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A fleur-de-lis is seen on the flag for the province of Quebec Gerard Bouchard, co-chairman of the Bouchard-Taylor commission, begins the first session of the commission looking into  Quebec's cultural accommodation in Gatineau, Que. on Sept. 10, 2007. (CP / Fred Chartrand) Jean Paul Perreault, president of the French language lobby group Imperatif Francais, said immigrants should not expect financial success in Quebec if they can't speak the local language. Fo Niemi, co-founder of the Centre for Research-Action on Race Relations, speaks with Canada AM from CTV studios in Montreal on Tuesday Sept. 11, 2007.

Immigrants source of enrichment to Quebec: group

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Date: Tue. Sep. 11 2007 6:34 PM ET

A collective of university professionals has told a Quebec panel studying reasonable accommodation for immigrants that the group is a source of enrichment to the province.

However, the group of 12 is also asking that rules concerning accommodation be made clear.

The comments come on the second day of hearings launched in an effort to determine how immigrants should be integrated into Quebec society.

In a brief presented to the commission, the university professionals said there should be no confusion between uneasiness about practices to accommodate immigrants and overall uneasiness about immigration.

The first public meeting on the issue was held Monday night in Gatineau and continued there today.

Hearings are being headed by philosopher Charles Taylor and sociologist Gerard Bouchard, the brother of former premier Lucien Bouchard.

About 120 people attended the first hearing Monday and many were turned away at the door. During the meeting, the reasonable accommodation debate covered issues pertaining to Muslims, Jews, gays, anglophones, evangelical Christians and immigrants.

Some of the participants spoke uneasily about immigrants and granting them too much religious freedom -- especially when related to Islam.

"Demanding that women be kept out of sight of men is negating our value," said one woman.

Another participant went even further, saying "the only way to restore peace and harmony in Quebec is to ban religious accommodation."

Bouchard politely replied that such a ban would be legally difficult.

"What you're asking for is a Charter amendment, because it protects religious rights," he said.

Jean Paul Perreault, president of the French language lobby group Imperatif Francais, said immigrants should not expect financial success in Quebec if they can't speak the local language.

"Don't even think of doing a career in Quebec without speaking French," he said.

When later asked by CTV News to elaborate, Perreault replied: "We need immigrants who will choose to learn French, work in French, speak French -- without losing their original culture."

The number of visible minorities attending the meeting was low, and will likely remain so until the end of November when the hearings reach Montreal -- the city has the highest concentration of immigrants in the province.

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Fo Niemi, co-founder of the Centre for Research-Action on Race Relations, says he fears the commission could divide Quebec society along religious, cultural and racial lines.

"It's been expanded to include people of the Jewish faith and people in the Sikh faith and eventually who knows who's next," Niemi told CTV's Canada AM on Tuesday.

Niemi's concern about the outcome of the hearings is also shared by other critics of the reasonable accommodation hearings.

"This kind of forum will add more to Islamophobia and will fan the flames of racism within the province," Salam Elmenyawi, president of the Muslim Council of Montreal told The Globe and Mail.

Experts on Quebec identity and religion and immigrants and representatives from various cultural communities will voice their opinions at scheduled hearings over the next 30 days.

Seventeen hearings are set to take place in urban and rural communities across the province.

The hearings were introduced by Quebec Premier Jean Charest last winter.

A debate was sparked earlier this year when a YWCA installed frosted windows to accommodate ultra-Orthodox Jews who had complained that youth were being exposed to women in workout clothes.

The topics of voting while wearing a face covering as well as the banning of hijabs in sports competitions have also generated much controversy and debate in the province.

With a report from CTV Montreal and files from The Canadian Press

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JTJ
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Born in Hull and growing up here for the most part, I can see why the other provinces don't like the way quebecers do their business when it comes to something that may affect "their Nation"...

Give me a break already. This commission will cost Gatineau tax payers some 5 million $ thus making our taxes jump again for the 6th year in a row. Way to go, how can this "Nation" survive on it's own may I ask!!!


Alex
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I agree with Doug completely. I am an immigrant myself and I believe that people should adhere to the ways of the country they immigrate to. Take it or leave it.


Mark
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Secularism is not the answer to all society's ills. Religious faith is part and parcel of who many people are. It motivates them to good and just actions, such as caring for the poor, speaking out against injustice, and challenging inquities in society. Neither is erasing differences between people. What we need is knowledge of one another to break down the fear and the barriers it builds. If those who want to erase religion from society, are, say willing to give up Christmas, the holidays from work and all the merrymaking this year, I'd take them seriously!


steve
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I don't understand why this is an issue in Canada when we are in foreign countries fighting for democracy and civic freedoms.. yet we can't sustain the same practices that we are preaching. It emphasizes that Canadians have no idea what were fighting for in foreign countries. Let's fix our own homeland issues i.e. Native Rights, before we go out into the world telling other countries how to govern.


M.
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Re. "John",

Trudeau has very little to do with the bilingual/binational characteristic of our nation. Educate yourself by reading the Quebec Act (1774), the Constitutional Act (1791), the Act of the Union of the province of Canada (1840), and the Constitution (1867, formerly called the BNA Act). Trudeau was only recognizing what was already in place through constitutional law and precedent.

By the way, all are available in both official languages thanks to Pierre E. Trudeau.


Abe
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As a Hassidic Jew living near the YMCA referred to in this article, i wish to clarify that the YMCA agreed on a voluntary basis to frost the windows to prevent UNDERAGE boys from a nearby school dorm form being exposed to views of exercise clad women.
After some members of the Y complained a vote was taken amongst the members and the frosting was removed.
This a sample of a very friendly neighborly gesture that was overblown out of proportion by the sensation looking media.


Doug
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I find that we are a secular society and we should not be having this debate. If you want to maintain your specific ethnicity, do so where it is the norm. Accomodations must be made for the society you are entering, not society for you. When in Rome- do as the Romans do.

Good advice for everyone.


John
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Let's be really accomodating and settle the disputes with the first nations peoples, drop the language laws and speak English, especially when in English dominated parts of the country.

The amount of money wasted on bi-lingualism (thanks again Mr. Trudeau) is appalling.


Steve V
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These meetings are being held for one purpose, to hear what the people have to say in regards to reasonnable accomodations. We, as a society have the right to complaint in regards to a breach of liberties that stops us from doing things we have done for years now. These immigrants left their country for one reason, to find a better way of living. Right now, those asking for reasonable accomodations, are worsening OUR way of living, thus cutting services and wasting precious time, money and resources.

A D
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Another issue to divide Quebec? Who would have thought?


Devon K.
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People like Fo Niemi miss two very important facts when they say these hearings could divide the province. The first is that the province is already dividing along these lines due to these issues. Second is that people are already having this debate without any structure. It's a good idea for the people in a society to discuss where that society is going. In this multi-cultural nation we've decided on reasonable accomodation to immigrants. However, we've been poorly balancing this against reasonably accomodating the majority too. The issue of the YMCA is a very good example. The YMCA shouldn't have to frost its windows as they've done nothing wrong. Those not wishing to see women exercising like that should refrain from looking so as to accomodate them too.


D
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Hmmm, reasonable accommodation hearings in a province teeming with ethnic nationalists...this should be interesting.


Michael Kelly
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I believe that the feeling of bias is being created by governments... when a minority group or religious organization want to push their own agenda, the government is quick to open their wallets in the name of grants and if one complains why tax money or if a group is given more leeway the left pulls out the race card which ends the discussion.


Paul
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This is a perfect example of why "multiculturalism" does not work.


Denise
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What's next in Quebec, ethnic cleansing? I am a bilingual Quebecer and I am ashamed of my French Quebecer brothers and sisters and their attitudes towards anything different. It's okay for them to not understand, it's okay to disagree with someone's religion or "lifestyle", but you have to respect people (as long as they obey the laws and don't hurt anyone).


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