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Designer of Ottawa's light rail plan says a tunnel will have to go at least 100 feet underground.

City will have to dig deep for light rail: designer

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Designer of Ottawa's light rail plan says a tunnel will have to go at least 100 feet underground.

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Designer of Ottawa's light rail plan says a tunnel will have to go at least 100 feet underground.

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Date: Tue. May. 18 2010 4:47 PM ET

The man overseeing Ottawa's light rail plan says the downtown tunnel will have to go far underground, as much as 35 metres or more than 100 feet. He says it's the challenges of an urban area.

"It allows us to get under the complicated utilities downtown. We minimize cost for the city by doing it that way," said John Jensen, the Ottawa rail implementation director.

Challenges include utilities and parking lots that are already underground, as well as the Rideau Canal.

Some people disagree with Jensen's theory, saying digging just below the surface would save taxpayers' money, and commuters' time.

"There were routes that would have been a lot closer to the street," says transit advocate David Jeanes.

The city says it will take people about two minutes to get from the rail platform to street level.

"They're estimating two and a half minutes, but in my experience it's more like five when you're at that depth," said Jeanes.

Other cities agree with Jensen's plan, if Ottawa makes commuters the priority.

"As long as there are good facilities, elevators and escalators, to bring people from ground level to the LRT. That's the key measure to put in place," said Joe Mihevc, chair of Toronto's Transit Commission.

Construction of the downtown tunnel is not expected to start until 2013.

With a report from CTV Ottawa's Catherine Lathem

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reidjr
said

edCP
Part of the issue is there copying citys like toronto which is a big part of the probleam.


orleansguy
said

What's the big fuss? The media is creating this the no reason at all! As a Civil Engineer, this design is normal compared to other cities with subway lines. Look at it this way - the cost of not going 100 feet is more expensive - move all the utilities, avoid buildings and the canal?? Come folks - let's this puppy in. The cost of not doing the tunnel will much greater to the city in the long run.


Davis
said

what a waste of money. In the worst traffic, it does not take much time to get from Ottawa U to Bronson. Our downtown core is miniscule compared to Montreal or Toronto so it seems silly to waste billions and billions of dollars for a km of rail line.


Reener
said

Not sure how the traffic is worse from the West when they just expanded it and added HOV lanes there. Should be making it smooth sailing for those who take the initiative to carpool. The East end is pretty awful at the split all the way to Lees Ave. Again, only goes to reinforce the idea of light rail to bring people INTO the city, not THROUGH downtown.

As far as the comment on the overpass idea goes, do you actually take the bus? Crossing Laurier and Nicholas are the two worst bottlenecks on the transitway downtown. Put the buses over them so they aren't stuck at lights and backing up to the Campus station on one side, and Elgin street on the other. People running across the street on red lights at Rideau Centre don't help either.

I also don't understand how our council thinks commuting patterns will continue the same way for the next 100 years. I think there will be huge drop-offs in even the next 5 as technology allows more people work from home, or only commute a few days a week. Much easier to pull buses off the line or adjust peak service when you're not tied to rail.


jay
said

Renner
The issue is the worst traffic is comming from the west not the east.


René
said

What a great idea!

Building overpasses in an era where almost every city in the world are taring theirs down or planning to.

Get real!!!!!


edCP
said

At sixty-seven years of age I do not ever expect to ride on any type of light rail in Ottawa even if I live another 20 years. Council can't make a decision on anything and probably couldn't organize a booze-up in a brewery. If I lived in Ottawa I'd be livid at the money the can spend but on nothing with any substance. Ottawa city council is a joke! And a very expensive one at that!


Patric
said

The city is still young and now is the time to built this tunnel. As long as it's done right and that every dollar is well spent I have no issue with it. To Joe, transit is essential and is beneficial to everyone. It will be worth it in the long run. PS: Monkeys elected those monkeys...


Reener
said

Drop this tunnel/train downtown idea once and for all. We need one to bring people to the city, not through it.

Here's a cheaper and faster plan (both to build and in terms of time saved commuting):

1. Make Hurdman and Lincoln Fields hubs and run shuttle buses every few minutes through downtown.
2. Build an overpass from Campus to Rideau to eliminate the bottleneck there.
3. Build an overpass from Bay to Lebreton to eliminate the bottleneck there.

Once the total number of buses is reduced to only shuttles, it will be smooth sailing everywhere else downtown.



Joe
said

Please stop digging into our wallets city council. There's no more money there. Time to elect all these monkeys out of office. I think I just insulted monkeys everywhere. I apologize to every monkey and primate out there.


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