the S&P. He says it will affect Canada first in the equity markets.
CTV News Channel: Grant Amyot, professor
A political sciences professor at Queen's University in Kingston says it's not that the U.S. economy is too weak to sustain this debt, but that there's been a lack of political will to put through the changes that are needed to deal with the deficit and debt problem.
CTV News Channel: Ian Lee, Carlton University
A professor at the Sprott School of Business at Carleton University says a country's credit rating affects the interest rate what they borrow. He says because this is uncharted territory for the U.S., there's no telling what affect the credit downgrade will have.
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A correspondent with Business News Network discusses the U.S. credit downgrade, and explains what implications this will have.

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Tourists drive past Standard & Poor's headquarters in New York's financial district Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011. (AP / Karly Domb Sadof) (AP /Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File) Credit rating agency S&P has downgraded the United States' AAA status. Credit rating agency S&P has downgraded the United States' AAA status.

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Date: Sat. Aug. 6 2011 7:45 PM ET

Republicans and Democrats were quick to point fingers at one another after the United States' credit rating suffered its first-ever downgrade, a blow to the nation's delicate economic recovery.

The quarrel comes on the heels of Standard & Poor's decision to knock the U.S.'s top-shelf AAA rating down one notch to AA-plus after markets closed on Friday. The downgrade came four days after U.S. lawmakers agreed on a plan to reduce the nation's debt by more than $2 trillion.

In a statement, the agency cited "difficulties in bridging the gulf between political parties" as a major reason for the demotion. But Republicans and Democrats didn't hesitate to use S&P's report to attack one another.

House Speaker John Boehner pinned the downgrade on the Democratic Party, suggesting that it hasn't directly addressed the nation's debt problem.

"It is my hope this wake-up call will convince Washington Democrats that they can no longer afford to tinker around the edges of our long-term debt problem," Boehner said in a statement.

On the other side, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid avoided calling out the Republicans by name. Instead, he said that the credit downgrade proved the importance of the Democratic Party's approach to fiscal policy -- a mix of raising taxes and budget cuts.

S&P said it isn't confident that U.S. lawmakers can turn their recent debt-ceiling agreement into "a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics anytime soon."

Political fodder

Early reaction from the White House on Saturday didn't refer to the downgrade directly. Instead, a prepared statement indicated that President Barack Obama thinks Washington "must do better" in tackling the nation's deficit.

Despite the careful response, sources in the Treasury Department told The Associated Press that the Obama administration was clearly angered by S&P's downgrade decision.

Administration sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told AP that S&P's credit rating analysis was based on flawed calculations.

"A judgment flawed by a $2 trillion error speaks for itself," the Treasury said in a statement.

But S&P's decision has already been used as fuel by potential contenders in the U.S. 2012 presidential race.

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, a member of the so-called Tea Party wing of the Republican Party, immediately called on Obama to submit a plan to balance the U.S. budget, not just reduce deficits.

Meanwhile, Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said the credit downgrade was the "latest casualty" in Obama's failed economic leadership.

Lack of leadership and partisan bickering should foot at least part of the blame for the U.S. credit downgrade and the resulting financial jitters, said Queens University political science professor Grant Amyot.

"There's been a lack of political will to put through the changes needed to address the deficit problem," Amyot told CTV News Channel on Saturday.

"This is very different from European countries like Greece whose economies are just too weak to bear the burden of debt that they've assumed," he said.

While the downgrade has added to U.S. economic tension, Amyot said it might be the jolt that lawmakers need to compromise and make decisions more efficiently.

Downgrade fallout

The downgrade, which S&P has been warning the U.S. about since April, arrived just after the U.S. Department of Labor announced that the country had added 117,000 jobs in July.

Any optimism from the announcement was eclipsed by S&P's credit report, which shook a nation that's been struggling to recover from financial turmoil since 2008.

Investors worldwide are already showing signs that they're hesitant to trade with the vulnerable U.S. greenback. The Dow Jones Industrial average fell 699 points this week, the most since the height of the financial crisis in October 2008.

Meanwhile, foreign holders of U.S. debt are calling upon the hyper-partisan nation to solve their financial woes. China demanded Saturday that America tighten its belt and confront its "addiction to debts" in a statement carried by the nation's state-run news agency.

China currently owns $1.2 trillion of U.S. Treasury debt, the largest stake of any central bank.

But some financial research groups say that the reaction to the U.S. downgrade must be carefully measured.

In a report released Friday, Capital Economics said that that U.S. credit downgrade will shock global markets but isn't a doomsday scenario.

The group predicts that any spike in Treasury yields or fall in the dollar should be short-lived.

"Once the dust settles, attention will turn back to the economic fundamentals, which are certainly consistent with low Treasury yields," Capital Economics said in the report.

Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard shares the opinion that investors shouldn't make hasty decisions in the wake of the U.S. downgrade.

In a Saturday news conference, Gillard emphasized that the U.S. has only been downgraded by one credit rating agency. The nation still retains its AAA rating with agencies like Moody's and Fitch.

"I think people just need to look at all the facts," she told reporters.

With files from The Associated Press

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barefoot guy
said

Rob in Calgary
The problem with your argument is that governments are NOT the institutions that need to decide how to risk money that isn't theirs. And governments starting projects doesn't cure the real problem, which is getting government out of the way in order for people to take risks and start businesses that add real value, as determined by people spending money on goods/services of their choice. If governments were the solution (for jobs as you say) then we could easily get the government to hire all unemployed people to dig and refill ditches. We'd have 100% employment!


CD
said

I think this is funny not to mention long over due! Does this mean Washington will have to pay higher car insurance rates and have a rough time finding a job (like so many Americans who lost jobs after they let the investment banks get away with what they did). BTW, you folks in DC will be looking for work a lot sooner than you hoped.


Matt Miller
said

I go to sleep each night, hoping that Washington D.C, fails to exist in the morning. As for me, RON PAUL 2012 as our last and only hope.


Sam C
said

Isn't it "partisan sparring" that got their rating downgraded in the first place? *shaking head* Politicians!


Chris
said

This didn't happen under Bush!!!...


Mimi2005
said

Brace yourselves, there's more to come. Citizens with arms will start to demonstrate how desperate they become in financial crisis. Remember the mortgage scam, well; that was just the beginning. This debt snowball is only going to get bigger and bigger unless more tax money is collected from the rich before there will be no more middle class society in the States.


Redneck Albertan
said

There is only one way for the US to get out of debt and that is to slash spending everywhere. Military, health, foreign aid, social security, you name it. Talk all you want about taxing the rich, but that will not make a big enough dent. It's no different than if any one company or individual found themselves living beyond their means. Painful, but true.


Retired in Burlington
said

I think Standard and Poors were extremely kind to the U.S. by only dropping their rating down a notch. The American answer to their debt problem was to raise the ceiling so they could borrow more money. What kind of nonsense is that? They must cut spending and raise taxes. Pointing fingers of blame on one party or one president is ridiculous as it took many terms of office to get this far in the hole. They must take immediate action now, not tomorrow. I have nothing against Obama, but he really has not accomplished anything since he took office. He talks a good fight but that's about it.


Jebus Widowmaker
said

They got what they deserved. The issue at hand is more important than the two parties themselves. All they wanted to do was show each other up. The interest of the nation wasn't considered by either party. The republicans and the democrats need to put the nation first before it collapses even further.


Rob in Calgary
said

@Linda.. "Projects that are too big and too expensive,or even too risky for a single investor,can only really be build by large numbers of people willing to invest together to share the risks,and the costs." This is the best argument I have seen recently for major government projects. Why shouldn't "large numbers of people" be the population as a whole? Throughout history it has been the Rulers, Popes, and more recently governments that have organised major projects which have created jobs. Private individuals too often become miserly and sit on their wealth instead of re-circulating the funds into the wider economy. And too often that wealth was accumulated by not paying workers enough to live a decent, honest life, while setting aside enough to eventually retire. Its the wealthy who want it both ways.


jimmer
said

What did they expect? They didn't do any of the hard work, they just got a new credit card. They didn't raise taxes, they didn't cut anything. They promised to make cuts over the next 10 years. 10 year promises are meaningless in politics because there are at least 2 elections during those 10 years for the parties to rewrite all past agreements (just like meaningless debt ceilings). They even agreed to extend themselves just enough extra debt to take them just past the next election. The biggest decision they have ever faced, and they were thinking more about the next election than the good of the nation. If I were rating them, I would not have been nearly as kind as S&P.


Linda in Vancouver
said

What are you asking for "Rene"? That investors stop investing? That speculating on industry and business be banned? You do know that PEOPLE invest money into a common pot,so an expensive industry or big infrastrucure projects and be built.Projects that are to big and to expensive,or even to risky for a single investor,can only really be build by large numbers of people willing to invest together to share the risks,and the costs.If any one person had enough money to build a factory,why would he/she take the risk?? He/she is already rich enough to live fat,dumb and happy on a tropical island.Forever. It's not investors who create chaos.It's people who build things that have to be subsidized with tax dollars.Forever.And it's people with no job,no income,and no money that buy houses they can't afford to pay for.It's banks who lend them money they can't repay.It's governments who then come along and subsidize a person trying to live a life style not within his/her income capacity.And it's politicians who want to be elected who promise all those "free" programs,but never tell you who will pay for them.It's voters who still can't get it through their thick skulls,that there is no such thing as a "free" program.Just one person getting something he/she did not pay for,while another person pays for something he/she will never receive.. Canadians want all our "free" health care,but want to pay USA prices,and USA tax rates.And Americans want to pay their tax rates,but have the same "free' health care as we do.Neither are likely to succeed in this never ending tug of war between people who want less government,and more freedom,and people who are willing to give up freedom,to have more "free" services from bigger government.


Get Real
said

Hey would the following have anything to do with the entire world going down: The richest 2% of adults in the world own more than half of all household wealth. Meaning 98% (like us) own less than half,, what a fair distribution!!! No wonder the world is unequal and crime rate is going up!!


Concerned Canadian
said

Obama could have dealt with the debt ceiling problem back in 2009 or 2010 when he actually had a majority in both houses. This year he had to contend with a majority republican Congress. How would that be easier to deal with than a majority Democrat Congress? Politics aside, this is a Obama failure as he was president and inherited a huge democrat win in 2006 that he could have used to his advantage. Nothing lasts forever and it is pure arrogance that he dealt with the debt ceiling problem so late in his first term. For Canada we should seek not to repeat the mistakes of the US government. We should not adopt their political system. We should only accept US businesses if they are good for Canada and Canadians. Without Canadians there is no Canada.


CK
said

Absolute bumbling idiots! As usual, demagogic rhetoric and political posturing replace common sense and fulfilment of duty. The majority of these people seem to thrive on grandstanding through pugnacious and capricious behaviour. Clearly what needs to be done in this situation is to claw back international military efforts, raise taxes, and legalize marijuana - all of which would greatly help to reduce the debt. The voluntary adoption of an austerity policy would not hurt either! North Americans (Canadians too!) need to come back to reality and cease living beyond our means in an attempt to achieve some arbitrary lifestyle that we feel entitled to. It is sickening that this dysfunctional government is allowed to continue ... the voting public should be outraged, appalled, and ashamed!


Joe from Montreal
said

I dont think it means anything to anybody. The world, and especially China, will keep buying US T-Bills, so the Americans can keep buying cheap crap from them, and keep their factories humming...


KC BC
said

The doctor has finally said it is time for chemo therapy. This patient is so sick in so many economic, ethical, and moral ways! This downgrade should have taken place years ago. Things will be very unpleasant for some time for all of us I fear. Lots of blame to spread around, but likely collective greed is the root cause. This happens when a few spend the money made by many. Thanks to relatively responsible Canadian governments our mess is less. Canadian voters had better beware who they give power to at every level of government. We all should be very carefull identifying our needs and our wants.


Doug ^^^ BC
said

LOL !! What I find amazing is how many of us in Canada are either Democrats or Republicans.I had no idea we had a say in this debate.So why are we posting spin usually posted by partisans of one party or another? The blame for this mess has many shoulders to rest on.You could argue it goes back to the days of Nixon. But someone said the Republicans "got all they wanted in this deal.WRONG.They also wanted tax reform(as opposed to just higher taxes),and they wanted spending cuts the next congress could simply cancel.When Bush Sr agree to tax increases,in exchange for spending cuts,the tax increases came in immediately,and a new congress cancelled the tax cuts that were to be phased in.PROBLEM.Why would Republicans trust them to not do the same thing again? Democrats are socialists.They just don't like to admit that.But they do what all socialist do in government.They socialize everything they can, then ask for taxes to pay for it.Some Americans are OK with ore taxes for social programs,some would prefer lower taxes and fewer programs.I see that as a genuine difference of opinion about how a country should be governed.It's not rocket science.Like us,they are a diverse society with different objectives. We will have the same argument here at some point in time.But what's disconcerting,is that one side will win.So,a small majority,or even a plurality,will actually dictate to all.Socialism demands that everyone pays,whether or not they want the socialized programs.Freedom loving people will always fight that loss of freedom of choice. "Free lunch societies" are not sustainable.Left and right will be better off when we all realize that, and WORK accordingly.


Jack - AB
said

America will never really solve this problem because you have two political parties with different ideologies. Compromise is very difficult to accomplish when you have opposing views. So, for that matter Americans should elect one party to rule entire govt and that way can go in one direction or the other which will solve the debt mess and avoid future debt downgrades. Otherwise with split govt things will only get worse because compromising will be harder later on. In the next 10 years more boomers will retire and really strain the system. Lets see how the U.S.A handles it and their govt has no money because of very low taxes to pay for these social programs. There is no way to have lots of funding to programs and low taxes so Americans have to pick one or the other and vote accordingly!


Simon S
said

A good insight into the cause and progression of the current US financial problems can be seen by reading the words accredited to Alexander Tytler (a British historian) around 1810. The words are so accurate they could have been written yesterday. "Those who do not understand history are bound to repeat it".


Jack - AB
said

@TK. Bush started with $5 trillion debt and ended with $10 trillion debt when he left office. Obama racked up lots of new debt because of stimulus spending to bounce the economy back from one of the worst recessions plus lower taxes and slower economy which brings in less tax revenue. Obama and Democrats are unable to raise taxes on the rich because Republicans keep blocking them. Go to Greece to see what no stimulus and major spending cuts do. I know since my mother is out there right now. Lots of stores closed, high unemployment, protests, people leaving for other countries, etc.


T Payne
said

What did they expect? They must reduce the deficit and lower taxes. Cut back the size of government spending and lower taxes, and let the PRIVATE SECTOR DO ITS JOB. They could privatize roadways, schools, prisons, and more. That would reduce the deficit and create private sector jobs and economic growth. All economists agree that way to stimulate the economy is to reduce taxes.


dante v
said

Insanity, insanity... Just how can anyone actually not realize that the Republican/Conservative right agenda is just itching for a reason for another huge war to spend more trillions for jobs in America. America is totally a key nation responsible for the world economic plunge. Well they are not done yet until there is a North America of rich and poor. Every right wing conservative is a materialistic narcisist that cares nothing for the future of humanity period or the the future of the children of the world. Go ahead conservatives and post your vemon that I see all over these blogs.. Hatred spewed every single hour.


Michael
said

Lets face it the Republicans and Democrats are to blame for the problems in the States. Years ago these people would put party politics aside and work together for the betterment of the country. Not today, they want to make brownie points with the voters so be damn about the country just so long as the voters see my party so called working for them even if the country is going down the toilet in the process. Both the Republicans and Democrats are acting more like spoiled children then law makers. I bet if their pay stopped until an agreement was reached this would not have dragged out so long.


Glenn in Winnipeg
said

Ian Lee sees an economic benefit for Canada as a result of the devolving financial quadmire in the USA. Mr Lee sees this in the form of busineeses relocating from the USA to Canada. BUT the USA is Canada's largest trading partner. When the USA trends down Canada will follow. Unless Canada is able to strenghthen its trading with the oversseas growth markets on the Pacific rim. Canada needs to build the Northen Gateway pipeline and other infrastructures required to make that Asian trade opportunity a reality. and do it sooner.


Rob in Calgary
said

Members of both US political parties have finally convinced me that their system of government is inherently unworkable. Also that we must never ever consider fixed terms or fixed election dates. The whole crew should have been thrown out and an election called by now.


Marg
said

Can't help but wonder if there is a racist undertone to the obstinate stance of the teaparty members. Would they have avoided contributing so strongly to this financial crisis if the president was white? The U.S. has a history of division between the races and perhaps there are still politicians who do not respect a black leader. Sad if true.


Mike
said

@ TK. Please review your facts. When Bush left office he left a 10.626 trillion debt. Obama has only contributed 3.445 trillion to the debt in his term which can be attributed to a lot of the mess that Bush left for him.


lynnees
said

It seems the U.S. government just can't learn. They have been told that their bickering has played a role in the downgrade as well as anything else. Yet they continue to bicker. What a mess.Get rid of the Tea Party. The others can and will get along if the Rupublicans just got rid of the Tea Party. The worse move they ever made was making Palin think she could be vice-president. Now they are really paying the price.

Calvin
said

I'm reading a history of WWII right now that says in early 2000s dollars the US sent roughly $450 billion of lend/lease equipment to England during the entire war. Today, the US spends 1/3 more than that every year on its bloated defence system. I am all for a strong military but there's no way the US Navy, for example, has to be bigger than the next 20 navies combined. So before cutting off people from medical care and pensions they paid into and earned, perhaps the US could do without 3 variants of the F-35 and a dozen nuclear powered aircraft carriers. Maybe 8 would be just fine.


Jim - North Saanich, BC
said

A standard engineering principle is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it but if it is broke, the sooner you do fix it the more you will save in time, money and grief. This downgrade from Triple A to Double A is more than a "shot across the bow"; it is telling the United States that its economic system is broken and it needs to forget about politics and fix the problem. There has been a great deal of oratory and precious little leadership especially from President Obama and little or no meaningful action from the US Congress or the White House as the United States continues to spend far more money than it takes in as revenue and then borrows in ever increasing amounts to keep the system running. If that isn't indicative of something seriously wrong, I don't know what is. In short, the system remains broken and frankly I don't see any real attempts to fix it. Talk is cheap and we've heard lots of that but actions speak louder than words but I see no sign of any real action to remedy this ever expanding problem. Something has to change or the 'Dirty Thirties' will look like a period of prosperity in contrast to what is looming on the horizon. A Democratic Congress and President have now had nearly three years to implement the changes they promised the American people and all of this can not be laid at the feet of past administrations as this is happening on the current watch and there is where the responsibility rests.


Paul ~ Kitchener
said

We get what we sow ! All American politicians, of all stripes, must share the failures of their Government. Politics is not a nice business by any means, and self interests will always be the rule, regardless of political party. The rating can be earned back , "IF", co-operation, and the nations interest is put first, & not that of the "Richest Corporations & Individuals".


Ryan, Guelph
said

Irony: The S&P lowers rating because the US gov't can't work together. The parties immediately blame each other for the lower rating. Yes, S&P, you are absolutely correct... I sort of feel sorry for the American people, but it's their own allergy to taxation that's sinking their ship... not to mention their ridiculous costs for their army, navy and air force.


RZ
said

The rating system is flawed in the sense that the US should have lost their AAA rating years ago. More specifically, it should have been done once Bush started racking up the huge deficits with the tax cuts for the rich and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As much as I don't believe in Obama, he simply inherited the mess from Bush, had a global economic crisis to deal with, and he has to put up with the majority House Republicans who refuse to compromise.


race to the bottom
said

"I predict we're going to see an increased number of businesses relocating to Canada…to obtain the lower borrowing rate, lower taxes and the security of the economy," .....and lower wages, benefits, environmental standards and working conditions. Canada: the new Mexico under conservative leadership (its where we're heading).


Just get a divorce already
said

This didn't just happen overnight. The seed was planted with Reagan and carefully nurtured to fruition by every President since, including the current President. For me the bottom line is, the GOP are a bunch of rich white men who have no respect for the first black President in the history of the republic and, they have no respect for the will of the people. This is good news for Canada. We have a solid AAA credit rating, a friendly business environment due to our tax structure and low interest rates that won't go up any time soon, especially now. Look for businesses to start moving north in the coming months as the US business environment starts to get even more sour. All in all, very entertaining to watch and I'm glad it's not hurting us.


Doug On
said

The reaction from the White House shows that Obama is an ideologue, not a leader. To attack the rating agency at a time like this shows very poor judgement. Not even considering a plan to balance the budget in ten years, which the country must do eventually, shows how out of touch the leaders are. As to the Republicans sacred cow. the military, I have a question for us mere mortals. When the crew of a space shuttle arrives in Florida for their flight in individual T-38 jets, what does that tell us? As many have said before, the U.S. has a huge spending problem, more that it has a debt problem.


Mark
said

A pox on both of their houses. A recent excellent article in "The Economist" magazine demonstrated that a 5% cut in military spending and a 5% increase in taxes in the US and in three years, no more deficit.These guys want to have their cake and eat it too. Write off the interest against your income tax, no state tax (Texas and Florida for example) and highest income tax of 31% (Texas). How on earth can they expect to have everything and not pay for it?Greedy, self-centered, inward looking, pride, intransigence, stubborn-are all words I'd use to describe the current political leaders in the US.Obama...is just a clueless, speech-happy guy who talks the talk but does not walk the walk. Its' a pity that they're taking the rest of us with them.


Bobby Gee
said

This is just an economic shot across the bow of a misguided cruiser with no rudder and no reasonable plan of action except denial and accusations. If this were a corporation it would be in bankruptcy. The governmental addicts will not admit the party is over and it's time to clean up. We cannot continue to provide for the security of the world or we will become insecure !


jimbo
said

They should just send a CIA spook team over to standard and poors and convince them to raise the rating back to AAA. I wonder if they profited by lowering america's rating. Why where they the only ones to do so. Speculators should all be thrown into a bottomless pit!


sandy
said

the americans have no one to blame for this but themselves. both parties and numerous presidents over the years contributed to this. spend.spend.spend. was the order of the day. cities and states are going broke. the americans should start looking after their own people first and stop this globe trotting all over the world. obama did not cause the mess they are in now. unfortunately he has a hard time getting anything done because of the tea party influence on the rebublican party. these people are not looking out for the good of there own country, just themselves.


TK
said

@MAE in Ontario . When Bush left US had 5 trillion in debt during his 8 year in office. Obama has increased that to 14 trillion within 3 years. We can safely say that Obama is worse than Bush.


chel in the Peg
said

The U.S. is in desperate need of a third party.


Ian in N.B.
said

Oh Paul, wake up and smell the roses, no, nobody is blaming Bush, that would be insane here. Everybody shares blame for this, everyone gets some in different measures. It's more like Obama 10%, Democrats 40% and Republicans 50%. The Republicans got everything, EVERYTHING, they wanted out of this deal and the Democrats "compromised" away everything. Obama on the other hand has been asking, no, begging for each side to come to an equal deal for both sides to sacrifice equally. They didn't. They bickered and whined and shot down bills for the sake of running out the clock and posturing. That is why this happening, because Washington is being run by complete tools who think there's no consequence. Well here it is. If this doesn't get them to change their act, nothing will and we'll all be on the super-awesome flume ride to poverty.


Henry
said

You know it's pretty bad when China criticizes you and they're right!Dump this loser do nothing president and save the world!Oh sorry, I forgot he has improved his golf score since becoming president.


Gerry from MB.but not NDP.
said

Broke Obama is the pres. so he owns it, however he has a lot of far left wingers advising him with only with complete socialism in mind.


Mexican Gringo
said

Really folks, what has Obama actually done except orate??


Frankie, Guelph
said

Really? Really? you say the analysis and rating system of S&P is flawed because they gave you a downgrade. If Moody or Fitch were to give you a downgrade, you'd probably say their techniques and analysis are flawed too. It's both parties fault, don't play the blame game. It was the inability to compromise of both fronts that led to this. Take it in, learn from it and don't do it again. Stop whining and playing the blame game and find a solution to fix it so you can get the rating upgraded again. Trying to arguing against is only making it worse.


MAE in Ontario
said

Come on Paul. How can everything be Obama's fault just because he is president. His hands were tied by the Republicans and he never would have been in this mess if it weren't for Bush in the first place or any of the free spending presidents before him. Some presidents before him wanted to pay down the debt but were foiled by their political system. This crisis was a long time in the making and it won't be solved over night. As long as they insist on no new taxes it will never be solved.


RGB Toronto
said

The big fat cat is getting what it deserves. They claim "social responsibility" when they moved to protect the Arab world, but what happened to the "social responsibility" when it's time to keep their own house clean??? They deserve every bit of what is happening to them, I just wish there was a way that the rest of the world wouldn't be impacted by their circus... We have to learn how not to depend on the USA.


Rene
said

When will we realize that the world is run by investors and speculators. That's the real reason for a credit rating. Maybe it's time to change, adjust, reform our world monetary system to eliminate the effects of all of this speculation.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Bad news that is, actually, good news. (A "wake-up" call to ALL in Washington, not just one particular party.) This FORCES all the raging partisans to get serious, and improve upon an insufficient deal that few, if any, regarded as an adequate resolution of the U.S. debt crisis. The White House was bracing for this downgrade (which it has a contention with), and only a fool would think that this wasn't PRECISELY what markets have been reacting to the last couple of days. As a result, theoretically, there shouldn't be a butt-kicking drop in international markets on Monday. The understandable "lack of confidence" has already been largely accounted for. Hopefully, Washington will now take the pretty bow off its ugly debt deal, strengthen it significantly, and then re-wrap it for us all. No need to panic, folks. This is a blessing in disguise.


Don Fierro
said

To all USA politicians regardless of party affiliation, position, etc.: Grow up, keep your trap shut and work shoulder-to-shoulder to help the country, your country.Your collective behaviour makes Nero look like a choir boy, what he did to Rome is nothing compared what you have inflicted to such great nation and neighbour. To all Canadian politicians: learn from these horrible historical lesson and don't let it happen here. Maybe is time to listen to the Queen of Hearts (remember your Alice in Wonderland)...Enough said!


Anthony
said

What a Congress of Clowns. Reminds me, what Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said yesterday...SOCHI, Russia - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev chided “senile” U.S. senators and House of Reps. on Friday for urging Moscow to withdraw troops from Georgia’s breakaway regions. The Senate resolution reiterates Washington’s long-standing call for Russian troops to comply with the terms of a ceasefire ending its five-day war with Georgia in August 2008 and withdraw from the breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Speaking in his first interview with Georgian media since the war, Medvedev said the U.S. Congress - in this case a Senate resolution reflected only the “views of some of its senile members”. “I don’t care about their rhetoric,” he said.


oh oh
said

The country is broke and the political system is more than broken.


leon de los reyes Jr
said

Thanks to the pres. caving in to the gop on no new taxes, the tea party, the tan man caving in to those people in the tea party we have a rating downgrade. Those people in the gop had no problems in raising the debt limit with the liar bush. So what was the problem with obama?

Paul
said

I love it how the left wing media refuses to blame Obama for anything. So basically according to their thinking, the Democrats were 100% responsible for every blunder and failure of both Bushes. And as such the surprisingly successful fiscal period during Clinton was all to the credit of the Republicans too. Wake up people. OBAMA is president, thus EVERYTHING is HIS fault. This is HIS government, HIS term in office, HIS sole responsibility. Nobody is blaming nobody but Bush for his blunders. It's your fault and your fault alone Obama, take your lumps.

Dave
said

Just get Oprah to pay it off and be done with it.


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