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James Drummond, a Dalhousie University professor and chief investigator for the Canadian Network for the Detection of Atmospheric Change, stands, July 24, 2006 on the roof of the Polar Environment Atmospheric Research Laboratory (PEARL), on Ellesmere Island in the Canadian territory of Nunavut. (AP / Ted S. Warren)

Climate-change research in Canada waning: scientists

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James Drummond, a Dalhousie University professor and chief investigator for the Canadian Network for the Detection of Atmospheric Change, stands, July 24, 2006 on the roof of the Polar Environment Atmospheric Research Laboratory (PEARL), on Ellesmere Island in the Canadian territory of Nunavut. (AP / Ted S. Warren)

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James Drummond, a Dalhousie University professor and chief investigator for the Canadian Network for the Detection of Atmospheric Change, stands, July 24, 2006 on the roof of the Polar Environment Atmospheric Research Laboratory (PEARL), on Ellesmere Island in the Canadian territory of Nunavut. (AP / Ted S. Warren)

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Date: Sat. Apr. 3 2010 7:11 PM ET

The meeting of Arctic states held in Chelsea, Que. earlier this week was billed as a way to spur international efforts concerning global warming and the Far North.

Instead, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticized Ottawa for failing to invite more foreign governments and other stakeholders, such as aboriginal groups, that are concerned with Arctic issues.

"We need all hands on deck because there is a huge amount to do, and not much time to do it," Clinton said in a prepared statement. "What happens in the Arctic will have broad consequences for the Earth and its climate. The melting of sea ice, glaciers and permafrost will affect people and ecosystems around the world, and understanding how these changes fit together is a task that demands international co-operation."

Yet when it comes to understanding how the climate of the Arctic will change in coming years, scientists say Canada is falling off the map.

Last week, a climate research centre at the University of Montreal, known by the acronym ESCER, warned that such groups are being forced to close across the country.

A lack of federal funds for climate and atmospheric science has "sounded the death knell for research groups working in this field in Canada," Rene Laprise, ESCER's director, wrote in a statement.

His centre has lost two staff, who found government jobs after learning that their salaries would not be guaranteed past September 2010, Laprise told CTV.ca by email. Five others are expected to leave "any time," he wrote.

Climate scientists across the country say they're in a similar situation -- with dwindling funds and poor prospects to secure more money, they're preparing to shut down major projects while their staff seeks jobs abroad.

Financial woes

Laprise and other scientists in his field are frustrated that the 2010 federal budget, made public last month, set aside no new money for the Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, the main source of federal funding for climate-related research.

CFCAS was founded in 2000 and has doled out $116 million on 198 research grants at universities from Victoria to Halifax.

Canadian scientists who have contributed to international initiatives such as the World Climate Programme and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change rely on the foundation for a large part of their research money.

And while CFCAS's mandate runs to March 31, 2012, it hasn't received any new cash since 2003, and the money it has received was "fully committed" two years ago.

"There are no more funds to be distributed," Kelly Crowe, a spokesperson for the foundation, told CTV.ca by email. "Our researchers are all looking at wrapping up their projects for good."

A spokesperson for Environment Canada said that last year, the ministry received a funding request from CFCAS for $50 million to be spent over three years. But the request hasn't been approved.

"The government will continue to consider this proposal, in the context of our current fiscal constraints," Tracy Lacroix-Wilson wrote in an email. "We cannot speculate on any future funding at this time."

Brain drain

Meanwhile, climate and atmospheric science researchers have begun to leave the country.

In December, Katrin Meissner quit a tenure-track position at the University of Victoria and moved her family to Sydney, Australia. She now studies climate change at the University of New South Wales, with two other researchers who also recently left Canadian universities.

"The possible closing of the CFCAS was certainly part of it," Meissner said, referring to her decision to leave.

Theodore Shepherd, a veteran physicist at the University of Toronto who studies atmospheric dynamics, said people like Meissner are pulling up stakes because the international landscape for climate-change funding no longer favours Canada.

When CFCAS was created in 2000, Shepherd said Canadian universities began attracting climate scientists from Europe who would otherwise have gone to the U.S.

But economic stimulus programs introduced in the wake of the recession injected cash into climate-change research in the U.S. and in many European countries. That's made them more attractive destinations for scientists in related fields.

The situation is changing "partly because they've got more money, partly because we've got no money," Shepherd said.

He admits he has started to look for opportunities abroad, due to persistent funding problems in Canada.

"Not super actively," he said. "But I'm realizing it's going to be very hard to do what I want to here."

Atmospheric research on the Arctic, an area that experts say will be hit particularly hard by climate change, is also being threatened by federal funding problems.

James Drummond is an Oxford-educated physicist at Dalhousie University, and the principal investigator for the Polar Environment Atmospheric Research Laboratory, located 1,100 kilometres from the North Pole.

He expects the lab will be forced to close unless Ottawa announces additional public money to pay for salaries and operational expenses.

"At the moment, we're operating on the principle that something will turn up," he said by phone from Halifax. "The reality is that the funding stream has been broken."

In recent years it has become harder to get federal money in all areas of atmospheric science, Drummond said. And while many scientists in that field don't expect to run out of funding until later this year or early 2011, he said they need new money now in order to map out their work next year.

"It's not research that can be turned on and off like a tap," Drummond said.

With no additional money, he added, the issue of brain drain has become "very real" in the world of Canadian atmospheric science.

"And once those people leave it will be very hard to get them back, because they'll say ‘well, look what happened last time.'"

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annie
said

You'd have to been born yesterday, well within the last 25/30 years to believeany of this global warming crap.I sure hope the future genration knows what it's signing up for, and how they could have been so better off using common sense.


Adrian from Hamilton
said

Maybe the climate change scientists should look to the private sector for some of their funding. The WWF must be getting large amounts of donations from Earth Day and CN Tower climb activities. One of their main objectives is supposed to save Canada 's Polar Bears. So please spend some of that money on Canadian scientists instead of shipping it to Australia.


Mdudak
said

Climate change is real, there is no denying that. The real questions is, what is the true expected impact on mankind. Denying the climate is changing is ridiculous and dangerous.What we really need to know is how will it impact us, what we need to do to get ready for more and more changes (socially, economically, politically) and lets set the path for a smooth transition.mankind has lived through an ice age but the challenge before us can threaten our way of life....I doubt it will threaten our existence albeit, may caused havoc with our establish order in the world.


bikerborz
said

Climate change or global warming, science or hype, truth or fabrication... does nobody understand that, regardless of one's opinions or beliefs, this government is just a minority one, and is so far in debt from the economic downturn that there just plain isn't enough money to go around? If this funding is so critical, why isnt the Opposition making noise? Obviously, it's not that critical, my personal opinions and beliefs notwithstanding.


Dan in Quebec
said

Remind me why we need to invite the aboriginal groups again? Are they not already represented by the federal government as Canadian citizens? Why not invite a Quebec representative, a seal hunt representative and while we are at it, some Russian, Polish, Jewish and Islamic representatives. When are we going to stop this nonsense about special interest groups?


Jeff
said

I would suggest all those skeptics, if they are not aware of the science behind climate change to actually look at the science before writing it off. Don't base your review of the situation on what politicians say, what Glen Beck says or on any particular online blog states. Instead look at actual peer reviewed studies. scholar.google.ca is a good source.

Marc
said

Good, why don't we put our science funds back into the space program, which is falling off the world stage due to lack of funds. Global Warming is a fraud. Everyone knows it.


Rob
said

Has anybody checked to see how the under water volcanic activity and how much of it there is that is causing our ocean currents to heat up. I am pretty sure that humans are not all to blame for all of the climate change. Its funny how they complaining about cutting emissions but they are stil building roads and putting traffic lights in. Wouldn't be smarter to build the proper interchanges and keep traffic flowing instead of sitting in traffic. Calgary is one example on to tie trafffic up, yet they want ban drive throughs at Tim Hortans! No common sense!


Gimpenstein
said

Climate change is a natural part of the world. people quickly forget 10,000 years ago huge parts of the world were under hundreds of meters of ice.is climate change happening Yes, but it would if there was never a human born on this planet. Are we contributing to it? maybe, maybe not.


Kevin in Ottawa
said

Anyone who can follow the scientific method and understands first year physics/chemistry knows that black body radiation and reflectivity governs the temperature of the earth in concert with the total incident radiation from the sun.The fact that amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has changed, and according to the known laws of physics MUST change the amount of infrared radiation emitted from the earth. If the heating effect of the additional trapped IR causes some H2O to enter the atmosphere there are two possiblities, (a) either the H20 condenses (cloud) and reflects additional solar radiation away, thus compensating for heating but reducing the direct sunlight on the earth (note, little temperature change, but still significant climate change), or (b) the additional H2O vapor doesn't condense and instead acts the same as CO2 (H2O vapor is a strong greenhouse gas as well) and magnifies the temperature change.Int either case, the laws of physics requires the climate to change. The only real question is how much? Are you willing to gamble the stability of our civilization and the health and happiness of your children on that "nothing bad will happen?".Remember, many empires have fallen before. The failure of earlier empires (Roman, Mayan, etc.) have been linked with the inability of the environment to support the society. Those large empires were sure to have considered themselves "too large to fail".Our society is not "too large to fail". Natures laws always take precedence and we ignore them at our peril.


MARG MM
said

Since CFCAS hasn't received any new money since 2003, it seems this is not just a Conservative issue, but a Liberal one as well, as they were in power until 2006. I think it is wise to not throw money around until there is more concrete evidence, and not just the word of the likes of Al Gore & David Suzuki. It will be interesting to see if the Liberal/NDP will think this is a big enough issue to bring down the Government!!!


SK Scientist
said

What alarmist nonsense! Being a scientist, I know exactly how squeaky wheels get the oil...


David G in Toronto
said

Investigate Climategate NOW!! Enough of this man made global warming nonsense! We should not even give them another red cent for this FRAUD. Why is the mainstream media ignoring this?!?!


Nanook
said

What ever happened to that huge hole in the OZONE layer? Since global warming first appeared, I haven't heard or read about it ONCE! What happened, did the "save the ozone layer" funding run out?


Doug # BC
said

I guess your opinion is formulated by the spin you put on the issue. But cutting the funding may not be all that bad. It mainly depends on what most of the "professors were studying. Of cource, those who believe man made climate change is a hoax, or that there is nothing that we in Canada can do about it, will be jumping for joy as they see fewer tax dollars spent on the minutia of the problem. Some of these studies are like studying a planet of a galaxy that is billions of light years away. Interesting,but hardly useful for much more than the thrill of discovery. If climate change is real, the money should not be spent on minutia, or on the same studies that are being done elsewhere. Spend it on energy efficiency,or developing AFFORDABLE and PRAGMATIC ways to develope cleaner energy. A far more useful exercise than trying to prove if, when, or by how much the climate may change over the next several decades. Being mired in debt here, it seems foolish to spend billions of dollars analyzing something that Canada has little influence over. Future Canadians will be better served if those dollars are spent on analyzing how we will respond to, and live with the changes, if and when they do come. After all,even if we shut Canada down permanently,without serious change by the big polluters,we would still be in the same boat.I see little advantage by knowing if the climate will change by 1 degree,or by 3 degrees if we can't alter that change. I do see an advantage to knowing what we should do,and how we will adapt to a different climate. Evolution.Not revolution.


Paula
said

Climate-gate clears all scientists of any wrong doing and that their scientific assertions were correct, accurate and concise. Harper (the manna-be G.W. Bush), has effectively put his blinders on and made Canada again a laughing stock of the world by cutting funding. What a way to govern...by simply ignoring and denying. Next, Harper will tell the World that there IS no poverty in Canada by simply cutting the funding to those that disagree with him.


c
said

Blame this on Harper. For the last 5 years there has been a huge surge in climate change research on Canadian land done by other countries. Why do other countries think Canada is worth studying when we ourselves have our head in the sand over this issue? Harper i WANT TO KNOW????


Tim
said

This is good news! No more of my tax money going towards this junk science. The whole "climate change" field of endeavor is politically motivated. Not hard science. Sorry folks, climate change (btw, how come they're not calling it global warming anymore?) has been around as a constant ever since this world's been spinning around. Climate change existed long before cars and factories were here. Get a grip. Kudos to the Conservative gov't. for cutting back on these useless programs.


Mike S.
said

We've become a joke and so has this government. There seem to be many countries that think Canada isn't doing enough or anything at all. I guess the rest of the world is wrong and our backwards government is right. Conservatives at their best.


JK
said

Human induced climate change doesn't exist. This "theory" is more scare mongering. Bottom line is it also requires more money from us the taxpayer. By the way, there are lots of Polar Bears and the Arctic ice isn't threatened. Good-bye to the "scientists" and you too Hillary et all.


George V.
said

The Global Warming /Climate change researchers and labs are slowly closing up shop and looking for employment and gov't funding elsewhere. They will receive the same welcome there as they did here, unless they become more credible, come up with more undisputible hard core facts, communicate their findings and how they arrived at these conclusions, so that the whole system becomes totally transparent, that it can withstand any criticism, deflect any opposite findings, that all their information is irrefuteable, able to be understood and grasped by the average Joe citizen. Until then, they will only be viewed as another overspending section of society at the public trough fattening themselves on our tax dollars.


Nighthawk
said

Here's an old quote: When Abraham Lincoln was asked how long does it take to cut down an oak tree, he replied 5 hours, the first hour was to sharpen my axe, and 4 more to cut it down. This is the same with climate change, before we act, we need to learn. We should be wise on how can we better act, and not just simply spend money on programs that are set to put a band aid on the problem. We truly need to re-evaluate the leadership behind these decisions that are being taken in the name of the Canadian people. Because I promise you this, if politicians are being bribed to slow down the enviromental movement, and ignore the harmful impacts of major corpoprations are having to the environment, this Concervative Goverment shall be cut down like an Oak tree, and will take a century before it can rise up again.


PBW
said

I'm with you, Pye Charrt. Let's fund the research and gather the data, then develop conclusions from that data. However, I am reluctant to give an open cheque; put funds in place for three more years, at which point a paper with conclusions must be presented, first to the government, as it is "government" money; then, in the same format, no changes permitted, to a peer-reviewed magazine (that way no editing cam be made to make these facts "fit" the doom-and-gloomers' scenario). As long as the research is open-ended, any scientist would always say "there is more to be learned". I agree, but let's have accountability for the first monies before more is given.

Sober, Newmarket
said

All of the global warming / climate change hype only leads to more spending in an economy that can hardly afford it. The earth goes through cycles, and we are now witnessing one. Doesn't help to panic about it. Some of these scientists only work to find evidence for what they want to believe. I don't see real science in action where the phenomenon is studied from all angles together. Rather, I see divisions along the lines of those who believe and those who don't, and everybody is scrambling to find proof for their point of view. Unless we see serious science we should not be required to throw serious money at it.


Catwoman 37
said

So far this govt has cut a lot of funding for organizations since 2006. It is obvious, if an organization does not follow the conservative agenda, it will lose its funding. Meanwhile, we are only in a minority govt. The following have have lost funding, or some of its funding: 1) Canadian Council on Learning, 2) Aboriginal Healing Foundation, 3) Canadian Federation for Sexual Health, 4) Canadian Federation for Students, 5) Kairos Canada, 6) Canadian AIDS Society, 7) Canadian Council for Social Development, and now the Canadian Foundation for Climate & Atmospheric Sciences. There is more that have been cut. Who is next? Come on opposition leaders, take the govt on about this cut here and cut there before we have nothing left.


DJ
said

Good, I'm glad we are not throwing millions of dollars away at this issue. I have not bought into the man made climate change hoax. It is a good way for a lot of scientists to keep their research going if they say the climate is changing at an alarming pace. How about money for the researchers who have a different view of climate change? No, I don't think that will happen either.


David
said

I just want to know why these scientists keep getting my tax dollars to hide the decline in global temps? I want to know why everytime it is warmer than usual they freak out screaming global warming and run to the TV cameras. However why are they in hiding all winter, when it snows in Dubai or on the Mexican border? In places in Texas they were tossing snowballs for the first time in over 100 years. Of course the pravda media never asks these guys serious questions. They sure are ready to put a camera in their faces every spring though.


Ivan
said

Harper will continue to fiddle as Rome burns (or in this case melts). Meanwhile the conspiracy theorists flood the internet with their propaganda based on innuendo and junk-science. Pave the Amazon, melt the polar icecaps, just as long as my oil stocks continue to grow.


Joe the plumber
said

I am surprised that a leader within Canada or the US hasn't banded North Americans together to file a lawsuit against Al Gore and David Suzuki's Foundation misleading claim on Global Warming or other-wise known as Global Warming Gate.


Lz in Edmonton
said

Climate Change is garbage. The real crime is pollution. The climate always changes. I would like some of these people to tell me why the vikings had farms on Greenland only a few short centuries ago and today it is a frozen wasteland? Instead, we should be looking at air, water and solid pollution which by all accounts, have caused more damage than any C02 or CH4 gas. Anything to the contrary is just plain insanity and I refuse to listen to the Al Gores and David S of the world for spreading their false lies. Had they talked about pollution and toxins, they would have increased their credibility 100 fold.


Jim Cripwell
said

It is so nice to see a number of comments noting that AGW is a hoax. Of all the places this government can save money, it is abandoning anything to do with "climate change", "global warming", or whatever the flavour of the day is for its name. It will take a long time to find the stake to drive through the heart of AGW, but this will happen as the hard data shows conclusively that adding CO2 to the atmosphere makes no discernable difference whatsoever. Already we have indications that the forecast of an ice free Arctic Ocean in the summer is extremely unlikely in the near future. And this particular forecast is, of course, of special interest to Canada.


Nanook
said

NO ONE can tell me why 30 years ago, these same BOZOS were predicting an ICE AGE! I was happy, because it meant a longer snowmobile season. How things have changed!


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

The quiet withdrawal of "public" (government) funding merely serves to stifle the debate over Climate Change. The question isn't going away, and it's a scientific one that can't be legitimately argued and answered by armchair pundits in the peanut gallery who've read a couple favoring or disfavoring articles, or watched a video on YouTube. There's enough silly waste in Canadian government expenditures to easily cover the requisite research funding. A "big picture" concern such as this fits the role of government. Let's put the money on the table, get an acceptable answer to the question (rightly, nobody's taking Al Gore and David Suzuki's word for it), and settle the matter, so that we can move forward accordingly. The environmental and economic consequences of blissful ignorance need to be taken seriously.


mikel
said

Don't be concerned about Canada's reputation. As the rest of the world comes to realize what we now know, that global warming is a fraud, funding will be cut across the board. I would put money on the idea that the states will soon cut its own research.


Havelock Heavy
said

Unbelievable. This government really is a climate change denier. They won't spend money on good science, or mitigation, or controlling the problem, or energy conservation, or alternate energy sources, but they will waste a ton of taxpayers' money to research the feasibility of pumping carbon dioxide down a big hole. Boneheads. Canadians have to wake up and kick them out.


Rene
said

This is not an article about climate change, it's an article about our government's failure to properly fund the research necessary to prove/disprove/expand on climate change. It simply reflects the Progressive Conservative's unstated position of manipulating the global agenda, the Canadian agenda, and the scientific agenda through whatever means necessary and possible.


Reece
said

I don´t know what is true. The Piri Reis map suggests that Antarctica was ice-free hundreds of years ago. Today we have scientists suggesting that the melting of snow caps and Antarctica is a new phenomenon but how could it be new when you can deduce from the map it's part of a cycle? Who do you believe? Some people are closed-minded and will either stubbornly believe we are destroying our planet, and others will believe we can´t - neither camp have all the facts before them and both sound equally closed minded.


Dennis in Edmonton
said

It seems to me the money was committed in 2000 but the people managing the funds overspent. Poor management? Climate change does not get a blank cheque. No government funded program does.


Ryan from Edmonton
said

How's the weather down there? Warm?


Geoffrey Tnompson
said

Investigate ClimateGate!!! Man-made climate change is a LIE. Do you actually think that Man is more powerful than the sun? Puhleeeeeze!!!


allan
said

I hope the "brain drain" goes to something constructive like improving the economy, and not wasted on pie-in-the-sky doomsday theories.


Henry Wysmulek
said

Just read an article that states sea ice is back to normal levels.


Jake in Florida but still Canadian
said

Climate-change has now taken over from the term global-warming. Different name, same bogus claim! Instead of investing anymore funds into proving a radical theory, the money should go toward proactive measures such as enhanced technology to reduce energy use.


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