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Study favours full-day classes for 4 and 5 year olds

The McGuinty government has said it sees all-day kindergarten as a critical building block for the coming knowledge economy. The McGuinty government has said it sees all-day kindergarten as a critical building block for the coming knowledge economy.
The McGuinty government has said it sees all-day kindergarten as a critical building block for the coming knowledge economy.

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Date: Monday Aug. 30, 2010 8:52 AM ET

A new study says that Ontario's decision to extend kindergarten from half- to full-school days will provide a boost to the provincial economy as well as the education system.

A study released Monday by the Centre for Spatial Economics says funding full-day schooling for four- and five-year-olds, when coupled with extended child-care options, provides a greater economic benefit than any other government spending.

The study, commissioned by the Atkinson Centre for Society and Child Development at the University of Toronto, says every $1 million spent on early learning and childcare creates 29.3 jobs – a third more than created by $1 million spent on roads and infrastructure.

Every $1 million spent on building or renovating classrooms creates 20.1 jobs, according to the study.

It also found that every $1 invested in early learning would generate $2.42 in benefits for the province through increased earnings, improved health and reduced social costs.

The study estimated that every dollar invested in early learning and child care increases the provincial GDP by $2.02.

In estimating the short- and long-term returns of the program, the authors looked at economic gains from associated education and construction jobs, increased freedom for parents to hold jobs and pursue further training, and reduced school drop-out rates.

But the authors of the report warned these benefits will be much less if before- and after-school programs are not offered as well as full-day kindergarten and junior kindergarten.

Ontario's early-learning adviser, Charles Pascal, recommended such programs but the provincial government opted to leave it up to individual school boards whether or not to offer extended-day programs that will be paid for by parents.

As a result, few schools in Ontario will be offering extended-day programs when the first phase of full-day kindergarten begins next month for 35,000 children in about 600 schools.

Robert Fairholm, a partner at the Centre for Spatial Economics and one of the authors of the report, said the extended-day and year-round childcare are needed because children benefit from fewer transitions during the school day, and because the program would make parents' working schedules easier.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty has said he is committed to the full program recommended by Pascal, but focused on the school-day portion of the initiative first because of the province's faltering economy.

Pascal called for an integrated system of early learning for children from conception to age 12 and recommended spending up to $1 billion a year on extending kindergarten to a full day for the province's 250,000 4- and 5-year-olds and another $1.7 billion to upgrade classrooms.

McGuinty however committed only $500 million over the next two years, with the expectation that all schools would offer full-day kindergarten by 2015.

School boards say they aren't offering the before- and after-school option because fees of up to $30 a day have made parents reluctant to sign up.

The report looked at earlier studies of the impact of child care on parents' ability to work and on the social, educational and health benefits for children in high quality child care programs.

It is not clear if the lack of extended-day, full-year programs this year is just growing pains or a sign the McGuinty government has switched course in the face of tough economic times, the report says.

If the latter is true, then the government is turning its back on "probably one of the most effective economic stimulus programs it could implement," Fairholm said.

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Cindy in Calgary
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I would definately vote up on this if my kids were of school age again. Come on people...what is the difference between sticking you child in a Dayhome all day or letting them go to full time Kindergarden! I"ll tell you, a great economic diffference...THE PRICE!!


Dave, Ottawa
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Maybe we can move some sewing machines into the classroom and teach our kids to manufacture cheap T-Shirts while we're at it. Enough of this unproductive "nap" and "play" time.


Jo
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I'm all for full day schooling... A lot of us had it when we were kids. And who says that a 4 year old is working all day at school? My daughter was in school when she was 4 and they played a lot. In kindergarten, she played. She is entering grade 1 this year, is reading at a 3rd grade level and teaching herself 2nd grade math (no we don't push AT ALL). She socializes really well, has impeccable manners, and acts like a kid. She is also in daycare so her parents can work and afford a roof over her head. NO ONE is raising my children but me, they are merely watching them and playing games with them while I earn a living. And daycares do not sit kids in a room with 4 walls all day. They have planned activities, outtings, etc. My son is also in full time daycare and I hope when it's time for him to enter pre-school, it's offered full time here.


Concerned
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The difficulty with comparing this new arrangement with daycare is that parents now have a choice (yes, a choice) - they get to choose who will care for the well-being of their child. One of the most important developments of a child is the realization that they are unique, and in that uniqueness, they are loved. Where are you going to get that in a state-regulated education system? Can teachers honestly provide that aspect of care for the kids - while teaching them social skills and other subject matter - all the same time? Even if they could, can you not see the burnout of teachers? Can you not see the number of suits rising, because one child may be given more attention than the other? Somehow I fear that we will be embarking on education of the masses. Is that what we want? In this province of Ontario?


Stunned
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I am stunned by some of the comments I am reading. Let kids be kids? or let kids be stupid? I think full-time kindergarten has numerous benefits to both the student and society. Children's brains are like little sponges, ready and willing to absorb as much as possible. 2 1/2 hours a day is not nearly enough time for a child to learn and meet their potential. Alternate days don't provide consistency (especially for families that don't supplement the child's education at home). For those who want to deny their children this opportunity, keep in mind school is optional until the age of 6. Keep them home and don't be surprised if their grades suffer in the long run.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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Full-day kindergarten hardly constitutes academic slavery. (Montessori schooling for the very young has exploded. Couples are paying big bucks to develop their children in a healthy, enjoyable manner.) It would seem that many commenters here have this bogus idea in their head that kindergartners would be strapped to a desk, and deprived of play and diverse activity. Ignorant. Kindergarten would remain "fun," folks. Lighten up.


Ian in N.B.
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@Mrs. M in Niagra, I'm confused, are we Communists or Facists (Brown Shirts) here in Ontario? I'm sorry, but besides our Premier, who, as a liberal, I'm growing rather dissatisfied with, you make it sound like being industrious and following the rules is a bad thing. We pay our taxes, produce workers who do good jobs for good pay and live our lives. I personally think we've managed to do a good job so far with the cirriculum that's worked for decades. Kids need the time to just run around and have some nice unstructured time to play around with sticks and whatnot. Remember unstructured play time? What a grand thing that was.


B. Kelley, Ontario
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The more time that the state has with our children, the more time they have to indoctrinate them with the politically driven values and standards embedded in the curriculum. Parents will, unfortunately, look at it as free day care and ignore the fact that it is just an erosion of their best opportunity to instill their beliefs and values in their own children. Can you say "Chechnya" boys and girls?


victor
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and pray tell, what will be long-term effect on these kids, and what will be subsequent economic costs if they of such psychological and other effects? Would this be short-term gain for long-term pain strategy?


Ron from Georgetown
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Interesting when all these studies are done in the education system it always recommends more teachers. When all other industries are going tech we believe we need more teachers. In countries where there are strong teachers unions all the studies show we need more teachers and we have the worst results.


Elizabeth, Ontario
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I would rather see 4 & 5 yr olds in school all day everyday then the present system of every other day which creates a day care nightmare for parents. The child care offered by school boards before and after school is far too expensive - most parents, especially low income families, just cannot afford to pay $30./day for 2 hrs before school and 2 hrs after. That is more than most parents pay for full day daycare where children are provided meals, snacks, for at least 8 hrs per day. Government and school boards need to get real and offer affordable before and after child care before parents will buy in. Just another example of government being out of touch with the real working people.


uncomfortable
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I don't have a problem with full day kindergarten, as long as the majority of the teaching happens through play experiences. It becomes a problem when kindergarten starts to look more like grade one or two, with children sitting at tables doing pencil and paper work all day long. I am also a little disturbed that this article focuses on the economic benefits of all day kindergarten, rather than whether or not it truly benefits children.


Steve-O
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Judging by some of these comments (as well as spelling/grammar) the majority of posters here would have benefited from full time early education.


Lisa
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I have a child entering this program this year. Am I excited on the save on daycare? Yes definitely, but if I had a sitter in my rural area with space available I'd gladly pay the money to keep her at home alternate days. Perhaps instead of focusing on this Mr McGuinty could work on changing the Daycare Nurseries act in rural areas like mine.


Tony (from Azilda)
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This is merely a glorified babysitting service, paid for by already overwhelmed Ontario taxpayers. At the very least, those parents who choose to use others to bring up the children must be forced to pay a commensurate amount, and not expect all Ontario taxpayers to pay for this largely unnecessary service.


Suzie from BC
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I myself will be teaching full time Kindergarten this year and I am looking forward to it. Our district is planning for LOTS of play time and the educational goals have not changed. We just get way more time to work on it. I am disappointed that the article focuses on the economics but it is a reality. For people to continue to complain about children needed to be home is ridiculous ans demonstrate how out of touch your are with this new reality. Parents work!. The fact is most children would be at daycare from 8 to 5. Responsible School Districts will implement great programs. If your child is going to full time Kindergarten, be involve if you can, ask questions and make sure that your child gets lots of time to play and socialize. That's Kindergarten!


Over taxed
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To Doug of BC,I would rather my overtaxed bank account pay for daycare and schools then guns and killing machines.


Stay at home mom of two
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A national goverment operated daycare system is EXACTLY what is needed. Have you seen the neglect, abuse and unkindness showered on children in daycares? Daycare workers are women, they're under paid, not educated and unable to care for dozen's of children while their mothers and fathers are out having their lives to pay for their materialist thirst for the big house in the suburbs, two and even three vehicles, fancy clothes and vacations etc. while someone else raises their children.And for those of you men on this board and out there in the country, grow a pair and get out there and take care of your families so the mother can be secure enough both financially and maritally to stay home and raise your families. Get your' priorities straight people: it's our children or our material possessions.


Carol Rourke
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economics versus childhood....no surprise that our current provincial leader would see economics as the priority...money in government pockets is what he is all about.


forever5
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In theory, this is a good idea. The problem comes with finding the money to pay for it and the space to allow it to happen. Almost every school is filled to capacity now, so where are we going to put these children? Where does the money come from to hire the enormous number of new teachers it will take to fulfill this idea? Remember, it was McGuinty that said no more than 20 students per class. With the economy the way it is, increasing taxes to cover this is not going to go well. Education is one of the most important things we can give a child but this idea comes at a price that most of us just can't afford today!


Mrs. M in Niagra
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I am a Calgary with two children transplanted to SW Ontario for the past too many years so I believe I can add to this discussion.Ontario is one step away from communism; this is a culture of drones and robots who want to sleep walk through life with no pesky interruptions like, life ... or children. They want to go to their factory job where they make a stupid amount of money per hour, they turn their brains off to atrophy and do mindless labour all day then they want to drive to the school and/or daycare and pick up their children and go home and watch TV for two hours and go to sleep and get up and do it all over again. They will pay 90% taxes, sign their parental rights to children, violently shout down anyone who has a differing opinion just so they don't ever have to think or even be alive. Ontario is a province of mediocrity, conformity and they're determined to brainwash the next generation to be the same kind of brown shirts as they are.


Doug # BC
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"Concerned" is absolutely right.This is just the left wing social engineers sneaking their so called ""free""' day care in via the back door,and using the word education to justify it.Teachers, lobbyiists,and special interest groups must be jumping for joy with this news.And BTW fellow taxpayers,this will attack your wallets.It will not be "free",and it will impede efforts to lower taxes in the future. No,it is not ALL about money.I enjoy the time I spend with my kids.And they seem to enjopy the time too.So,here's an idea.Let's create some decent jobs,support the higher dollar,and start a program of gradually reducint taxes.Then more families can live on one income,and more families can spend more quality time with their children.While it will take years to achieve that goal,I remain convinced that most of our kids want our time a lot more than they want our money.And I firmly believe there is more value to what my kids learn from me than there is in what they will learn in these new classes. In our haste to create a nation of 21st century Albert Einsteins,we are depriving them of the time they need to grow up as individuals,and the time they need to really bond with the families they were born into.Yes,we may succeed in making them more academic.But they won't be the "real" people we need.Pointy headed academics have no monopoly on life.I want my kids to have a more rounded view of life.And we all know,or should know,that "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." This is NOT the freedom our forefathers fought so hard for.This is social engineering at it's very worse.This family wants it's right to choose.The taxes we have to pay to support programs like this deprive us of those rights.


Slewhigh Yendick
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Although I have VERY LITTLE faith in teachers,, I think more school time would be slightly better than sitting them down in front of the tv or worse yet, playing them silly computer games....


JB in Ontario
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That is ridiculous. 4 and 5 year olds should be bonding with mom.


Jon
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Any supposed "study" will favor kids in school longer provided the teachers get paid more or more often to ensure their supervision.

Obviously this is all a sham and our kids are the pawns.


Richard in Ontario
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Why is it that now that we are supplying subsidized Baby Sitting here in Ontario, we have to have two people running the classes. A teacher and a helper. A union thing I suppose.Now the pseudo parents can drop the children off at 8:00 in the morning and don't have to pick them up until six. I was always under the impression that the future of children was formed in part at the mother or father's knee. I wonder, if you haven't the time to spend with your children, then why have them in the first place?


Syl
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This is rediculouse. These kids need to be home with a parent, preferably the mother.


Lily from Mtl
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I'm going to go against the masses here. Since when is kindergarten a torture house of studies? While some education takes place, most of the activities are oriented around teaching the children social skills and little things. Most children like kindergarten, despite some grumpy outbusts in the morning. Adding half day wont be adding more strain as the caretakers know when to give their little minds a rest. By doing this we are, in effect, merging the kindergarten with the after-school daycare.I find it funny on these boards how any article is automatically condemned. Why such negativity?


Gloria
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It's just about money and not wha's best for the children. What is best for the children is being at home with their parents as long as possible.


Ashley
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There are a lot of comments on here about taking away children from their parents. However most of the children going into full-day schooling would be in daycare anyways therefore the point is irrelevent. The truth of the matter is children are sponges and can soak up a lot of information in their early years so why not give them every chance to excel in life?


Sheena
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I honestly don't see a problem with this. There are lots of children who get more attention at school then at home and being there longer means more interaction with other children. What's wrong with that? Instead of being at home playing video games or watching tv, a child can be at school around other children building up their social skills. As far as I can remember Kindergarten was arts and crafts, singing songs, playing games and learning the alphabet. Children still get to be children. There's also the fact that child care will be more affordable to families. Really??? You people still think this is a bad idea??


mpb
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I applaud this initiative. I grew up in a country where I started school at 4. This is an age where children have a great capacity to learn and where better than in a learning environment with their peers rather than sitting at home (or at a babysitter) watching TV or playing video games.More parents are at work , so the loss of parental involvement during the day is not an issue -- gone are the days when most mother's stayed home and nurtured their children. That of course would be ideal but it is not going to happen in these stressed economic times.


stevo
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The fact that the reasons for all day school for 4 and 5 year olds is measured in economic terms is the reason why it should not be done. It reminds me of the John Snobellin comment about students as "clients" back in the 1990's. The only reason McGuinty has pushed for this is so he can provide cheap daycare for parents. He cares nothing about the kids and their learning.Parents and teachers: Be prepared to have kids completely zonked out and ready for nap time by early Thursday every week.


mandosa
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Really no comment necessary on this one. All comments thus far show how ridiculous this is on every level. Once again, Ontario is receiving its just deserts for electing Mr. Mcguinty. But don't worry, the good votership will have their day when they give him another 4 years. I truly believe people like having their money and now clearly their children as well in the safe hands of almighty government.


John K
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I was expecting this article to focus on the well-being of the 4 and 5 year olds in a full day program. Instead the focus was on economics which, for me, with two small children, was disappointing. Does it matter what the effects are on the children?


Canadain Scot
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I went to school at 5 and it was all day. Whats the problem?


island girl
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So it benefits the government coffers, benefits the builders, benefits unemployed teachers, benefits the parents, benefits the economy....there's something missing.....oh, yah. The children. Did anyone find out if it benefits a 4 yr old to be removed from family, put in with a large group of kids and made to sit enclosed by four walls all day? I didn't even go to kindergarten, going directly in to grade 1. I have a 140 IQ and got straight A's through school. A child doesn't even need kindergarten. Let them play to get those social skills.


Doug
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Yet another new study from yet another organization , is trying to tell us something that we do not believe.Too many people do too many studies and too many people in the media have nothing else to do but advertise their results.Who and what is the Center for Spatial Studies (hope I got that right?), what is their agenda and, sorry for the sarcasm but, do they have anything to do with the teachers union?


JP
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The march to 1984 carries on.


James T Murphy
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A "study" shows that the state is a better parent than the biological ones. Of course the "study" will say there is greater benefit if the state raises our children because there is a political agenda at work. Its "free" day care and makes the populace dependent upon the state. That bodes well for future elections, eh.


Paul J. Kennedy
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This is about money and votes people. Young parents love it because full day kindergarden and pre-kindergarden programs save them thousands in daycare fees, and teachers's unions that lobbied for these programs increase their numbers significantly. Both groups will be reminded of these benefits over and over again about a year form now when we all place our x at the ballot box. It's all about the votes. Always has been, always will be.


Sober, Newmarket
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This is nothing but abuse of children. It is sickening to think that a society will take advantage of its toddlers to boost its economy. This is how an unfriendly future with messed-up emotions is created.This study is a fine example of how money is wasted.


Mintie
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Please tell me something...When are those children are supposed to BE children? Next they'll say that 3 years old should be in school!!!


Frank Buchan
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And all that matters here is money, evidently. No reference to the indoctrination of a new generation, further absence of parental interaction, and so on. When children are viewed as pawns on some economic chessboard, we need to give a firm shake to our heads and own up to how little value we place in them.


manner
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I see this study and wonder, why are we in such a hurry to put through our children through school? In Ontario, it is now possible for a 16 or 17 year old to enter university. We talk about disconnected children and families, slow down!


rosie
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another study with a pre determined result.I call bull spit.


Betty
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I can understand that this will make child care very affordable for a number of families but is it too much to ask that we let children be children for the short time they have to be chlldren. The benefits of play are enormous and very educational.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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Did the Centre for Spatial Economics "account" for the fact that many/most schools, and virtually all newly-built ones in deprived subdivisions across the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) in Ontario, cannot accommodate every-day, all-day kindergarten programs due to being at capacity already based upon alternate-day (and/or half-day) scheduling? Countless schools simply don't have the space to, effectively, double their kindergarten load by implementing an every-day, all-day program. Portable classrooms (or more portable classrooms) and/or additions to existing facilities would be required. What does that cost? Yeah; get back to me. (Aside: I'm always skeptical of studies that pinpoint economic benefits, as, for years, for example, we were told that for every $1.00 spent on "the arts" society received $7.00 back...which has been thoroughly discredited as flawed and grossly exaggerated.) I/we understand the obvious academic, education-based rationale behind expanding kindergarten programs.


Dan.D.
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Long ago they were teachers, now they are highly paid babysitters.


Concerned
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Does that mean that schools will now replace parents for the development of emotional maturity of these kids - the next generation - and future generations?


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