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Alleged raccoon attacker may face lesser penalty

A Toronto man is escorted by police after being arrested for allegedly attacking raccoons with a blunt instrument, police said on Wednesday, June 1, 2011.

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The real crime here is the attack on the idea of private property and on the well being of the middle class. Raccoons harm a lot of people and some kids that have been bitten by them have become very ill.

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Date: Wednesday Jul. 13, 2011 9:32 PM ET

TORONTO — The Crown is pursuing lighter charges than it could potentially seek against a Toronto man who allegedly beat a family of raccoons in his backyard.

Dong Nguyen faces charges of animal cruelty and possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose in connection with an alleged attack on the raccoons in the garden of his west-end home last month.

Crown lawyers told court today they are choosing to move forward with the charges as summary offences rather than indictable charges.

Indictable offences would allow for greater punishment, including a maximum sentence of up to 10 years for the weapon charge.

Nguyen, 53, could serve a sentence of no more than two years if convicted of animal cruelty.

His next court date is set for Aug. 18. Nguyen did not appear in court today.

Police were called early on the morning of June 1 after neighbours awoke to the sounds of a man allegedly attacking a family of raccoons with a shovel.

Animal services says one baby raccoon suffered some broken toes and was taken to a wildlife rehabilitation centre to recover.

Police don't know what happened to the other babies because the mother raccoon took them away.

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Marcy
said

After reading the article again, I'm appalled at the possible sentencing. I'm one of the first to react to any form of animal cruelty but the punishment MUST fit the crime. Even 2 years is too much for the dumb mistake this man made. If he has a past record or is a repeated offender? Yes! By all means, but if he acted in a moment of rage and frustration this should be considered. There are cases of out and out animal cruelty....such as a dog deliberately being dragged behind a car, where the creep gets less. Come on now, lets be reasonable!!!!

Marcy
said

I think he chose a cruel and severe way to try to rid himself of the pests but I also think the possible sentencing in this case is severe in comparison to some other horrific cases of animal cruelty where the perps merely got a fine and a slap on the wrist. The laws and punishment for animal cruelty need to be revamped in favor of the innocent creatures who can't defend themselves. This article doesn't say if any of the racoons died. He should certainly face a hefty fine, with community service and a record of such behaviour. I hope his nationality won't have anything to do with his sentencing. One law for all and justice for the innocent animals always.

danielle
said

As a farmer I admitt racoons are not allowed near my barn as I value the health of my horses much more. And even though I dont like to I do "get rid" of them as needed, but I would never in my right mine bash in the heads of living animals with a shovel. I believe that this situation goes beyond animals rights and the law should really take into account whether this man has some sort of rage issue. If a couple racoons knocking down garbage cans can cause him to react this way what will he do if next time its some drunk teenagers kicking over the cans.

d0pium
said

Poor coons.
There are animals everywhere in the world, city or countryside, if you dont like it, get over yourself. Yes coons and squirrels are pests but they are living animals too and have every right to life that you do. Humans are bigger pests than anything. I hope someone beats his head in with a shovel... he'd know how it feels. The human race is terrible and selfish. The world doesnt revolve around YOU.

rob
said

well, our police have captured all the real criminals and our courts are not jammed with real criminal cases and our jails are not over crowded, so we have to find somebody to make it look that our law enforcement officers are spending the tax dollars wisely.

Jaid in Toronto
said

There is a major loophole in this system. Animal rights does give an animal the right to live, but what if an animal causes constant private property damage to the same person and that person gets a private company to take care of it yet the problem remains.

As much as this individual has to face the law, the law has yet to face the real test which is "pests" revisiting property and damaging it.

Ian
said

On one hand we are bulldozing natural habitats and putting up sub-divisions cluttered with mass produced, cookie cutter houses, thus forcing the relocation of dozens of species.

On the other hand, we purchase these homes and are solely responsible for the maintenance and costly repairs from the damage done by the very same species we blasted out of their natural homes.

I don't agree with forced relocation of any species, regardless of where they are in the food chain. And I don't want to pay hundreds to thousands of dollars in repairs to my home and investment either. I can see both sides of the equation but this one argument that will be split right down the middle. �

ian
said

This is ridiculous. Raccoon's are pests. There is year round open season for hunting them in a lot of southern Ontario due to overpopulation, yet if you live in a city you aren't allowed to do anything about it because of some tree huggers giving them human feelings. I have 2 of these vermin living in my garage and I want nothing more than to beat them with a blunt object every time I find more damage.
And I sure as heck wouldn't pay a trapper $200 to catch and release it around the corner so that it makes its way back again...
Want a humane way of resolving the problem? How abut legalizing the discharge of my 12gauge for pest control! I'd charge for ammunition only.

B
said

Sure are a lot of ignorant people on here towards racoons..they live here too you know.

Surry
said

2 years for the head of the family trying to scare off racoons from his own property, that he probably sell part of his souls to earn?! WTF?! What happened to common sense and good old days of cops sending drug dealers, pimps and organized criminals off the street? If he was white, would the cops arrived the scene just write him a ticket and let him go? Is is some kind of a prank from neighbors who don't get along with this guy? ... Gee I should be the defense lawyer for him

Margaret
said

The people that have been commenting on this on article have no idea what they are talking about. if you don't like racoons then don't give them a reason to go on your property there are ways to keep them off. this guy had no right for what he did, call animal control to take them off your property don't beat them with a shovel or anything for that matter.

Mel
said

Raccoon or human.. it's still a LIFE. The animal doesn't know any better - it's acting on its instinct. Humans do wrongful things all the time, but that doesn't mean it's ok to attack them with a weapon! Why do we treat animals so differently?!
This man had intention to end a life so why should he face a lesser punishment? It happens so much more often lately and it's disgusting (talking about lesser punishments for crimes committed in general)!
Something has to be done to send a message to other animal abusers to tell them that this is wrong and unacceptable!

Raccoons are attracted to garbage - clean up your trash and you won't have a raccoon issue!

Karen
said

He should be charged REGARDLESS.
He hurt innocent animals. I dont care what anyone else has to say. He needs to know what what he did was WRONG and needs to be punished.

jons
said

@Wayne in Trenton
i did put my brain in gear. i work hard for my money and i plant a garden to help keep our grocery bill down and if a raccoon statrs eating at my investment i will do what ever it takes to rid of them.
and buy the way are you coparing yourself to a rodent (raccoon) your talking apples to oranges here maybe you shoul get your brain in gear.

Tryon in Coquitlam
said

The look on the man's face says it all: "I left Vietnam for THIS?"

Eddy
said

As an outspoken PM of an earlier time, once said, Bleeding Hearts.

Bert
said

I really don't know where this world is headed towards? Common sense, I suppose, got trashed years ago. I see that, just recently, a woman who allegedly killed her baby got off scott-free while this guy was being handcuffed and marched off, with a possibility of a 10 year sentence, for going after a raccoon's nest on his property? Wake up peoples!!

James in TO
said

OMG. First off, I will say that I do not support animal cruelty. There are much better, logical, humane ways to deal with a pest. Someone beating on a baby animal with a shovel is disturbing and this guy should be given some kind of warning and/or fine,...but seriously, HANDCUFFED and charged with jail time? If they keep putting people in jail for things like this, then as a nation we will have no choice but to hand our new gov't billion of dollars to build these new super prisons...sigh.

Wayne in Trenton
said

@jons Sorry but I disagree. He should have called Animal control instead of taking matters into his own hands. If you are useless can we get rid of you the same way? I doubt it. Put your brain into gear before you start mouthing off.

Nick
said

Too much noise for nothing .

If I try to exterminate some mice I'll be facing the same charges ?
How about police to give fines for driver hitting the racoons with their cars ? Maybe the car can be considered a weapon too...

Waste of money and time

PVT
said

So, if I set mouse traps in my house am I guilty of cruelty to animals and subject to public humiliation / arrest like this guy? For frig's sake...

can't believe it:
said

Are you kidding me? He got arrested and charged for attacking racoons? Who the heck pressed charges, the racoons? What a joke. I suppose he should have waited until the racoons attacked him (or a family member), or tore through his roof or siding to live in his attic, then paid someone some crazy huge sum of money for repairs and extermination.
Yes, I suppose that would have been the best way to get rid of the stupid things.
Urban racoons are fearless and can be really quite mean. He did his neighbours a service by getting rid of those nusance animals.

Xavier Dean
said

Those of you who mentioned they are diseased. I got sick at the office from a contagious virus carried by a co-worker. Should I bring a shovel to work next time?

As for the ridiculous comments about 'the right to protect MY property', did you buy it from the animals that were living there before you? Now if the previous 'human' owner of the property is loitering and digging up your garden, go ahead you have my permission to deal with him as you see fit.

davis
said

Three police cruisers and the guy is in cuffs too?! What a joke. This country is so a$$ backwards it's ridiculous.

Josey Wales
said

Oh people really?
After-all...it is not like he got wasted...and left his two babies outside in 30 below winter weather..
to freeze to a painful death?

That resulted in a two year stay at one of Canada's too many culture camps playing video games...so what might this raccoon hater get?
A fine?

Even that would be harsh, how long till the radicals lobby we can't kill bugs that suck our veins dry?

caw mentor
said

I understand the concern about the violent method he used on the animal beating it with a shovel, but he should be allowed to trap and euthanize, or poison the animals to rid the area of an ongoing pest problem like that.

These crazy rules about not moving it beyond a certain distance like out of the city is ridiculous they shouldn't live in such huge numbers inside the city. They need "population control", and the farmer's comment is right, it's solved with a .22 beyond the GTA boarder.

Roby
said

Now I like animals as much as the next guy but this is crazy. What a waste of taxpayer money.

Mo
said

Straight up disagreeing with this article. If this story needs to be covered, the story should dig into a cause as opposed to just focusing on the act. They need to ask why. What would drive a man to resort to having to scare raccoons away with a shovel? Raccoons are animals, but at the same time they're pests that infest cities and carry diseases. The question is, what alternatives are there? Have you ever tried catching a raccoon before? These are the things that the story needs to ask, rather than just focus on the act.

Valerie
said

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
- Gandhi

This can also be used to measure the decency/moral compass of a human being....

Dave
said

Best of luck! This man is a hero for us all!

hemusbull
said

Sam C is right - there are better ways to deal with racoons. I want to add - there must be better ways to deal with humans as well, not to send them in court of law. A small fine will be ok IMO.
Free the guy!

CEG
said

Come on...what is wrong with you people. There is absolutely no justification for cruelty to animals. We are supposed to be a modern, more enlightened society and there are still people like this behaving like barbarians. There are humane ways to handle wildlife and have wildlife removed. Grow up...this is no more acceptable than hurting a human.

realist
said

I live in Etobicoke, and in my neighbourhood, the people get exactly what they deserve in terms of raccoons and other "pests". They leave garbage on the ground, litter everywhere -we live near a schoolyard and you would swear it's a landfill. Everyday while walking my dog I have to stop her from picking up chicken bones and half-eaten food items off the sidewalk/road that people have just dropped there. People live like filthy animals and then get angry when raccoons move in to partake in the food THEY couldn't be bothered to dispose of properly?? NO sympathy!! Noone has the right to beat an animal with a shovel - not when there are more humane options available.

Amir
said

What about Animal Cruelty against the RATS. Should people get prosecuted if they stomp it or hit it with a Shovel.You know those poor, cute RATS.

I am against Hunting and Animal Cruelty in the wild, but when you do move to your property you have the right to defend your PROPERTY.

Rick
said

At worst, this guy is probably guilty of hunting without a licence. A raccoon is a wild animal not covered by the legislation dealing with domestic animals. Injuring a wild animal is by definition "hunting" it and covered by Fish and Wildlife legislation. Once again, there is no need for "shock and awe" police tactics. We obviously have too many police on the payroll if they have time to pursue such nonsense as charging people with animal cruelty and weapons offenses in such circumstances as this one.

Art
said

It's ridiculous the number of bleeding heart liberals there are out there. You people who wish harm upon this man should be ashamed of yourselves. If you love all animals so much, then why don't you take these raccoons in yourself and raise them like your kids? No, let me guess, your kindness stops here on the internet and when it comes time to taking action you're too busy. Typical NIMBY attitude I would expect from you "animal lovers" out there. I hope this case gets thrown out and the city reviews their trap and release policies. Taking a raccoon down the street is not going to stop them from coming back. Good for this man for doing something about them.

daryn
said

I think the consensus here is we have a man that did no wrong, and over zelus cop who wants brownie points with his CO and a nosey neighbour who called it in. Great money well spent, Come on get a grip on reality.

Will
said

Stupidity, but I expect nothing else from the peta weirdo's & the GTA in general.

Jarrett, Ottawa
said

Agreed that arrest is not the right response to this issue let alone possible jail time where a fine would be more effective and efficient to our system. Attacking animals (pest or not) with a shovel is not a suitable response either. There are many alternatives to the problem such as live traps or calling pest control. These are living things and should therefore be respected. In the end it would have been much less costly for him to buy a couple live traps.

Louis
said

rediculous...cruelty to animals? injured raccoon in rehab? weapons charge? Really?

embarassing...I need to find a new place to live.

Pure ridiculous seeing a man off in handcuffs for this. Insanity.

Kevin McDonald
said

This guy gets cuffed for killing baby raccoons - surely wrong - but an abortionist walks the streets and profits from killing human babies.

What happened to Canada's moral compass?

Sam C
said

Apparently the raccoons didn't see the "No Raccoons Allowed in the GTA" sign. I'm not sure what you people would do if you lived in "the north" -- Parry Sound, Sudbury, Sault Ste Marie. I had a porcupine waddle up the driveway last week while bar-b-quing, and have watched bears wander across the lawn. Raccoons ARE pests, but there are better ways of dealing with them than whacking them with a shovel.

hemusbull
said

With my sympathy to all live beings, I can't accept the fact this guy is going in court of law. Instaed, I think, there should be preventive mechanism to not permit this useless and dirty animals to make colony in someones' property. On top of this we, honest taxpayers should not pay money for nothing.
Leave the guy free!

Munro - GTA
said

Yes, this is crazy. Racoons may look 'cute' with the hair on them two shades of colour and it looks like they are wearing a mask, ahhh. Give me a break ! They are dirty, eat out of the garbage and damage things. They are wild animals. Hitting them with a shovel causes needless suffering. But he could have used a broom. Rapists don't get 10 years.

Marjorie
said

This is ridiculous! A person now doesn't even have the right to protect or live on their private property? Whats next, banning eating meat? This is nature! WE ARE NATURE! We are not above being of nature. Just because all our food comes in pretty little( plastic- I will add)containers does not mean, you your self are not on the food chain any longer or that you are part of the food chain. You live in the country, and have wild creatures threatening your land, crops, and children... then make that ridiculous phone call. Also, what right do the police have in arresting this man?? I think that should be looked at. Under what authority?

TimT
said

There is no excuse for the brutal savage killing of these animals like that. None. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to call someone to get rid of them. To the person suggesting they release them around the corner, that's simply absurd. Get a clue.

MissK
said

Have any of you heard of pest and animal control? What in the world is wrong with people who think it's okay to hurt defenseless animals just because they're on your property? Sorry, they couldn't read private property laws to know they shouldn't be there. And news flash, they lived on this land long before any of us did. Animal cruelty is animal cruelty whether you'd have the animal as a pet or not. If it had been a mother with her kittens that he'd tried to beat to death with a shovel, you'd all have something different to say about this man. Shameful.

jons
said

animals have no rights....
it just the tree hugging hippies,peta lovers makeing a big stink over a usless raccoon ,that are alway infested with virus .
the sooner we get rid of these raccoons the better off we will all be .

doitright
said

Stop those hypocrisies: we develop buildings like crazies, destroying the forests, natural habitats,...and we are trying to tell people to learn to "share the planet, blablabla" and entice people to "break someone toes" when that person is just protecting his properties. The racoon is a pest. Lots of them around hurting our children. If you really want to "share your living" with those pests, take them home. There are lots of children in need that you could help instead of worrying about those pests.

Calleb Burton
said

If these "nut job people" think humans shouldn't ward off intruders on their property, I'd suggest they approach an eagle's nest or the den of a bear or a lion and see just how they react.

Why do people lack common sense today?

Gundula Baehre
said

It still boggles my mind that there are so many people supportive of this man. I can understand him being angry and frustrated at raccoons, but to kill or to attempt to kill animals, especially baby animals with a shovel is just absolutely sick. I hope he gets an adequate punishment and faces some real, lasting and very uncomfortable consequences for his monstrous actions.

Hmm, if instead of raccoons, he had been accused of trying to kill a family's pet dog or pet cat (they can be just as destructive in the garden), would there be so much support for this person? I doubt it, I seriously doubt it.

hunter
said

AND where does it stop? Can we beat a cat to death? How about a dog that your neighbour lets out to relive themselves on YOUR lawn. Live traps or a radio on CBC talk for a few days gets rid of them too. This has nothing to do with private property or middle class. There going to the lower class and upper class places too. No mention of trying to do anything but beat them to death. This is todays mentallity, if you cant solve a problem kill the problem. Get your politicians to have animal shelters that will loan live traps to you to capture these animals. they really are no more of a nusiance than some peoples kids. here's some advice, think, read up, surf the net and ask for idea's. The talk radio I said in the begining does work in my area.

javajim in nb
said

The posters who raise the objection to people moving into the animals' habitat are wrong; this is a case of the raccoons moving into human habitat. The man should be allowed to remove/destroy these destructive and brazen pests to protect his property. Yes, raccoons are 'cute', but that does not make them anything more than destructive and nasty nuisances. The money used to prosecute this man should be better used to exterminate the pests.

Dan from Northern Ont
said

They took him away in cuffs... just wow... What a world we live in.

Lisa Koski
said

We all have to live with wildlife since it's their home, too. All it takes is a quick Google search to find some humane ways to keep raccoons out of your garden. Get a dog, a motion sensor hooked up to spray water, a fence! There's absolutely NO reason to ever hurt innocent creatures.

J.C.
said

Man has to learn to live with the wildlife surrounding us as we build more and more homes into their territory. It was not necessary for this man to attack these creatures (animals and not rodents by the way as so many think)by hitting them with a shovel. There are steps he could have taken that would not have done no harm to them and yet would have kept them off his property. If he had a problem with them he only needed to do the research or checked with Natural Resources Canada on what he could do for prevention. Oh yes but it is too easy for this type of person to be violent with them rather than spend a few minutes to solve the problem without resorting to violence. Oh and by the way we are the trespassers as we humans stole the land from these creatures and others like them who used to roam so freely in this country!! for children to be bit they must have touched the animal or were trying to feed them unless the creature was rabid, so why did the parents not teach the kids to stay clear of them?? Animals do not reason as people do (well at least some anyway)they merely react to what they consider a possible threat etc. People are the foolish ones not animals. I saw this recently in a trip to the west where I saw tourists get out of their vehicle to get closer to a black bear on the side of the road to obtain a picture! Had something happened who would have taken the blame - the bear likely would have been shot!!!

Paul ~ Kitchener
said

Here is just another example of the "Law" infringing on the "Rights of the People". This man was perfectly protecting his property, and his families safety, & looking to rid his property of this troublesome animal. Look how are money is spent & wasted on this trivial matter. Now we have police costs / jail costs / bail costs / court costs / fine " ~ " FOR WHAT " ! Stupidity rules supreme, and this is a "WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS @ ITS BEST " !

Disgusted
said

You people should be ashamed of yourselves. There are humane ways of relocating animals as opposed to beating them to death with a shovel. My neighbour's little toy dog is always squeezing through our fence and leaving his business on my lawn...can I beat it to death the next time I catch it?

This is an example of a civilized society. Animals have a right as living creatures to live among our environment. Remember they were there before we were. I think they should throw the book at this guy to make him an example.

NL
said

Raccoons are susceptible to a large number of different infectious agents including bacteria, viruses, and parasites. Several of these infectious diseases are zoonotic (rabies).

Dong Nguyen is also a victim of the city responsibility in term of controlling these annoying animals which damaging the plans and properties. Hope he is not got the disease from racoons.

Please solve the problem from the source.

kjs
said

I sympathize with this man in so far as he will now have to go through our court system - which appears to be a giant money making machine rather than an instrument of justice. However, I don't agree with the cruel treatment of any animal. If you are defending your life, fine - otherwise, use a live trap. The animals have lost so much of their natural habitat through urban sprawl and they are just trying to survive too. Taxpayers would be better served if this man had to pay a significant fine, rather than going through the courts and serving jail time.

KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

Absolute madness....Eventually the home owner's only remaining "right" will be to pay the tax bill for all this over-governance and foolishness.....

Nothing is Safe
said

We are so disconnected with nature and so into our electronic devices have we forgotten that humans move in and take away their homes, we take more than we need and are extremely wasteful as an intelligent species. Regarding disease, animals are not the only species that carry disease humans can carry lethal germs.

I applaud the media for making this a news item. All the home owner need to do is call the wildlife services to move the family of raccoons. I have raccoons on my property, but I live in a rural area. I let them and other wild animals live like they normally would if I did not exist in this location. I do not bother them and they have never bothered me. Humans are not the only living things on the planet and we should learn to respect that. As for the homeowner and his shovel, he is intelligent enough to know the laws; he made a mistake and will be dealt with.

Doitright
said

We should have the right to defend our properties. It is ridiculous to spend taxpayers money on few racoons. The money spent on following these charges could have provided good education for a child for a couple of years somewhere in Africa. Racoons are pests afterall. If you defend them, why not take them home?

Ashley
said

Animal cruelty is animal cruelty!
This man had absolutely no right to physically attack these creatures, even if they are racoons!

I hope he doesn't just get off with a slap on the wrist... and if he does, someone should break HIS toes with a shovel...

douggy doug
said

I agree that bashing heads in with a shovel is cruel, but where do we draw the line on this exactly? Rat traps are not illegal in this country.

Michael
said

I'm sure the animal lovers out there are out to get this guy. Perhaps they'd also be willing to trap and then take care of these pests on their own. Don't even think about taking them out of the city to release them. That just moves the problem and now causes crop damage and issues for farmers. You do realize that we "farmers" shoot all the animals that are dropped off in the country? If you don't take care of the pest yourself, you are just moving it on to someone else to deal with it (NIMBY).

Terry
said

Cruelty to animals is against the law and a sign of a disturbed individual. He had no right doing what he did, so I hope he gets what he deserves. I am pestered by squirrles but I would never go to the extent of harming them, animals share the planet, get used to it.

Crystal in Ontario
said

It takes a very "special" and heartless individual to abuse any animal - cute and cuddly or not... when neighbors hear screams/cries from the animals...something is terribly wrong. Good for the punishment, may this act as a warning for other cold hearted individuals that would rather kill/mame vs pay the funds for a humane approach.

Shan on the BC coast
said

Oue town is surrounded by ocean on three sides and has huge trees that support the raccoon life cycle.The furry rat b#stards would rather dig through the buffet of garbage cans put out each week for pick-up.They are brazen and unafraid of humans and dogs and anything else that lives in our area. And they love the sunshine and are out almost any time of day. The cost for repairing the damage they do every year is very high. One common saga is having to wait out the maturation of babies every Spring before the damages can be repaired.Raccoons are pests and should be exterminated just like any other vermin that does damage and threatens the safety of humans. It seems so stupid to allow them to run wild and free at
the expense of homeowners.

spaz
said

So PLEASE tell me what does a homeower do ??? it is illegal to discharge a firearm in Toronto, and that includes archery....he can not poison the animal, he can only live trap the animal and transport id out of the city for release. FORGET about hiring one of those licenced pest control companies to take care of your problem.....they only take the animal around the corner and release it......so they can catch it again and charge you another $200....think they are in it for you ???

Gasanwu
said

Using young cuddly raccoon picture here to invoke sympathy is akin to using young cuddly bear picture and telling the readers that bears are harmless. Typical mass media manipulation.

Noisy neighbour + nanny state policies + over zealous police = man charged for trying to get of some pest in his back yard.

Now he has to empty his retirement savings on a bloodsucker so that he doesn't get thrown into jail, FOR NOTHING.

Our tax dollar well spent...

Max
said

What a waste of taxpayer money. This man should be give a medal.

Andrew in Vancovuer
said

jons
said

come on people give this guy a break the raccoon was on his property, he didnt want it there
so he did the right thing.
it just a usless raccoon.
he should be rewarded for getting rid of the pest.

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