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A woman who was arrested and had her charges dropped discusses the aftermath of the massive G20 court appearance and the important of civil rights.
CTV National News: Scott Laurie in Toronto
More than 300 people arrested at the G20 summit had their day in a Toronto court on Monday. It was the largest mass court appearance in the city's history. Some of the prosecutions were short lived as many charges were dropped.
CTV Toronto: Correspondents on the hearing and rally
Hundreds of people showed up at the Finch Avenue West courthouse Monday, with many seeing their G20-related charges withdrawn. A rally was also planned outside police headquarters. Tom Hayes and Natalie Johnson report.
CTV News Channel: Cam Woolley, CP24
A reporter outside the courthouse where those charged in connection with the G20 protests are gathering says things are currently going very smoothly.
CTV News Channel: G20 opposition groups speak
As hundreds of G20 protesters prepared to appear in court, opposition groups argued against the prosecution of protesters arrested during the G20 Summit in Toronto.

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Date: Mon. Aug. 23 2010 9:23 PM ET

Some suspects accused of committing G20-related crimes had their charges dropped Monday in exchange for a charitable donation as several hundred people packed into a north Toronto courthouse.

"There's no admission of responsibility with this. It's simply a diversion," Crown attorney Vince Paris said outside the Finch Avenue West courthouse on Monday about the donation.

But protester Josh Berman asked: "If I'm not responsible, why do I have to pay anything?"

The Crown later said only a minority of accused individuals had their charges dropped. The majority will be back for return court dates in September and October.

More than 300 suspects made appearances in three different courtrooms over the day.

Monday's scene was chaotic at times as the suspects, their families, supporters, lawyers and various other protest groups and demonstrators descended on the courthouse. Busloads came from as far away as Quebec, with one person making her way to Toronto from Washington, D.C.

"I came all the way from Washington, D.C. just to have my case withdrawn because of course they don't have a case," Lacy MacAuldy said.

MacAuldy had been charged with assaulting a peace officer at a demonstration outside the Eastern Avenue detention facility during the G20 Summit.
 
"Today's hearing was completely ridiculous," said Dominic Palladini of the G20 arrestees' network, during a news conference outside the court. Speaking in French, Palladini said the hearing was a waste of time.
 
"We had to come from Montreal to Toronto for nothing, to learn the Crown wasn't ready to present evidence, to learn some people from the gymnasium are facing additional charges. That's totally ridiculous, and we'll be fighting that injustice."
 
Others had their charges dropped on Monday, including Robert Gamble, who had faced charges of disturbing the peace. He maintains all he did was yell "Arrest the war criminals. Investigate 9/11" while outside a friend's house in downtown Toronto.
 
Two news photographers also saw their charges withdrawn.
 
All of those appearing in court Monday have already been called before a judge in recent months to face their charges, and were told to return for the mass court date.
 
No trial proceedings were scheduled for Monday.
 
Instead, those charged will receive disclosure about the allegations against them and information about the next step in their legal proceedings.
 
Most of those appearing Monday were arrested at a protest at Queen's Park on June 26 when police stormed the area and rounded up dozens of suspects.
 
Some suspected ringleaders also appeared Monday.  They are charged with conspiracy to assault and obstruct police. One, accused ringleader Kelly Rose Pflug-Back, said she wasn't talking to the news media at the moment.
 
Twenty-three others who were rounded up after police released photos and asked for help from the public, were also to appear Monday. They face a total of 62 charges. Two individuals were re-arrested, and the one accused is a young offender.

Robyn Maynard, of an anti-capitalist group from Montreal, voiced the sentiments of many who believe the police action was heavy-handed during the G20.
 
"The reason that people came out this day... is that people were moved to protect their communities and those that they care about and denounce a global economy that's based in the massive transfer of wealth and the stripping of resources from the poor to the rich," Maynard said Monday outside the court.
 
"Being in the streets is not something that's illegal and it's not something that's unethical, it's actually something that many people all over the world think is necessary."
 
The arrests began in earnest after a relatively small group of vandals using so-called Black Bloc tactics split off from a massive, peaceful, labour-sponsored rally on June 26. By the day's end, six police cars had been torched or otherwise damaged. A number of downtown businesses had their windows smashed.
 
After the violence broke out, police started cracking down on all demonstrators. More than 1,100 people were arrested, but most were released without being charged in 24 hours.
 
Civil liberties groups have called the police reaction excessive, particularly a "kettling" incident at Spadina Avenue and Queen Street West on June 27. Police have said they feared another Black Bloc incident was about to start as a group of about 200 walked down Queen Street West.
 
The Toronto Police Services Board has said it will conduct an independent civilian review of policing operations that day, although Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty has said there will be no full public inquiry.
 
With a report from CTV Toronto's Tom Hayes and files from the Canadian Press

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Highway Dawg
said

By reading the comments posted I truly feel the sheeple of this country would give up a civil right a day until they had none. The sheeple believe the protesters are bad people so they must be bad.

Bear witness to the rise of the Security Industrial Complex. A new spin on an old business.


Gregoryd
said

To all those commenting on all these thugs maybe you should go to Iran and see what it is like to live in a society where protests are not allowed and death can quite easily be the result. That said the people that did damage need to pay for their actions. However I do not think over 1100 people were all responsible for the damage and should not have been arrested. The bottom line here is the police did a lousy job both days. The first day they stood by and let these people damage and did nothing. Then because they were criticized they over reacted and arrested everyone. We paid out a billion dollars and this is how prepared they were. Some people need to lose their job over this fiasco but it is not the Canadian way. Just cover it up as usual.


Elizabeth, Ontario
said

These thugs should be ordered to pay full restitution for damage done during G20 and G8 summits. They were a complete, and costly, embarrassment to taxpayers/residents of City of Toronto. For those who feel they were charged unnecessarily,.... you're known by the dogs you run with. If you were "just taking a walk and happened to get arrested" then, ... why were you anywhere near the protests? As for blaming Police - here's a quarter, call someone who cares! Peaceful protests are allowed in this country but the protests around the summits were NOT peaceful! Nor were they ever intended to be peaceful. I hope the court throws the book at the protesters and they are forced to pay, full restitution for all damage, or do jail time so they can take some time to think about their actions.


University Student
said

Just a side note: As a university student I would like to speak on behalf of myself and my peers. 95% of us don't care about the G20, we think violence is useless, as well as politicians (hence the low voter turn out in 18-25 age ranges).

We have better things to do with our time, study, work, party, enjoy the summer, etcetera.

Why on earth would I want to spend my weekend (long weekend for our rivals at UofT) protesting when I can chill out at a cottage or work to pay for our expensive (but a worthwhile investment) tuition?

The small group of "students" or "young" people that caused problems are just that, a small group. Their (the violent protesters) beliefs and attitudes don't reflect the general student or young population.

Please don't look down on younger generations.

Thanks!


abrocks
said

It was a very chaotic time and because of that, it would be difficult to determine who is there just for the protest and who was a threat. The police used the tactic of heavy-handedness because if they didn't, people would still complain and say, "Where were they and why didn't they keep things under control?". This is a case where no one wins.


Alfonse Brudrorge
said

Boy, the law-and-order types sure have some great ideas. A petition! An election! Wow, representative colonial democracy is so full of promise, so many avenues to redress the corporate devastation and criminalization of non-normative communities being promoted by our present overlords. I sure am glad I live in a democratic paradise.


CYL
said

what some of these protestors did was wrong for destroying other people's property so they should be held accountable for their actions. However, as for that G20 a message had to be sent, someone needed to help them with 'how to send a message' so that the right people will listen.... next time.


Robert
said

Joke or not, those that went about smashing windows and vandalizing everything in sight as seen in the videos should be charged. Absolutely. These "angry kids" used the summit as an excuse to destroy whatever they could in the name of free speech and expression and the shop owners and city workers didn't deserve the damage they had to clean up. Criminal records all around on those that are guilty.


Cat
said

Most of these people did nothing wrong. Hence out of 1100 people arrested only 350 charged. Now 75 of those have been cleared. A woman who had been shot twice with rubber bullets had her charges dropped. People from France were arrested for doing nothing. Vasey, veitch, all of them. The 17 people who did commit violence are out on bail. The courts and the cops are nuts in Canada and France the Uk and laughing at this event today. It shows to the cops were wrong the court can do faster hearings but the crown is inept.


Bob in DOWNTOWN Toronto
said

First, for those who actually DID commit acts of vandalism, throw the book at them.

With that out of the way...why is it there were 1100 or so people arrested, 300 or so officially charged, and today at least 75 of them dropped? If anyone DOESN'T see a problem with this, you can stop commenting. If there's a murder in the neighbourhood, do you arrest everyone, and sort it out in court?
What if a couple is coming out of a restaurant, or leaving Nathan Philips Square after a concert (promoted by the mayor). What about those stopped and searched on the streets BEFORE any vandalism started (like me). Anyone who thinks that the police did no wrong, and that all those arrested were involved with the vandalism have been drinking the kool-aid. Remember at the beginning of the Robert Djekanski(sp) case, most were behind the police, now, not so much.


Fantasm
said

@Anne you said, "People were told repeatedly by police to leave the area. When they did not they were arrested"
-------------------------
Try looking online at the videos of the people surrounded by the police. The police were laughing and telling them to leave ( a requirement before they can arrest them), but refusing to let them out of the perimeter. People are shouting at them "how can we leave if you won' let us?"
There's one particular video that shows a young girl of about 14, in the crowd, crying on her boyfriends shoulder in the rain, surrounded by 200lb plus riot cops in body armour.... She certainly doesn't look like a black clad Blac Blo member...


Victorian Kate (85 years strong)
said

Commit a crime = do time & pay the fine. I would also make them pay their share of all repairs and security costs. With no opt-out/bailout/cry baby clause to let them off the financial hook.


Mike
said

Wow you guys are acting like these people actually broke stuff. There were 200 windows smashed 5 cars burnt and a couple ATM's destroyed along with some news vans. The idea that 300 people did this would mean that basically each smashed just one thing. This is just stupid to believe. The fact is less than 70 people broke anything at these protests and the cops were literally just rounding up protesters. As one who got arrested and released on scene at Spadina Station (on Sunday) and as one who the cops tried to grab in Queens Park (I arrived at 5:15 to sit and rest before walking home from a day of protesting) I can tell you they were simply grabbing whoever they could. This is shameful policing in response to a bad situation. I wonder what these cops would do if the leafs ever won anything?

Now all of you people that weren't there are gonna find out that the cops actually do go around arresting people at random. I would not have believed it either until it happened to me.


Richard in Ontario
said

@Colin
I don't care if the G20 cost was a gazillion dollars, this still doesn't give the hooligans, thugs, jerks, cowards, that are disguised as protesters the right to destroy other people's property. I don't care what their cause is all about. Oh, they were so hard done by. Yah Right!!! For those others that were "peaceful protesters", some of these folks were arrested because they disobeyed orders from the Police. Too bad on them. Maybe at the next protest they will do as there asked.


Linda in Vancouver
said

Looking at people whining about their "rights" would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.These protestors regulary ignore the rights of the people who elected all of our governments.The people who pay the taxes that built our cities.The people who's work places were set on fire,and the people who couldn't go to work because the streets were plugged with idiots.
Yea.Blame Harper.If he made a mistake it was in assuming that Canadians in Toronto were grown up enough to host an international event.Chretien made that same mistake on the west coast many years ago.His band just pepper srayed the crowd.What kind of an idiot PM places faith in the people?
If you were there,you had a right to protest.We all know that.But if you support the rowdies and the destruction of property you are on my hit list.If you failed to get out of the way when things got nasty,you gave the rowdies the cover they needed to do the damage.That makes you either a idiot,or an accomplice.It's wake up time Janie.
No one has a right to set fires on the street,or give cover to those who do.The people who did the damage must pay for the damage.Not law abiding citzens.


Helen Jean
said

Are all these people on welfare or some type of social benefit? I would suggest that they all get jobs and then there wouldn't be time for this type of aberant, anti-social behavour.
What happened to law and order???


A Real Canadian Speaks.
said

Why are these people complaining? Had they not made themselves boisterous and obnoxious they wouldn't find themselves in the pickle they now find themselves in...simple. Did they really think they would change the world by parading around making noise and otherwise acting like "fresh out of university social radicalism classes" and "wet behind the ears" students rebelos? Come on give us Canadians a break! We have lived life, we like peace and we don't buy all your crap about the big bad establishment and their government lackies with the big bad police their enforcers. We see "bad" as those people who refuse to debate issues intelligently and rationally and who prefer to stage demonstrations which border on civil insurrection and anarchy. Want attention? Next time try another way obviously this didn't work. It never does.


dawn
said

JANIE:

i'm willing to bet most of the posters here are not what they seem; rather cops and gov't employees. i can't believe this many people believe the "authorities" about what happened at the G-20



Colin Hanshaw
said

I cannot believe the arrogance of some of the people's posts on here. Many people were attacked by police for no reason at all. Do a youtube search for "Police attack singing" the first videos that come up is the toronto police attacking citizens singing O Canada. Please before you make stupid comments like "They were breaking stuff" stop watching TV so much.


mike
said

Shame on Canada, If I could go back in time I would have brought more people with me.

Down with Harper.
Down with the UN.
Before you reply ask yourself what HAS the UN done for Canada.


Colin
said

Oh another quick comment, lot's of people complaining about 3.3million in damages, but the G20 itself cost over a billion in tax payers money. So unless you have trouble doing simple math... you should see where the problem really lays.


Craig
said

So, the charges weren't serious enough to hold them. They have months to do all this, have them all return on the same day, then tell them: "sorry, we're not ready yet, the dog ate my homework, come back in 2 months."

I wonder if the man who had his artificial leg stolen by police before his arrest was one of the ones who had his charges dropped, or if he was told to come back later.


Dean in Abby
said

Put all of them in Jail. Anyone caught on tape or in person destroying property in any way should be tossed in jail and made to pay for the damage. Also, wouldn't it be nice if we posted their faces, names, and addresses so all of us could see who and where these thugs lived?


Stu from London
said

I wonder how much of that 1 Billion Dollar price tag is going to go to civil lawsuits the government will have to defend against. You know there's a class-action lawsuit against the government that's coming down the pipe. Who's paying for that?


Marc
said

I've had enough of our court systems hugs for thugs mentalily and our very slack justice system. All these people should be held accountable and forced to pay for the damages and none of the charges should be dropped.


Greg
said

Make an example out of ALL these people and throw the book at them. They deserve what they get. Make them pay a heft fine, and pay for the damage, and leave with a criminal record.


Mark
said

Janie-my office is at Queen and University. Please don't lecture me about 'civil rights'.




Pip
said

I agree with most of your sentiments, Paul, but when you say "Each one of these idiots cost us $3.3 Million dollars in security costs. Then jail them for life.", I must disagree. Jailing them for life would cost us tax payers many millions of dollars more. Instead, as other posters have noted, make them highly visible, maybe blaze orange jumpsuits, and set them to work (unpaid, of course) cleaning up Toronto. If they are so opposed to international trade, let them work hauling garbage off the street (maybe wrappers from goods made overseas), grafitti off walls, or cleaning out sewers. A little humility never hurt anyone, nor did a little shame. They did the crime, let them do the time - productively.




Art
said

Public spankings seem justified in a case where young " ADULTS " act like spoiled brats. These people probably have never contributed anything positive to society or their cause.They have however managed to destroy any worthwhile message that legitimate prostesters were trying to convey , while destroying public and private property.


Janie
said

Were any of you at the G20 and know what you are talking about or are many of you armchair protesters? Do any of you realise that some of the people at the courthouse today are the ones who were lifted from the streets for just sitting in the allowed zone for peaceful assembly? Unless you were there and saw what happened to some of these people who were erroneously arrested, your comments are without credence. I can understand being upset with the ones who caused damage. I cannot understand lumping the ones who sat peacefully in the correct zone in the same group. Should you not be supporting the people who had their fundamental freedom of peaceful assembly removed from them? Or perhaps you feel the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms should be revised?


Paul ~ Kitchener
said

This was no demonstartion with a verbal message to invoke ~ it was "RIOTING" and conducted and orchestrated by criminals.
The only mistake the police made was not "Reading the Riot Act" and then going about the powers they have by law and stop this act of violence in its track.
Police brutallity ~ Hogwash ~ Civil Rights ignored ~ Hogwash.
These criminals have "No Rights" they give them up when they broke the law.
Isn't it also so tragic, that out of the woowork comes all these "Candy Ass Lawyers", to what, defend their lawlessness, (money drives these leeches).
Let Justice ring from the court, and to the guilty "JAIL + A CRIMINAL RECORD" !!!!!


Anne
said

Robert - you state that "innocent people were charged". Most of today's appearances deal with the arrests that occurred at one intersection on the Sunday after the destruction that occurred the previous day. People were told repeatedly by police to leave the area. When they did not they were arrested. To me, even if you were not a part of the thugs vandalizing the city, if you made the choice not to leave, you got what you deserved. That is not to me the description of innocent people, but people who made a conscious choice to ignore the directions given by the police. What the hell did they think was going to happen?


Richard in Ontartop
said

A couple of quotes in the article got my attention. Robyn Maynard stated "The reason that people came out this day..is that people were moved to protect their communities and those they care about etc". So trashing other people property does that? How?
And Mr Dominic Palladini from Montreal, says "Today's hearing was completely ridiculous and the hearing was a waste of time" My suggestion to this person is, it would be better if he told his group to stay in Quebec instead of trashing Ontario and deal with the justice system there. I will defend proests anytime, but when it involves hooligans, thugs and yes, cowards, then I just hope the Ontario justice system throws the book at them. If it takws months to do this then who cares?


Paul
said

Frist, publicize their names and pictures so everyone knows who and what they are. Second, make them pay for every cent of damage and for the legal costs of prosecuting them, and for the security. It was because of this handful of idiots that Canada had to shell out ONE BILLION DOLLARS! without idiots like this we would not have needed all that security. Do you think that if we had no security, if they had been given access to the meeting that they would not have pillaged and burned there too? The security was because of them. Each one of these idiots cost us $3.3 Million dollars in security costs. Then jail them for life.


Rodney
said

If I was the federal government I'd be going after the G20 thugs for reimbursement of the monies that I paid out to the business that were damed or destroyed by that disgusting display of disrespect for other peoples property.


Gord
said

If eventually convicted, these radicalized distructive thugs should be required to secure gainful employment and long long stretches of house arrest together with full restitution requirements plus interest deducted from their paycheques long into their futures, maybe even into their 40's and 50's.

Any mambly pambly bleeding heart defence of all their confusion started with their potty training and is all their parents fault should also be discounted. Shove accounability for their destructive actions down their collective throats and make 'em pay bigtime.


Mark
said

Robert-not only should guilty people 'be aware' they also need to face restitution or the justice system stands for nothing and by our inaction we will invite more of this criminal behaviour.

As for intentionally misleading people, where is the hue and cry for McGuinty's government to come clean on their 'illegal' or quasi-illegal abuse of the justice system by implementing the 'law' prohibiting gathering within 15 metres of the fence? McGuinty's government continues in its lie and deceive policies-now tried and true and years long.

Don't just blame it on the Toronto Police. This fish...stinks from the head.


Rick in NB, Ste Marie
said

Look at the money we're wasting to jail unwanted guests at Stephen's tea party, or as i like to call it " Harper's Bazaar ". Wouldn't it have been nice to use the 2 billion dollars on people in need, instead of the world's elite. We all know there is a mess to clean up after every party, but i usually attend the parties that i clean up after. Heck, i didn't even get a muskoka chair.


Robert Drew
said

Yes, guilty people should be aware
that they will suffer consequences for their actions. However, there was misinformation given about the
unusual "police powers" and innocent
people were charged. Rubber bullets
etc. were used and the police over-
reacted in some cases. The public was intentionally mislead by some politicians and Toronto Chief of
Police. Apologies came late.


Will
said

The best way to deal with this is to make them PAY the freight for their actions. Take the direct costs involved from what they did and bill them for it PLUS fines. And make certain that they cannot weasel out of it by bankruptsy etc. When you act responsibly, we'll treat you like responsible adults. TANSTAAFL: "There aint no such thing as a free lunch:


Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
said

I agree with Mark. If you do not agree with something you can protest in peaceful ways. Burning
police cars and destroying/damaging businesses should not and will not be tolerated.
We the tax payers are footing the bill and we want to see these criminals held responsible and face jail time. We have had enough, this type of "protest" has to stop...NOW !



Arnie Williamson
said

Welcome to the justice system.

Now that individuals are being held one at a time to account for their actions, I wonder if we'll see a whole bunch of suddenly very remorseful people.

I suppose when the criminal part of the process is concluded the banks businesses and insurance companies will begin the civil process fo monetary restitution from those convicted.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Give the motley, disrespectful crew of political and societal deviants, whose boneheaded behavior drowned out their own message and rendered their "protest" a juvenile farce, a court-orchestrated spanking, and send them back to their "group homes" and/or parents' basements. For those who gleefully engaged in the destruction of private/public property like shining criminal idiots, spank them really hard...and make them pay, with time, money, and service.


Alex (Toronto)
said

This is going to be one of the largest we have seen in recent years.


Mark
said

Here is my take on this issue. Some of these people were nothing but cowardly thugs getting their jollies by trashing legitimate businesses and signs of authority (police cars)-paid for by MY TAX DOLLARS. The ones responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

No doubt we'll hear all sorts of namby-pamby excuses but the sum total of this is that a civilized society has laws in place for the mutual protection of the people and it's government. You want to protest? Go to Queen's Park, write a petition and vote your conscience.

This "radical" and "anarachist" crap is exactly that-crap. Throw the book at that bunch.


manner
said

RESTITUTION: Should be the key factor in today's court appearances. These people have damaged property as a means of protest. That is not a peaceful protest. The counter arguement that the G20 should not have been held in Toronto, and the damage that occured was brought upon itslef is nonsense. These people should be sentenced to work for the City of Toronto in any capacity it sees fit to repair graffiti, paint walls, pick up trash in parks, and help the homeless. As they took away from Toronto, so too, should they give back.


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