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Harper calls Liberal policies 'untested schemes'

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Date: Mon. Sep. 8 2008 4:20 PM ET

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper said Canadians have a clear choice in the upcoming election between his party's "sensible balance" approach to governing and the Liberals' "untested schemes."

Harper, speaking during a campaign stop in Richmond, B.C., said the Tory campaign will be based around "affordable promises."

"We cannot, we will not, get into a bidding war with the opposition," said Harper. "That is a fundamental choice in this campaign -- do we stay the course or do we go back to an agenda of tax and spend."

He said Canadians would risk their "standard of living with expensive, ill-defined, untested schemes" if they elected the Liberals.

"They've made it clear that they favour a higher GST (and) they promised to scrap the $100 per month -- $1,200 per year -- child care benefit," said Harper.

He also banged away at the Liberals' carbon tax policy.

"They're asking Canadians to sign up for a permanent new category of taxation -- the carbon tax," said Harper.

He said it was "a tax that Canadians will pay on tax, on top of all of the taxes they already pay, on top of sales taxes, income taxes, investment taxes, business taxes and every other fee, charge or premium levied by governments."

Earlier Monday, the Tories unveiled new attack ads saying the Liberal policies will hurt all Canadians and punish the middle class.

One of the ads shows Liberal Leader Stephane Dion's face spinning on a slot machine and says his carbon tax plan will mean higher gas prices, higher electricity rates and higher grocery bills for Canadians.

"Can you afford higher everything?" asks the announcer.

Dion responds

During a campaign stop in St. Lambert, Que., Dion accused Harper of spreading lies about the policies of the Liberal Party.

He said the Tories are lying when they say the Liberals would raise the GST and cut the child care payment.

"They are piling their lies upon lies," said Dion. "They are unable to stop to lie."

Dion also said Harper called an election because he was scared of losing upcoming byelections and of scandals being exposed in his government.

He said Harper was also scared about the direction of the economy.

"His direction is a recession, his direction is a deficit," Dion told reporters. "His direction is a mess that he's giving to this economy."

Dion said the Tories have no plan for the economy and that their record is one of failure.

"Only us as Liberals know exactly how to manage the economy," he said.

The Liberals also issued a press release Monday calling on Harper to "publicly commit that his party will not use the same spending scheme that Canada's Elections Commissioner is currently investigating from the last election."

Canada's elections watchdog is trying to determine if the Tories broke regulations in the way they paid for local and national advertising.

In a letter sent to the prime minister yesterday, Dion urged Harper "to publicly pledge to refrain from repeating any of these suspect financial practices in the spirit of democratic fairness during the writ period."

Meanwhile, NDP Leader Jack Layton was in the Northwest Territories Monday saying he wants to shut down further expansion of Alberta's tar-sands development.

Layton, who will later go to Vancouver, also promised to force big oil companies to clean up and reclaim land used for petroleum production.

Speaking to CTV's Canada AM on Monday, Layton said his campaign will focus on issues that affect Canadians such as the rising price of gas and post-secondary education.

"The issues that people deal with at the kitchen table with their families... are the ones that I think Parliament should be debating right now," he said.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May camapaigned in Ottawa, visiting a soup kitchen as a backdrop to talk about poverty.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Johnny Ramsoda
said

Hey,cry-baby Liberals, I have two words for you---HIDDEN AGENDA. Remember that from the last two elections? You tried to tar Mr. Harper with that label without a single shred of evidence to back up your claim. That's what I call a negative ad!

How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot? I say what goes around comes around. Notwithstanding the fact that the COn ads are not really personal attacks anyway as so many have already pointed out.

As for Mr. Harper breaking his promise,I distinctly remember Jean Chretian's barefaced lie that he would elinate the GST. Then after the election he acted as if he never said it. Remember that? Sheila Copps resigned over it but at least she showed a little integrity.

So, suck it up, and quit your snivelling.


Faisal
said

These attack ads are typical. For additional sleaze jut refer to the attacks on doctors, judges, Elections Canada, scientists and nuclear regulators by Harper and his band of lightweight ministers. Harper has no polices and a record of failure so he just attacks others. His idea of "vision" is to keep Canada's economy running on oil, just like it was 90 years ago, so that he can maintain his fringe base in Alberta. His solution to Ontario's economic woes is to have Flaherty tell people not to invest in Ontario until he calls an election and then he decides that he will help unemployed workers. Harper is on the record as saying that he has no sympathy for the unemployed because according to him, they are all lazy. If only everybody had an oil well in their backyard then they could build their economies on "hard work" i.e. turning oil spigots on.


Layton (not Jack) in Moncton
said

Please Canada, don't drink the Kool-Aid. These are not untried schemes; they have been working in Europe for years. I think that the CONs are using as many scare tactics as they can since they have no workable plan on the books themselves. Harper only called this election to avoid by-election loses... Open and Accessible government? What a joke, the CONs have gutted the power of any office or department that may oppose him or give the public access to information. Harper has led us to deficit, lower employment figures and now a sham election to escape the scandals that were about to plague him. This is the man who kicked Bill Casey from caucus for what? Standing up and demanding that the Prime Minister keep his promise to honour the Atlantic Accord. Throw the bum out!!


T in BC
said

Did I "expect a campaign where nobody attacks the policies of their opponents?"

Sadly no.

I cringed when I heard the word election. Here we go again, a bunch of politicians, who want to run our country, telling on each other about how the other person's ideas are lies or wrong or stupid.

Exhausting really.



Sick of Government
said

We need major change in this country...I'm sick of both the Liberals and Conservatives. Maybe its time to give NDP a chance. You can't deny the Liberals and the Conservatives have both screwed us up at one point. I have voted Liberal in Federal elections since I started voting, but I can't stand Dion and I will not ever vote Conservative. I frustrated with government all together. I thought they were supposed to work for the people. They all seem to be just working for themselves.


TheOracle
said

well you can add this to the list of reasons why I can't support Harper

He has threatened to stomp out of the televised debate if Ms May of the Grean party is allowed to participate

why not grow up a bit and let everyone have their say...

way to stifle democracy Mr Harper...


Harper = Bush, but less intelligent
said

Right! Dion is going to claw back all of the gifts that harper has "given" us. Sure, I also understand that Saddam Hussein had WMD and that he was behind 9/11. It's not surprising that we have harper aping Bush's political tactics because as Bush's last supporter on the planethe doesn't understand anything else.


JPM
said

These comments are quite a sounding board for Conservatives.........are you that insecure with your party, you have to tell us how great the party is.

The Conservatives have spent millions of dollars on ads, before the election and now during the elections. I know of many organizations that would have benefited from that money.
I would respect the Conservative party or any party much more if they had helped those who need help rather than tell me how bad Dion or how good Harper is. These virtues Canadians can figure out for themselves, it's not hard to do.

I am waiting for the day that Stephen "BUSH" Harper tells us his plan for the country..??????
The Liberal's Green Shift plan is a start, maybe not a good start but it is a start.

Or is Mr. Harper going to get Mr. Van Loon, Flaherty and Baird to rant nothingness in the House of Commons for another 3 or 4 years and call it governing the country.

I would love to see the NDP form the government but I will be satisfied with Official Opposition.

One peeve that gets me, both main parties talk about how much a family will save on their taxes come deductions or income tax, and these statements are based on a family income of 60,000 dollars, WAKE UP folks, there are many people out there who's combined income goes not even get close to that figure. Can they not be realistic.

Please tell ever one you know to vote, world wars were found to give us the freedom of choice, lets use it.


Randy
said

Harper has refused twice in his press conference to justify refusing to let candidates speak directly to the press. Hmm, what is Harper scared of. How do his candidates justify this to their constituents? Sad, really pathetic. This is Harper's idea of Democracy?


Josh
said

Hilarious. Now Con puppets are inventing "details" of the Liberal platform. Notice all the Con supporters making the exact same unsubstantiated claims? they probably have one guy making all the ame comments on this boar because i can't tell where the justification for their claims comes from. it's like Giulian cliaming that Democrats were uggesting that palin couldn't take care of her kida while being VP when nobodi in the Dem campaign said any such thing. Right-wingers have no morals. next they'll be settign parliament on fire and claiming that a soclialist revolution is afoot so that they can abolish freedom of the press and continue harper's dictatorship. i've never seen such a bunch of pathological liars in my life. Well - apart for Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, perle.


Mr. Harper should remain our Prime Minister
said

I view Mr. Harper for the most part, as a competent and determined individual. He is a natural confident leader. I’m pleased to have him represent our country at home and abroad. He articulates well and is not an embarrassment unlike other Prime Ministers abroad who couldn’t speak English or French properly. Mr. Harper has intelligence to spare unlike the opposition leader Stephane Dion who apparently now says he can’t hear properly and has trouble setting priorities. And despite Steven Harper’s cool manner (which I suspect is more shyness than anything else), he's a decent man who obviously loves his family and his country. There is something to be said for decency and integrity of a man dedicated to family and country.

I intend to place my support for our current Prime Minister. I like the direction he is taking Canada.






John-Kitchener
said

"He said Canadians would risk their "standard of living with expensive, ill-defined, untested schemes" if they elected the Liberals."


Mr. Harper, It was the Liberals who brought us to this high standard of living.



danny williams can kick your ass.
said

Has anyone seen the ad where Harper talks about what Canadian veterans died for? And what did they die for Stephen? According to you Maritimers are losers, Canada is a 2nd rate socialist state, you want a "firewall" built around Aleberta because you are hostile to central Canadas and you are incapable of saying in public that you love Canada. Amazing, we have a guy running for PM that doesn't even LIKE this country - and I'm not taliking about Duceppe (since he is running to be Opposition Leader). Why don't you just find yourself a ranch in Austin, Texas where you can live the life that you truly want right next door to your mentor, Dubya? Maybe then you can actually. You're an embarrassment to this country and to all Canadians - other than Albertans.


W T Brooks
said

Gee, Premier Campbell here in BC introduced a carbon tax...does this mean Harper thinks Campbell is going in the wrong direction too by trying to save the envirnonment?


non a les etats-unis
said

Stephen Harper hates Québec. This is why he entered into reform party. This because he was against distinct societe. He cuts arts in Québec because he wants quebecois to becom american. he will try to cut funding to Québec's infant care systeme because he hates social programmes. Québecois will see through his lies and vote for the bloc because they understand Québec value.


The Lakeman
said

We the people of Canada have within our grasp the power and intellect to obtain whatever results we want from our next federal election. We only have to remain vocal and very firm with our wishes. At no other time in Canadaian history will the peoples' wishes and desires be more closely monitored until October 14 so STAND UP FOR YOUR NEEDS.


J McArthur Saskatchewan
said

Regarding this "untested scheme"...I will be voting for the party that will do the most for the environment of Canada and the planet.

I know that gas and oil prices will continue to climb regardless of the economy. I know that it's going to cost more and more to heat my home, drive my car,etc. All of these coming increases will generate HUGE profits for the ELITE few in Big Oil/Gas business. And the buck stops there!!

I will be supporting the Liberals and the Green Shift because at least at the end of the day, regardless of the election outcome, I will have added my name to the list of Canadians who are willing to do their part for this beautiful country and planet.

Don't fool yourselves into believing that the Conservatives will do anything to stop these sky-rocketing costs of living.

At least with the Green Shift, some of that money will come back to me and I will be proud to stand up and say I'm willing to do MY part for this great and beautiful country.


Theresa Agnopolous
said

What's this about reducing the 100 bucks per month for child care. Aren't the liberals promising INCREASING child care funding? I have my two daughters in daycare and this 100 dolars per month is a joke! I want universal daycare rather than some Tory band aid and i certainly don't want cuts to tranfers to the provinces for education and health care like Stephen harper wants.


Cons are mudslinging goofs
said

Big surprise. Canada's neo-cons are resorting to George Bush campaign tactics because of their own utter lack of policy initiatives and the complete lack of any talent on their front or back benches. these bozos are a complete joke and an embarrassment to Canada. No wonder Europeans were openly laughing at the head clown when he toured Europe. people really take confodence in a loser who appoints an even bigger loser to the Foriegn Affairs post who hangs out with associates of pimps and heroin dealers.


Rob from B.C.
said

Lets analyze this $100.00 per month for children under 6 child care payment. Most people would like to stay home and raise their children when they are younger 1-6 years old. When they turn 6 and start school that frees up time for the parent who was a stay at home to go out and work part time, with before or after school care, but the Cons deem it the time to take away the child care payment when families really need it. Does not make sense to me and seems to be a waste of my money. Also $100.00 a month is a drop in a bucket worth for daycare payments. If they are going to try to help people step up to the plate and make it legitimate or don't bother. Spend the money somewhere else it can help.


S.A. in BC
said

As usual, the Cons are lying - making up storis of GST hikes and cild care crdit elimination. i don't ever recall any Liberal ever saying anything of the sort. he Cons are just trying to cover up the fact that they have mismanged our economy, done nothing about high gas prices and have plunged us back into deficit whil giving the average Canadian about 2 cases worth of beer per year in tax cuts.


Roger - Give them a try
said

Time for a Change - Its apparent that we will probably get another conservative minority - therefore we need to make a real change somewhere - it is time for all soft liberals to bolster the NDP ranks and give them official opposition- Liberals aren't used to it because of their Self proclaimed RIGHT to power - they don't know how to function in an opposition role - ITs time for the NDP to be given the mantle. It will free the liberals up during this process to focus on a new leader and a real platform.

Vote NDP as the opposition of choice


Apathetic in Winnipeg
said

The lack of honesty and integrity in Canada’s political parties has left me apathetic. Once a liberal turn NDP supporter, I refuse to further buy into their poorly disguised, holier than thou / savior of the people attitudes. On the other hand, I have never cared for the Conservatives either. I am strongly considering ceasing my right to vote as I find myself questioning “What’s the point?” However, Mr. Harper is surely the best Conservative leader of my 30 year lifetime and I do not feel wronged by his government thus far. Should I decide any party is worthy of my vote, Stephen will surely get the nod!


Annie
said

Has anyone noticed that all Mr. Dion has done is attack PM Harper? He has said nothing else. Just an observation that says a lot about the character of Mr. Dion.


Ki-Som Victoria BC
said

I rather have "untested schemes" then have a bully leader that says one thing then does something completely different. Like saying you are going to have fixed elections then call one.


tired of the same old, in Alberta
said

I find it amusing how the first story about the Liberals today is how poor Dion is being attacked by Harper. and the first Conservative story is negative....hmm...I guess nothing has changed with the this media's spin on things. same old, same old. next we are going to hear how those scary Conservatives with their hidden agenda are going to win a majority and ruin the country...scaring the disgruntled and undecided urban liberals back to their rediculous party with their rediculous leader. makes me sick. Wouldn't it be nice to have a truely NATIONAL media.


CC-western Canada
said

The fact that so many Liberals are saying these ads are personal attack ads, shows just how scared they are. To not even be honest about the difference between personal ads and policy ads shows complete desperation. Saying Harper lied about this makes me laugh. Dion is not and never will be PM. I would not want to be the leader that picks up the pieces Dion will leave the Liberal party in. After this election they will be close to bankruptcy. They can barely get off the ground now, have two law suits against them, and debt from previous leadership races. Sorry socialists....the party is long over, and Canada as a whole will be better for it...

JD in Alberta
said

To 531111,
Are you for real?? How do you think are military is supposed to defend Canada, and do peacekeeping duties without equipment?? I was in the military when Chrétien and his cronies gutted our funding. I know first hand how pathetic it was to have to use duct tape to hold your weapon together, or to drive an Iltis in a snow storm with no windshield wipers or brakes. It's Mr. Harper and the Conservatives that have shown that our military needs and deserves this equipment. Ya we need higher taxes and military funding cuts from Dion. You don't want a military here in Canada, move somewhere else. I here Greenland is nice.

And Steve, about the daycare issue; why is it up to the government, to provide Universal daycare? I raised three kids by myself with no assistance from the government, except for child tax credit. It's called sacrifice. Sorry but if people choose to have kids it's up to them to provide for them. If that 1200.00 a year doesn't help mail it back to Ottawa. Just because we are Canadian, doesn't mean we are entitled to get everything for nothing.



bunny
said

I just don't want another tax. In our line of work, even with these funny rebates that Dion has mentioned, it would not cover the tax he bringing in. I thought a small business would get help, not hurt them


Curtis - Calgary
said

I don't have a problem with the ads that have been described so far.
These are ads which criticize the Liberal parties policies not the people themselves. There is a significant difference.


Buba
said

"We cannot, we will not, get into a bidding war with the opposition," said Harper. "That is a fundamental choice in this campaign -- do we stay the course or do we go back to an agenda of tax and spend."


What about the $8.8 billion he spent in the last 3 months to buy our votes with our tax dollars?


DM
said

To all you loyal Liberals: Remember Mr Chretien saying categorically that he will kill the GST. The only thing he killed was the helicopter deal that cost Canadians $500 million dollars, and many years of additional costs and lives while we still wait for new helicopters. The Liberals may have changed leaders but like the leopard they have not changed their spots. A liberal government is like the proverbial banker with one hand in your pocket.


Ted
said

What a liar Harper is. He attacks Libs 'tax and spend' approach and yet he's spending us into a deficit and recession on mostly porkbarrel items.


Marie
said

Mike; Dion never said he would hike the GST so quit putting words in his mouth. Mr. Harper had better be able to prove when & where he said he would raise the GST because he will be called on it & it just might be Canadian voters that do. I would also suggest that the Cons read the Carbon Tax plan with an open mind & quit putting in words that aren't there because they want the public to think that way. If anyone thinks that Harper's plan won't cost us anything, I have ocean front property to sell you in Nevada.


S
said

Although there aren't any good parties to vote for, The Conservatives are the worse possible choice for this country. Harper is a two-faced liar who simply keeps on breaking his own promises. By having Harper as a PM, we can ensure that Canada will become little USA in no time.... Let's lose our identity and what makes us canadian!!! Let's elect Bush 2 into parliament!


maggie c
said

Mr. Dion should do his campaign trail via a prairie schooner, pulled by mules.

GO STEVE HARPER.


Lillian
said

Piper--- These are NOT taxpayers dollars that are being spent in the ads. This money ,in all parties, comes from individuals who support a particular party. I repeat ,it is not taxpayers money. I for one, am glad to support financially, in this campaign, a real leader for a change. Go Harper!


Paul Kennedy
said

I believe it's wiser to risk idealistic ideas from liberal 'supporters', within a stable Conservative-managed country. Then these ideas (until they are validated) can be bred and nourished by such strong national provision. A poor person with dreams needs such a foundation of building blocks to work from.


Marcel
said

Mr. Harper does not want to seem to talk about his own record. If all he wants to do, is criticize Mr. Dion but not want to speak about his party, it is because he has nothing better to offer. Thank you


Get your facts straight!!
said

To "We know who pays for Strategic Counsel Polls"

It may come as a surprise to you but the Stategic Counsel's Mr. Donolo was Chretien's right hand man so it is hardly a Tory plot you falsely try to portray.

You Liberals are running scared based on the outlandish and foolish statements you guys are making about our Prime Minister today.

The real hidden agenda is the socialist welfare agenda the Liberals have which they want to take this country backward to a welfare state.

I suggest the Liberals disband and become NDP that way they could at least be honest to Canadians about their real socialistic plans.



Brett (Vancouver)
said

The Conservatives are attacking the policies of Dion, not Dion himself. They are also noting his lack of leadership, because he chose to not work for the last two years and abstain from votes. Not serving the people who you represent is not leadership.

Seriously, did you expect a campaign where nobody attacks the policies of their opponents? Attacking policy is different then personal attacks.
For instance, the Fiberals attacking Harper as some scary dude with a hidden agenda (yawn), thats a personal negative attack ad.


P. Bach
said

I think Mr.Dion is a very sincere, honest and intellectual man; and these are good qualities to be a leader of a country; I'll vote for Mr.Dion for a very first without hesitation. Canadian should never be fooled by the conservatives'ad.


bj
said

Here's a question for Mr Dion and his Liberals - "If your Green Shift is simply a program to curb harmful greenhouse emissions by realigning taxation/penalties and creating a new 'green economy', then what are the programs that you plan to introduce to accomplish this? What are the actual cuts in emissions that the Green Shift will result in? Where and who is going to pay for these new 'green' technolgies? Better yet, what are these new technologies and what is their impact on our economy and the environment?
Before the Liberals jump on the bandwagon of 'Scary Conservatives with Hidden Agendas,' they may want to provide some specifics on their own policies - and no Canadians won't buy that the Green Shift is a work in progress with details to follow. Canadians for too long have heard the Liberals on the campaign trail with their rhetoric and policy 'fluff' only to find out later what it actually means for Canadians - oh and for those that have forgot, it has never worked in our favour!


Less than impressed
said

I'm not too much into politics but I have been monitoring the news somewhat and from what I've seen the Liberal are alway badgering the Conservatives or trying to find ways make any kind of decision making as hard as possible. I know it's the opposition's job to keep the gernerning party in check but it doesn't mean that they have to make it disfunctional... it might be a tactic on their part to force an election or try to get back into power by any means possible, either way, I am less than imressed with their leader and even less with their track record.


Bernard
said

Again more lies from the conservative spinners.

Dion has said he wont increase the GST or remove the childcare benefit.

Stephen Harper lies /half truths with a strait face ... TRULY SCARY

"no change to income trusts (but maybe we'll make some changes after all"

"fixed election dates (except when the PM says it's OK... hey it's a minority parliament it doesn't apply ... yeah that's it)"

"ministers must be elected not appointed (except when the PM says it's OK) "

"I don't bribe MPs (expect when it includes financial considerations)"

Sounds to me like Animal Farm - a parody of the Marxist revolution from the soviet era. Isn't this the road to Totalitarian rule? Now who's more socialist.




JPC
said

He's not attacking Dion but his party's policies. There's a big difference in the Liberals attacking Harper himself and Harper going after the Liberal election platform.


Taylor
said

I wish there was a ballot that I could check that would read:
PC
Liberal
NDP
None of the above.

I think the players would get the point. I don't think there is a real choice.




Graeme
said

I don't think the main issue here is whether or not Harper's adds are "attack ads', rather that he is misrepresenting the Liberal policies. What disturbs me most is the attitude of so many Canadian "sheep" who blindly believe everything that the Conservatives spew without question. The Conservative decision on Income Trusts cost me more than a Carbon tax will (we already have one in BC), and their childcare policy has had a devastating effect on my family. The $100/month was just absorbed by daycare providers as a "price increase", and there are no part time daycare spots available anymore. Once your kids are in school, you no longer get the $100, but the daycare costs remain the same. Conservative supporters can't see this, or are they just blindly spouting off the Conservative lies? I think it would be a bitter justice to see these Rah, Rah Harperites experience the economic meltdown that Harpers Neo-Con, American style government will lead us into. where will the foodbanks and social safety net be then?


Canuck in Bellingham WA
said

Let me clarify my earlier comment. Taking a surplus and turning it into a minor deficit by cutting taxes is reasonable governance.
Personally I disagree with it but that does not make it an outrageous alternative.
Everyone tends to think the tax burdon should be more on others shoulders. The poor think the rich should pay more taxes, the wealthy think that excessive taxation stifles the economy and cost jobs , making the situation worse for the poor.

My personal opinion is that the middle class have to have discretionary spendable income for the economy to work well. I think taxation levels in Canada are about right for the rich.

The US is seeing the results of undertaxing the wealthy and running massive deficits.


Gerry Carriere, Acton, Ont.
said

I have heard Stephane Dion mention many times, including today, that Candaians will pay 10% less in taxes under his "Green Shift" plan. Can anyone tell me what this means exactly? Is he stating that personal income taxes will be reduced by 10% or are there other things in play. I have not been able to find this information anywhere, just that taxes will be reduced to offset the carbon tax but not specifically by how much. To me, this is a very important question that needs to be answered.


What are they smoking?
said

To Jimmy B, who wrote: "The fact of the matter is, the Liberals have very little to attack Harper about."

* stated that members should not be allowed to cross the floor unless they resign and get re-elected, then AS HIS FIRST ACT gets a Liberal to cross the floor by dangling a cabinet appointment

* promised more accountability but has gone out of his way to make access to information more difficuly and tightly controls every word uttered by a party member

* broke promises re gas tax, income trusts, impact of non-renewable resources on transfer payments, and his own fixed election date law (to name a few)

* Has wiped out the budget surpluses and is in serious danger of going back to deficits (we're probably already there with Flaherty keeping the books; the Ont Tories claimed a surplus just before we turfed them, But the Liberals discovered - much to their chagrin - that the number the Tories reported as surplus was actually how much we were in deficit)

* no genuine plan to deal with the environment beyond sticking their heads in the (oil)sand

- I could go on, but they'd probably never post an entry long enough to cover everything...


Daniel
said

Attack ads, lies and more lies. This is what we have come to expect from our politicians, what ever their stripe. Can we focus on issues?

We have the hot button issues such as the price of gas and what ever scandal is being talked about now. Old favourites such as health care and the economy vie for attention.

When do we discuss the long term? When do we talk about the future in other then esoteric terms? We have spoke about the need for better access to Post Secondary education, I think we need to refocus on the beginning. Better education for our kids to start and continue to build on it with improvements to our whole system. We should approach it the same way as we should approach health care, think prevention rather then reaction.

Take that thought process to the environment, the economy and so on. Expect better and perhaps one day we will get better politicians



Greg in the Hammer
said

I'm not suprised at the number of posts here crying about the money we have spent on military purchases since the Conservatives came to power. Sadly if past governments had taken the issues of our sovereignty and protection of Canadian citizens abroad, and the protection of Canadian interests abroad and global security, more seriously and properly funded the military and Coast Guard and CSIS we would be making more modest purchases over a longer period instead of trying to play catchup.

Every single purchase that has been made has been made out of necessity.

You don't bring a knife to a gun fight. You bring a bigger gun than the other guy and hopefully you don't have to use it.

I am astonished at the general lack of understanding by many Canadians of how a strong defence policy and foreign policy work hand in hand.

For those of you that think we DON'T NEED a strong military...... stop complaining about the US then. Because if you don't want your own government to defend your liberty then we need the Americans to and then sooner or later we'll all just end up as Americans.


I don't have kids
said

I brought up two children without government help.

My children have two of their own.

My inlaws are eastcoasters from families of nearly 30 and they were brought up without government help. There was none in the 20's and 30's

With all due respect, stop looking for hand-outs from the Liberals and stand up and take care of yourselves.

P.S WHen I started out my wife and I didn't have a penny to buy a couch or chair for our apartment.

We had enough pride to move out at 20 though.

Thankfully, like my wife and I, our children - -now in their 20's are far too proud to look for handouts and wouldn't even take government assistance if it was given to them.

While there are those that need help, and they can have my money whenever they need it, pating for everyones day care is just stupid.

Besides I don't have enough money to pay for everyone, I My Wife and I starved so we could afford it for our kids.

She worked for nearly 5 years for almost nothing but pension and health care benefits.

I'm not inclined to make it easier for the next generation.

They already have it too easy.........



Keith
said

Just yesterday, Harper was on Question Period saying that the Tories would NOT use attack ads. You'd think he could at least keep his word for TWENTY-FOUR HOURS!!??

Supposedly, this election was called (in contravention of the Conservatives' own law) because Parliament had become dysfunctional and had lost confidence. Well, since it was the Conservatives who were causing most of the dysfunction, and (without a vote of non-confidence) it appears that it is MR HARPER HIMSELF who lost confidence in his ability to govern, that we the electorate should grant him his wish and toss him out on his ear.


paul
said

Pierre Trudeau near broke this country with his wild experiments with the economy,(socialism, nep, etc.)and its only been recently that we have recovered to a point where we, as a country can look forward again. Dion's plan,(experiment)for the economy is even more dangerous than Trudeau's. I have no desire to have my children and grandchildren subjected to Liberal experimentation ever again. Go Harper.


Aburton
said

The ads about Dion are definitely correct, but you also have to look at who is putting them out there. These ads do nothing but make Stephen Harper look desperate. Forget about the liberals and the tories. Vote in Jack Layton. Maybe he'll actually be honest and make a change in our government for the better.


T in BC
said

Ok so Steven Harper isn't doing a "personal" attack by saying something like, Dion has a big nose and his mother wears army boots. When are any of the candidates attacks "personal" then?

Nice the way he slipped in the word "personal" so that he could weasle out of that one and still attack the other candidates "policies" giving us the impression he wouldn't be doing attacks like the other candidates do!

I just wish they could ALL be more grown up and give their views for what they will DO for us instead of attacking each other by singling each other out and saying the other candidate is lying or all wrong and this is how.

Well HE said this... well, well, HE said THIS.

Give me a break.

A smart, mature person (someone we could trust to run our country) would be able to do make his point without ever singling anyone out with a blatant immature attack.

Ads with slot machines with the apponent's face on it? Ya. Right. That's mature. (sarcasm)

Tell us what YOU can do for us, candidates!!! Stop bickering and GROW UP!


Concerned Citizen
said

My vote for Harper or Conservaties NO NO NO NO NO
Higher gas prices? We are paying higher gas prices everyday in Harper's regime, and he has not done anything till now to address this issue, and he claims the other party will increase the prices. RIDICULOUS ATROCIOUS.
Don't get me wrong I'm with neither party. We get a chance once in 4 or 5 years to choose a leader for the country and hand him or her over to the big companies, and they will ensure how the policies are set. The leaders are just plain powerless in front of the big companies.


Jenny
said

I agree that "Please get through your attack ads and get down to policy ads, so that I can make an informed decision".


Mike R.
said

i think Harper painted himself into a corner when he made C-16. On one hand we are supposed to get fixed election dates, but on the other hand, parliament is pretty much at a standstill.

Me, i would've ran through every piece of legislation i could until the libs got off their butts and called an election.

Some accuse Harper of being a dictator, far from it. If the opposition had been doing it's job and not abstaining from voting, Harper wouldn't have had the free reign he did.

The world is run by those who show up, if you don't vote - whether it be by election or your sworn duty as MP, then don't complain when things get done without you.


Robert
said

The time for change is now, the Conservatives are not progressive in any sense. The attack ads are quite wrong by the Conservatives, on October 14th, vote Liberal and do not split the left vote!!!!!!


Canada Fate is clear now!
said

After reading many comments by Canadians, I think I understand it now that fate of Canada is clear more than ever. It appear that we want to become American.


joe
said

All you voters out there! If you want to vote properly, why don't you get the parties to state their platforms versus all the hearsay that is coming out. I keep hearing the Conservatives talk about how bad the Liberal platform is. Why don't they stick to explaining their platform and showing confidence in it so voters can vote for it. I guess they don't have confidence in it. You are going to tell me that any party is going to talk positively about another party?? Doubt it. So inform yourself by reading the party's platform.


David
said

We Chinese Canadian will never vote for Mr. Harper. Stephen Harper does not like Chinese people for his personal reason. Mr. Harper has insulted China many times in the past where his minister Emerson frequently had to repair relationship.

As a PM representing Canada, he has also acted improperly by robbing Chinese Canadian of their proudest moment by abstaining from the Beijing Olympic Opening Ceremony. Even the U.S., French, and British have publicly embraced China’s “coming out to the world”.

We Chinese Canadian will not forget Stephen Harper’s continuous insults to China and by extension to all Chinese Canadian. Stephen Harper is not fit to become our PM.



discerning voter
said

The tories don't need to discredit the Liberal policies- they are doing a good job of it on their own.
Anyone who thinks that higher taxes will somehow make us all green is dreaming in technicolor.
Remember everything that we consume moved to the store in a truck - if we tax everything we will all end up paying in the end.
When was the last time that a so called tax credit actually made it back to the ones who needed the help.
Never happened in my life time.
Go Steve Go -Let's see a majority - Put all the whining left wingers in the margins for a good long time.
Let's see the press start praising the Tories for beefing up the forces and giving tax breaks to real people- No more corporate handouts!!!


Piper
said

The ads are not true. This is the Tory way. They will spend millions of our dollars to try and convince us what the other parties are doing wrong so that they don't have to tell us what they will do right. It's called bullying everyone. School yard politics. The Liberals have always cleaned up after the Tories run us to the ground. How soon you all forget. Don't wait until we are there again before doing the right thing.


Dave from Ontario
said

To Cindy J.
I am totally in agreement with you. I don't think either party Conservitive, or Liberal see what is happening in this country, with the manufacturing jobs leaving the country daily, for Asia, or Mexico, or even worse the US. How can we be expected to carry the tax load when our decent paying jobs are being allowed to leave without anyone taking responsibility for the fallout, of unemployment and shattered dreams. They need to wake up. I was a Liberal, but now I will vote NDP, in a hope that niether the Conservitives or the Liberals will be able to form a majority.


N
said

Please, the only reason why (it seems to me) so many like the Conservatives and their "record" the last few years is because they only have a MINORITY. You think it will be this good if they have a majority? This is why minority governments are best, regardless of who is in "power", they have to be accountable, and they won't sit on their behinds for 4 years. If they do, we all know what to do for the next election...


Gus - Red Deer AB
said

The concentration of the media on Mr. Dion's "language difficulties" is very unprofessional. If they are going to question his English language skills, perhaps they should question Mr. Harper's French language skills. I'm sure the Francophones would agree his french is on par with Mr. Dion's english. Learning to work in a second language is difficult. Kudos to both Mr. Dion and Mr. Harper for representing both of Canada's official languages and the effort it takes to be bi-lingual.


go Canada
said

I read another artical about how some Canadians are more interested in the American election. This saddens me. I accept the reality.
I'm hoping that Harper gets another minority, and I know he will quit or be forced to quit.
Dion does not win, he will be forced to quit. Jack, well, he is an over pompous delusional leader. He will not form the govt. He will quit or be forced to quit.
My dream is to have a country moving forward with better politics of substance and passion for Canada. These past 25 years they have been tiresome and rehashing of people who just do not know when to leave.
I also hope that the set date for elections will be kept. The best policy the conservative made. They had to break it.


Brent
said

I have to give Paul Martin credit for understanding the Canadian economy but he's left politics.
Dion and Rae handling things during difficult economic times? Rae already did that in Ontario 90-95.
I dread to think.


John (aka I'm passing on this vote)
said

They're all alike. Liberals, Conservatives, etc. After these guys Lawyer are starting to look warm and fuzzy. Does anyone out there feel like they are being manipulated. Well attack ads work, because we are easily lead. Well not me, not anymore. I'm fed up and not going to take it any more. I'm going to pass on this one as my own protest that I can't trust any politician. They say "I'll have fixed dates so the ruling party can't manipulate the situation." Now we have an election outside that date. "I won't touch the income trust." It was touched. "I won't get into the gutter and have attack ads" Well welcome the pit bulls to the gutter. It goes on and on. The Liberals will increase the GST.... Hidden agenda? Who gave us the GST to start with? The Liberal were going to do away with the GST; however, we still have one. The Liberals, the Alliance, the PCs, the Reform, the Conservatives are all painted with the same brush. I PROTEST AND REFUSE TO SUPPORT ANY OF THESE PARTIES!


Gayle from Edmonton
said

"Am I missing something? How is "plans to increase the GST, take the $1,200 child care payment away from parents, and impose a permanent new carbon tax," a personal attack? sounds like a policy attack to me."

It is an attack ad if it isn't true - and it's not.

The fact you accept it as true demonstrates that it is, in fact, an attack ad.

See?




EricB
said

It's only an attack ad if you don't agree with it.


Steve
said

97 DEAD CANADIANS not even an election issue.A high price to pay to appease the Bush administration.I wonder if Consevative MPs had to do 1 tour of duty on the front lines, we would still be there. Bring the soldiers home its time.


Josh
said

We need to stop Mr. Harper's intention for his party to win a majority. He cannot be trusted! He said he would have the election by 2009 but he ate his words! This election is just unnessary. When so many people struggle to find jobs while he quits. He should say that if he cannot win a majority he will quit for ever!


Doug BC
said

We may not like negative ads,but they have always been part of an election campaign,and studies indicate they do work.Those offended by them should be grateful that our version of "hardball poitics" pales by comparison to those south of the border.
Like "concerned voter",I would like to see a less partisan parliament that can work across party lines to actually resolve some things.
I do not,however,hold out hope for a united Canada any time soon.There are flawss in both of the major parties platforms that make unity an impossible dream.
Liberals,who have always supprted the notion of a very stong cntral government simply are unwilling to make amendments that make that allow the west to be an active participant.Senate reform is on example,as is the failed N.E.P..So,under their vision,a united Canada is one in which Ontario gets to be the boss.
Conservatives,on the other hand,continue down the road of more rights for regions and provinces.This seems to be at the bequest of the premiers.By allowing Quebec more control over parts of it's province,premiers of other provinces demanded equal rights.I don't see that as unreasonable,but it is leading to bigger differences between regions.
I'm no Conservative,but I agree with Mr.Harper on one key issue.That of reducing the national debt and lowering taxes to create a competetive economy.There is no bigger threat to our unity or our sovereignty than regional squabbles over money,and an economy ham-strung by debt and overtaxed citizens dependent of "freebies" handed out by the government.
I believe economics will determine whether or not we remain united and a sovereign nation.


RJS in Saskatoon
said

The Conservatives "Turning the Corner Action Plan" on climate change, will certainly add to the costs of large companies, who will in turn pass those costs to me, the consumer, and cause "higher cost of everything". There will be no offsetting income tax cuts because the Conservatives have already cut taxes to the limit of deficit. Then there's the cost of a force of "climate cops" who are subject to bribery to increase my taxes. I'll take Dion's plan.


Randy
said

jmrSudbury
31 Oct 2007 "The federal Liberals would consider rescinding the Conservative government's GST cuts if they come into power in the next election, Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion said on Wednesday."
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Dion has clarified that musing several times over the past year that he would absolutely not rescind the GST cuts if the Liberals came back into power.


political woman
said

The Harper Conservatives DO NOT HAVE an environmental or economic plan... we don't care about the family man (pulease stop!) propaganda stuff... we need strong leadership, intelligent planning, supported healthcare, social conscious action and economic foresight....


Randy
said

What I call a hidden agenda is the Conservative so called 'Turning the Corner' plan. They will tax every energy consumption bill you have at $65. a ton with no talk of tax rebate programs to offset these costs. How come no one is questioning that plan?


Quinte West
said

Mr. Harper is playing right out of the George Bush play book. Attack and nothing else. Everything is the fault of everyone but Mr. Harper and his Reform Party. Their only response is to lie about everyone and hope that the lies stick. Wake up Canada, he can not be trusted. Just remember the law on fixed elections. This is just the last flip flop from this Govt of transparency.

This is a PM who has put our country into deficit and began with the largest surplus ever two years ago. Hidden agenda? Mr. Harper is full of Hidden agendas.

WAKE UP CANADA!


Canuck in Bellingham Wa
said

Mostly the same opinions with no meat behind them. I have heard a few of the ads from the conservatives and mostly they make me think less of them, though I still support them.

I will not be voting because I live in the states, but i do hope Harper gets a majority, in spite of the obnoxious ads. Unfortunately they work with most of the sheep in the country.

With regards to the deficit vs surplus. Personally I like to see higher taxes and surpluses going against the deficit. Personally I consider this saving for a rainy day. The Libs get credit for having started this after that moron Mulroney. However they still deserve to pay for the sponsorship scandle and their kissing the butt of Quebec (though this is true of all the parties).

The US deficit has destroyed the value of their dollar.


Lowell
said

I distinctly remember hearing Stephen Harper say to Lloyd Robertson that he would not be running negative attack ads. Now right out of the starting gates, what do we see? an ad that discredits Dion. With Harper it is all about trust, integrity, keeping his word and having a true vision about Canada that is going to inspire and motivate people. Nothing of what Harper says sends that message to me. I and my family will be voting Dion. He is a man with a higher degree of humility and integrity. I would sooner take my chances on Dion than to let Harper continue on putting the country into debt and following his right wing policies.


Warren W
said

Harper said no personal attacks - he DID NOT say he wouldn't attack their policies, which are terrible.

The Carbon Tax, raising GST (which dion has publicly said he would do just last year) and 'wealth transfers' are guaranteed to kill our economy.

And voters deserve to know that.


Sid Morris
said

At present I am an undecided voter. Attack ads are part of politics, agree or not. What I need from all the parties is a list of their plans for Canada’s future. I would like to have an idea of what each party is going to do for health care, the economy, the environment, taxes, etc. It would be foolish of me to cast my vote on blind faith. Please get through your attack ads and get down to policy ads, so that I can make an informed decision. Thank you.


Ryan in Burlington
said

FYI, the Federal Government has little control over the price of crude oil.

The only way the Feds could lessen the price is if they dropped the per/L gas tax, or if they created large subsidies to off-set the gas prices to Canadian consumers. Bottom line: We Canadians are TAXED TOO MUCH for what we get in return, plain and simple.

So, next time you buy gas, take a long hard look at that little sticker on the pump and see where your money is REALLY going before you start to complain about gas prices or the companies themselves.

Oh yeah, GO HARPER!!! Give Dion, Jack, and the other socialists a run for their (dwindling) money!


Omer from Ontario
said

People, these are not personal attacks. An example of a personal attack would be when Dion attacked Harper for being overweight...Harper is pointing out policy differences which are key in this election. The Liberals have moved way tooe far to the left. Centrist-and centre-right Canada will definitely vote Conservative.


Bob, Calgary
said

This accusation by the Liberals that Harper is running us close to deficit is total hyperbole and shouldn't fool Canadians. The Conservatives have reduced the GST by 2% and provided other significant tax breaks. Essentially they are giving us back our own money that Liberals seemed to think they could just continue to take whenever they felt like it...Martin achieved his deficit elimination by downloading Federal problems to the provinces. He reduced provincial transfer payments and forced provinces to either reduce spending and thus services or raise taxes.The Liberals have always been masters of obfuscation and in their years of domination have significantly hurt this country. Now there is a Prime Minister who is much smarter than them,who is tough and makes decisions. If Canada returns to the Liberals we will face higher taxes,significant lack of productivity and innovation, more Western alienation, and a general malaise.It is time to give Stephan Harper a chance to properly run the country with a majority government. Let's see what he can do when unencumbered by the whining and delay tactices of the Libs and the Socialists.


jmrSudbury
said

31 Oct 2007 "The federal Liberals would consider rescinding the Conservative government's GST cuts if they come into power in the next election, Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion said on Wednesday."

John M Reynolds


Gary Gaulden
said

With the numbers of dead Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan increasing, maybe the parties should be just a little concerned about our troops... But why would they care? They have no personal commitment whatsoever, just more BS as always on real issues, and dead soldiers are an issue. It's maybe not as good an issue as giving the car companies money, but it should have some meaning somewhere in this election.



Randy
said

Robert White
Am I missing something?
---------------
Yes Robert you are missing the fact that this is a blatant lie by the Conservatives. Dion & the Liberals have stated several times that they will not be raising the GST back to where it was. Once again the lies come forth like a flood.


CWS
said

How can it be an "attack ad" when it is true. It seems it is the Liberals with the hidden adgenda!!. Don't forget Trudeau and his National Energy Policy.


RRO
said

I don't respect anything Michael Ignatieff says anymore. He accuses Stephen Harper of being an American lap dog but if you read his books, one of them praises the role and points out the necessity of American Empire.

Everyone is talking about how close to deficit we are. It means the budget is balanced. Spending = Income. So Canadians are not being overtaxed so the Liberals at election time can say how big a surplus they have and spend the election giving us back our money in the form of massive new government programs that don't work.

Dion calls the Green Shift a work in progress. Isn't that what Anne McLellan called the Gun Registry? That was a program that was supposed to cost two million but it cost two billion and didn't work. So the green shift ( I laugh when I call it that because it makes me think that they stole the name from a hard working company working on green initiatives) is supposed to be revenue neutral but how much is it really going to cost Canadians?

This election is about leadership. The Conservatives are the only party that has it. My vote will be simple.


Mike S
said

I see that the Liberals are being accused of having a "hidden" agenda. Remember Mr Harper with his promises and breaking them? How many broken promises do PC supporters need before they realize the true agenda of Harper? How much more do we want the country to be in debt and how much more do we want our education and medicare to suffer?

Terry from Sherbrooke
said

Attack ads are nothing more than a smokescreen to hide a party's failure to deal with, and promote, concrete ideas and platforms on the issues that affect Canadians the most. If this is all Harper can do, then this is all Canadians will get. It reminds me of a broken steam locomotive.....it can produce lots of smoke but can't go anywhere.

Somebody needs to tell these campaign strategist that Canadians are not so naive as to place much stock in attack ads.

The party that spends most of its time promoting its platform on the issues that affect my life as a Canadian will be the party that gets my vote.




T
said

Harper, yesterday, said himself that he expects a 'nasty' campaign. His first campaign promise, I think, and the first promise he will probably not break.

Harper has no plan but to attack the Liberals for their forward thinking.


Alan from Sask.
said

Since when is telling the truth considered to be an attack ad? Should Harper be politically correct and lie to Canadians and not tell the truth when it comes to Dion and his plans to increase taxes? I think not.


Henry Wysmulek
said

The Liberals can blow all the smoke they want, but there are still only two ways governments can increase their revenues: raise taxes or cut spending.

Surpluses usually mean we are being GOUGED by taxes!



R/H
said

Reading the obvious Liberal postings here only confirms that they, the Liberals, are scared. Really scared! They have NO platform for ordinary Canadians unless you call increasing taxes a Platform! I am on a FIXED Pension and know that if Dion and cohorts should (God forbid) be elected as a minority government I will be in DEEP financial trouble. No thanks Dion. Go back to your professor job or whatever you had before.


Gail
said

Exposing the fine print of your opponent's policies is not an attack, but merely pointing out the obvious to those voters who have a need to know before voting. We turfed out the Liberals because they felt they were entitled to their entitlements. The stolen Adscam monies were never fully recovered. Whatever the Liberals are offering, I won't be buying. The marxist/socialist costs are too high. Promises made were promises kept by the Conservatives. They have a record to stand on.


D
said

Hello from one of those "lazy maritimers" as Mr. Harper put it once. This lazy maritimer is a paid professional who lived/worked in western Canada (great people there too)and who came back home even though I was offered thousands to stay. I just like our laidback/stress free lifestyle not to mention the beaches and ocean. My concern like many Canadians is Mr. Harper's controlling attitude towards the media/his cabinet...NO openness and accountability there!! The Liberals simply need a better leader so I'm voting NDP hoping to keep a rein on Mr. Harper's control!! Just my opinion!!


Ian Ottawa
said

Chad. If the Conservatives do not win then you and everyone else will have your wish. I am sure that what the Liberals did to us the last time will only be a drop in the bucket compared to what they would do if they got in again.


Don
said

Another broken promise.

STEPHEN HARPER CAN"T BE TRUSTED.

That's it and that's all.


Ari
said

The Liberal Party platform is a single issue one - Green Shift - but it's more complex than that and it really has a hidden agenda. It's like the Robin Hood of modern times: grab the money from the business people and those who work the most and create jobs and opportunities for all Canadians. Then redistribute the wealth to those who prefer to stay on social assistance and not work hard.

Enough with those socialist ideas and platforms. Let the free market go its way as this is what brought this country to where it is now. The state should only serve as a regulator and stay out of the way of the individual's free initiative and hard work.

Honestly I don't see any difference between the NDP and the Liberals today as the Liberals have gone dangerously left with their policies and ideas.

I am very sure that the Conservatives will run a model campaign in this election. Don't worry about the negativity as it is all part of game. In the end you have to portray your opponent as he is.

Lastly, I am very surprised that the Grits are not ready for the election... Weren't they the ones who have been screaming for more than a year that they will bring the Government down any moment? ...What hypocrisy.


Rawror
said

Unbelievable...

What a joke the Conservatives are in this election!

Instead of trying to scare people and attack Dion, they should be trying to come up with decent policies for the future of Canada. They think this election will be won on leadership. Well, leadership means telling us what you stand for and what policies you have. Not what a great dad you are and how warm and fuzzy you want to look in front of the camera.


Lloyd
said

The hapless Dion Liberals seem to be falling into one Conservative trap after another. Dion's many problems include his being so in love with Kyoto that he is floating a complex, scary European-style tax grab.To sell it they try income tax cuts. Meanwhile they come off as loving the GST almost as much as Brian Mulroney did. Harper's GST cuts were clearly a gimmick, followed by calls for more GST-PST harmonization. But they did keep their word unlike Chretien who once promised to abolish the GST and rejig NAFTA or something. I can't warm to either Dion or Harper and don't know who to vote for at the moment.But the Dion Liberals are clearly in big trouble. You just wonder if whoever picks up the pieces of the Liberal Party after Oct. 14 will have less of a tin ear when it comes to the electorate.


Alex Nelson
said

The carbon tax on consumers is a bad idea because we have to buy these products that consume fossil fuels. It hurts consumers for being dependant on fossil fuels instead of changing the structures in place that depend on them and finding alternative long term solutions in green energy sources.

This is the major reason I'm leaning Conservative! I don't wanna pay more for everything like food, gas, and public transportation!


NJam101
said

It is just so obvious that Harper's advisers and ad designers are the same people who worked for Mike Harris in Ontario - nothing original but the same old style of attacks and running campaigns on negativity. The attack ads are very misleading, tacky and use ridiculous one-liners. NONE of the Conservatives' ads have discussed policy and issues which is very frightening. They are trying to distract our minds from their own mistakes and lies. Don't forget what happened in the last two and a half years....the appointment of unelected Michael Fortier to the Senate and a cabinet position (that's real Senate reform!!), David Emerson switching parties less than a week after being elected, taxing income trusts, many flip-flops and policy changes on climate change plans, the Cadman affair, the Maxime Bernier affair with secure documents, how they handled Maple Leaf meat scare, huge record profits for oil companies which took more out of our pockets than any tax cut and the list goes on.... But think about it: If Harper is such a wonderful and secure leader, why did he spend so much time attacking the leader of the opposition instead of doing his job and GOVERNING?


We know who pays for Strategic Counsel Polls
said

The point about the price of gasoline going up .70/L is that a large chunk of that is still for taxes. This government could have distributed more of the tax collected to the cities for rapid transit or to "green" investment... but they couldn't because they wasted all the surpluses on a lot of questionable military expenditures.

If our role in Afghanistan hadn't morphed into what it is now - predominantly a combat role - we wouldn't need to waste so much on the types of equipment that have been purchased in the past three years. Need I mention that much of it wasn't tendered? I wonder which Conservative friendly defence companies got those contracts, eh?

The only reason Harper hasn't been able to get away with the Reform's right-wing agenda is precisely because they've had a MINORITY govt! 60% of the country does not agree with Harper. (Btw - anyone else notice how the Strategic Counsel's polls always tend to be skewed to the Reform/Conservative Party's favour - whenever there's a poll which shows the Reform party in a bit of a downturn they're quick to come back with a counter-poll of some sort.)
I guess they're trying to convince everyone that it's going to be a Reform majority so people will just vote along with their poll. They guessed wrong.


Steve Huffman
said

These ads are right on the money!!! The Liberal record of gov'ts past says it all. Canada needs to give Stephen Harper the majority he deserves.............


Chad Mackiddie
said

I think Elizabeth May said it best: "This it the time for Canadians to VOTE!" Just don't vote Green LOL. These attack Ad's and slandering remind me of when we were all in Highschool. SO STEP IT UP, RUN A CLEAN CAMPAIGN AND FOCCUS YOUR TIME AND MONEY ON THE ISSUES! Also I would be 100% ok with paying a bit more taxes if it meant we could get the conservatives out of power!


Rick in NB
said

The Conservatives are the only party that is not trying to be green this election campaign.
This doesn't sound like a very good start.
Posters from every party have commented on their concern for environment, but Harper must not see it. I don't think he knows the people's wishes or cares to.
I would like to see everyone question Harper about his lack of concern on environmental issues in the election. Who many lies is he prepared to tell during the campaign?


RantMan
said

5311111

Canada is buying Chinook TRANSPORT helicopters. We rented/ leased a few dozen used Leopard II tanks; they have already saved lives in Afghanistan. As for the JSF program, to replace the CF-18s in the year 2020: Canada has been involved since 1997 - do you recall who the PM was then?


J Lamey
said

Harper is a constant threat. He will run the most personal attack ads of the campaign, because he is not a nice guy. His ads toward women and his attacks on Dion don't line up. Why should we believe anything he says anyway? He has a proven history of lies: Atlantic Accord, Income Trusts, Fixed Elections, Accountability, Nominating Senators, Stealing MPs.... Should I continue?


Concerned Canadian
said

I fully agree that any ad's which target and attack a candidate on any of their personal issues should be kept out of the mix. But to clearly expose political agendas and policies of a competing party should be clearly and publicly addressed. Isn't that what a multi-party government is all about? What the Tories have done in this particular ad is not some empty and petty "attack". Rather it is a blunt statement of fact. The last thing our country needs in these uncertain times is the hidden policies and fiscally dangerous agendas of a Dion government. He is an economic catastrophe looking for a chance to happen.


Dale Wilson
said

What is negative about showing the actual costs to folks like me with children, a mortgage and a car (nice little low emission Honda Civic by the way) payments? ...Saying that they'll make the big corporations pay means that YOU AND I are going to pay...and through the nose. Give the money back in lower taxes? If you believe that...I've got some nice oceanfront property in Saskatoon you might like.


Rob
said

Give me a break.... you think the Conservative gov't is to blame for the price of gas at the pump??? Sure, why not just subsidize it like Mexico and Venezuela? In Israel they're paying $8.25 per gallon.... did the Conservatives force the price up in Israel too??? Remember, although we're all paying more at the pump, the country is pulling in higher oil royalty revenues... and spending it on social/infrastructure programs...so pipe down. I just can't believe how weak the opposition is. At least give us an "educated guess".


Marcel
said

So much for the PM promise yesterday of being positive during the entire campaign. If the PM and the Conservatives use negative attack adds during the next five weeks, the Canadian public will have a big surprise in store for the PM and his party on October 14. Thank you.


LDL
said

To stay on topic, election campaigns are always negative, it's just the degree of negativity. Ontarians will remember the Conservatives calling McGuinty an "evil kitten eater from outer space" or something like that. Now that was negative. Pointing out the policy weakness of your opponent is hardly negative. Note to all parties: Suck it up and take your punches.
Now off topic, a poster talked about what Harper could do with his daycare money to parents. I'd be grateful if I were you. Millions of Canadians like myself got squat. We just assumed having kids was our own responsibility, not the taxpayers'.


Roadrobber
said

Hmmm...the Liberals state that Stephen Harper has "allowed" the price of gas to go up 70 cents a litre since he came to power. Anyone with a brain realizes gas prices are largely beyond the power of the government in a free market. If that's the best the Liberals have in their election arsenal, they're in big trouble.


Jim
said

The ads are informational not "attack". Dion has no business being in the kitchen if he can't take the heat. The Liberals still hold the "sleaziest ad of all time award" with their "Troops in Our Cities" nonsense.


DCR-Toronto
said

Universal child care eh? I cannot believe that some people want to have the government raise their kids. My tax dollars are not paid so other people's kids can be taken care of.
The Liberal brand is drying up fast. People do not want huge social programs that suck this country dry.

Steve
said

Hey, 531111, can you please define what it means for the military to be exclusively "peacekeeping"? What if those we want to keep at "peace" decide they are going to shoot at us? Are we allowed to shoot back? Or do we just stick a flower in the barrel of their gun and hope we can all get along and sing kumbaya? Peacekeeping is a wishy-washy word that, in the harsh reality of the world, means that we rely on the larger militaries of the world (like those big bad Americans we love to hate) to do the heavy lifting, and we ride on their coat-tails and take the easy stuff. Is that what we want Canada to be known as?


Robert
said

Since when is educating people about Liberal policies known as attack ads? Seriously people, man up, be adults.

The whole culture of everyone getting a trophy so no one feels hurt is gutting this country.




joe
said

Like some readers say, open your eyes! Open them. Not one Liberal has mentioned increasing GST. Their platform states no GST increase. Read all the party platforms before you open you mouth. It is about time you old folks start thinking about what kind of world you are leaving behind to your children, grandchildren and great grand children.


Bernadette, Windsor
said

Adds are precisely what the Liberals are all about. The way Dion has flip-flopped on his "GREEN SHIFT" is very scary. He is desperate and has a hidden agenda that will cheat all Canadians by increasing taxes like the Liberals did for the 13 years they where in power. This time Canadians should know what Liberals are all about. Anything they promise is never delivered. Canadians don't want to get burned again. Thirteen years was enough of the Liberals' broken promises.


Kevin
said

Come on people, it is not an "attack" ad when it is expressing a grave concern about the policy of a leader and party. It is an "attack" ad when you focus on the personal character of an individual, running fear mongering ads to instill hatred of an individual.


Andy Hawkins
said

I for one am sick and tired of MP's spending all their time telling us how bad the other guy is. They should focus on telling us how good they themselves are.

I see atack ads, from any party, as a sign that they do not have a good enough plan or agenda of their own to stand behind and that they have to result to the lowest form of politics in order to get our attention.

Mind you, being a politician is still the only job I know where you turn up for the interview, tell your employer that you can do all these things and then get to keep your job when it comes out that you can't, or simply don't want to do the things that got you the gig in the first place.


531111
said

Who cares anymore anyways. If the Conservatives get back in power, I will never pay taxes again. I will not pay to support a military we do not need. We need the military the way it used to be doing peace keeping roles and defending our country here at home. We don't need attack helicopters or tanks with all the bells and whistles or fighter jets that rival the USA's. They are just not needed. I urge all Canadians that feel the same to do as I will. What are they gonna do, throw 2/3 of all Canadians in jail for not paying their taxes to fund bad programs. I really can't wait for the economy to turn south and all these middle class Conservative supportors to start losing their homes and not having enough money to feed your families. With no social network to back you up, you can just go live in the streets. Hold on, Flahrety said it should be illegal to live in the streets when finance minister of Ontario.

Robert White
said

Am I missing something? How is "plans to increase the GST, take the $1,200 child care payment away from parents, and impose a permanent new carbon tax," a personal attack? sounds like a policy attack to me.


Steve
said

Harper can shove his lousy 100 bucks for kids under six. I would take universal daycare anyday.the 100 bucks I received went on higher gas prices and higer food costs,clothing costs etc.Harper sat on his ass and did nothing for the Canadian people and the trucking industry.The higher the gas went the more the gov. received in taxes.ITS The lower and middle class Canadians who had to bear the brunt of Harpers inaction.


Sean from BC
said

Why is it when news outlets give views from all sides the Tory supporters call them bias?


Margo
said

Mr Dion , no way. He has a hidden agenda and I do not trust him nor his party. NDP, forget them. So lets stay the course and keep the Consevatives in, hopefully to a majority. I am tired of the whining of Mr Dion and Layton. Can you imagine either one of these 2 as P.M.? I shudder.


Margaret
said

Why would anyone want to vote for a person who contradicts himself on day 1?

This is worse than schoolboy antics at recess. Children can and do behave better than Steven Harper. They can get a team together and have a good game without adult supervision.


Smitherenzes
said

Negative personal attack ads? I don't see them.

To identify your opponent's weakness in their platform is not a personal attack. To raise concerns over the their agenda is not negative.

It is information dissemination.

Saying Steven Harper was going to put military troops in the streets with guns, thats a negative personal attack.

Be clear people.



Earl Robert
said

Prime Minister Harper took part of the liberals budget surplus to reduce our debt payments. That's your money and we have to reduce our outstanding debt. Tax payers shouldn’t have to pay interest on debts. Surplus's are used for political reasons and the Liberals are good at doing that. Let's stay the course and continue to reduce the debt. Prime Minister Harper is the man for the job!


PrairieDog
said

These ads are completely fair game. They are not personal attack ads. The Liberals are the ones who like to fabricate propaganda ads. Basically saying that Harper would impose martial law in Canada if elected. sheesh. I remembering Dion saying that it will be HIS choice when an election comes. And politics is like fishing...have to strike when the time is right. Right now Dion is lookin like the fish on the hook, not the angler. Soon he will be the fish out of water. Go Harper and do all you can to make sure the Liberals are crushed into third or fourth place. The left is scared...and they should be.


Jimmy B (Perth Ont.)
said

Stephen Harper is doing no more than any other politician would in his attack ads. The fact of the matter is, the Liberals have very little to attack Harper about. The proposed carbon tax will sink the Liberal ship. Don't try to convince Canadians that it is revenue neutral. One only has to do the math to figure it out. Besides that, even if it were revenue neutral, by it's very nature you have to pay the tax upfront everyday only to get some back at tax time. We need cash flow as Canadians just like any upstart company. As for Dion denying he would not raise taxes, one only has to remember Mr. Trudeau campaigning on the fact that he would not bring in wage and price controls only to do so shortly after being elected.


Andy in Cambridge
said

To 531111:

"Hold on a minute here. Is this the same PM that catagorically said to the Canadian public yesterday morning in his speech that these types of personal attack ads wouldn't be running. Yes it is and AGAIN another broken promise on day 1"

I really don't get how you see these ads as a personal attack, the Tories are attacking Dion's policies, like the possible GST increase, and the "Green Shift". I don't see anything personal in that at all

Sounds to me like all you Liberal supporters are running a little scared, cause you know Harper will take this election easily




Dave
said

"This is a government that spent us right up to the edge of deficit,"

By definition, having a balanced budget means that you spend up to the edge of a deficit, not run "surprise" multi-billion dollar surpluses like Paul Martin did.

Ignatief is too smart not to know this, which means that this is the usual fear mongering that the Liberals use every time they face the Conservatives.

What this means, is that the Conservatives have done a better job with the budget in their first two years than the Liberals did in the past 4 governments.

Don't forget that just south of the border, they are running record deficits, and we're breaking even under similar economic circumstances.

A job well done, I would say.


CindyJ, Ontario
said

I am just an ordinary person trying to get along. I own a condo on the border of GTA/Richmond Hill. I checked out the Liberals website/ Green shift and found that I would get $53 monthly. Then I started to calculate the other costs. We know that this carbon tax will be passed on to the consumers so higher gas prices, higher energy costs which in my case means higher condo fees, higher food costs, clothing etc. With all these highers costs there will be inflationary pressures and interest rates will increase. For every 1% increase my mortgage increases $100 monthly. Adding this all up realistically under this plan I would be paying $200 to $300 more monthly. I would not be able to keep my home. Mike Duffy, MDL, raised the question last night and Brian Tobin tap danced around it. I implore anyone who is reading this not to vote Liberal. If you cannot vote Conservative vote NDP.


James in New Brunswick
said

At least the campaign will be mercifully brief!

I, for one, would like to see M. Dion explain the second and third order effects and how it will NOT end up coming out of consumer wallets. I don't think he, or anyone else can.

Also, I'd like to hear what he thinks the effect will be on oil and gas exploration and development in Canada and what that will do to overall revenues generated by the Green Shift.

I'm not particularly happy with any of the political parties. The Conservatives campaigned in the last election for transparency and accountability and it doesn't seem to have happened. The Liberals still seem to have the attitude that "just give us your money; we know best how to spend it for the good of all Canadians". The NDP and Green Party haven't really put forward any concrete platforms yet.


DRH
said

To Robert: What do expect them to do - praise the Liberals for their tax grab policy, raise the GST and take away the $1300.00 in child care benefits? Come on people. Start opening your eyes and look at who you want to represent YOUR country!


Yoyoma
said

"Attack ads" are misunderstood. For example, you'd think that the ad was saying that "even though Dion has a dog named Kyoto, his utility bills are five times that of the average Canadian."

Instead these ads are really telling us that, indeed, Dion would take away the $100 per month for each child under six, and that he'd put the carbon tax into place, etc.

There's notihng wrong with taking out an ad and exposing your rival's less popular but documented faults.


Another bad idea from Dion
said

The problem with the Liberal socialists led by Dion, Rae and Ignatieff is that they try to convince Canadians through fear mongering that we have a problem. Then they try to present their own socialist solutions. Most Canadians aren't falling for that trick this time.

The fact is that Canada's economy is doing better than most. We have a couple of sectors feeling the pinch but overall we are doing well by comparison with the G8 and others.

Environment issues are being worked out domestically. For the first time ever Canada has policies to reduce GHG. Dion as environment minister did NOTHING - and we think he will do something now??

Dion, Rae and Ignatieff are smoking bad weed if they think Canadians want higher taxes and all the new bureaucratic red tape to administer their socialist "Green Shift" tax plan.

As for "Revenue neutral" it cannot be possible because it would cost millions and millions in bureaucracy to administer it. Green Shift is another Liberal bad idea that Canadians can't afford.







Mike R.
said

I find that the way the media handles its news stories in the heat of an election is very interesting.

The media is supposed to be unbiased. I have seen no unbiased story yet from any media outlet. Sad.


James T. from Parts Unknown, Saskatchewan.
said

Dion is also a threat to Canadian federalism. By threatening to steal The West's oil money with the NEP II, or carbon tax, or whatever they're calling it today, he's promoting Western seperatism. What he doesn't realize is that it's not 1980 anymore. The Buggles aren't still cutting records, Rubik's Cube is no longer the number one toy and the NEP is dead as Trudeau. Good riddance to bad rubbish!


Gary
said

Of course the Consevative Gov't spends tax payers money and they were right in spending the liberals buget surplus..it's what you are suppose to do with tax payers money..spend it on things like a military that had become the butt of jokes amongst our allies while under a Liberal Gov't..but not spend it on corporate and social welfare hand out programs. Budget surplus's do not necessarily equate to good gov't but rather over taxation if those surplus's are only used for purely political reasons which was what the Liberals always seem to be about when in office


Stay the course
said

The Government has made solid progress in just two years and a Liberal socialist government run by Dion, Rae and Ignatieff with their heavy tax and spend "Green Shift" program would wipe those gains out for all Canadians.

Canadians are just NOT prepared to take a risk on that trio. Steady as she goes with Mr. Harper.




Robert
said

Didn't Harper say just yesterday that they wouldn't go negative?


Steve in Fredericton
said

Enough of telling Canadians that they won't attack their political opponants with negative ads and then running scathing personal attack ads in the media!

If we're going to play "hardball politics" for this election (and I think the vying parties should), then let's be staight with each other and come out swinging. last leader standing wins.

I like Harper's chances. In a personal debate he will make Dion, Inatieff, Ray, and any other Liberal (or NDP for that matter) look like stuttering fools.

GO STEVE! GIVE 'EM HELL!


531111
said

Hold on a minute here. Is this the same PM that catagorically said to the Canadian public yesterday morning in his speech that these types of personal attack ads wouldn't be running. Yes it is and AGAIN another broken promise on day 1.And this guy wants you to vote for him. Now the Conservative posters will say "Well they are doing it to him" which is true, but he told us distinctly he wasn't going to do it.

Mike Webster
said

The ads are right. Dion and the Liberals have a thinly veiled hidden agenda to hike our taxes and redistribute wealth between individuals and Canadians. They call it a "Green shift" but in reality its one of the largest tax grabs in Canadian history. Couple that with their plan to hike the GST and it's economic disaster for all of us.


Concerned Voter
said

You Would think all this time spent on creating attack ads, politicians and friends can come together and spend time creating new policies that will help Better Canada.


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