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Committee finds Harper government in contempt

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There was a stormy session in Ottawa Monday, where a commons committee found the minority Conservative government in contempt of Parliament.
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Tuesday's budget could be a make-it or break-it situation for the Conservative government. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has included a few programs that could win support from the NDP.
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Tom Lukiwski, the parliament secretary to the government house leader says the Liberals had no intention but proving a motion of contempt against the government. Scott Brison, the Liberal MP says the Conservatives should blame themselves for what happened.
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Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff asks how Canadians can trust a government that has been found guilty of being in contempt of Parliament.
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A National Post columnist the contempt of parliament ruling is serious, but the Tories do not want an election; Tuesday's federal budget will likely appeal to at least one party.
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Everyone please take a deep breath and then go look in the mirror. You'll see the person responsible for the criminality and incompetence the infests our Parliment and ALL parties.

Colin Gee

Committee finds Harper government in contempt

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Committee finds Harper government in contempt

Date: Mon. Mar. 21 2011 10:10 PM ET

A Commons committee has found the minority Conservatives in contempt of Parliament, essentially charging the ruling party with breaking the rules of government.

On Monday, the Commons procedures and House affairs committee undertook a clause-by-clause debate of its report containing allegations the government kept information and spending estimates concerning tax cuts, prison expansions and fighter-jet procurement secret.

While the government argued the details in question were subject to cabinet confidentiality, opposition MPs countered that they needed to know everything the government did in order to make an informed decision when voting on legislation.

The opposition-dominated committee, which has already rejected several Tory-backed changes to the report, tabled the report Monday afternoon.

The committee met for three days last week, to probe allegations the government breached parliamentary privilege on two fronts: by failing to share cost estimates, and by International Cooperation Minister Bev Oda's alleged involvement in a handwritten "not" scrawled on an international aid agency's already-signed funding proposal.

During question period in the House of Commons Monday, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said Canadians will find it hard to trust the Tories in the face of "such flagrant abuse of power."

Government House Leader John Baird countered that the Conservative government brought greater accountability to Parliament Hill.

"Let me be very clear, this government is the government who acted very expeditiously to bring in the Federal Accountability Act, to clean up the ethical mess that we inherited from the previous Liberal government," Baird said.

Monday's report included a two-page dissenting report written by the committee's Conservative members. In it, they dismiss the opposition's findings as "simply a piece of partisan gamesmanship."

The Tories say the opposition ignored supplementary documents the government provided last week on the costs of its legislation, and accused them of having "prejudged the outcome of the hearings before they had even begun."

While the report does not recommend sanctions, NDP committee member Yvon Godin called the contempt finding a "sanction on its own."

A separate draft report on whether Oda intentionally misled Parliament could be unveiled Tuesday, but a final report on the matter is not expected until Friday.

Reports embarrassing, but damage is elsewhere

In Ottawa, CTV's Richard Madan explained that while the content of the reports may prove embarrassing to the government, the real political damage may come from what the Opposition does with them.

The findings of either report could be used to bolster a make-or-break vote in the House, he said.

While the contempt finding cannot trigger a confidence vote, the Liberals could use what it calls evidence of the government's abuses of power to justify introducing a non-confidence motion on Friday.

"The information in this report can be attached to a vote on Friday, which could of course trigger an election and send us all to the polls," Madan reported.

Even if the opposition loses its nerve and backs off the threat of a non-confidence motion, Parliament will continue to teeter on the brink of a snap election this week.

That's because Finance Minister Jim Flaherty is set to table the government's latest federal budget on Tuesday. It will be debated on Wednesday and then put to a vote as early as Thursday.

When pressed to reveal his plans to topple the government or not in the coming days, Ignatieff refused to be pinned down.

"I honestly don't know what's going to happen this week but I'm ready for anything. We could go (to the polls) this week or next year," Ignatieff told CTV's Question Period on Sunday.

Watching developments on Parliament Hill, CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife said although the signs are pointing to an inevitable election call, "Anything can happen in politics."

For example, Fife told CTV News Channel on Monday, the government could have a few surprises in store for its budget announcement.

"If the government decides to put in some goodies that might entice the NDP or the Bloc Quebecois to support them, if they are able to do that, they might survive," Fife said, adding in that case, "there would probably not be an election until next year."

Budget issues to determine what happens?

Late word Monday revealed a few carrots in Tuesday's budget for the NDP, including $400 million to revive the home energy retrofit program and financial incentives for health care workers who move to rural communities. NDP Leader Jack Layton had made these and other items key demands in exchange for supporting the budget.

Layton said earlier Monday although a finding of contempt is "very serious," his party's "entire focus" is on Tuesday's budget."

"We'll see if we get there," Layton said about a vote on contempt. "The next item before us is the budget and that may determine everything else."

The Bloc could also be swayed, for instance, if a reported $2-billion compensation package for Quebec's signing onto a harmonized sales tax scheme with Ottawa in 1992 makes an appearance. With their 47 seats in the House of Commons, pulling in the support of the Bloc could have a significant impact on the Conservatives' political prospects.

Because the ruling Conservatives hold 143 of the 308 seats in the House of Commons, they need the support of at least one opposition party to survive any votes of confidence in the House.

Liberals currently hold 77 seats, the NDP 36, with five seats either held by independents or vacant.

If the government falls this week, it will avoid being the first to be formally cited with contempt. Canadians would then head to the polls, likely on May 2.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Crazy opposition
said

I am appalled these Liberals and NDP opposition MP's would have the audacity to even try in committee to accuse this government of contempt. The opposition has not cooperated with the government - they demand that they govern. We need an election to silence this stupidity which seems to have spread among this inept opposition.


Checkered Flag
said

The Committee recommendation is a sham. It's Ignatieff's way of bringing American sensationalism into Canadian politics and thereby minimizes our Canadian system of parliamentary democracy. And to think this is all over the fact that they want to govern, to make the decisions on Canadian safety and national security, to give foreign aid to every third world nation for any cause, to question EVERY project that the government approves across this country to help us through a recession.If Canadians cannot see what a farce the committee was, with its predisposed decision, I feel for what's about to happen to our country. Whoever triggers this election should be made to pay at the polls. Harper, in spite of his faults, has managed this country with a minority government, for over five years, having to deal with a global recession, a war in Afghanistan, repairing the damage that the Liberals did for 13 years in power, while trying to improve our image globally (and not within the corrupt United Nations). This is pure politics. We need to leave the Americanization of our system where it belongs, and Ignatieff needs to return to the States if he's going to run for future politics. He's doing a disservice to this country by running such sham and baseless committees (another first for our nation).


Lorna
said

Now here is something the Liberals are trying to side step, "Raymond Lavigne resigned from the Senate Monday, more than a week after he was found guilty of fraud and breach of trust, but he is still eligible for a government pension that could hit $80,000 per year." If this is not worst then the government misleading Parliament then I would like to ask Iggy and Jack what is. Not only was Lavigne found guilty but he was found guilty in a court of law not by some stack committee. He stole from the Canadian tax payers and the Liberals are turning a blind eye to it and Iggy is not saying a word about it. Why Iggy? I guess this really shows who the crooks are in Ottawa and Iggy wonders why the people do not trust him or his party. Go ahead Iggy and Jack, defeat the government and see what happens


Prairie dude
said

In our democracy, the majority has spoken, get over it people. What do you think we are doing in Afghanistan and Libya right now, we are defending democracy, so people don't get into power and write their own rules. So Harper play by the Parliamentary Rules or go HOME! Either face up to what your government has done, form a coalition with the NDP or Bloc to stay alive or do what you do best and PROROGUE Parliament for a 3rd time!


stan2403
said

go ahead. give the conservatives a majority government. it will be the biggest mistake we would ever make. the Libs will be getting a charismatic leader soon. so in the meantime keep a minority in there, be it libs or conservatives.


Mike
said

To Jamie, Ottawa, you wrote about the ETS scandal which I was not sure what you were referring to so I did a Google search. What I found was interresting and part of this report talked about and I quote "more than 100 people arrested mainly from Britain, France, Spain, Denmark and Holland." I must say, No Wheres in this report did I see any referance to Canada or PM Harper or the Canadian Governmnet. So I must conclude this is another Liberal spin to try and deflect the question of where is the $ 40 Million from the Sponsorship scandal the Liberal PM and government took part in?


Scottish Terror
said

Glad you said the Harper Government was in Contempt...I would not want foreigners to confuse the Government of Canada witht the Harper Regime. Harper will be remembered for 2 things...leaving the biggest deficit in Canadian history and his contempt for the Canadian Parliament / people of Canada.


Mike
said

Okay Ray, you have not voted for X number of years. No problem but I guess you also have no complants with anything our MPs do. If you do complain then I must ask you why you are complaining. If you do not vote then you have no grounds to complain about anything the government does. I, myself vote each election because a lot of brave young men and women gave their lives so that we Canadians have the right to elect our government.


Ryan
said

As the lyricist of our time, Ke$ha once sang:" stop taking 'bout blah blah blah". The opposition has the majority on this committee...no news here, just a Donolo ploy for an election message to counter the pathetic performance of Iggy.


Redneck Vic
said

OMG the coalition parties have condemned the Conservatives! Did anyone honestly think that there would have been a different outcome? The coalition want an election, i just hope that they have the decency to come up with a party name for all three and run as one party not run as 3 separate parties then try to join forces after they all lose. All i know is I WANT AN ELECTION AND I WANT A CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY THIS TIME! Lets get rid of all opposition they do nothing but bitch about everything anyway!


Flea Market Creep
said

Shocking that the OPPOSITION finds the Conservatives in contempt of Parliament. Does anyone else find it somewhat disturbing that this is how the opposition preps for an election? To run an opposition-dominant panel that finds the very people they disagree with on pretty much every matter in contempt?What the Left will do to attain power...


David J
said

Hands up everyone who is suprised that the Liberals had an attack ad ready-to-go the very moment the Committee declared the Conservatives in contempt of Parliament? Wouldn't holding a sham hearing ending in a conveniently predictable outcome also be "contempt of Parliament?"


robert crane
said

ok lets see where to start. first off yes the harper goverment bent some rules but at the same time it is for our safty as well we are kinda a joke with some of the stuff we have for our forces. the harper goverment has been working their butts off fixing all the crap the liberals messed up. i mean has everyone forgotten already that it was the liberals going out for partys and dinners on the tax payers going to spas and on vaction on our money not only that we have this joke michel ignatieff that should be running in the states not canada for office. How can anyone think after the last time we had the liberals in office to give them a chance again. with harpers goverment we have a doller that is stronger then it has ever been we didn't end up half as bad as the states did so i think what we have has been doing danm good for us. I know i will be voting for harper and i feel that any smart canadian would as well


LP
said

Why is it you Conservatives are so mad about the prospect of a Liberal/NDP coalition? How is it different from what the PC party and Alliance party did. They said our politics differ, but not by much so let's get together and get the tree huggers. And when the left tries to unite we'll call them anti-Canadian, or socialists circumventing the democratic process. Personally I think if the Libs and the Cons look deep down you'll realize that you are not too dissimilar.

Geof
said

I wonder if fellow Canadians realize we are being played as pawns in a "Cultural War". Last year the Liberal party pollster recommended that the party engage in a "Culture War" dividing Canadians by pitting them against each other. This is a particularly bad strategy especially if your aim is to represent ALL Canadians not just the ones who vote for you. No party should attempt to break up the unity we enjoy in as Canadians, it is wrong. I am far more concerned about the polarization taking place among Canadians than any political aspirations any party may have. Fellow Canadians we need to preserve the unity and cohesion from region to region and not allow anyone to divide us and pit us against each other.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ LP: Honestly, if you had a true appreciation for how our parliamentary democracy ACTUALLY works, you wouldn't come across as such a whining political malcontent. The fact of the matter is that the Opposition has the vested power and authority to bring down the government of the day if it feels that such a measure is appropriate, necessary, and popularly supported. For heaven's sake, grow up and adopt a "mature" perspective; one that doesn't lazily and rather foolishly rest on the silly, worn, and tired "dictatorship" angle. Thanks.


Max
said

Why are my tax dollars paying for Conservative attach ads on TV? I don't believe a word any of them say... always garbage out of context. The cost of one of those ads would pay off my mortgage.. that would really get my vote!


Sharon
said

Bring on Harper again for a majority government this time. He is the only one that knows what he is doing. Get rid of the other bimbos ie. Ignatieff and Layton. They are useless!


Peter 1951
said

Well I am surprised I thought the Liberals and the NDP would have recognized the most Canadians can see right through this, as nothing but a set-up for pre election campaigning. I for one have a hard time to compare a person crossing out the word “ YES “ and replacing it with the word “ NO “ as a criminal act. Now if we want to remember a criminal act lets all step back just a couple of years when the Liberal and their Sponsorship Scandal stole millions and million of dollars from Canadians that still hasn’t been recovered. Now that was a real scandal that still has people going to jail. Bring on the election I am looking forward to a Harper majority Government.


Jen
said

I am fed up with the Canadian gov't altogether. No matter what party is in power, nothing ever gets done. They are all a bunch of liars. I really wish we could have a leader who would actually DO something good for this country.


Americanization
said

Resent Nanos poll shows Harper most trustworthy.... LOL!. If that doesn't show just how little most Canadians pay attention to their own politics then I don't know what does! LOL!. Harper road in on accountability & has done the exact opposite, became the most corrupt government in CDN history, yet Canadians seemingly couldn't care less?, unreal.


Rob Canadian
said

If this is the only way the liberals can get elected by finding dirt, they had better clean their own litter box out first because they are not any better! I wonder what would happen if they had a liberal leader from the west, probably never happen.


Brad Vaughan
said

It should be obvious by now: All politicians, of all stripes, are lying worthless hacks. Government itself rests on the ridiculous premise that people are incapable of governing themselves, yet are capable of governing others.
More so then any of the various partisan scandals, Harper's bid to expand prisons ought to strike us all as particularly disgusting, but have any of the other parties done anything to oppose it? Not meaningfully.

The conclusion should be obvious - politicians all have one interest: the maintenance of prison society and the systems that keep us under control, and them (and their big business friends) in power.

Only one party is credible, and it is not a "political" party or formal organization: The party of insurrection. Canada could stand to follow the example of the ongoing global revolt.


Dr. James Bradford
said

@Niagara George: Since 1867 we have never had such a long minority government. Kudos to the Conservative party. We also have never had such an incompetent opposition Liberal bench either who have done nothing for 5 years but abuse and accuse. This after their defeat for criminal fraud in the Adscam. The sense of entitlement by this corrupt Liberal party has had no parallel since 1867. Indeed we live in interesting times thanks for pointing that out George. Good point. Thanks.


Freddy C Niagara
said

Geez by reading some of the comments on here I have no need to read the daily comics! A portion of these comments have been well thought out although it seems the most sensible are tweaked to the conservative side in common sense .Whats with this "Wendy" does she write for the new "Charlie Sheen" . We need a majority because the thought of another minority scares the living crap outta me since I almost smell a Liberal/NDP co-alition run and controlled by a Gilles Duceppe as master puppeteer.


Total Nonsense!
said

This committee is in contempt of Canadians. This is every bit a Kangaroo Court led by partisan bullies intent on trying to bolster their own parties in the polls by denigrating the government. With abusive MP's like this Winnipeg man Pat Martin how could this have any credibility? It doesn't in my eyes.


MARG MM
said

it's what it is....You can think whatever you want about me, but there is no need for name calling and hateful inuendo, towards me or anyone else. I am intitled to my opinion as are you. If I say I am better off that means I am, and I know that a lot of Canadians agree with me. I never said that the Conservatives were perfect, but certainly a lot more credible than former Liberal Governments have been. By the way, can you not even use a proper name but have to hide behind an alias???


LP
said

No matter past history or political affiliation we all must abide by the laws and rules. The implication that it is okay because the Liberals were dishonest too is garbage. All politicians should be held accountable whether you agree with their politics or not. How can anyone expect opposition governments to vote on something that they don't have facts on. It is like signing a blank cheque. Are you all saying that the majority of Canadians and their representatives have no say in legislation. The whole thing stinks and is criminal. I can't believe all you conservatives can accept this. It is anti-democratic and goes against everything this country stands for. Yes the Liberals did things they should not have, and I don't like them for that. But the entire Liberal government government never did what the Conservatives are doing right now. The are basically saying my way or the highway... and that is closer to dictatorship than democracy. If they could say we made mistakes or misunderstood what was required of us and became transparent the opposition would have no ammunition. Instead they simply say we run this joint and we can do what ever we want. It is the Conservatives that are forcing an election that no one wants by refusing to allow the MAJORITY opposition to have any input. No politician wants to be the one to force an unpopular election and the Conservatives no it. It is just a game and they think if an election is forced everyone will blame the opposition. All the Conservative have to do is work with their counterparts. If they showed a little cooperation it would likely benefit them greatly. Alas the politicians just want to pull each others hair and call each other names. Real mature.


BC Ed
said

Minority Conservatives and separatist Bloc Quebecois together have formed a strong coalition majority.

Watch the budget vote - Quebec will receive, Bloc Quebecois will vote yes, the budget will be approved as soon as tomorrow.

The opposition are very much an ineffective minority, but they cannot be otherwise...unfortunately.


John Lethbridge
said

I really resent the notion that those that conservative voters care only about themselves. In fact, it is conservatives that generally tend to support military aid, operations and involvement overseas for the betterment of those much less fortunate, they donate much more to church and charity, both of which would be the opposite of one charactized by thinking only of themselves.

Further, they are the ones not asking for national daycare programs or free tuition and every other handout. In fact, real conservatives are much more concerned about fiscal responsibility (not a fan of stimulus spending) for the sake of long term vision for our country. Let me point out that it was Ignatief who framed the question 'are YOU better off now than YOU were five years ago?'.


William (Bill) Jones
said

And you expected -- what ? Laurel and Hardy would have failed the humour test at this level.If anyone expected anything else, they can also tell you what the teddy bears wear to their picnics.


Weallhaveone
said

The election machine must be warming up, politics as usual.


Shane
said

No wonder why no young people vote anymore, this is a waste of time. on all sides.


Rev
said

Well sure this pretty much goes to prove that all sides in politics probably play dirty in some form or another. That being said, I still wouldn't vote for Iggy.


Ray
said

I have never voted though could have for the past 28 years because in my opinion all parties were scum and it made no difference which worthless mangy SOB was in power. But if the loyal opposotion scumbags force another election I will and vote conservative out of spite at the waste of money these jerks keep causing by forcing an election every year or 2.


Colin Gee
said

Everyone please take a deep breath and then go look in the mirror. You'll see the person responsible for the criminality and incompetence the infests our Parliment and ALL parties.


Citizen
said

The Headline should really read "Surprise Suprise" a partisan committee finds their opponents guilty. Speaker of the House Peter Milkin (Liberal), Committee controlled by opposition, how objective are they really. Oh well opposition will learn a tough lesson if they force an election.


BC in BC
said

What the Conservatives should do is delay the release of the budget for 7 days and see what the Liberals will do with the bucket of crap they created. All Canada will see how ineffective and useless the oppositions are. It's very easy for them to flap their lips and point fingers when they have nothing to lose.


Jamie, Ottawa
said

mike said "Liberals , PLEASE tell us where the $ 40 Million is from the Sponsorship scandal ???I keep asking but i never seem to get an answer !!" How come you're not asking the Conservatives for the money from the ETS scandal? You do realize that one is larger than every procurement scandal in Canadian government history right? But why educate ourselves on current scandals when we can live in the past. Did you know that as a result of this ETS scandal the Harper government is being sued for a quarter of a billion dollars? A quarter billion that you and I will likely end up paying.


Niagara George
said

There have been opposition parties since 1867. There has never been a government found guilty or contempt. To say this was an automatic guilty outcome because of the opposition is to forget the complete history of Canada. In fact, this is the first contempt charge brought against any government in the whole British Commonwealth. It should have started sooner, but the cards are finally beginning to whobble. Let's hope that when they tumble, we are not all taken down with these hooligans.


Carl
said

It would be utterly absurd to suggest that there was anything rational or objective about this finding. Contempt of parliament SHOULD be a serious matter, and should be treated as such by all parliamentarians of all partisan stripes. Unfortunately, the opposition has shown its own contempt for parliament by turning these contempt proceedings into a partisan kangaroo court. They stated before the hearings even began that they intended to find the government in contempt. Maybe we should be looking at changing the way such proceedings work, to ensure that in future a committee dominated by one side can't simply declare the other side to be in contempt purely for partisan gain.


Ian
said

We lived for 13 years under the dictatorial stewardship of Jean Chretien who would abruptly end his scrums with a curt "thank you, Merci beaucoup" and walk away while a question was still being asked. yet Harper gets called anti press. Chretien grabs a homeless protester by the throat and practically rips his windpipe out of his neck and gets lauded for being "the street fighter from Shawinigan" Paul Martin downloads all kinds of fees onto the provinces, decimates our military, refuses to cancel the gst as promised, raises UI premiums throught the roof, forgoes paying business taxes because he has his Canada Steamship Line ships registered out of the country, and gets called a genious at balancing the budget. Chretien lobbies the Business Development Bank of Canada to give one his buddies a loan for his hotel in Shawinigan, and everything gets swept under the carpet. The Liberals steal Millions during the Sponsorship Scandal and people still think they deserve 75 seats during the 2006 election. All this tells me that Liberals are Liberals no matter what and nothing Harper can do will change that. I remember reading the day after the election in 2006 that the Liberals and their supporters were saying, "we have to get back into power as soon as possible". I took this to mean that they felt that only a Liberal deserved to run the country, even though they had just finished a 13 year run. Pretty arrogant to me.


Tracy
said

How could this committee (of opposition members) not find the Harper government in contempt? It's more opposition B.S.!!


It's what it is
said

Thanks for backing up my comments about your "in it for me" support of heathen Stephen Marg MM. Wendy is not my cohort. Obviously you agree with the income trust fiasco, and no transparency in government. You feel blessed to support a government in power that is in contempt of parliament - good for you! You also believe that a senate should be stacked in favour of the governing power without promised reform. Nice! Your pleasure at our deficit numbers is exemplary, and your leader's documented drop in popularity becomes you (recent polls)! You post here with more speculation than fact on a far too regular basis. Don't lose sight of the fact that Harper has a MINORITY support in Canada, and has not in the many years he's been in office been able to convince Canadians he's worthy of anything greater. Some people ought to put that in their pipe and smoke it, but I'm glad you're happy about what you got. As for Canada, the picture isn't as nice as you see through those rose coloured glasses you have on. Again, thanks for your self interest though - you must be proud.


Mitchy
said

Everyone here is a partisan hack! There are simple facts that need to be followed. Ask yourself this basic question: Does a minority government have the right to deny the rest of the country's representatives the numbers on any of its legislation?If you were an MP - would you vote on a budget that didn't have any numbers attached to it? In a recession? Ever?


mike
said

Being in contempt of parliment, what a joke, If the Liberals were in power and had a majority they would of rammed this criminal bill down our throats, What a joke.


Democracy first
said

Any one else remember the last slogan for the PC party: Progressive Conservatives Change you can Trust. Where is the Oda magic pen so I can strike out Progressive and add Not?Say no to Republican tactics.


Vickie
said

I vote for the best party in an election but it is no wonder our youth do not want to vote. Who can tell the liars apart? I don't know how much more in this time of war, poor economy and unrest that Canada can take. We are over taxed and over burdened. People in Canada are paying more and more every single day and yet we have greedy politicians wanting to waste OUR money. What if every Canadians refused to pay their taxes until the Federal Government got their shit together? I am tired of paying wages for a useless Senate, a House of Commons who cannot pass a bill and a government and the opposition who refuse to work together for the good of our country. If anyone thinks either of these parties are better, than the other, think twice. Every time we change governments every bill, every budget and every incomplete plan is quashed and has to be re-researched, re-studied and we the taxpayers pay over and over again. All the while criminals continue to be let off too easily, housing and medical care is failing. Pensions and education lies in shambles. The war in Afghanistan cost us millions, it sits with the Liberals. The aircraft, Liberals began it years ago, increased defence spending was necessary because the Liberals cut it so far back a lot of our soldiers were lining up at the food bank to feed their families. Get a grip people, an election is a waste of time and YOUR money. Voting Liberal, NDP or Cons just because your family has a history of is no reason to vote. Is calling an election by a party who is as guilty as the others really going to solve Canada's trouble?


ian
said

You only have to read one line in this article to get the whole picture, "the opposition dominated committee". It's more or less a kangaroo court. Sounds pretty fair to me. Just like having a jury filled with rape victims at the trial of a rapist.


John
said

Why did Michael Ignatieff come back to Canada? He called America his country. He has not yet said that Canada is his country,so why is he here? If he is not sure of the country he is LOYAL to then why should we trust him.


Jimmie In eastern Ontario
said

Iggy can't be that simple when the polls says we do not want another $3M election.

Then again he does make Dion look like a genius...


shawbrooke
said

For the Conservatives the contempt charge is a worst the pot calling the kettle black, and at best a huge way to get the sympathy of voters, who remember that none of the previous governments were good providers of information either.The Opposition either called attention to their own failures or galvanized sympathy for their opponents. And the Opposition did this - why??Now if they had called contempt based on the Oda affair, then they'd have a point.


Bring It On
said

I have never supported the Conservatives in the past, but I will now in any upcoming election. The reason is simple: there is no other option. Let's give them a majority and let them govern.


Geoff
said

So the Liberal Party that under Chreitan and Martin raised 57 billion in EI premiums illegally by cabinet order in counsel (and that is how they balanced the budget) rather than via taking it to parliament feels the present party has abused parliament.What a bad joke.True the conservatives have been stupid but why another election when the only possible change would be to bring the other batch hypocrits to power. Make no mistake Canada that is the only reason the Liberals want an election. The party that had the audacity to call themselves "the natural governing party" craves power.As for with holding the costs of programs from parliament we all know how accountable the Liberals were with the cost of gun control and Kyoto.


peter in mb
said

This so-called Committee was nothing more than a B.S. show!!! when you ask someone a question you should have the manners to give them the opportunity to answer your question and not interrupt them because you don’t like what they say. Oh I forgot NDP Pat matron and the liberals have No manners. And if you are conservative you are not allowed freedom of speech. Bring on the election!!! Most Canadians can see thought this deliberate planed opposition horse crap. Just like trying to hijack parliament 8 days after the last election was well planed in advance


Charlotte
said

Now I guess that the Conservatives have been found in Contempt of Parliament if there isn't an election the opposition can just keep throwing this at them, I think that was the idea from the beginning Thank you Mr Miligen(Liberal)(Kangaroo court) as the polls certainly show Liberals with low numbers, but I guess as I heard on TV if you keep flinging C--- at someone whether its true or not it may eventually stick guess that's what oppositions are hoping for as they sure don't have another hope. SHAME! Harper is a diplomatic intelligent leader and has shown it domesticly and internationally and Canada is faring quite well, but if there is an election its going to hurt us all, the trouble is the Liberals know it and don't care, Heard Ignatieff on tv saying HE didn't know if there would be an election this spring or in the fall. HELLO he's the one who was going to bring Harper down and started all this, he said that last Sept so WHY doesn't he know, possibly because of poll numbers MAYBE.


Naveed
said

(x) Michael Ignatieff, Liberals.


Demonthenes
said

Since predictions are being bandied about..... I predict a Liberal/NDP coalition formed after the conservatives gain a weakened minority of seats in the HOC. Given the dislike of the Bloc by the cons, it is unlikely that they will offer them a 2 Billion dollar bribe to stave off a non-confidence vote. We are going to the polls since that's what Harper wants anyway. Given the collective numbers supporting Liberals and NDP (47%) to the Cons 38.6% (sure to fall somewhat), the only move possible for Ignatieff and Layton is to form a coalition if between them they have a majority of seats. Even if they don't they could get the support of the Bloc and still form the government. Layton knows he will never form the government on his own. Ignatieff knows that if he doesn't move strategically and force a change, his career in politics is over. The only way for him to change Canadians minds regarding his leadership is to act decisively. Whatever happens this next election will turn out to be much more interesting than the return of the status quo as some suggest. Ignatieff and Layton are going to have to become strange bedfellows If for no other reason than vested political self-interest.


MARG MM
said

it's what it is..........Nice try, slagging me once again. I tried to respond the last time but CTV seems to have a bias for Liberal supporters and usually doesn't allow my replies. You and your cohort Wendy, are the ones to talk, all the while spewing your Harper hating venom. Of course I vote for a Government that not only helps me, but all Canadians. I would never vote for a Government that only cared about itself, would do and say anything to regain power and fill their own pockets in the process aka: Liberal. As to the Majesty comment. Grow up, and stop with the nonsensical comments they don't give you any credibility. I did reply to Wendy as to why my family and I are better off now, but chances are CTV won't post it (as well as this one) which is entirely unfair if they don't.


Brett
said

This is just a way for the opposition to steal some votes from the tories from uneducated voters. Harper majority 2011


Rick Norlock in QW
said

"Government House Leader John Baird countered that the Conservative government brought greater accountability to Parliament Hill."NOW THAT'S FUNNY!


yogi
said

Fact is Harper will not be allowed to run a minority government after the next election. One likes it or not IGG. will be PM with support from ND's and the separtists even though 75% of Canada wouldn't vote for him. It is time for everyone to think CANADA first......


NS
said

""The opposition-dominated committee""Need I read more? I think not.


M.M.B. Ont
said

@LT. A$ 65 Billion dollar jet deal???? Please read and get your facts straight and quit spewing lies. You must be a Liberal to exaggerate figures like that. You have even outdone Kevin Page who added in Pilots wages to the deal which does not belong there. The deal is for 65 jets costing $16 billion dollars over a budgeted 20 year period. And the money is not to be included in this budget. You Liberals have to stop lying as Wendy has posted a 100 billion dollar deficit which is totally untrue. Now this is corruption on your part giving false info.


mike
said

Liberals , PLEASE tell us where the $ 40 Million is from the Sponsorship scandal ???I keep asking but i never seem to get an answer !!


Laurie
said

Heaven knows why Ignatieff is so anxious to go to the polls.


Charlotte
said

Contempt of parliament, guess seeing Liberals and opposition can't bring Harper down the normal way through good politicing they must go the dirty and untruthful way, if anyone should be in contemp of parliament its the Liberals, they oversaw the biggest taxpayer crime ever the sponsorship and WHERE is the 40,000,000 dollars we taxpayers want back to help health care etc. Of course there are other things like Chetien buying two challenger jets with no input from anyone and cancelling the helicopters , that cost us 1000,000,000 so go figure guess Harper is doing a good job for Canada and we the people, I actually get taxes back since he's been in, Thank You Conservatives and no matter what: I know you deserve to Govern so will vot eConservative if the coalition decides there should be an election. Good work Conservatives keep on working for Canadians and not your own self interest as other parties are doing.


MARG MM
said

Wendy......Gladly, if this even gets posted.First of all our taxes are lower because of more senior tax credits, pension income splitting, and a lower GST which we have taken advantage of by buying a new vehicle among other things. We have TFSA accounts which means any dividends or interest are tax free.Regarding war, I believe it was Jean Chretien that sent us to Afganistan, the military in jungle uniforms while serving in the desert. Bankruptcy has actually gone down if you have read the news lately.The Provinces approached the Federal Government wanting to get in on the HST which was brought in years ago by a Liberal Government, and which, by the way the Liberals voted for as well when it came up before Parliament. The opposition wanted MORE spending than the Government was willing to engage in, and nothing gets done in Parliament because of an obstructional opposition. There you have it. If you feel that you are not better off, then that's too bad, but as I said before my family and I are. CTV, please post this, as usually you don't post my reply after my comments are questioned by others.


Alyx Crawford
said

@Wendy -- could you tell us how -- or even IF -- we would be better off under an Ignatief government? Or a Layton Government?


Jay
said

Les
If they were not doign well in the polls and they over allf eeling was people lost trust in them you could say yes.However they are way up in the polls and most polls show they have the peoples trust so with that a election would more then likely mean a majority for harper.


Sam C
said

Shouldn't a committee that is examining what is essentially a disciplinary matter be OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED. I'm wondering if the "opposition-dominated" committee was able to achieve impartiality?


pat sk
said

Watched question period today. Looks like Jack and the Bloc are throwing Iffy under the bus. No questions from them on contempt charges.. So I guess this means the P.M. was right that this is just part of the partisan games played in parliament. Hope it bites the libbies in the a**.


M.Allen, Ottawa
said

It is Not Harper's little secret all partys are in on it, politics is just the smoke and mirrors to keep us distracted from the real goal of enslaving us all though debt.. the International Banks control and set everything. DTCC check out this company, in their 2009 statement they brag about handling 1.7 qua-trillion dollars in transactions and writing Monetary policy .


Lorna
said

@ Wendy, look how well Canada weathered the resession compared to the rest of the world. And please do not spout crap that we are sitting so well because of past Liberal governments. If Harper did not have a plan and followed it, Canada would be in the same mess the US, UK, France, Spain etc, etc etc is in. At least Harper is able to take the bull by the horns and do something where as Iggy is still looking for the horns. For my money, we are much better off under Harpers leadership then we ever would be under Iggy and the Liberal party. I will vote for Harper before I will ever vote Lib as long as Iggy is leading the Liberal Party. The same goes for Bob Rae, if he ever takes over from Iggy the Liberal will sink even deeper into the bottomless pit, I saw what he did to Ontario.


M.H.
said

Did we really expect anything else from an opposition dominated committee?


anyone but con
said

x for anyone but con.Get your strategic voting priorities straight people and quit lib/ndp vote splitting that allows 70% to be ruled by 30%.They are calling us "coalition" so the least we can do is make them pay for their childish rhetoric!


Joe Spumolio
said

This is nonsense. I'm no fan of Harper but please, someone, give us an alternative. I do not trust Michael Ignatieff in the slightest. I also know what Jack Layton is all about. Who does that leave? The finge parties. Absolutely bloody terrifying. As much as I wish we had an alternative to the Conservatives and Stephen Harper, we simply do not. So please bring on the election. Lets get this thing done. I'm tired of Ignatieff and his BS, lies, finger pointing and lack of vision. We need a visionary, not another red liberal retread. Please Mr. Ignatieff, go back to your home in the US and teach your Ivy League buddies all about what ever it is you claim to know a lot about because it sure as hell isn't Canada or Canadians.


Travis (Barrhaven)
said

I predict:

An election will be called sometime this year, most likely in the next 4 months.

The Conservatives could win a majority, but it will be close. They will walk away with another minority government at the very least. Canadians aren't that disappointed in the Conservative government's performance. Many long-time liberal supporters will make the switch to the conservatives, after regretting doing so during the last election.

The NDP will gain some followers, as some long-time Liberal supporters give up on their party, and don't like the only alternative that stands a chance of winning something. Second best is still good enough for them, even if the NDP come in third.

The Liberals will have the most to loose. They can't be trusted. They are proven liars. They have already lost a lot of support, and the decline is increasing. Their leader is completely lackluster.

Sure, Harper might look, smell, sound, and feel like an American, and he may have made some really stupid mistakes, such as not being more attentive to world issues, respectful of other countries, reacting slowly so as to make Canada appear to not really care, etc. At least his government didn't waste billions of dollars they couldn't account for (remember: 1 billion dollars wasted by the HRDC under Liberal rule - just one of many huge losses).

As much as I hate the conservatives, the alternatives are far worse. I peg the Liberals as the worst for Canada. I should know, they have affected me year after year. Harper's government is done more for me, and fewer scandals have been uncovered.


It's what it is
said

@ Wendy, Great question to ask her Majesty Marg MM, but she's only an expert at whining about Liberals. Other than that there's been no demonstrative clue as to her knowledge about what the government actually does accomplish for Canada other than stoke her "senior's" coffers. As Margie posted earlier today, She votes Federally for what's in it for her, not the Country, and this is the problem with Conservative voters. They live in a "ME, ME" world, and to hell what's right for Canada.


Spence in Ontario
said

""Let me be very clear, this government is the government who acted very expeditiously to bring in the Federal Accountability Act, to clean up the ethical mess that we inherited from the previous Liberal government," Baird said. " And this is the government that acted like complete hypocrites by campaigning on government accountability and transparency and then breaking that promise over and over again.


Bob in Montreal
said

Time to bring those poor old fighter jets back to Canada to enforce a "NO B.S. Zone" over Liberal Party headquarters in Ottawa.


Much Ado about Nothing
said

Opposition Dominated Committee finds Leading Party in Contempt of Parliament: Next up in our newscast, Businessman says leading competitor is evil and eats children.


LT
said

I been a Harper fan for awhile, but the few years or so I lost interest.. I have seen some questionable actions by his party starting from Bernier, Jaffar and wife, g20 spending and finally $65 billion fight jets deal. For quarter of that amount, government could have asked Bombardier to build us stealth fighters. It would've created more jobs, and long term solution.


Les
said

Do I smell another Parlimentary "Perrogi" soon?


Jamie
said

So were you Conservative defenders also cheering on Mubarak?


Kojak
said

Carpe Diem. Conservative minority.


Alexandria
said

P.M. Harper has a SECRET AGENDA does he?If it a secret how the hell do you Liberals and NDP know aboout it?Talk about stupidity it just boggles the mind don't you think?


Wendy
said

@Marg MM Could you please explain how you are better off under the Harper dictatorship? We have high unemployment, we make less money than we did 6 years ago, housing prices are through the roof thanks to Harper's zero down mortgages, food prices keep going up, gas is a ridiculous price considering we have lots. Canada gained it's sovereignty by being nice, we didn't have to go to war. Canada getting involved in these wars makes Canada a target for terrorism. We have nothing to gain & innocent people get killed. Canadians enjoys a skyrocketing bankruptcy rate that's 20.4% higher than pre-recession. WE pay higher taxes & Harper bribed BC & Ontario with billions of dollars to adopt his Harper's Sales Tax. Harper has increased our deficit by over 100 billion, we have to pay interest on that of about 16 million per day. Opposition parties only agreed to 13 billion in stimulus spending, Harper spent 8 times that. Nothing gets done in parliament because Harper acts like a little kid in the sand box. How is your life better?


Linda in Vancouver
said

I would urge BC Ed to take a second look at what he is suggesting. As a resident of a two party province,surely you kbnow that not votong for a Liberal in BC elections,gives the NDP a victory by default. That's what federal politics has evolved to as well. BC wants a place at the national table, and it's federal Liberals who refuse to offer any of the western Canadian provinces that place. I do love your idea about separating provincial from national parties. Would you think that would be a great way to organize a democratic Senate? I think it would be a good starting place, so the "house of sobre second thought" could really be just that. And not a pawn of any fedeal party. But here's a huge issue with me.I get the feeling my criticism it to pointed,since my main issue rarely gets posted. But if you are not just one of the "Harper Haters",or part of the Liberal spin machine.If you are serious about knowing everything you should know.google the works of "Vivian Krause".Try to be open mined,then just FOLLOW THE MONEY.If even half of what she writes is true.trusting the current Liberal party could be a huge mistake.They appear to be very closely aligned with a whole lot of people for whom Canadian sovereignty is not something they care a whole lot about. I love this country with a passion.I do not fight for Liberals or Conservatives.I fight for a better Canada,that is governed by Canadians,and a Canada that includes BC. I firmly believe that the politcal left is hiding something that we all should know.It may not mean laws have been broken,but why will no one answer Vivians questions?I have e-mailed the NGO's she talks about.Have you?


Steve in Manotick
said

Harper Gulity [X] Toss the bum into the street


Karl
said

Of course a Committee that is dominated by Liberals with rule this way. It is in there best interest to force an election this way instead of an election. [x] Conservative majority
Even if the current government is in contempt, its still a better government then what the opposition offer.


Albertaboy111
said

We had a minister stand in the house and tell us CIDA denied Kairos funding because "it did not meet CIDA requirements". We later found out that she over ruled CIDA, who had approved the funding. That is pretty hard to defend as anything but an attempt to mislead the house.It's sad that instead of admitting they are wrong, this government is willing to fight tooth and nail, until they are found in contempt of parliament, and Canadians themselves, before they will comply, and even at that point they brush off this unprecedented ruling as some sort of opposition conspiracy. I have news for you. We have had many minority governments in this country, and there is a reason this is the FIRST time any government has been held in contempt. And not just once, but on two counts...


Canmom
said

Contempt of Parliament, why that's nothing new for this government ~ Proroguing Parliament to avoid dissent, another famous Harper trick. Shame on anyone who condones the Conservative Party's actions and their lies. Privatizing our water??? The G20 ~ and the abuse of CANADIAN human rights. Orchestrating the kettling and caging of OUR people. The backroom deals with the US ~ I could go on and on and on....Shame on anyone who supports this Prime Minister and his corrupt party. Shame on you all!. Wake UP people, the fact that you can't see what Harper is really all about worries me to no end. I could tell he was no good, the first time I laid eyes on him. He's the worst PM in the history of our country, the most corrupt and has set up back years in a world standing.


Louie
said

Typical Liberals, they believe they have the define right to rule. Heaven help us.


jay
said

Don Aitken
The bottom line is what do the liberals have to gain from an election nothing if anything it would cost them to lose seats.


rodney
said

wohoo conservative majority here we come


Doug
said

Is anyone else getting tired of all this proroguing and over-throwing of government through non-confidence votes? Is this now the norm for Canada? This election talk is nonsense. If we go back to the polls this spring, there may be a few seats that shift here or there, but ultimately the Tories will re-win a minority government and it will have cost us taxpayers millions of dollars for ultimately no change. If this happens, I hope that people remember which parties voted down the current budget and blame them!


George Alberta
said

This government has shown contempt for parliament and our democratic values from day one. Their "in & out scheme in 2006" not only demonstrates their contempt for democracy but is an overwhelming display of their corruption and disregard for the law. They can scream all they want about appealing to the Supreme Court but I'd be very surprised if the court even hears their case, anyone with an IQ. over 10 can see through it. Mr. Harper sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them. This government must be defeated, vote abc. "anyone but conservative" Harper really getting tough on crime when a cop who kills 2 people gets a $1500 . fine and another gets docked a day's pay for gross negligence concerning his work ethics.


malcolm
said

I think the three stoogies will throw us into an election, then try and form an partnership to run the country. The libs, ndp and bloc just care about one thing, getting their names in the history books. Economy HA raise taxes. Their entire plateform is to raise taxes on everyone and hit the big companies with huge tax grab. But there are still people that believe especially the media that a coalition of the 3 stooges are better than a majority Harper. Maybe they wouldn't be so eager to go to the polls if each of the parties had to pay for their own campaign, but when the tax payer flips the bill for the libs or Jack or the bloc and now the tree huggers. Let's just have a election every year. Let's spend another $100 million of the tax payers money WHO CARES right.And we thought Gadhafi was crazy


PeterNS
said

Let me get this strait Iggy. The Harper Conservative government just successfully navigated Canada's way through the worst recession since the 1930's putting the Nation ahead of the rest and you want me to vote Liberal because......a Liberal government will fund a sports stadium in Quebec. Laughable


dan goode
said

Hey LIEberals!! What about senator Raymond Lavigne? lol


Prof Go Cart
said

Why is it that the party that campaigned on Honesty and Transparency tries to manipulate and game the system at every turn? It makes them look crooked, and since they are the Law & Order party aren't they the guys who say if it looks like it's crooked it probably is?


Graham
said

Awwww. isn't that cute. Iggy's trying to act tough.


Vanc Guy
said

[X] PM Harper - majority


Vanc Guy
said

The thieving Fed Liberals haven't changed one bit. They want to talk ethics? What about their (Chretien appointed) Senator - Raymond Lavigne who has been caught doing fraud and may be fired as a Senator!! For what?? Oh yeah - STEALING!!! It must be the LIBERAL way!!I still want our money back from ADSCAM Iggy!!


anonymous
said

the Harper Government has always been in contempt, but now its official


Don Aitken
said

Conservative apologists are burning up the communications lines to condemn Democracy in OUR GOVERNMENT. This should not be Partisan Politics, this about accountability. This is the first time in Canadian history a Government has been found in Contempt, not by the opposition but by the SPEAKER of THE HOUSE.Ask yourself the question would you defend any other party if the shoe was on the other foot.People Should not be afraid of their Government, if anything, Government should be afraid of their People. .


scott
said

I'm warning you Canada, given what Harper has done so far with only a minority government, god help you if you give him a majority. Just about every single politician as well as their aids have shown nothing but contempt for the political process in this country and quite frankly given what these immoral, unethical, selfserving bastards can get away with, this is never going to change. Unfortunately, the time has come when we should do as Egypt has done and clean house. Canadian democracy is dying a slow death of a thousand cuts and it appears as if no one gives a shit.


C in OTT
said

It doesn't matter who the prime minister is or what party or parties form the government. To quote a song I heard once: "Any way you look at it you lose."Politician from either side of the aisle are cheats, liars and crooks. They're human like the rest of us. They want power and prestige and to get re-elected so they can keep their jobs. They don't vote for what's best for the country or their constituents; they vote for what's best for the party. How many scandals from all parties have we heard about in the last 10 years alone? Why do people come on these comment boards and call one a crook over the other? They are ALL crooks!


mahanna ali
said

well THAT'S a big surprise...i think i'll have a heartattack and die from "not surprised" (a direct quote - aka plaigurism - from disneys "alladin")...that was a forgone conclusion from this opposition dominated kangaroo court which was provoked by a ruling from liberal mp/house speaker p miliken....HOWEVER - so what?...what now?...election?....well have you seen the LATEST nanos poll?...conservatives have a DOUBLE DIGIT lead over the floundering liberals...conservatives are polling at 39%(majority territory?)....by the way this same nanos research polling firm gives the ontario conservatives a sizable lead over their liberals....this combined with other rather pleasant election results this past year is a testament that conservatism is definitely taking hold and it's a foregone conclusion that this movement will not be deterred by questionable,trumped up charges by a weak opposition.....(just to mention, i'm not getting paid by the conservatives nor am i a party member - this posting is my own free will and it reflects my vote on may 2nd....LET'S ROCK!!)


John from Saskatoon
said

What did anyone expect. It's a commitee that is dominated by the opposition. Has anyone heard the rhetoric coming from them even before the commitee sat. The only thing that was more of a sure thing was the fact I have to pay my taxes. Anyone who thinks for themselves, and that would include Liberal and NDP supporters, can see this for what it is. I just wish the media would actually start to hold the opposition to account for what they say. Lets start with who asked for this deficit. Nothing, absolutly nothing this govt. has done would have been possible without the support of the opposition. They had the ability to bring this govt. that is supposedly destroying Canada down at any time. This is a minority govt. Right. I forgot Canadians didn't 'want' an election. That's responsible leave a govt. you think is corrupt in power for your own political interests. Who's corrupt now.


Steve in Vancouver
said

l have had the opportunity lately to watch the political channel C-PAC. The inquisition being conducted by the opposition was surreal. The Liberals and NDP and BLOC coalition where arrogant and abusive and they had no intention other than to impose contempt findings against the government. All Canadians should be very concerned by these kangaroo courts that are an affront to Canadian democracy. Lets indeed have an election. Every Canadian should make sure no votes go to the Liberals. Teach them a lesson. A Conservative majority with a NDP opposition.


abbey calgary
said

This government is the result of all those Canadians who "did not" vote in last election ... it only shows half the picture .... It's our democratic right to vote. If everyone voted it would truly show who we are as Canadians. For those who don't vote, are just a number on the tax sheet, they take your taxes and you get what you pay for. Especially women need to vote ... we haven't had the right to vote for very long, and women fought hard for us to have this right ... so let's show up and get the job done right ... let us all vote!


CMQ
said

I am all for accountability and finding out the truth but what I saw happen during the committee meetings was so immature and childish especially NDP Pat Martin and Scott Brison. Both men would ask a question, especially Martin, of a witness then before they could answer, or finish speaking they would overtalk or chide the witness. This happened over and over again. This is in such bad taste and if it was in any other forum the one doing so would be kicked out. There is nothing more rude and pathetic than when someone asks another a question and then overtalks them. I hope these two MP's are sent a clear message at election time. Pat is now called Pat Machine Gun Mouth Martin and for a reason. Maybe the polls are what they are Liberal and NDP because we do not want clowns like you representing us. Even Iggy, "I don't know what will happen," so I guess we are right, you are clueless. Show us a platform not such poor decorrum!!!!!!!


M.M.B. Ont
said

I understand the Liberal candidate in my area said on the local radio station the other day that the Liberal party was not going to bring down the gov't on something as stupid as the ethics issue. If this ethics issue is so stupid to Ignatieff and the Liberals, why the big GONG show with the Commons committee over it? This mindeed tells us this was nothing but a witch hunt to make Harper look bad because the Liberals have nothing to offer Canadians in an election campaign so they slaner this gov't to try to make themselves look better.! Talk about dirty politics! Conservatives have my vote and hope for a majority !


mike43
said

...and still the neo cons defend their emperor .


Pro-PYE
said

Ha!Ha! This is hilarious! The Liberals inventing the theory of contempt, then making it an issue. Oh well, this is what they want, so let them have the outcome. Seriously, I really think Iggy just wants it overwith so he can run away and hide for good.


Jill
said

GST introduced in Canada on January 1 1991 by then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and his Liberal PartyPrime Minister Jean Chretien and his Liberal Party announced October 7 2001 the Canadian Armed Forces will join the US war against Afghanistan2003 under Prime Minister Jean Chrétien and his Liberal Party sent Canadian soldiers on exchange to American units participated in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien and his successor Prime Minister Paul Martin and the sponsorship inquiryI'm for Harper all the way


Contempt 4 Liberals
said

Contempt of parliament? They didn't share information? That is serious. Passing around brown bags full of money, that's not serious? The C's actions were in public, in committee. The Libs? Well they keep it to the back alley. Somehow in their self righteous indignation they believe they are honest? The Cs are Canada's Team, not the Libs.


The Scape Goat
said

I can see it now. Harper waddles up to the podium and says he caught the perpetrators and calls them fascists and their acts herassy against Canada. He then fires 2 clerks, turns and walks away. Back to France to support the "No Fly Zone" bombing of Libya to ensure Europe's oil flows without interruption. Welcome to the ongoing saga of the Oil Crusades!Isn't that always the case when the crooks are caught, they blame a scape goat, continue to defend the crooks, and continue as if nothing happened!If Jack Layton gets his requested increase of OAS and CPP for the elderly I'll vote for Jack! Either way it's time for a coalition to remove these Tory vampires from office!


John P
said

Interesting - I checked the Kairos website when the Oda issue first broke and found it to be clearly an activist, left-wing website laced with their catchwords like "Social Justice", etc. --- --- Upon checking it today though, it has dramatically changed. Now, Kairos is portrayed as a strong, caring Christian organization with a list of churches who they claim are their members. -- -- Why the big change?


Peter
said

Should an election be called I really hope the opposition (Bloc-Liberal-NDP) are punished at the polls. Look at what is going on in the world right now and all these guys want to do is position themselves for power on a domestic front rather than work to contribute Canada on the international stage. Very petty. Shame!


Melanie Terrace,BC
said

LOL !!!! It's the opposition that should be held in contempt of Parliament.They're the ones who blocked,obstructed,and spewed vitriole and fear for the last 5 years.Not one day since the last election have they ever had any intention of compromising or cooperating.If anything,it has been Harper doing all the compromising,and the lefties doing all the obstructing. I am one who doesn't like these screw ups either.But they pale by comparison to what went on under the Liberals.Shawinigate and the sponsorship mess are only two things that come to mind.But ANY party that has Hedy Fry as a member is not a party I will vote for.She was NEVER held accountable for accusing people in Prince Geroge of burning crosses on their front lawns.NEVER.She was a Liberal MP,in the cabinet,and an immigrant herself.All that and she still accused this nation of being a "racist" nation.The real character of the Liberal party was bared for all to see,when not one of them took her to task for those accusations.And still she has a huge influence in the Liberal party.That was the absolute worst misrepresentation of the truth that I have seen In Parliament in my entire life.To this day,I cringe at the hypocricy.Prince George is not far from here,I am sure they would love an apology,but don't hold your breath waiting for it.Liberals are to self righteous to even consider the remote possibility,that one of their own messed up. No one who considers racism a real issue should even think about voting Liberal as long as Hedy Fry is among them.No one.


Goldens
said

How can a committee hold a Government in contempt. That in itself is contemptible.


Tony
said

Can we finally get somebody in power who 40% of the country can agree on? Conservatives are leading the most recent polls with 36%! This means almost 2/3 of the country doesn't want them in power. Damn, at least in the States they've whittled it down to 2 parties.


Marg -Toronto
said

So the Tories are in contempt of parliment..( ie the Liberals NDP and Bloc.) Where as I recall the liberals, with adscam, were in contempt of the Canadian people. Don't fool yourself folks, Sliding envelopes full of tax payer cash to companies Who slide it back to the Liberals for tax breaks and to allow the LIBERAl party to raise money for advertising, is FAR worse then anything the Tories have done.Hmmm tough one for me to pick.


Devil's Advocate
said

@John. Good point. Just think, 2 strong parties to choose from. 2 who may decide to work together with each other on important issues, and keep the battling for the slow times and elections where it was meant to be done. 2 parties who can agree to disagree, and stow ideals and pass bills that make sense instead of opposing things before they are even tabled! Hmmm has this EVER happened?... It would be nice...


Sam W.
said

Please, someone tell me how blocking legislation in the Senate (for merely partisan reasons) which was passed by a majority of Parliment is not "Contempt of Parliment". Also, how is giving away my money in brown envelopes, not "Contempt of Parliment"; as well as contempt of all Canadians. How is deliberately making sure that Parliment does not work not "Contempt of Parliment". To be sure it makes me have genuine contempt for all those idiots with all their shallow "outrage". Do they really suck lemons before they go on camara?


TEA in Sask
said

Of course, the opposition dominated committee isn't in the least bit biased, right? More meaningless dross from the Liberals...


M.M.B. Ont
said

For those who believe that seniors... will vote Liberal think again!! I have not been polled and I do not have a cell phone. My husband and I are seniors and we have NO intention of voting Liberal if there is an election called. We are old enough and smart enough to see what has been going on in politics over the years and are very capable of making a WISE decision at the polls! And to those who call Harper a dictator, please go live in Libya for a while then you may learn the definition of a dictator ! Harper (X)


Peter in MB
said

So this is the same liberal dominated committee that found liberal MP Ruby Dhalla clear of any wrong doing when she broke the Ontario labour laws by paying live in immigrant home care workers below minimum wage. She blamed it on her brother even though she lives in the same home and she singed the pay checks. And no charges we laid by the Ontario liberal government. How covenant, Must be nice to be a liberal. The charges against the conservative would not hold water in a court of law. It’s been obvious since 2006 that the conservatives are the under dogs that want all Canadians to be given a fair shake. And the liberals will stop at nothing to protect their elitist (we know what is best for you) way of life.


Drew
said

Truly pathetic, but to be expected from a gang of losers desperate to exercise some 'power' over the Cons...the woman writes 'not' on a sheet of paper and that means we have to go to the polls for $300 million? All to satisfy these idiots' lust for power...everyone knows that the Cons are the best of three bad options (BQ shouldn't be allowed into parliament in my opinion), meaning we will be right back where we started after $300 mil, i.e. conservative minority...only real change would be Iggy on a plane to Harvard. Again, truly pathetic.


rick
said

....and so this finding doesn't include the prime ministers money laundering scheme during the last election? i kind of like a ruler who's attitude is 'everything is legal as long as you don't get caught.' so let's give the conservatives a strong majority government and we'll never see problems like this ever again.


MARG MM
said

Paul in Calgary.....The Conservatives actually merged with the Reform and Alliance to form ONE party. Quite different from a coalition. If the Liberals/NDP/Bloc want to merge BEFORE an election, then fine go for it. To get together to overthrow the Government AFTER an election is another story.


oddmelee
said

the Liberals alays wanted to get rid of the Conservatives --they have not done it --sorry guys Harper Majority Government is better than any Liberal party anyday---cannot stand Ignatieff voice always crying--vote CONSERVATIVE or Canada will be all welfare


abbey stewart
said

In the next election, what we desperately need in this country is for "ALL" eligible Canadians to step up to the plate and "VOTE" ... that's the only way we are going to get a real sense of what Canadians really want .... and then just get to work with actually what voters have asked for ... we need a productive parliament ... the current parliament has sunk to historic low levels in behaviour and respect for the process ... so let's all get out and "VOTE" ... and if you don't vote, then shut up and stop complaining!


B in Ottawa
said

Canada's minority Conservative government will fall on Friday on a Liberal non-confidence motion, sending Canadians into a needless and wasteful $300 million election campaign that no one wants. Opposition parties are more divided and unfocused then they ever have been and are flailing aimlessly with no reasonable economic policy ideas, continually missing the target. The target is economic growth and job creation, and the Conservatives under Prime Minister Harper are on track to economic prosperity, increased job creation and financial stability.


Paul
said

So? The liberal party is in contempt of crying wolf, wasting time sounding like 2 year olds among other things.


markassp
said

Harper wasted billions on planes, tens of millions on a fake lake/bug repelant, hundreds of millions on G20 fix-ups, and now billions for Quebec?! So much for fiscal prudence.


MARG MM
said

lc....ever heard the saying "the older we get, the wiser we get". That is why we are more apt to vote Conservative,we have WISED up to the Liberal tax and spend agenda. All those remarking on the ads of either side. How many people actually watch commercials?? People these days mostly use their PVR's and fast forward through the ads. Money could be saved by all parties on that regard. The reason the Liberals were never found in contempt of Parliament, is the fact that they had majority Governments, therefore the committee members were a Liberal majority, and wouldn't be voting to hold themselves in contempt. These are not criminal charges against the Government, but charges only in the minds of the opposition. If the opposition had taken the time to listen, instead of constantly interupting, they might have received the answers they were looking for.


M.M.B. Ont
said

This decision is not surprise! This Kangaroo committee had decided the outcome BEFORE it began. In fact a motion was put forward to declare the gov't in contempt BEFORE any interviews took place and BEFORE any documents were presented. In particular it was a total embarrassment to see and hear NDP Pat Martin behave the way he did and speaking above Oda when she tried to answer and likened her to O.J. Simpson. This is a total disregard for any legal process and this decision should not be accepted from this inept committee. However, this decision may give us a chance to vote the Conservatives in with a majority. The wrongs of the Liberals while in power far outweigh anything the Conservatives have done. They have wprked hard in getting us through rough financial times and we need them to see us through the next round which may be just around the corner with the Japan crisis and the Libya situation. We don't need or want Mr Flip Flop at these crucial times!


Wildcat Vision
said

Wow, first time since 1913, a govt has been found of contempt of parliament. This is serious. We need a change of govt because most Canadians don't want crooks running their country.


Thixia
said

Why does the media think that having a non confidence vote is a bad thing. It seems to be the only way we will ever get another election. Harper certainly doesn't want to ever call another election. He has dreams of being a dictator, and I don't think we should let him.


The Thorn
said

I think that we should only have one poltiical party. Mutliple parties split the vote and it's a waste of taxpayers' money! :P


Ivan
said

The Cons. accuse the Libs of a collation with the Bloc, but they could be the ones to actually do it. If they do, let's hope the West remembers this come the next election.


Dan in Quebc
said

And the Conservatives still remain high in the polls? What does this tell you about Canadians and the rest of the federal parties that we can choose from?


david
said

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in front of a grand jury over a serious but dubious sexual harassment case. What did that do for his ratings?

Here the speaker (for only second time in history of canada) is opposition party (and so is his family active in liberal politics), and the committee is opposition, how is this much different?


BC Ed
said

Stubborn Joe:

I totally agree. It was the Mulroney government which allowed the new, exclusively Quebec, provincial separatist Bloc Quebecois party to first run in the 1993 federal election. This was a HUGE change from our 1867 Confederation agreement but, once again, politicians did not bother to consult electorate by referendum or other voting process. The change to our voting structure should be declared illegitimate because electorate authorization was not obtained.

I agree the distorted politics we now see is as a result of all political parties overseeing provinces and territories (which, for Quebec, is about 25% of federal resources if allocated on population) at the same time that a provincial separatist party represents Quebec in federal politics. No other province is allowed to stay behind at the federal decision-making table after provinces and territories leave. Bloc Quebecois is a minority separatist party who should not be there, either.

It is time voters recognized that people sometimes just need to find an issue to focus upon. If the issue was not separatism, many would fickle off to something else. Separatists are people who seek confrontation to create something different instead of co-operating and improving that which was established 150 years ago, but I no longer believe the issue is Quebec separation.

The real problem is that Canadians are tolerant and give hostile, critical, unreasonable people credibility (and power) they should not have.

I believe any provincial party, including Bloc Quebecois, should not run in a federal election because they do not represent all of Canada.


GHW
said

Gee what a surprise, a liberal stacked committee found the conservatives in contempt.


Chris
said

YES!!! Now! Are the libs going to bring down the Gov??? Are they going the have the guts to do it?? With the new poll, they may think twice!! Bring it on Iggy!! Harper Majority is in sight!!!


Adam in Bowmanville
said

Lately this government has been run much like the WWE or MMA. We have one guy holding the belt while every other competitor is trying to challenge for the belt.
Ya know what; why not make the next election like an MMA event? Winner take all. We're recoup the funds to pay for the advertising, it would be hilarious to watch and I'm sure we'd arrive at the same outcome; none of these fiddle-heads know how to run a country anyway!
My vote will be Harper majority (just so we can finally see what he can do and make a reasonable judgment at the next election) and I hope for a Green opposition party. Bye Bye Liberals - take a hike.


Mike Webster, Mississauga
said

This whole committee was a farce that decided that the government was in contempt as a foregone conclusion. It didn't matter what the witnesses said or did. It didn't matter what the evidence said....the finding was written (the Liberals carted it out the instant that testimony ended) before a single witness was called. Thi is a kangaroo court of a sort that would make the likes of Roland Friesler proud.


anonymous
said

Canada has now lost all of what little international respect it had


paulb Ontario
said

What a crock... [x] Prime Minister Harper all the way!! Let's get a majority we need a stable environment with someone that is not whimsical and wishy washy.


Paul In Calgary
said

The Conservative party is a coalition government. The Reform Alliance formed a coalition with the Progressive conservatives, forming the Conservative Reform Alliance Party. (C.R.A.P.)


Judy
said

so what other government wouldn't have done the same...Iggy especially! he would have done the same except that it would have cost us the tax payers a hell of alot more as he plans to raise taxes and the HST.....conservatives still have my vote


MARG MM
said

No surprise that the opposition dominated commitee found the Government in contempt. That was their goal even before the commitee sat. As to an election, I think that most Canadians are only interested in THEIR bottom line, and what the Government has done for them and I also think that Canadians like the way that this Government has boosted the military after the Liberals nearly decimated it. I know that my family and I are better off now, than we were under the Liberals, so that is what my vote will be based on. All the rest is just the opposition huffing and puffing to see if they can gain some traction, but it seems people are seeing right through that.sam & Prof Go Cart...... Interesting, exact same message. Anyway I just want you to know that I am a senior, as is my husband and most of my friends, and guess what?? we all have cell phones.Also, by the way, some pollsters DO call cell phones namely your Liberal Ekos for one.


Sid
said

Commons committee finds government in contempt! This is great news, it's always good to hear the truth hopefully we can give this dictator the boot before coalition forces start bombing our great nation. [X] Liberal majority or ABC anything but conservative.


anonymous
said

Canadian history is made by the neo-consthe government is in neo-comtempti hate to point this out but CONtempt starts with the letters C-O-N


Fiscally left
said

@L.A. How do you figure Ignatieff is a Yankee? He was born in Canada & worked in the US for 6 years. Gretzky works in the US & Sidney Crosby works in the USA so according to you Canada doesn't have any great hockey players & that would mean the USA won the men's gold. Anyone that hasn't lived in a cave all their life or made it past grade 2 should know this. Good luck on the learnin.


Dave Quitlam
said

"Richard, how big a deal is contempt of Parliament", "Well, it depends on who you talk to"...Holy downplaying the issue!! Contempt of Parliament is the biggest issue. It is synonymous to contempt for democracy. To my knowledge, no government in the entire Commonwealth has been charged with this before. The last person in Canada to be charged with this was in 1913.


Doug
said

Want to tick off a Liberal? Work hard and be happy!Give Harper a majority and we can all get back to the safe, secure, prosperous lives we all enjoyed before entitled Liberals determined that success was defined as whining, complaining, political correctness and professional victimization!


Lou
said

Is anyone surprised at the outcome of this circus?


J.C.
said

Prof Pye chart : Good to see you back! Missed reading your comments. I have trouble with the Liberals "contempt of parliament" claims as example what I saw in parliament was Bev Oda trying to explain only to be drowned out by the opposition,and finally give up trying to speak. If during parliament they would allow some to speak instead of overriding them there may not be a cause for them to complain so much. Unfortunately I don't think Ignatieff would ever stop complaining as he seems to just want power. In my opinion he would never be a good leader.


NoContest
said

It's amusing and terribly hypocritical to read comments here from people that are up in arms over a few Liberal commercials lately. Harper's government have been running attack ads for 6 months now...and now you think it's over the line with the Libs running a few for a week? Don't make me laugh.Harper has illegally spent 23 million dollars of taxpayer money on Canada's Economic Plan campaign that touts his party as being responsible for it's success. Government's aren't allowed to spend taxpayer money on campaigns so he's done it under the guise of "Canada's Economic Plan". This needs to be addressed immediately. It's so illegal and transparent it's sickening.


James Vancouver
said

Why is the headline "Election threat looms, should it not read. Thank goodness an election looms, Canadians will finally have a chance to boot this dictator out of office. I'm disgusted with the lack of help this government has sent to Japan. Harper sent buses, we have never had such a useless corrupt government in Canada's history. Harper has added more than 100 billion to our national debit, we pay 16 million per day in interest thanks to Harper's poor management. Opposition parties agreed to 13 billion in stimulus spending, Harper has spent over 100 billion & he has plans to continue to spend like a drunken sailor. A blank cheque top the USA for war planes that are inadequate for our air space. Billions on prisons when prison officials clearly say we don't need new prisons for imaginary crime, the only reason we might need more prison space is to lock up the corrupt conservatives, a new scandal everyday with Harper's neocon reformers. If we don't vote them out soon our country will be bankrupt & the rest of the world will hate Canadians. Everyday Harper is PM we lose more respect from the rest of the world.


Mark in Ontario
said

I am tired of elections. Federal, provincial and muncipal elections. The government we have now is doing a good job, better than any other opposition leader we have right now could. I do not stand behind any political party, I only vote for who I think can lead the country in the right direction and who's policies I agree with, that is my right as a voter. I do not blindly vote for some bonehead just because they represent a certain party. If Layton, Ignatieff force an election I will do my duty as a Canadian and will vote against them, because as a Canadian I am tired of elections and there is nothing substantial whatsoever that those idiots could bring to the table other than imposing higher taxes for absolutely nothing.


Stubborn Joe
said

How about NOT allowing Quebec's french-supremist party to run in this election? Then maybe we could have a majority government without them watering down our federal gevernment. Seriously, doesn't anyone else think it's beyond insane to have these guys who only care about Quebec running in Federal Elections? Too bad Trudeau let the french mafia take over our country. This is what happens when you give into the demands of terrorists.


Gerry from M.B. BUT NOT n.d.p.
said

Bring it on fiberals and socialists.


BC Ed
said

[X] anyone but Conservative:

I encourage the electorate to research our minority Conservatives and separatist Bloc Quebecois majority govt for information about RCMP investigation, corruption, and 2 first ever Contempt of Parliament hearings. ChronicleHerald.ca tells us about top aide to Harper Bruce Carson and his 22-year-old escort. The company he keeps counts, too...look at the whole picture…see the red flags:

- 65 stealth fighter jets (the most expensive jets in the world because they have first strike capability)

- $5 Billion combat weapons “The Harper Govt” purchased for Afghan war in 2006 after canceling the plan to withdraw the 40 there and instead send over thousands of combat troops

- Quebec Billions expected in budget

- newly built cages for dissenters

- separatist Bloc Quebecois (a minority, exclusively Quebec party with self-proclaimed mandate of devotion to Quebec and secession from Canada, who have been allowed to act as a federal party since the 1993 election, but were not part of 1867 Confederation political arrangements) and

- separatist Parti Quebecois (at a Convention called for April, Quebec minority provincial party leader intends to affirm secession from Canada by adopting a new charter (ie - using legislation, without referendum). See montrealgazette.ca Pauline Marois


Donny in Edmonton
said

How very democratic of those here to berade Prof. Pye Chartt and try to suppress his views in favour of their own. Real classy. Note the sarcasm. It's attitudes like those coming from todays liberals that often push many regular people to vote conservative just to spite them. Keep acting that way and you can pat yourselves on the back when the conservatives win another election. Just accept the fact that in a democracy there will be people whose views don't agree with yours and that at times your views will not have the most public support.


lc
said

One glaring omission in most polls is % undecided.When given the choice,the none/undecided option is clear cut winner usually coming in over 30%.Not a good omen for the ruling party.The only thing polls are showing now is that those who opt for conservative are more locked into their position.Since we know the older population tend to lean right and the older we are the more set in habit we become is this not exactly what we expect from these meaningless polls.DUH!Try polling when the undecided gets in the <10% range and then they may hold some valuable foresight.As of now they are garbage in garbage out


GHW
said

Our government has just successfully carried us through the great recession, we are helping to free the Libyan people, the Japanese people are in trouble and need our help and, oh yeah, the Michael Ignatieff wants us to be concerned about something….is he the guy that has been slandering our Canadian Government lately? I don’t know about you but he and his friends leave a bad taste in my mouth. I prefer leaders who lead with wisdom, grace and a positive transparent vision for progress and prosperity for all of us. Harper is good man and the current CPC is an experienced qualified group of people. This may change in the future but for now they are Canada’s best choice. God bless Canada.


M.M.B. Ont
said

Well said Spence BC !! Ignatieff has been saying each month from Nov that he was voting against any budget and would bring down the gov't. However now Budget time has come and he is unsure !! He knows he would look stupid to vote against a budget he hasn't read but he is chicken now because the polls show the Tories in a good lead. Ignatieff is now using ethics and slander to bring down the gov't forgetting that the Liberals record on ethics was very tainted while they were in power. The Conservatives have provided details to the Liberals on costs etc however the Liberals refuse to believe anything the Conservatives say and call them liars! If anyone is in breachor contempt of Parliament it should be the Liberals and NDP because of the number of MPs who are always absent from meetings including Ignatieff himself. He has been absent more times than Harper. How many times have the NDP refused to vote on budgets in the past. How many times have the Liberals been deliberately absent from important votes just to defeat the bill? This is contempt and breach of Parliament. Ignatieff is insulting and saying Harper is spending like a drunken sailor yet the Liberals and NDP have no qualms on spending half a Billion on an election which will result in a minority Tory gov't all the while squawking about the deficit they helped to incurr. But hey, bring on the election if it means we can ship this idiot Ignatieff out! We need only 2 or 3 major Parties and build a strong gov't and not almost a useless dozen like we now have.


Elizabeth, Ontario
said

How is it that the opposition parties can't hear Canadians when we say "Canadians Do Not Want An Election!" One can only hope, if they do go ahead and bring the government down, that Canadians will show the opposition parties the door and elect a majority Conservative government. Truly is the only option to avoid all this game-playing from the power-hungry opposition parties.


Hunty
said

I want an election so I can vote for Conservative this time


Jason from Lindsay
said

Why does everyone think that only liberals rely on cell phones? There are many, many conservatives that own cell phone as well. I didn't realise that being a liberal was a requirement for solely using a cell phone in lieu of a land line...I'm pretty sure that the polling numbers are accurate, just as they were in 2008. It's not like half the country has abandoned landlines in the last 3 years...


canadian
said

if an election is called, and you truly love this country, you will vote conservative, any other party would result in Canada becoming an embarrassment on the world stage, just like it was the last time the Liberals were in charge


TRex in BC
said

Steve, party coffers utilize very few tax dollars. Most $$ come from donations. There is a reason the Liberals don't have any $$, nobody likes a flip-flop leader


Bryn
said

Ignatieff is so hungry to get the PM's job that he's manufacturing all these charges against the Conservatives. Remember, these are all just charges by the "opposition-dominated" committee. It's pretty easy to level charges against someone, but remember that that's all they are is "charges". It's obvious that Ignatieff won't be able to bring down the government on the basis of the economic situation, so he's manufacturing "ethical" reasons, hoping to bring down the government on that. Folks, Ignatieff is going to cost Canadians millions of dollars in his push for the PM's job, so he doesn't have to go back to the US. Read the stories he's manufacturing, and it all becomes clear.


Jim Gerrow from Oromocto
said

Should you decide to vote Liberal then you might as well send your entire monthly paychecks to Ottawa. The Liberals will TAX,TAX, and, TAX . Prime Minister Harper is the best leader this Country has had in a very long time .


Bill
said

If an election happens, there is only one clear choice for me and for sane Canadians. Conservative it is! Keep Canada on the RIGHT track!


Jack Ryan
said

I agree with Proud Albertan. This country only needs two political parties. The others only split the vote and cost us tax dollars. They give us nothing. With two parties, one would keep the other in check.


Ronald
said

I want to see an election, because of the over spending on fake lake, showing off in front of his rich foreign friends but also the 29 billions or more that will be spend to buy american pieces of junk that will be out class by other foreign fighters in a few years. This man giant ego is another thing his loves for power and his gov. ministers must answer to him before talking to the press and he is a control freak and I hate to see this man with a majority gov.


It's what it is
said

The bulk of conservative postings here remind me of the story of the little girl scavenging through a pile on manure yelling "with all this crap there's got to be a pony in here somewhere". Well, there isn't a pony, there's one tired old horse, and trust me, he may be responsible for all the droppings, but he'll count on his supporters right until the end to make sure he doesn't get any of it on himself. To the rest of us, we're tired of feeding Harper the hungry horse and his party our Canadian oats for years, since all we have to show for it is what's come from the hind end.


GLENN
said

vote for NDP and Green and maybe the liberals and PC will get the message for once. Stop all the b.s. and get to work.
NDP can't be any worse for three years than these two parties fighting all the time and spending our money while havign big benefits,.



Intelligent Liberal
said

Prime Minister IGGY asked the question on everyones mind: "Can you trust Stephen Harper with power?" Of course not, that is why Iggy must become PM. Harper has a secret agenda. Only Iggy can be trusted to lead Canada into its future. { X } IGGY


Naveed
said

Why are many readers comments here deploring and against having an election? Surely spending on an election is not much more than what Harper spends on non-required military jets, summit meetings and his attack ads (prior even to an election), not to mention other expenses?So cost is not an issue. And then we have all the reason to actually have an early election, and that is to kick the contemptible Harper government out of office


Michael from the real world
said

The only poll that counts is the one on election day: the opposition are going to wonder what hit them [as are the taxpayers--$300 million for this?] The Tories will have their wrists slapped [after all, these are NOT criminal charges, but merely administrative ones, UNLIKE the Liberals--who, according to Judge Gomery, still owe we taxpayers @ $100 MILLION, and I want that back]


Naveed
said

It absolutely flabbergasts me that Harper and the Conservatives are totally arrogant and insensitive to democracy of parliament, and yet maintain a lead in the polls. Something is rotten in the state of---Canada, and it is called the ignorance of voters. Some voters need to be more attuned to what is going on, a total disregard for our parliamentary democracy by Harper, and a government based on corporation backing and profit at the expense of social programmes and needs of our average citizens.Another thing there is only one political party which is really calling the shots about whether we are going to have a spring election or not, and that is the Conservatives. Harper can avoid one if he wants by compromising on the budget, He could also prevent any opposition motions of non-further confidence. The reality is that he will not compromise, and we wil be in for a spring election. He thinks he has the high poll numbers and support. But look for him at his false attack mode, and making out that the opposition has brought down the government.


TheOtherLowellInBC
said

So I read from conservative bloggers that Iggy does not give out his policy. Now in his latest ads he is doing that and suddenly it has become propaganda. I am sure also that the conservative bloggers seeing themselves up in the polls are all feeling confident that come election time they have things sewed up and in the bag.


Jack Ryan
said

OMG - If we get an elected government in this country with "Iggy" as the leader, God better be good to this country. I think he , as well as most politicians are only concerned with the rewards they receive after they retire from politics and not the betterment of the greatest country in the world.


DrSinister
said

Bunch of nutters on this message list...anyway, an election needs to called just because democracy has been undermind. Dispite my best efforts, I suspect we'll end-up with another Conservative minority. And the only reason that will be is because the left has too many parties splitting it. The NDP, Green and in some ways the Bloc. I'm not sure how to resolve this b/c each of the parties represents a niche so to speak but if they were united then the conservatives go down in a blaze of glory


Jim, Montreal
said

Prime Minister Harper has been one of the best leaders of this country! Imagine trying to do great things for this country, with a bunch of politically incorrect minority parties that hold the balance of power, and trying to pass useful legislation. The Bloc should not be in Qttawa, as they are effectively against anything Canada, the NDP is just there(Why I don't know) and the Liberals......THE NERVE! I don't get why some Canadians can vote for these losers. I mean how the hell can anyone vote Liberal....after their past. The NDP is just there and the Bloc Heads...for what???


Mike
said

Why is the headline "Election threat looms..." and not "Election opportunity looms..."? Things like natural disasters, terrorism and epidemics are threats, not elections. Elections are opportunities for citizens to voice their opinions on government, in the only manner politicians will listen to.

By framing the issue in the negative (threat), you force the reader to view the opposition as doing something negative, when it is the right and duty of the opposition to force an election if the government has not conducted itself properly.


Mike S
said

@ Prof Go Cart, If that is the case then I am willing to bet that just as many Conservitives were not contacted because they also use cell phones, not land line. Should be a very interesting election would you not say?


cfnebear
said

with a "record deficit looming"
you have to wonder which of the three opposition parties they will try to bribe


L.A.
said

Say "YES" to Conservative and send Liberal Yankee packing. One's and for all..


al from calgary
said

My take on this is Iggy is in a win win situtation, win and he is PM, lose and he will more than likely try for a coalition so he can be PM. Failing in that he will resign and go back to Harvard, so any way you slice it he wins. After that the libs can go on their anti american tirade with zeal as they are being held back by the fact their leader prefers the US to Canada.


Prof Go Cart
said

@ Prof Pye Chart, Don't you read the news? Polls are no longer accurate because pollsters don't phone cell phones. Many liberals only own cell phone & don't have land lines. Your in for a big surprise come election time, the left will turn out in masses to vote Harper's neocon dictatorship out. [X] Liberal majority.


andrew 87 canada
said

All I have to say is that I am going to vote for the Conservative government. I think Harper is doing a great job. One of his agenda is building up Canada's military, which is badly needed.


Steve
said

An election would be far less expensive than the millions of our tax dollars that Harper keeps spending advertising his neocon party. He gave 140 million to one of his US buddies to make those big lottery style cheques & signs advertising the action scam with the neocon logo. He recently announced another 26 million advertising the action scam. Last year he announced millions spent censoring what the press could say about his corrupt government & that he would be paying neocons to spread his propaganda on these comment sections. CTV is the only media outlet where the neocons out number the liberals. Bought & paid for with your tax dollars. Next election [X] liberal majority.


rod
said

U force an election , u can count on me voting conservative


Chuck
said

1. Msg to all politicians,I do not want an election before it is mandated by law. It is a waste of money. Our money, not yours.2. Mr Ignatieff and the Liberals. Msg to you. Yes the Prime Minister is resisting any effort you make to govern, he is not acting like the PM of a minority government. Tough.3.As long as the conservatives do not affect my life in an adverse way, I could care less how he inconviences you. You faux rage and posturing only belittles all politicians.4. Mr Layton, did you say something? Most of us do not listen to you, although I grudgingly admire you personally. 5. All members of parliament Grow up, I expect you to act with maturity & respect.6. Mr Harper, you made some promises that you haven't kept, lucky for you, Mr Ignatieff makes you look good.


Dr. James Bradford
said

The reason the Liberals are doing poorly is because they chose the worst political strategy possible. Canadians want no part of this "Culture War" the Liberals are engaged in. This deliberate divide and conquer strategy by pitting Canadian against Canadian is wrong on many fronts and is already backfiring. Add to that Michael Ignatieff is not recognized as a leader and the show is already over for the Liberals. They need to rebuild not keep pushing ahead.


Allan
said

Well we are seeing a lot of Liberal propaganda on our televisions as of late. Tax payers do not need to pay for another election just yet. But to show Mr Iggy that Canada does not want him as Prime Minister then bring it on. As matter of fact he should head back down to the United States. What a cry baby this crack pot is. He is always mad because no one will let him play in the sand box. What a loser.


Carl
said

Please, let's just have an election and clear the air in Ottawa. Hopefully the election will result in a majority government for the Conservatives, so they can get on with running the country and the Liberals can get on with sending Iggy packing back to the US and rebuilding their party.


Ontario Dave
said

I welcome an election since it would be a chance to boot out Harper and his crowd of liars. I cannot understand how people do not see how offensive their approach to government is. They have broken every rule there is to break. They have lied openly and often, and still people back them.We need an election to get Harper out! I know the alternatives are not that great...but at least we would have a chance to return to some civility and parliamentary process.


My vote
said

[X] Conservative (majority preferred)


Janice
said

I think the Liberal party should be ashamed of how they spew their political hatred in the news lately. Their grandstanding (call it what it is) is designed to "dis" our current government in hopes of attracting followers to their cause (which is what exactly?). That is a poor way to run any political party. When they have nothing positive to say about themselves they revert to getting negative and nasty with the Prime Minister. No government is ever perfect but what we have now isn't bad either looking around the world and do not deserve the kind of abuse this opposition is trying to make of it. I sincerely hope it backfires on Mr. Ignatieff and his MP's as they do not deserve to be in power when they act this way.


It's what it is
said

And seeing that so many Conservatives like to dredge the bottom of the past against the liberals to substantiate their dislike for the party, take a look at what the polls told conservatives back in 1993 just prior to the Liberals wiping the Conservative Party into history with their landslide victory. Hmm, something to reflect on with a grin?


Oldie from Ottawa
said

Find it strange how Mr. Ignatieff expresses how he says the Conservatives are attacking his "family" - I find it strange that he mentions "family" when the only person he speaks about is his "dad" and that's fine but what happened to his "wife" and "kids" he has yet to speak about them at all. So glad to see the Prime Minister doing things with his "family" and to hear NDP Leader Jack Layton on his wife and grandchildren..something all Canadian Families with "families" "normally" do..."Proud to be a Parent and "proud" of "all" members in "my" family...


Paul ~ Kitchener
said

" BRING IT ON " ~ " BRING IT ON " ! This election is badly needed for onr purpose and one purpose only. To get the liberals into the 3rd party, in the House of Commons, & let the Liberals carve up Iggy, as they send him on his way back to America. This is probably the most unintelligent Liberal leader in the history of Canada - he's so bad he makes Mr. Dion look like Einstein. YES ! " BRING IT ON" - May would be a great month to destroy the Liberal Party of Canada.


Al
said

The bottom line its this government is probably going to go down in history as one of the most corrupt (almost a scandal a day) and one of the least effective in the last century. They have hardly tabled anything other than re-annoucements of things they never delivered on in the first try as "Canada's New Government". The poles may not indicate a clear change at the moment, but that's why campains are run. Obama was in a dead heat when his election started. Besides the majority of Canadians have consitently voted against these fake Torries and now have to decide which band wagon to get on to be the best chance for change. At the end of the day, the Reform party will have to realize that if Michael is just visiting, Steven is just leaving.


It's what it is
said

It's interesting reading the postings from those touting Harper's "lead" in the polls, but what they fail to recognize that support for Harper and the conservatives in EVERY aspect has DECLINED. This is nothing to boast about. I don't want an election any more than any other Canadian does. What I want is a government in power that works for CANADA and ALL Canadians. The current government has failed in that regard. To argue that we shouldn't have an election because it's not something we "want" makes no more sense than not having your teeth filled because you don't like the freezing. I'll suffer through the pain to fill the holes left by Harper any day!


Say No To Pye!
said

We must take down the CONS. Imagine if the CONS were a majority Govt? Imagine the abuses we have now multiplied by 20 or 50 or 100.....Mr Ignatieff, please take down that government who has already dig us a debt hole that we will need decades to plug back. Take down that government who is willing to spend 30-50 billions on fighter jets that he did not put up for tender to get the best bang for our bucks. This government who is willing to cheat, lie, steal and lie again to us go cover up their sins needs to be obliterate from the map like the Mulroney Govt was. Please Mr. Ignatieff, free us from this egomaniac Harper and give us a true and tried Canadian government under a Liberal leadership.


Debbie (Willowdale)
said

PM Harper does NOT have contempt for Parliament. That's the Liberal mantra which they hope if they can say it enough people will maybe believe it. The facts and truth is the Liberals have contempt because they don't show up for work in the House of Commons half the time and have largely been absent for votes.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Some "threats" are entirely empty, and a joke...as are certain bitterly desperate Liberal partisans who scramble daily, childishly adopting goofy hybrid monikers that exemplify their unrelenting personal political issues (Hello, "Mr. Not A Pye Chart" and "Anti-Pye"). CTV's neighboring story this morning on the latest national poll to demonstrate Mr. Ignatieff's divine destiny summarily makes it clear and delightfully obvious: 39% vs. 28% (Conservative/Liberal support); 27% vs. 13% (Harper/Ignatieff trustworthiness); 26% vs. 15% (Harper/Ignatieff leadership vision), and, wonderfully; 83% vs. 40% (Harper/Ignatieff "Leadership Score Index." Prattle away, Opposition folks. Your horse has a broken leg, and will surely be put down soon. Sorry, and my political condolences in advance. (Ignore the overwhelming reality if it gives you a reason to jump out of bed in the morning.)


Anti-Pye
said

Millions of dollars from Conservative coffers, millions of dollars from tax coffers all on Conservative advertising propaganda and barely a peep from opposition in the way of advertising and still you can not get enough votes for a majority. Does this not send a message?Canadians are not, have never been and will never be the right wing bastion you think or want. Once the other parties start spending on their own propaganda during an election campaign there is only one direction for the Conservative fortunes in Canada. For those of you who are directionally challenged that way is down. By the time all is said and done we will have close to the same representation we currently have. Conservative will lose a few seats in Quebec, win a few in Ontario and lose a few in BC. NDP will gain a couple in Quebec and BC and the Bloc will be stronger with a few. Iggy is not the leader needed at this time and the Liberals may lose a couple. At the end of the day it will be a break even result.


danR
said

Gaddafi has saved Harper's bacon, and also the fighter jet trinkets the American militar-industrial complex is conning us into buying. But it wouldn't matter anyway. Nobody is electing Ignatieff. He is useless. Amorphous. Meaningless.


G. Prudhomme
said

The Liberals have spent the entire 5 years in opposition pursuing their political agenda to regain power instead of working for Canadians. That's the bottom line. It is time we gave Prime Minister Harper a majority so they can get the job of governing Canada done properly without this never ending daily snipping by these Liberal MP's. Daily snipping is not in the opposition job description. Ignatieff should get out of politics he's no good at it obviously.


ThinkingMan
said

Harper's contempt of parliament mirrors his contempt for mainstream Canadians.

Getting caught at cheatting, and lying to parliament shows that his ethical high-horse is no more than a high-chair.

Canadians can(NOT)endorse this kind of corruption of (OUR) government and tax dollars.


Proud Albertan
said

The political system in Canada is too diluted with multiple parties, dooming us to unending minority governments. The Green party should be ignored outright for the joke that it is, and until the Bloc field candidates in EVERY riding across the country they should not be considered a National party - if they want to screw up Quebec's provincial political scene fine, but the rest of us suffer for it and this nonsense has got to end. Iggy, Jack - if you guys topple this government, and after spending $300,000,000 we're right back where we are today, both of your careers will be finished, and you both ought to be tarred and feathered for it!


Al
said

Any sharp minded Canadian knows that this election, if it happens, will only lead to another minority government whether it be Liberal or Conservative, therefore is another waste of taxpayers money. Leadership of both parties will then be under the gun. Show me some good leadership and I will vote for that party. Harper may be a dictator but as it stands he is the only choice.


Fred (PEI)
said

If Mr. Ignatieff and the Liberals would just try to cooperate a little we could have a productive Parliament. We don't need a wasteful election at this time. There is way too much politicking going on by Mr Ignatieff and his crew. They need to settle down and do some work for Canadians.


Mike in Pembroke
said

We might as well go to the polls as nothing is going to get done in Ottawa with Jack and Iggy fighting everything the government tables. It is now time for the people to speak. I for one am getting very tired of the BS that is showing up in the news all the time about what this MPdid or said or did not do. Lets put it to rest at the polls.


Sam
said

Bring on the election, polls today are inaccurate because pollsters don't phone cell phones the majority of liberals that I know don't have a land line. The neocons like same old same old & are more likely to have land lines. I think were in for a big surprise come election. Canadians will turn out in masses to vote Harper's corrupt dictatorship out.


Al
said

Ah Yes, the Torry scribes are at it again. Trying to scare people into believing that the earth will crumble and the Economy will faulter if there is an election. That's the spin of all disctatorships to justify why they should remain in power and not be distracted by elections processes that can create uncertainty. In the country I remember, its the majority of parlimentariens that rules and not the minority. The people have not voted in support of this party on a single occasion since Bryan Mulroney and I dont think they are about to again. Change is on the way and the time for these fake Torries to admire themselvews is soon coming to an end.Canadians must not sit out this election like they did the past 2 and by their votes must rid our country of the Reform shadows.


Peter in MB
said

Well Michael Ignatieff you have threatened and election every day for the last 2 years you told Steven Harper his time was up lots of times. Well Iggy now is your chance. Fish or cut bait. Because people are really getting sick of your empty treats.


Diane (Toronto)
said

Despite the insanity the Liberals have been creating on Parliament Hill they have managed to drop in the polls. Obviously Canadians do not appreciate the unwarranted bloodthirsty attacks on the government. There is a place to question improper actions but what these Liberals have been doing is holding their own Kangaroo courts allowing slanderous commentary and hanging our government Ministers for anything and everything. Beyond that Winnipeg's Pat Martin has shown himself to be totally rude and obnoxious in committee meetings. If I were a Minister I would walk out than allow myself to be subject to his kind of abuse. Its ignorant.


Gord. Robson ,Nova Scotia
said

I believe that the Conservatives will have a good budget that will include/address some concerns of the opposion parties but...there is only so much that they can do before the costs are too great...Everyone has to take a close look at what is in the budget...and look at the fact that we have come through rough economic times and that the deficit is not as bad as the opposition would have us to believe!..If the budget has the right mix and I believe it will, then you can n o t..blame the Conservatives because they can not give Jack everything he wants..without higher taxes !.......The opposition already have their mind made up to bring the government down no matter what !..Just like they had when they started the committee, they already had their minds made up to find the government in contempt b e f o r e they heard all the facts.


Stu
said

The Liberal Party would be IGGnorant to think they could pull it off right now!


Joe Szentirmay
said

Looks like the pawns of the liberal establishment,the media ,has egg on its face.While the media has tried to malign,without mercy,the Conservatives, the polls show that Prime Minister Harper is way out in front as the favourite to clean house on Parliament Hill.


SpencBC
said

As a Canadian, I have lived long enough to remember the repatriation of the Charter and the passing of the Canadian Bill of rights, both the brain children of the late P E Trudeau. This country changed from those moments in very profound ways. When the policy of multiculturalism was added, we descended into a world of partisan bickering from which we have yet to recover. I know enough of my country's history to know that all parties have contributed. But the Liberals and the NDP of late have come close to ripping the country apart. I think this election will be the most important for us in a long time. If we do not return to Majority government, we will descend into division beyond repair. We better get this right this time. From my point of view the only viable option right now is the CPC. The Libs may be ready in four years but they clearly cannot govern in their present situation. The kangaroo court conducted last week convinced me of that. So, and not with out considerable thought, Harper. [x]


Kamil (Toronto)
said

According to the recent poll and the Liberals are way behind in popularity. Canadians also much prefer the Prime Minister as a leader twice as much as Michael Ignatieff. So what has Michael Ignatieff been doing lately with all his complaining? He has failed to build the Liberal party and in fact is destroying it one issue at a time as he looks weak. We need a government that works and if forced into an election the choice between 1) a coalition 2) another minority 3) majority Conservative the choice is clear for a Conservative majority so we can get this country moving.


John Global
said

The new polls show Ignatieff down and Layton up. The overall party scores show little change in sight after all the election money is spent and the ugly partisan hatred is spewed out across Canada's beautiful landscape. The media keeps fanning the flames but the timing in wrong for the Liberals. A fall election gives everyone a chance to learn to behave and start counting the blessings we have in Canada.


voice of reason
said

Do the CONS have such a short memory that they forget that Harper was the original coalition leader with the Bloc and NDP. Guess it is another convenient fact to forget. Hurry now, get your heads back in the tar sands!


spaz
said

Sorry I missed CTV's Question Period on sunday.The worlds 2 worst trained seals were harping complaints and damnation on Stephen Harper and his Consevatives......I'm speaking of Michael Ignatieff and David McGuinty. Everything was wrong.....but they have supported the Torries for how long now ????I could feel the sadness on David's face......he is so dissapointed all Canadians did not get to feel the pain of his carbon tax.The subject of Libya did not come up.....have they not heard??????.......or have not found a way of blaming the Consevatives on that one.But with NO platform of options to put forward other than complaints.........why trigger an election ??????Perhaps the truth is Michael Ignatieff feels more comfortable preaching at Harvard........All these new things he has had to learn.....dollar bills are coins.......and this whole metric system.....how do you get a gallon of gas in your car?????....OH take the bus you say......he tried that, but wound up at HARPER diesel.......


Jayne (GTA)
said

Michael Ignatieff is being very dishonest when he says ""I honestly don't know what's going to happen this week but I'm ready for anything".... this is the one Liberal above all others who has been nagging and threatening for an election for months now. A day doesn't go by without hearing this noisy tin drum crying wolf about one issue or another. Ignatieff knows exactly what is going on because he has been orchestrating events behind the scenes. Ignatieff is being dishonest when he says he doesn't know what is going on. A 5 year old kid can see through these lies.


Jim-Surrey
said

Ok let's go to the polls! It is a waste of money BUT if we can kick Iggy and the Liberals to the ditch and shut him up and give Mr. Harper a majority then it is worth it.Iggy seems to forget, (oh wait he probably wasn't here) that the last Liberal reign still has left a bad taste in our mouths.bye bye Iggy, you dug your grave FINALLY!!!!


Ignatieff has lost it
said

Canadians don't want an election. Ignatieff and his treasonous coalition partners in crime have been attacking the government anywhere they can to try and muster attention for themselves in the media. No thinking Canadian who loves this country would give a second thought to electing a treasonous coalition to govern our country. Ignatieff has lost all sense of logic in his unbridled lunge for power. Ignatieff has done more to harm the Liberal brand than any leader before him.


David
said

"I honestly don't know what's going to happen this week but I'm ready for anything." Have your dusted off your U.S. passport yet Iggy?


Mr. Not a Pye Chart
said

I look at it this way: 1) IF the government falls on the budget then I believe ALL parties are somewhat to blame. Harper could well of avoided an election on the budget if he were to make a FEW small concessions and none of them would have harmed our economy much except $5 billion to the Bloc. But he is so stubborn with his myway or the highway style of governing that I personally can't blame the opposition for taking a stand. It's a minority,,,,YUO MUST BE FLEXIBLE.2) If the house falls on ethical matters and the opposition hammer away at that,,,,I believe Harper is in big Doo-Doo. He may still pull it off but the knives within his own party will be out quickly, because this is make it or break it time for Harper. Three swings and you're out the door.


John
said

Great, bring it on. The conservatives will win a majority and Canadians will be tired of Harper after 4 more years. If the liberals have any sense, they'll have a real leadership convention and maybe someone like Dominic LeBlanc can spend a few years in Stornaway, preparing, so that the liberals can form a government in 2015. It sure would be good for Canada if we had at least two healthy parties to choose from.


alfred
said

lets see if the coalition will forced that election. with new poll results out today at ctv, i doubt it ! harper is within striking distance of a MAJORITY GOVERNMENT !


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