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CTV National News: Richard Madan on rising rates
Despite the federal government's claims that Canada escaped the economic recession with minor scars, a new report is suggesting many Canadians are feeling a financial pinch with rising mortgage rates, which has put many new homeowners in debt and the amount of foreclosures across Canada on the rise.
CTV News Channel: Jim Murphy, CAAMP
The president of Canadian Association of Accredited Mortgage Professionals in Toronto says that even though home owners are starting to feel the pinch that most home owners in Canada have equity in their homes due to stipulations put in place.
CTV News Channel: BNN's Pamela Ritchie explains
A new report is suggesting debt has skyrocketed in Canada in the last year due to a rush to take advantage of low mortgage rates and the OECD is warning many Canadians could feel the pinch as rates begin to creep back up.
Canada AM: Peter Jarrett, author
The author of the report for the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development discusses the Canadian economy. He says Canadians continue to borrow more money than usual, so households will continue to encounter financial difficulties.

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Date: Mon. Sep. 13 2010 10:07 PM ET

Canadians put themselves in a vulnerable financial position because they took advantage of low interest rates during the recession -- and bit off more than they could chew.

That's the conclusion of a new survey of Canada's economy from the Paris-based Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Debt skyrocketed in Canada over the past year as Canadians rushed to take advantage of the low mortgage rates brought in to help fuel the economic recovery, the OECD says.

Now, as rates begin to creep back up, Canadians are feeling the pinch. The report said about 375,000 homeowners are currently being forced to cut spending in other areas in order to pay their mortgages.

Canada Mortgage and Housing's annual report also paints a grim picture: Last year, more than a billion dollars' worth of properties were seized or about to be seized. That's three times higher than the year before -- and four times higher than forecast.

"It surprised me that we saw the underestimation we saw in the rise in foreclosures," Adrienne Warren, senior economist with Scotiabank, told CTV News.

If mortgage rates were to climb to 5.25 per cent this year, the OECD said, citing the Canadian Association of Mortgage Professionals, a whopping 475,000 additional homeowners would have to cut back on their spending in order to keep up with their mortgage debt. 

"The rebound in the housing market has been key to Canada's recovery from the recession," the OECD report said. "But it has left some facing a toxic combination of hefty debts and rising interest rates as the Bank of Canada pulls back from the emergency low rates used to juice the economy back to life."

The report warns that Canadians are vulnerable to "any future adverse shocks" in interest rates and recommended the federal government take steps to deter "marginal" buyers from the entering the market.

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty pointed out Monday the federal government has twice tightened mortgage lending rules, once in 2008 and again this year, which has helped keep some high-risk homebuyers out of the housing market.

But he said Canadians must also take steps to ensure they can afford the homes they are purchasing, especially when rates go up.

"Canadians need to remember that mortgage rates are at one per cent with the Bank of Canada, they're not likely to go lower over time, and people have to be prepared to handle their mortgages when interest rates go up over time," Flaherty told CTV's Power Play.

"So it's something that all Canadians who have residential mortgages need to think abut when they make decisions about the amount of risk they are prepared to take in their lives."

Essentially, the report said, the overpriced housing market needs to cool off before more buyers are allowed to enter.

Though the report takes a somewhat dire-sounding tone, OECD Senior Economist Peter Jarrett said it is meant to be cautionary.

"Right now it should be emphasized that delinquency rates remain very, very modest and this is all in anticipation of what might be coming down the pipe in a year or two," Jarrett told CTV's Canada AM on Monday.

Cost-cutting needed in health care spending

The OECD report also looked at Canada's health care spending, warning that a desperate clamp-down is needed.

The federal government along with its provincial counterparts needs to rein in spending or suffer the consequences of expanding deficits due to Canada's aging population, the OECD said.

Current long wait times and a shortage of doctors are indicators of the trouble to come unless action is taken, the report said.

Those problems will only increase along with the age of the population, and sacrifices will have to be made in other areas in order to keep up, the report warns.

Social services could be cut, or taxes increased, in order to cover the cost, the OECD warns.

"The growth of public health spending must be reduced from an annual rate of about 8 per cent seen over the last decade toward the trend rate of growth of nominal income in coming years (estimated to be less than 4 per cent per year), the only alternative being to squeeze other public spending or to raise taxes or user charges," the OECD said.

With a report by CTV's Richard Madan

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Jim Currie
said

Maybe we need to analyse our true health costs. I recall a specialist from an Indian hospital saying that , for example, used equipment such as an MRI on a 24 hour basis, we only use ours for about a third of the time. The reason could be the extremely fat contracts acquired by the unions, not the basic salaries but all the extras if somebody works at different hours. Let us introduce regular shifts at regular salaries, and also cut back the almost obscene administrative costs.


Greg
said

Within the next year or two we are going to see a housing crash here very similar to the one in the states.


Pat - Hotmail
said

Here's a great cost cutting idea... STOP GIVING FREE HEALTH CARE to every Tom Dick or Henry who lands on our shores... and keep helping the people who paid into this for years..!! I know of a lady who came from Portugal, stayed with her daughter for three months, received a FREE heart surgery and went back to Portugal.. How fair is that???


Lizzie
said

whoa hold on. Maybe if we stop giving free medical service to every immigrant who lands here without ever contributing to the plan we can save millions of dollars. What is wrong with you people we are bring them over by the illegal boar load and giving them everything. What about our own citizens especially the seniors. Give it up.


Doug
said

OECD says we will have to cut social services or hike taxes?

Same old crap!

I say cut social services.

While we are at it, we need to wake up to the fact that we cannot provide free health care to the entire world.










Anne Fox
said

The housing bubble in Alberta is about to bust. Carney at the Bank Of Canada is a former Goldman Sax employee who would have been facing Congress in the United States if he had stayed there instead of coming to Canada. The issue is upcoming with a new program in place which means that the prime lending rate formerly keyed to inflation will now be open to interpretation by the Bank. The former bill runs out this year. Hold on to your hats the bust is going to create infaltionary rates and markets are going to be out of control while this former Goldman Saches employee savages our banking system. Profits for the big banks have been out of control over this real estate bonnanza. The cost of living will be a matter of the wage gap incredible since you will have to be in the oil patch to survive it. Already there were issues with housing in Alberta and the money intended to make more housing available has been wasted on building up capital losses for charity which is unequiped to face the latest financial damage intended for us by the Torys ideological campaign against our mixed economy. This is going to be as if it were the eighties all over again. As far as the health spending. As soon as we stop throwing money in the garbage by setting up businesses which are doomed to failure and training assistants for all of the nurses and doctors the Klein and Harris governments ran out of Canada we can have some proper care for our seniors instead of scalding them to death in Edmonton and feeding them so many meds that they die of adverse drug effects our new number one killer. Big Pharma does not need our money.


Anne Gillis
said

I was lucky enough to have won the lottery back in 2003 of $250,000 dollars.Thank-heavens,I was smart with my money and bought a condominium MORTGAGE FREE! Thank-God,I don't have to worry about mortgage rates going up,but for people who have to pay...the bank rate is absolutely redicules!The banks make too much money as it is!The government should give the banks a break,for the banks to give their clients a break!Dosn't this make sense?


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ Steve: Just to bring you up to speed, there was/is this severe global economic recession, and with the forceful encouragement of the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc, the Conservatives dedicated tens of billions of dollars to a national economic stimulus program of highly questionable utility. Oh, and the Liberal "surplus" you refer to was achieved largely through Paul Martin's creative accounting methods (ie. rerouting federal tax funds, depriving our military, siphoning EI, manipulating provincial transfers, and enjoying GST revenue after promising to get rid of the tax altogether). Hope this informs and aids your understanding, Steve.


Frank Buchan
said

To RDM: If you really believe single mothers run out and get knocked up to collect welfare, you need to step out into the real world. There is nothing elegant about raising a kid alone, or being on welfare. Yes, the system is abused, but painting all with a single brush is foolishness.To all blaming the Conservatives for our health Care problems: The problems were coming down the pipe for 30 years. They extend from serious lack of fiscal control, and rampant abuse of the system by most of the population, who view our system as a catchall rather than a fall back. We also have too many poor administration layers in the system.To those suggesting the interest rate issue isn't serious: The financial systems we have will make it serious, eventually. It's the ebb and flow of economics, and the real problem is a lack of control over regulation of banks. When they were deposit-based institutions, we were just fine; they have become gamblers, in many cases, and that is where the real risk lies.


Theo
said

I suggest Harper not throw billions on hosting unnecessary G-20 meetings instead of cutting back on healthcare. He'll spare no expense on his ego and his "special interest" friends, no doubt.


WorkingHard
said

Very well said, Happy Canadian. Considering how Canada fared comparatively economically during this financial regulatory world brain childs economic debacle, I do believe we will always be far better off with a made in Canada solution. Methinks they're wanting. Besides, the World Country Club fees are getting steep and multiplying in their shell game efforts to frantically make up the shortfall.


Anita
said

Because I am a senior citizen and have paid for OHIP since it's inception, I don't believe my tax dollars should Subsidize immigrants until they have paid into OHIP for at least 10 years themselves.Canada is letting people immigrate who have diabetes and other diseases that cost a lot to maintain, and yet these people have never paid into OHIP. We also pay for other elderly people who come from other countries, who have never paid into OHIP either. We need OHIP more than ever with the baby boom coming to a head. It is not fair that OHIP is so drained with all the free treatment being given to someone who has never contributed.


KG, AB
said

There should be class action law filed against the major banks from the new home owners in the last 3 years in AB. Bank profits in the billions and falsely changing market. Banks approve first time buyers with less than $70k income for $300k plus morgage.


Dennis L. Krahn
said

All foxes have fleas; this is the law of nature. On the other hand if a fox becomes ill he or she cannot support their quota of fleas and they will die. In closing, Canada has too many fleas.


allan
said

I dont take the OECD very seriously with their PHD's in gloom and doom. A think tank we could do without.


Dan Grant
said

But HarperCon spending one billion dollars on security is a good use of money.

Repeat: one billion dollars.

That is not the cost of the G8/G20 summit.

That is the cost to provide "security" only.

How much did HarperCon waste on G8/G20? If the security alone was one billion dollars it is safe to say the that millions and millions and millions more money was wasted.

Screw you Grandpa, HarperCon can't stop spending money on dumb things.




zalith
said

Has anybody taken a look at the difference between what a healthcare worker makes and what most other professions make? This is with the exception of doctors. There are some Nursing programs out there that are 6-month to 2-years and they make more than most 4-year university programs. Take a look at some of my friends who are Engineers, Business Managers, and Lawyers all making less than most of these short programs. This is also taken experience into account because all of these short programs have a very high starting salary. I know I am going to hear alot of flac about this but. To get costs
under control these salary have to come back to normal if we want to see the over spending stop. That or raise taxes.


tony
said

It has been my experience to hire really dumb doctors. I was having a stroke, and the doctor I saw told me it was tendinitis take a couple of advil and take it easy. The fact that I didn't die was not due to the doctor or health care, I guess it just wasn't my time to go! Thank God. The only reason you are hearing this from me is I survived. This doctor has never apologized to me, or had his license taken away is what's wrong with health care.


Jack R
said

So basically, it's the Americans complaining that we didn't get soaked in their mortgage scheme, and lobbyists from the yankee medical established trying to foist their brand of medicine on us. AGAIN. Let's review. People are living longer, because they're healthier. The system is going to get cheaper, not more expensive (as they would have us believe). People take better care of themselves now than they did. And you're greedy banks deserved to go under for giving 1/2 million dollar loans to people whose sole job was greeter at Wal-Mart. Stop trying to put another wedge into my country you scuzzy american businessman.


Lorne C Marshall
said

Somebody wrote "nothing ain't worth nothing if it's free. We have to put a value on Health Care.Give the people of Canada a choice to subscribe of go the pay per visit route. ER should accepy patients anytime at no charge. Seniors should pay a subscription fee as well.


Roy
said

The healthcare system cannot be viewed in isolation. Gov't is too large & growing faster than the economy. An unsustainable path!! We need less gov't, less taxation (both corporate & individual) and increased individual accountablility. Any increase in tax rates under any guise such as user fees should be required to be approved by voter referendum!!


Tim
said

There shouldn't be a problem with our health care, were a rich country Harper has been giving millions of our tax dollars to other countries so we must be doing fine. Harper recently announced we have so much money, the federal government is going to use some of that extra cash to build a hockey arena & super prisons for unreported crimes. Steven said you won't recognize Canada when I'm done. My guess is prof pye is paid by the conservative government to comment on this page.


Cinseault
said

In follow-up to Al's comment, I would much rather see runs to the Dr office than calls to 911 EMS for something frivilous, that could be resolved by a bandaid, kaopectate or even cold/flu meds...
The number of Paramedic units that are dispatched for a minor boo boo is disgraceful.


Lorne C. Marshall
said

Somebody wrote" Nothing ain't worth nothin' if it is free" We, as citizens, (including Seniors) should have the option of paying an annual fee to Medicare or opt to go on a per visit charge.ER patients should never be turned away.


Steve
said

The government needs to cut it's spending, the fake lake Gee nothing happened meeting was a huge waste, another 16 billion for fighter jets that we don't need. Instead of Harper making government smaller, he planned to hire 360000 government employees. A few months back Harper announced he was paying conservatives to comment on these news blogs. Cutting the GST was another huge loss of revenue to the government. As far as I can tell Harper is well on his way to bankrupting Canada. Look at all the appointments to the senate, that costs money. Canadians pay some of the highest taxes in the world, with the liberals in power we had a surplus, Harper is destroying our great nation.


island girl
said

Way too many managers in health care. Too much duplication across health authorites. Waaay too many paper-pushers.


jack
said

why is it this is still a problem, there are many countries that have smaller budjets than ours and there healthcare is completely universal. how is it that france and england can have a better a better health system then ours?


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Simply another needed dose of reality for the blissfully ignorant Canadians who enjoy living in denial. Our low-ranking public healthcare system is a utopian socialistic mess that gobbles tax money at an alarming rate while yielding only mediocre service. User fees and greater private-sector involvement are inevitable. As for the potential issues surrounding mortgage debt, this information shouldn't surprise anyone, as these instruments have been "abused" by many, just like credit cards. Expecting everybody to have a big pot of "lifestyle" money at the end of each month, after making a mortgage payment and flipping for other essentials, isn't realistic in these economic times. And thanks, OECD, for pointing out the pathetic, debt-plunging job the Liberal McGuinty government has been doing in Ontario. We're aware of that, too.


Gord
said

Why don't we place a tax on fast food that would go to health care? All this poor stuff people are eating has caused some of the health issues we are facing today. I eat lots of fruits, vegetables, beans, grains and rice. I stay away from high fat cholesterol foods and juice every day to avoid the flu. And it works. No flu shot, money saved. I also exercise. Only by making personal changes will we avoid visits to the Doctor and hospital. Get on board Canada you don't need to be sick. I am 67 and take no medications.


The Truth
said

As usual our "help the world" Politicions and other orginizations eg. OECD, with their attitude are depleting ALL our retirement resorces.
re Ray and reduce from 10 to 3 years for OAP wait, for those that never paid in a penny.
Wake up Canada you are be "SOLD OUT" as a future senior, with no pention or medical, who's going to look after you?????.


Karen
said

To cut the costs of Health Care, if they really wanted to, they could save millions by cutting there management staff in 1/2. At one time in our Country it worked. Now it seems they hire 3 to 1 of the management of what they used to. Until the management problem is fixed the health care will always be out of control. As you see they are the ones who cut jobs. There's are never cut, just more added. If they are not effective in there job they are moved to another position. Not let go. I believe it is a serious problem. If you think about it, they have nothing to do with "the client" ,a new phrase for patient, for one on one care they only know how the patient is looked after on paper. Really Canada does the health care system need 3 or more management doing basically the same job for over $100,000/ yr. Hopefully all governments take note instead of continually hiding there heads on this one.


spaz
said

The esteemed report singles out health care, but I am quite shure we can add education and government to the list of "stones" around the neck of taxpayers.
When a hospital closes beds to save operating expenses.....no one ever hears of that same hospital closing a proportional number in "administration" as well.
Our education system has led to every single board being able to create it's own little kingdom, with the power to dictate tax levies.

Mike Harris had the right idea.


silvat
said

I know my comment is not going to be vry popular....
First of all stop handing out health cards to anyone who has not contributed to the economy of this country.....
Second have strict controls on hospitals administrations and related organizations ( see e-health) and their spending
Third curb ridiculous demands by unions for their members....
I think I just saved about 25% of all healthcare costs....


LorraineH
said

I don't see 1 sentance in this article that deals with bureaucracy. Before they start charging users, many of whom are senior citizens on a fixed income or low income people, I would like to see the inefficiencies in Medicare dealt with. How many people work in just administrating the Medicare System? What is the payroll? Is there an overlap between Federal and Provincial control? When dealing with public health, start at the top with the paper pushers and work down to the public. As for rushing to the doctor with every little sneeze, just who is this organization to decide how sick a person needs to be in order to see a doctor. Will they issue a list of symptoms as to when you should seek medical help. Cold - no doctor; spreads to the Chest - not yet; wracking chest cough, sneezing, yellow phlegm - now you can go because it is probably pneumonia. Bring in outside non-medical consultants to review number of people who administer the system, how it is administered and make necessary changes to correct inefficiencies then talk to me about user fees. It is a fact of life that there are abusers of every system - don't penalize everyone for abusers.


Norm in Ontario
said

"Ottawa should rein in health care spending or continuing deficits because of aging population"Let's send another 100 million to some other 3rd world country, cause soon when we are poverty stricken, you know, Haiti and Pakistan will send us millions to help.


Joseph Chiasson
said

On the whole, there probably isn't a solution to medical costs that will work at all. Systems run from complete coverage by government to the "devil take hindmost" system in the States to no coverage at all. No money will be saved, really. Since, through taxes, we're already paying for health care expenses, lowering government coverage really only means we'll be paying more individually, or we simply won't see a doctor when we need to.It's like one of the street performers moving a pea around under a cup - it's a juggling game. You may have three cups, but you only have one pea. If it's not under one cup it's under another. But it's still only one pea. And if a government, of any stripe, tells you it's saving money look real hard at where the savings are being spent. Because you're taxes haven't come down, even when costs overall have remained unchanged.


JD
said

As others have mentioned we collect taxes on everything but are used for other things. Taxes on cigarettes for health, taxes on gas for transportation, Ontario health tax for health where does this money go to.We cut down on having new doctors, didn't anybody realize that the baby boomers were going to get old one day?It costs more for the government to do things than it does in the private sector does. The problem is not the money only, it is also how we manage the way we spend it


Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
said

Where do the cash strapped seniors come up with the money for these fees ? Canada Pension ,OAS and GIS income at the end of the month does not leave money for fees !Hospitals waste money ! Each province should have a central purchasing for hospital supplies (SPD), this would be much cheaper as the greater volume bought the cheaper the price. Laundry is another area where savings could be made. You do not have to look far to see where savings can be made.


William (Ottawa)
said

Our health care system is woefully inefficient, slow and costly. Why do the provinces not get together and have medical suppliers bid for procurement instead of allowing the provinces (and us taxpayers) to get hosed by overpriced equipment and supplies and drugs? Canada needs somebody to come along and clean it up rather than always throwing more dollars at a system which needs to be reworked to keep up with the times. This isn't rocket science people.


Douglas G, Corkum
said

We in Canada have to stop giving our Money away to other countries and fix up our own problems; Highways & Health system for a start


shane
said

maybe the house can reduce the subsidies they give out for political pamphlets they mail out on almost a daily basis. pure wast of money that 90% of people throw right into the garabge. Get rid of that and those signs on government developments that remind us "given by King Harper" to the people of canada. Put that wasted money into healthcare and not only save people but a few trees too.


ANDY
said

We have to start controlling the
amount of people that work for the administration of the healthcare,many are paid double the amount the average person makes,CEO of the hospitals and all the perks they are getting.We got slapped with a heathcare fee
6 years ago to the tune of $900.00
a year,we are still being charged a percentige on our yearly tax forms,this is a liberal tax grab like so many more they have put to us in Ontario.Nt to forget the MAJOR $ 1.000.000,00 loss by paying large amounts to trying to change the system.leave the little guy alone.
Andy


Robt. D. Miles
said

Not $50 to visit your GP , the actual cost in 2009 was $24.50. Emerg was $115 per visit. Too many ppl go , e.g. before they take over the counter medication, to get rid of the flu , they just show up at the Emerg. $115 to check in, then any requested test the attending GP request, the average Visit to the Emerg, here in Ptbo, is costing between $300 to $500. Might want to slow down the Whim visits, before we have nothing!


CYL
said

We are already paying enough thru our taxes, but I do not mind paying a fee for certain services. However, I do object to the fact that the government is GIVING AWAY our health benefits, which is free to those who have never paid into the system. The health card needs to be stop being a 'free for all' to all who arrive here for just a few weeks. STOP GIVING AWAY WHAT WE WORK SO HARD FOR.


Wayne
said

HAS EVERYONE GONE STUPID:A lot of people just don't have the money to be paying extra fees.Nowadays it seems everyone is getting very MONEY GOUGING CREATIVE.There's an extra fee for this and an extra fee for that.We are extra feeeeeeeeed to death.HOW THE HELL DO YOU PAY ALL THESE EXTRA FEES WHEN US RETIRED AND HAVE NO INCOME (15,000 PER YEAR) PAY ALL THESE EXTRA FEES.I AM NEARLY ON THE STREET NOW.IT SURE IS EASY TO TALK BIG TALK WHEN YOUR DOING WELL AND YOU FORGET ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE NOT.


Robt. Dale Miles
said

Wait just a Dang minute !!! My parent's generation set up our health Plan in the 1960's, for each couple to have 4 children, 2 to sustain the system, the other 2 to secure the futher. This did not include CPP Disabilities, or unsupported Immigrants. You just have to follow the Format Rule's that were designed for this Program to stay in place. Many , single mother's, having kid's, & don't even have a father on the Birth Certificate, then live off of Social Assistance. I went to high school with many that done it this way, while I put 37 years in, to retire from my employer, with full Pension, their Plan, was find a guy they wanted to have Kid's with, then get Rid of him, do what they wanted. RDM


Joyce
said

Sure there are those who want the 2-tier system. They are those with money. Low income Canadians will be left in the lurch. Guess we have to vote NDP if we want to avoid this fiasco.


Rocky
said

We have been taxed to death, we already pay extra for healthcare. The government needs to go back to the old way of using the tax money for what it is collected for. As it is now they collect taxes for various reasons, and the use the money for things which it was not collected for. Stop "robbing Peter to pay Paul! We are entitled to healthcare that we don't get now, why the hell should we pay extra over again?


Happy Canadian
said

Yep, another outside commenter on Canadian Health Care. From an Economical Developement think tank. Another corporate entity annoyed they can;'t make money off it or another country that despises Canada's Health Care.Suggesting User pays, already happening. In Ont we pay an annual health care tax (fee), on top of our rather high income tax. We pay.Canada did create their own issues on # of doctors by restricting medical school access several years ago, but are recovering.Hospitals are being held accountable for their budgets, and it is based upon service delivery too.Their is plenty of private money in our health care, most of the hospital expansions are fund-raise efforts.Get your facts togeather, and get out of the old-boys club and brandy snifters and see what is actually happening.


Al
said

I think the biggest problem are people that run to the doctor every time they get a runny nose or a little boo boo. I say, give everyone 4 free visits, after that charge them $20 for each visit. It'll just make everyone think about wether they actually NEED to go to the doctor. $20 isn't too much.


Brian Hillier, Corner Brook, NL
said

Do we really have to rely on the OECD to point out the obvious? Canada's spending on health care and the bureaucracy is unsustainable and the sooner our inept politicians come to grips with this the less painful the remedy will be.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

I have a simple, practical solution: let the waiting time for medical procedures exceed the patient's life expectancy without them. The problem solved... Actually, I think we're nearly there now.


JMacD
said

Romanow- in his report (p.21)said this about fees-I challenged those advocating radical solutions for reforming healthcare – user fees, medical savings accounts, de-listing services, greater privatization, a parallel private system – to come forward with evidence that these approaches would improve and strengthen our health care system. The evidence has not been forthcoming. I have also carefully explored the experiences of other jurisdictions with co-payment models and with public-private partnerships, and have found these lacking. There is no evidence these solutions will deliver better or cheaper care, or improve access (except, perhaps, for those who can afford to pay for care out of their own pockets)-the principles on which these solutions rest cannot be reconciled with the values at the heart of medicare or with the tenets of the Canada Health Act that Canadians overwhelmingly support.- Canadians should read and ensure this report is acted on- it represents our views http://publications.gc.ca/pub?id=237274&sl=0


Whiteknight777
said

I guess that this organization does not know that in Ontario we do pay a fee, though it is done at the end of the tax year.


Rick from Saint John
said

Here's a fair fee schedule:1) $20 for xrays2) $50 for CT Scan, with $20 follow up if MRI recommended by radiologist3) $100 deductible per household to go to G.P. every year that is subsidized by government, so roughly $20-25 per visit (as G.P.s get close to $50 per patient visit?)Most of my initial treatment times as a physiotherapist is spent educating the public WHY they don't need these scans at every whim..for the very reason of this article - it clogs the system down and people just don't understand the costs. I would argue physicians know this as well but since they are always swamped they just don't care anymore and if it shuts the google doctored patient up why not?


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