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Defence Minister Peter MacKay  talks to Canadian troops in Kandahar, Afghanistan, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. (Jonathan Montpetit / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Defence Minister Peter MacKay speaks to reporters in Kandahar on Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. A Canadian soldier is seen on Camp Mirage grounds in Dubai in this undated photo taken from video. Defence Minister Peter MacKay (left) and Chief of Defence Staff Walter Natynczyk (centre) talk to Canadian soldiers in Kandahar, Afghanistan, Sunday, Oct.10, 2010. (Jonathan Montpetit / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Defence Minister Peter MacKay speaks to reporters in Kandahar on Monday, Oct. 11, 2010.

Dispute prompts UAE to rebuff Canadian officials

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Defence Minister Peter MacKay  talks to Canadian troops in Kandahar, Afghanistan, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. (Jonathan Montpetit / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Defence Minister Peter MacKay speaks to reporters in Kandahar on Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. A Canadian soldier is seen on Camp Mirage grounds in Dubai in this undated photo taken from video. Defence Minister Peter MacKay (left) and Chief of Defence Staff Walter Natynczyk (centre) talk to Canadian soldiers in Kandahar, Afghanistan, Sunday, Oct.10, 2010. (Jonathan Montpetit / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Defence Minister Peter MacKay speaks to reporters in Kandahar on Monday, Oct. 11, 2010.

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Date: Mon. Oct. 11 2010 10:04 PM ET

The United Arab Emirates has turned away a plane carrying top officials with the Canadian government and military, a second mark of diplomatic disapproval from the Middle East country over a disagreement about commercial landing rights.

The UAE government closed its airspace to the plane on Monday. It was carrying Defence Minister Peter MacKay, Veterans Affairs Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn and Chief of the Defence Staff, Gen. Walt Natynczyk.

A military source told CTV News the group was on its way from a visit to Afghanistan. They were reportedly bound for Europe.

Earlier in the day, MacKay confirmed that years-long negotiations concerning commercial landing rights in Canada had stalled and Canada would therefore be vacating a once-secret military base near Dubai.

"There have been discussions going on between the minister of foreign affairs and his counterpart. These discussions have been going on for some time," MacKay told reporters in Kandahar, where he was wrapping up a two-day tour.

"At this point we will abide by the wishes of the Emirates, and... we will be leaving the base."

The UAE government had threatened to kick Canada out of Camp Mirage -- a military base located near Dubai -- if Ottawa did not approve new Canadian landing rights for national carriers Emirates and Etihad Airways.

On Sunday, Mohammed Abdullah al Ghafli, the UAE's Canadian ambassador, said the failed negotiations would "undoubtedly affect" bilateral relations between the two countries.

"It is unfortunate that this process has been so protracted and frustrating," said al Ghafli.

But MacKay simply said that Canada was "very grateful for what the United Arab Emirates have allowed us to do within their country."

"They have been very supportive of the Canadian mission, supportive of the mission writ large, and for that we thank them," he said.

The UAE has complained that its two airlines have only six flights a week to Toronto, ferrying passengers from Dubai and Abu Dhabi. And with 27,000 Canadians living in the UAE, al Ghafli has argued there is a need for greater air service between the two countries.

Air Canada, however, has protested expanding the landing rights of UAE carriers, arguing that few people fly from the UAE over to Canada. Air Canada claims that UAE carriers are taking Canadians to other places, while making stopovers in Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

The Associated Press reported that Emirates and Etihad declined to offer comment Monday. Air Canada could not immediately be reached for comment.

Bilateral trade between Canada and the UAE is worth $1.5 billion annually.

Afghan withdrawal

Vacating the base will mean that Ottawa has to find a new supply route to the war-torn country, since Camp Mirage is Canada's sole logistics hub in the region.

It was also expected that Camp Mirage would play a key role in the planned withdrawal of Canadian troops from Afghanistan next year.

But MacKay insists the Canadian Forces are capable of making new arrangements ahead of the July 2011 end date of its Afghan combat mission.

"We'll always act in Canada's best interests and one thing I know about the Canadian forces, they're very adaptable," MacKay said.

"They have alternative plans, they have contingency plans. With that in mind we're going through the various options that are before us right now."

Liberal MP John McCallum said the dispute is "not good for either side," and advised that "in true diplomatic fashion, the Canadian government at the highest levels should approach the UAE to seek a cooling-off period."

For years, Canada has enjoyed an agreement to operate out of Camp Mirage, which is reportedly housed within a larger Emirati military base in a remote part of the desert country.

However, the agreement expired in June. Under its terms, each party could cancel the arrangement with a month's notice.

With files from The Canadian Press

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B. Kelley, Ontario
said

So the UAE is acting like the little kid who takes his ball and goes home because we won't play by his rules. It just shows that no matter how much money those sand boxes have, they're still thinking like its the 15th century. Goodbye

spaz
said

Would it not be the "laugh of the day" if we then had to go and charter WESTJET to get the troops out in time !!!!


Gregoryd
said

Who cares if Air Canada is whining. However since when do we allow a foreign country to extort rights in this country. They will kick us out hmm. Some day they may need our help and I hope we remember. Of course the opposition parties are jumping all over this but then again they would of just caved and given them everything they want even if it is at our expense.


Marg
said

Wow, and this is the government that wants Canada on the security council? Ah, sitting on the UN's security council means you possess diplomatic ability, and while Canada has a proud history of just that, this Harper government has made a bloody mess of it. When has a Canadian ever in our history been denied landing rights in an ally country? NEVER! Congrats Harper, your Clownmanship surpasses all fears and expectations


JMA
said

For once our government did not get intimated by the blackmailing from another country and did put Canadian interests first! I am definitely not a Harper supporter but for once I have to congratulate him on pulling out of that miltary base rather than bending over. Thanks!I see a lot of Air Canada bashing here. I travel extensively world wide for business and Air Canada is not any worse or any better than any other airlines. They have all cut basic services and put extra charges, the US airlines were the first to do so, Air Canada followed a bit later. I travel in total confidence with Air Canada and the staff on board has been pleasant the vast majoprity of the time. I can say the very same thing from the other airlines I travel with regularly as well. So that AC bashing is totally unfounded in my opinion!


George
said

United Arab Emirates closed its airspace Monday to Canadian Defense Minister Peter MacKay and Chief of the Defense Staff Gen. Walt Natynczyk This looks great for our seat on the un security council Not that Canada under the Harper cons is going to get that seat anyway And rightfully so


CraigW
said

Hard to believe that a compromise can not be worked out. The UAE can be a pretty important trading partner along with the U.S, the E.U. and China. Perhaps if we had better negotiators in there who don't rely on the U.S. for determining Canada's foreign policy..


mex4eric
said

Why are we protecting Air Canada? We need more competition. If I want to fly to Nice or to Athen, why not have an option to fly there via Dubai. Can't AC compete on price and service and timeliness?

First they want to put Porter out of business by flying out of Toronto Island, now they cry too much competition from the Emirates. Can't have it both ways.

Why is our conservative government supporting the bungling ex government airline, when it should be supporting Porter and Westjet and any other Canadian airline.


Bob
said

Too bad we can't get a little competition in Canada.Even small countries like Argentina have better and less costly domestic flights !


Jcrew
said

these people help us and canada has already helped out other countries with the same request and we treat thme like this.....there is something wrong here


grasshopper
said

As a child, I was raised to not act out of spite. The UAE leaders are acting out of spite on this issue. A decision that is clearly based on consideration of national economic implications (landing rights) should not guide a decision to cut off a supply route to Canadian soldiers who have been trying to make this world a better place. Shame on you.. I am sure your parent(s) raised you better than that.


JR from Pointe Claire
said

Time to GET RID of MCKAY and the rest of the slugs running our country!!! Next thing you know - they will not be allowed in the US!


Cam
said

This Mackay is a "have baked nut loaf". Why in heaven's name would he refuse to allow the Emirates Air Line to have landing rights anyways? Just to protect the 3rd rate, expensive Air Canada who the Cons sold off to the Americans a long time ago? This man and the rest of Harper's clan are absolutely the most undeserving of all governments in the last 80 years. It is time we had an election.How can this man with a nose like a Grey Hound Bus even admit to this? Mackay, please go get a life somewhere else and stop your meddling.


Scott_G
said

No skin off my nose.
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You have to want the UAE's friendship to be sad about this breakdown.
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It just means we have to use a different Airport. Big deal.
Their loss of business.
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I think it has nothing to do with Transportation, I think the States is up to causing trouble telling the UAE to do this cause we are leaving Afghanistan. Then it will truly be an "American War" rather than a Joint mission.


David in Dartmouth
said

Air Cattle Car... I mean Air Canada..... whats the matter....they don't like competition...I will bet Emirates Air doesn't lose the customers bagge....and more importantly....they actuall value their customers..... Tooo much POLITICAL INTERFERANCE with our military personnel....STOP THE MICROMANAGEMENT!!!! Peter MacKay..!!


J. Bohler
said

Why hasn't UAE been allowed these rights in the first place? Canada deserves the treatment they are getting, they are being completely unfair and if this was a free economy Air Canada would have been forced to deal with the competition like a real company does. Pathetic.


Richard L. Provencher
said

I wish any blogger who does not stand up for their country go live in another for a couple of years, then return with this new knowledge. Only then will they realize how great a country Canada is.


rank and file
said

I remember sharing a drink with an AC pilot (on vacation) once who explained to me that one difficulty for AC is that they are mandated to have something like 5 flights to Thunder Bay every day, and who knows where else. If the government doesn't protect them, then they will fold, and fully private airline will waste the money servicing all of Canada's smaller communities. So the problem is not as simple as it sounds.

That said, the UAE is taking the wrong tact here as it only makes them look like the spoiled child.


Ca Ching
said

It's simple. Just make anyone coming to Canada from UAE get a ticket on VIA Rail. Drop 'em from all Canadian Airports.


SunCoaster
said

I thought this Government was all for free enterprise. This is the same kind of Government control that keeps our cellphone cost and internet cost the highest and worst service in the developed world.

These guys need to quit looking after their corporate buddies and start paying attention to the population that votes for them.

I suspect they all fly AC and pay full cost when they travel, maybe by encouraging competition they could bring the cost down and the service up. This would inturn save the taxpayer some much needed tax dollars.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Air Canada remains an aviation stink bomb. I'll celebrate the day that it's allowed to die a natural, free-market death, for that day will mark the birth of a real consumer-oriented airline industry in this country, where cockeyed federal regulations don't inhibit due service. Oh, Canada. (Find another airport to land at, boys. The UAE "airspace controllers" must have laughed and high-fived each other.)


MHB
said

Emirates is one of the most friendly countries in the middle east towards the West. One wonders what the Cons, who are known for their attitude towards Canadians of middle eastern origin, did to offend the officials in this hospitable and welcoming country!


John Bain
said

So it begins. It seems that AC does not what more competition. Most of the cabin crew are extremely rude to the customers. I have flown with Emirates a number of times and they are far far superior to AC. The UAE will now start giving all personnel with a Cdn Passport a hard time. I now feel for the 30,000 or so who work in the UAE and travel Emirates instead of AC. Who wants a 23 hour trip through Europe, oh sorry forgot we can travel with an AC partner, not. When we can have a 14 hour trip on one of the best airlines in the world.


JP in North Saanich
said

Another Haper and Conservative SCREW UP They are on a run - sad thing is once an election is call - the same people who voted for them last time will do it again-Wake up people- Harper is a YES man and NOT a leader-Get rid of him so we can again STAND TALL as CANADIANS.


Ian
said

Why is everyone protecting foreign airlines in their posts. I'd bet my paycheque that if we had bent to their demands, you same people would say that Harper is selling out Air Canada. It proves my point that if you are a Conservative in this country you can't catch a break no matter what.


Amar
said

Why are we wasting Canadian tax payer money policing the middle east??? I say pull out of the region ASAP.


Jackie Barrett
said

If United Arab Emirates and its Sheikhs wants to play diplomatic hardball with a future superpower, being Canada, then Canada has to play diplomatic hardball as well.For starters, Canada should expel all UAE diplomats in Canada, and ban its Sheikhs from entering Canadian soil.Furthermore, Canada should impose a hefty trade and diplomatic embargoes against the United Arab Emirates for bullying and threatening. UAE citizens will be banned from Canada as well.Stephen Harper and Peter MacKay, if they have any diplomatic backbone whatsoever, stand up for Canada, stand up for Canadian values, don't let tiny nations like United Arab Emirates bully us around and fight back diplomatically.


Diver71
said

Why is it that Air Canada is now dictating Canadian Government policy? Air Canada says that not enough people fly to/from a certain destination, so now Canada is no longer welcome there?If Air Canada was a respected, viable business model, then perhaps their views could be seen as good advice. But, seeing that they are as organized as a bunch of monkies in a poop fight, the Canadian Government should take a better look at where the advice is coming from.Sadly, this move makes all of us look silly in the eyes of the world.


Rodger in Calgary
said

So, just a quick poll here: Who are the bigger whiners in this situation? Air Canada or the UAE?To me it sounds like this: "Wah, we don't want anyone else to fly planes to our country, we might lose more money than we already do.""Wah, fine then, we won't fly any planes to your country and you're not allowed to fly planes to our country either. And get out and don't come back."Give me a break.


Gareth Hitchings
said

This is just rank protectionism - by a government that only a few months ago called protectionism the greatest threat to the world economy. The Canadian tax-payer is going to be on the hook for the costs of moving a military base purely to save Air Canada from some much needed competition. Just the latest idiotic waste of money from the Government that gave us the billion dollar weekend and the biggest deficit in history.


katwar
said

UAE needs to follow the same process as all airlines and does not get to just skip ahead because our military is in their country at their welcoming at first. We should not be held for ransom and the laws and regulations are made not for the UAE to manipulate for their purposes because they feel they should get the airspace. They need to go through the same process as all airlines and not try to blackmail the Canadian government.


Chris in Kingston
said

The UAE now knows that the CF will not be bullied with politics. We will find another base, and I bet it will have better weather. Dubai's a nice place to visit for a day or two, but I'd never ever live there. Oil will only carry you so far in this world.

ladybear
said

So now Air Canada gets to influence our foreign policy and military operations? Give the choice between flying Air Canada and an airline run by the Emirates, I would shoose the latter, in fact, in our family no one ever flies Air Canada unless there is absolutely no other option to getting where we need to go in the time we have to travel.


Kim
said

I guess the UAE has shown its true colours.


Allan Eizinas
said

The current Canadian federal government agrees with Air Canada and will not allow additional flights from the UAE. Hey, I thought that competition was a good thing for the consumer? The UAE has just announced that Canada has 30 days to “get out of town”. Australia has negotiated addition flights with the UAE and continues to use this base. Australia plans to start leaving Afghanistan in 2012. The Dutch will be leaving this August. Canada is preparing to leave Afghanistan. With troops and support personnel in the many thousands it is going to be a lot more dangerous and cost us a lot more money to get all of our people, support and equipment out of Afghanistan if we do not have this base in the UAE. To allow more flights to and from Dubai (like Australia has already done) would cost the airlines money. To deny more commercial flights into Canada and have the UAE deny Canada access to Camp Mirage is going to cost the Canadian taxpayer a whole lot of money and possibly additional casualties. I would rather that it costs the airlines than the taxpayer. By the way, the UAE is Canada's largest trade partner in the Middle East and North Africa with bilateral trade of over $1.5 billion yearly.


Chris
said

I flew Emirates... it appears that whiny Air Canada is jealous that an economy class passenger is treated like a first class passenger. Air Canada once again proves to Canadians that its airline SUCKS!!!!


jjaycee
said

Being as Air Canada only stayed afloat because the Tax payers kept them solvent and better, more viable carriers went under because of the subsidy I am really surprised that this Government would let them call the shots here. I thought we had an "open skies" policy.


DP
said

Makes you wonder who really determines our country's foreign policy: Foreign Minister or Air Canada.


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