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Bob Barker wants zoos to close elephant exhibits
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Date: Wed. Feb. 25 2009 9:07 AM ET
Retired TV game-show host Bob Barker says Edmonton's Valley Zoo is falling behind the lead of "enlightened zoos" by keeping elephants on display.
"The great zoos...the progressive zoos, the enlightened zoos, have come to terms with the fact that an elephant cannot be healthy and happy in a zoo," Barker told CTV's Canada AM on Wednesday morning.
"And what are they doing about it? They're closing their elephant exhibits."
Barker, a staunch animal rights activist who used to host "The Price is Right," pointed to several major U.S. zoos that have closed down their elephant exhibits.
"There are no elephants on exhibit in Metropolitan New York now, no elephants in the Central Park Zoo, no elephants in the Bronx Zoo -- where they had them for 100 years, they've closed them," he said.
Barker has pushed the Valley Zoo into the spotlight in recent days, by openly questioning the health of Lucy, the only elephant currently on display at the Edmonton facility.
"Up in Edmonton...they want to keep that one poor elephant there," he said. "That's torture for her."
As Barker told CTV Newsnet on Tuesday, he wants to see Lucy moved to a sanctuary where she can "live the life that nature intended."
Dean Treichel, operations supervisor for the Valley Zoo, said Barker's criticisms are based on limited information that has been made available to him.
"Bob is basing some of his information on 200 pages of health records that have been gathered through the Freedom of Information Act, boiled down to about six pages," he told Canada AM.
"So he's making assessments on her health based on a very, very abbreviated look at it."
According to the Valley Zoo website, Lucy has been in Edmonton for more than 30 years. She is currently suffering from a respiratory problem that zoo staff believe is related to a mal-positioned molar that is affecting her sinus area.
This molar, Treichel told Canada AM, "should eventually fall out and not be an issue anymore."
The Edmonton elephant has also suffered from rheumatoid arthritis for some time, though the zoo website says "the situation is being successfully managed through treatments that relieve Lucy's symptoms."
Treichel said he wasn't sure about Barker's suggestion that "enlightened" zoos had stopped showing elephants for purely altruistic reasons.
"A lot of those zoos got out of elephants, not because they were enlightened, (but) because they thought it might be better to put them into larger breeding programs," he said.
On Wednesday, Barker said he believes that children can learn about elephants such as Lucy without seeing them in person.
"Children know all about dinosaurs, don't they?" he said.
"They know all about dinosaurs. They have never seen one, but they know all about them."
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I fail to see just what a minister could learn by an on site visit that he couldn't get from people who are actual experts in the various fields of work involved. It is doubtful that he is any sort of nuclear engineer or expert in construction. Just another photo op...
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Allan (Vancouver)
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Lorraine
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J.C.
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The only fault that I can see with this particular elephant is that she lacks animal companionship. The zoo might be wise to expand her facilities and get a few more from other zoos to give her the animal companionship she so deserves. If all the zoo elephants were sent to Tennesee reserves, there would soon be not enough room for them there. It is proven that the lifetime of an animal is greatly increased while in captivity. Do you think that they would survive longer in captivity if they were as unhappy as many here surmize?? No they would not. They would die from being so unhappy. They would be so depressed that their immune system would likely break down. The majority of zoos today are not the zoos of yesterday!!! If you by the way go to the Toronto Zoo be prepared for a LONG WALK, or take their rides to some areas and walk some of the areas. It is still a LONG WALK. The animals seem quite happy to me, and I am an animal Lover!!!
Peter in Edmonton
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If zoo=animal cruelty, then does poaching=natural selection?...think about it people;animals provide a way of life for many people.
Animals were put on this earth for us to enjoy, be it in the zoo or on the dinner plate! "
Oh don't start with the bible stuff already. They weren't put on Earth for us any more than women were put on Earth as property or we have the God-given right to kill our children if they disobey. Please come down to Earth. Thx.
Stop the zoos. We don't need 'em. They serve zero purpose - Children do not learn a thing about an animal by watching it caged. Yes the people who care for these animals are skilled and caring and they do the best they can but it's fundimentally wrong and we all know it.
Sahib Reginawale
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Jay from Ontario
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Marchois
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Re a comment on zoos are better than circuses. Only sometimes...circus animals usually recive much more stimulus than those in zoos. Stress, in mild doses, is not a bad thing.
Karen
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all the same
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Bill (Ashern, MB)
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Animals were put on this earth for us to enjoy, be it in the zoo or on the dinner plate!
kate
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dghjlfygjkgla
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Cara H
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Humans are superior to other animals - if it was the other way around, some other creature would be the one with a civilization and we'd be in some cage, and they'd be eating us for dinner instead of humans eating other animals. Whether you subscribe to Darwin's evolution theory or literally believe in the Bible, the simple fact is that humans are superior to other animals in every way.
Shelley
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Sean
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I was at the Markham Fair last year, and there I saw an elephant, tied up, being forced to walk in 10 foot diameter circles while kids rode him for $5 a pop. I thought I had gone back in time 80 years, to the golden age of animal exploitation.
The "elephant handler" was some carny kid that looked to be between 16 and 20 years old.. oh, but I'm sure he has a thorough background and education suitable for handling elephants.
At least zoos have staff and finances dedicated to keeping the animals healthy. I have to say, though, that zoos are not always champions of animal rights.. they are still for-profit organizations using animals as entertainment.
Mary Ellen Skinner
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Jay
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I find it funny that people critize the zoos, and yet will go home to their own pet. Get a grip people....
Get rid of ALL zoos
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Brenda C
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One I agree that animals are not for our entertainment but if the animal can not survive in its natural environment Zoos or Animal Parks with proper living areas for them are great if they have the properly trained personal to look after them.
On the other side of the coin I haven't seen a caged area in any zoo or animal park that really gives the animals lots of room to roam like they would in the wild. I have seen some parks where the animals have lots of room and you must stay in your vehicle with the window closed as you slowly make your way through the area -- these parks have hundreds of acres of land available to the animals and are maintained as if they were out in their natural habitat. This also helps with keeping animals from becoming extinct.
Yes children know about dinosaurs, etc but the excitement and wonder when they see elephants or any other animal for the first time is a sight to behold.
Before Bob Barker or any other celeb speaks maybe they should check things out in person for themselves and get the right facts.
Bob is a wonderful person and has done a lot for the protection of animals and animal rights and more people should be involved but do so in a respectful and informed way.
by the way no animal should be left to their own company and need the company of their own kind. Would you like to be caged up by yourself with no other human to talk, play, interact with??????
David Dods
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Anne
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lulu
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Roger T
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Liberty to all creatures man and animals.
Dave
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Bob should simply go back to his plush malibu mansion and crawl back under the silk sheet where he came from.
Kelly
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Let's face it - zoo's generate revenue and money is what makes this world go round! Get Lucy a friend and find a new "cause".
Sean in Eastern Ont
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Bob Barker wants Lucy to be sent to a sanctuary (not in the wild). There she can be with other elephants and not be in any danger. I'm not a big animals rights person but I do believe this isn't healthy for any animal to live in these conditions.
Doug BC
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Well,that was then.This is now.People today would have no interest in animals if it hadn't been for having access to them.And zoos do a lot to give people the kind of access that tweaks their interst.
How many species would be extinct today if it wasn't for the intervention of people who cared? If we simply let nature take it's course,the overpopulation of this planet by man would see no wild animals left almost anywhere.Leaving all of them to fend for themselves in the wild would be a death sentence for the entire species.Their habitat is over run by man,and the same "old days" mentality some wnat for the animals still sees people hunting them to the brink of extinction by people who are fighting for survival themselves.
Zoos aren't the magic solution here.But they do a lot of good.They do need to be high quality facilities and closely monitored.But they have a valuable role to play.
In the days when all animals roamed freely all over the place,man also ran freely,and killed these animal for his,or his families benefit.In the wild most of these elephants would have been slaughtered a long time ago just so someone could build a piano or some jewelery.
As long as we keep some of them alive,even if it is in a zoo,they will be free again after the human species is gone.
zoo = prison for animals
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How would you like to live in a prison just to satisfy someone curiousity?
Shameful for us to create the prisons! If you have deep appreciation for animals you would close all these zoos and set them free.
Kimberly from Toronto
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CYL
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Scott
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Krystal Rushton Nova Scotia Canada
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As a Nova Scotian, pure Canadian and animal lover at heart, I agree that Lucy should be sent to a sanctuary where she can live out the rest of her life with others like her. I have never been to the Vally zoo, but have been to two in Ontario,and I am not fully saying that the Vally Zoo is a despicable place and should be criticized for all that has been done but in the end a zoo is no place for an elephant, especially a single elephant, no matter how much is done to make her feel, physically and mentally, better.
I hope that all zoos consider the hearts of the elephants in their care, and give them back what is their right. Even in this smallest measure.
"Hannah's Dream" by. Diane Hammond, is a wonderful book, it shows that no matter what a trainer and/or keeper do to help the animals in their care happy and healthy, they still long for something better. I suggest to everyone, read this book no matter how you feel on this issue...it is very moving.
Wayne
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under the overpass
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Mik L
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Barker should also know that one of the top zoos in the United States, the Smithsonian National Zoo in Washington DC, is currently building a huge NEW elephant exhibit, which will allow their elephants to roam freely over a wide space. Why didn't Barker mention this zoo when he listed "major zoos" without elephants?
Gail (Hamilton)
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Ed L
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While we humans were awed by the spectacles, quite frankly, we agreed that, if we had been the animals, we would much rather have lived in a modern zoo, with an ample supply of nourishment and safety. Just as almost all of us humans have chosen to no longer live in the supposed freedom of the wild.
I Love Lucy!
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Phillip
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And send the animals back to their "natural" habitat to be shot be either shot by some poacher or die of starvation as their only source of food is destroyed to make way for progress.
Eileen25
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Zoo=animal slavery
Michel (Ottawa)
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Red X
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Barker is simply using his celebrity to draw attention to this animal.
Christine in SK
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Kee-lo
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Mike
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Tracye
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tim
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janice
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duck
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Bob Barker should stay in his plush home and but out.
Rob
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Mary Ellen Skinner
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Mandosa in Sarnia, Ontario
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Joanne from Barrie
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I have been to the Toronto zoo, twice (against my better judgment), but my kids wanted to go. The two times that I went was in July. You know, there is something heartbreaking about seeing a Polar Bear lying on the rocks, in 35 degree C heat, unable to move due to the heat.
I am no animal specialist, nor an expert by any means, but I do, however, have a heart, and mine breaks every time I go there.
Animals should live in the enviroment that they were intended. I know that some will come back with the "ya, but what about hunters, urban living, yada yada yada", but I think that if the animals are to die off, due to whatever, then that is the cycle of mother nature. Let things be.
Marine Land is another one, can you imagine stuffing a whale into a swimming pool and making it do tricks. How insane is that?? Do we not all agree that a whale, dolphin, etc should be with their families in the ocean?
Just my humble opinion, for what its worth.
Carl of the North
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T.L.
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Kris D.
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Bob Barker has dedicated more years to studying animals and defending their rights then you could ever imagine. When he speaks on this issue, he knows what he's talking about.
Personally, I never visit zoos (aka jails for wild animals).
Charmaine
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Julie
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These animals had freedom once and able to live their lives in the wild, until MAN thought it would be cool and educational for people to see them upclose and personal. BUY A BOOK and you can see the images in their....go on an African Safary if you want to see them live....
I know I wouldn't want to be held captive.
dan
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Brenda
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Zoos=animal slavery.
Brian
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Bob barker should just keep his comments to him self.In matters of zoo animals should we take advise from a animal expert or a former game show host.
Jennifer
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