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A man is arrested in north Montreal after after youths allegedly ransacking businesses, setting fires and throwing rocks and bottles at police on Tuesday, June 16, 2009. Montreal riot officers cross the street in a group after after youths allegedly ransacked businesses, set fires and threw rocks and bottles at police in north Montreal on Tuesday, June 16, 2009. A fire burns on a north Montreal street after police and youths clashed on Tuesday, June 16, 2009.

Tensions between Montreal North's youth, police

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CTV Montreal: Rob Lurie reports on the clashes
Residents called police on Tuesday night, concerned about a group of youths in a park in Montreal North. Police arrived. Car windows were smashed and debris was lit on fire.

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Date: Wed. Jun. 17 2009 7:33 PM ET

Some residents of Montreal North are worried the neighbourhood's youth are relying on violence to express their frustrations with police, after a night of vandalism resulted in nine arrests.

"I'm worried that young people are developing a culture of violence against the police," Brunilda Reyes, a community spokesperson, told CTV Montreal in French. "We have to change that."

The Montreal borough has seen several violent protests since teenager Fredy Villanueva was fatally shot by police last August. During the latest bout of vandalism Tuesday night, businesses were damaged, fires were set, and police were pelted with bottles.

Youth worker Will Prosper said young people are concerned they have been the targets of racism. After Villanueva's death, politicians and law enforcement officials spoke about reaching out to Montreal North's youth, but Prosper said there has been little or no concrete action.

"The leaders have not listened to them," he said.

Most of the suspects arrested Tuesday night are in their twenties. They face a range of charges including assault with a weapon, assaulting a police officer, trespassing, vandalism and public mischief.

According to reports, police went to the park at about 10 p.m. in response to calls about fights in the area.

When they arrived the fight had broken up, but between 50 and 60 youths were in the park.

Officers stayed on the scene to observe the group, but eventually became the target -- with the group pelting the officers with bottles and rocks.

About 100 riot police were called in to clear the group, which then went on to cause damage to parked cars, businesses and a school in the area.

Const. Andre Leclerc told The Canadian Press on Wednesday that the group quickly broke out of the area around the park.

"The young people were going in the back alleys and the streets," Leclerc said. "They were damaging cars and houses and a school."

One officer was slightly injured in the melee while trying to arrest one of the suspects.

On Wednesday morning, Montreal Police Chief Yvan Delorme visited the scene of the Tuesday night confrontation -- a sign of the high level of concern about relations between police and residents in the area.

"The police are saying they know this is a hotbed, there are occasionally clashes with police and there's a high level of mistrust of police -- but also that they have a job to do and when there's a call about a disturbance they're going to go ahead and do their job," Lurie told CTV News Channel.

In Quebec City, provincial Public Security Minister Jacques Dupuis said a small group of agitators are responsible for the high tensions in north Montreal.

Dupuis vowed that police would not turn a blind eye but would continue to bring order to the area.

With a report by CTV Montreal's Rob Lurie

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wendell fields
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According to reports, police went to the park at about 10 p.m. in response to calls about fights in the area.

When they arrived the fight had broken up,
[that is, there was no fight when the police arrived at the park; "calls about fights" - plural; "the fight" - singular]
but between 50 and 60 youths were in the park.

Officers stayed on the scene to observe the group, but eventually became the target

[more like, there was no fight, police hung around to harass and threaten the kids and THEN "a fight broke out" in opposition to this]


Donna Thiel
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When I was a kid growing up, my parents taught me how to behave. They didn't put up with any crap. When my children were growing up, I taught them how to behave and did not put up with any crap. It seems like not all parents have the same values or power of will. Don't people have anything to do or any brains to do good things with? I always had lots to do like chores and other activities. And I read a lot. Please parents, take responsibility.


MADD
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Youths I say again youths kids , spare the rod spoil the child, this is happening all over Canada today, there are so many restrictions on parents now and how they should raise children this is but one result. WE the older generation are to blame for being friends with our children instead of being good parents.


DV88
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Turn the park into a detention centre. That should deter the nightly groupings.


Dana Taylor
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Don't just arrest them, throw them in jail for a consideable period of time. Not one person in this country should be throwing rocks or anything at anyone. These terrorists make our whole country look bad.


Josh
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There is a serious problem when a lot of kids are up to no good and unfortunatly the anti-riot police isn't always around to take care of thing. When someone dies from police defending themselves, the only people to blame are those who overwhelmed the police who had no choice but to defend themselves.


schpid
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Hey Jason,
read the whole article. The police did not just randomly show up. They were responding to a report of a fight in the park. The police were doing their job. When they got there the large group of people hanging out there gave in to the gang menatality and pulled the 'Oh we're so hard done by" routine and started throwing things at the police. A molitov cocktail isn't something you just whip up like McGiver. That shows pre-determination.


Silvia
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No Santi, my parents are also immigrants and we've had our share of discrimination but my brother and I never acted that way nor were we ever mixed up in gangs and we grew up in St-Michel. Our parents worked hard all their lives to provide for us and they always made sure we never got involved in things we weren't supposed to. I'm not saying yours didn't do the same but how many of these kids nowadays have parents who even pay the littlest attention or worry about what they're children are up to? While it is the parents' responsibilities to teach their children good values and respect they also need to put their foot down every once and a while and not allow for the kids to run the house. Don't say you don't have a choice because you ALWAYS have a choice in what you say and do. There is NO justification for behavior like this.


Edb
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To Pierre from Kelowna
Well said. Although I fear the thought police will be looking to meet with you and send you for some re-education.
ps. Some residents of Caledonia are so fed up with the race based "justice" handed out by the OPP they've formed an unarmed citizen's "militia" to protect citizens and property.
Because they have the misfortune of being white, the cries of racism will no doubt be quite loud.
Make no mistake Canada...
one law for "them" another law for "us".


MAL
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It isn't popular in our 'better' world, but in the past if you threw a bottle at a cop, you tended to get shot or wacked with a nightstick. I'm not sure that a few less 'individual rights' and a few more 'society rights' wouldn't be all that bad.


Bob
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Time to bring out water cannons in Mtl. North.
The ones causing these problems do not seem to understand law and order. Maybe they will understand freezing water at high pressure.
The ones arrested should be charged as adults and should also pay for that they have done. If they cannot afford it then their parents must pay.


Pierre from Kelowna
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To police haters and criminal apologists like Jason in O:

This time police are not at fault...the thugs are. Police were not harassing or intimidating anyone. They were responding to complaints of a fight in the park. They show up and there is a large group of youths -- where the fights are reported to have occurred -- standing in the park. What do you expect...police to leave right away? Of course not...they stay and monitor the situation as is absolutely reasonable when responding to a possible assault call. THEN, the thugs decide to attack the police.

Assuming the facts are at least semi-correct, then is is 100% the thugs fault and 0% the police's fault.

I'm the first one who believes that when police are at fault they should be punished severely...like a certain tazer incident in an airport. But most times they do a good job. In this case, it seems the police did nothing wrong.

Tired of thugs whining about how it's always everybody else's fault. Even more tired of people siding with thugs and bums!


Yahoo I'm a Conservative
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Lots of tough comments from people who I'm sure would be hiding in their basement if there was any trouble on their street.

It's not just a problem of poor parenting, but also a failed policy of multiculturalism, that lets people believe that it's acceptable to block highways and riot in parks over any little grievance.


DCI
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All the people arrested should be made to go back and clean up the mess.First, put them in shackles and chains. And then sent to, BOOT CAMP! Make their names and pictures public. Make the parents of these thugs acountable for their stupid ignorant children...


Jethrine
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Montreal vs Toronto ... Here we have the two extremes! Montrealers are very aggressive and Torontonians are laise fare. Can we have a happy medium? Toronto should be more aggressive at taking stands on issues that effect our City because they are just not being addressed by represenatives at any level of government.


Carolina from Oak Ridges
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Montrealers do the same thing when they win a hockey game.

I feel sorry for the cops though.


Alessandra
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Oh how I miss thou Montreal! Always so exciting! Le Belle Provence!


Mimi in Montreal - Nord
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I was actually waling in the area at about 7:20 that evening as I headed to Lester B. Pearson High School meeting (directly across the street from the Carignan Park). I can attest that there were a group of hoodlums lingering and looking for trouble. I had noticed a parked car which had it's back passenger window shattered, only to be distracted by another car driving onto the sidewalk and nearly running over a female pedestrian.
Having lived in this neighborhood since 1987, this conduct isn't out of the norm,... lately. As I headed back home just after 10pm, I noticed at least 15 police cruisers surrounding the park (which explained the sirens heard earlier). There were residents standing outside their homes, some shouting and swarms of teens having verbal exchange with the police. I then wondered when the heck I'm getting out of this neighborhood !
It almost seems like riotting has become the official pass time of a "select" few who can't grasp the concept of civility.
I feel the cops are losing control of our streets.
We definitely need to enforce tougher laws !


Jason in Ottawa
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So let me see if I understand this correctly: the police arrive in droves to a park where they killed a young man and stand around just innocently "observing", certainly not provoking anything or intimidating people into reacting and then suddenly out of the blue these young people just went 'crazy' and came after the police who then called the squad riot and that always diffuses a situation.

Wow, move over Iran, looks Quebec is cracking down on it's immigrant population using the police force to intimidate and even kill those who dare exercise their right to be in a park at night.

The actions and behaviors of these police officers smack of intimidation, incitement and harrassment.

To that community, my advice is as follows: LAWYER UP AND START SUING.


Pierre from Kelowna
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I'm tired of people (and I don't mean the posters on this board so far, others I just read on another board) being politically correct.

It's big bad police's fault. It's our fault for failing them socially. It's our fault for not giving them more money. It's our fault for not integrating them. It's our fault for not accepting them.

No...those out there throwing bottles and rocks are bums, criminals, and good for nothing thugs. Most of those causing trouble last night were not Caucasians (white), just as most of those involved the night the kid was shot were not Caucasians. There is a problem with Black and Latino gangs in Montreal North. People are being called racists for saying this...but it's true. There is a Black and Latino gang problem in Montreal North. Hence the tremendous increase in violence, drug trafficking, and theft in that area in the last decade. A severe crackdown is necessary...arrest the lot of them, dismantle the gangs, and deport all non-citizens involved. Not just for us White folks, but for all the honest and hard working Blacks and Latinos out there too terrified to speak up...the silent majority misrepresented by an ultraviolent minority.


JFC
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While this behaviour is not excusable it is no surprise. The police, be it RCMP, provincial or municipal, are out of control as well and Canada is becoming a police state, tazers and all.



Canada's regime has lost control to protestors.
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The regime has been destabilized. Quickly activate your Twitter. Many demonstrations are breaking out. This is it. Oh, my. Oh, my. Where's my vote?


Sherry Katrina
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There is no excuse for what they did - NO EXCUSE - they just wanted to steal and loot and obviously don't give a damn about the law. They do not deserve the rights and freedoms of law abiding citizens! I fully believe in "boot camp". They need the discipline they were obviously not taught. Many people are sick and tired of hearing that "it's not their fault - they're poor etc etc etc etc" There are many good people out there who have a hard life and manage to not only survive but don't go around stealing etc. It's time they take the blame for what they do and have to pay for it!!!!


Bob
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All of those arrested should have their names and photos published. It does not matter if they are young. If they can be arrested they can be made public. We have a right to know who these people are and what they look like.


Nail them to the wall,
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When are we going to stop all this stupid behavior?
Just a bunch of kids.......
Its time the police actually do thier job! Use the gas and the water cannons and the batons, teach them a lesson, DON'T TOUCH POLICE OFFICERS and stop breaking things that are not yours!


Santi Sanchez
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You need to understand that being an immigrant in an other country is really hard.we dont shoes to act this way but society makes us defend our self and thats the way they shoes to let you know that we are getting hurt and we have enough.I personally have a university degree and have an amazing Job but im also victim. i Drive a Lexus and because im immigrant i always get pull over just for check..im sorry but thats discrimination and it hurts.


josh
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if the police left them alone in the park, they probably would have just gone home.


Bill in BC
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The only cause is simple hooliganism. Charge them and make them financially responsible. If they're under age, make the parents pay the costs.
no more excuses for this crap!


Mike in Mtl-north
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The cause is probably recent crackdown and drugbusts. Youths don't just make Molotov cocktails for the fun of it, this is organized crime hiding under a mask. Go police go, protect my beautiful neighbourhood.


ComposMentis in Vancouver
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I grew up in that part of town in the 80s and early nineties. It was a great, quiet place to raise a family. As I became a teenager, the demographics began to change. It soon became unsafe to take the bus and us white kids became the target of swarmings. This simply encouraged more of us to move away and now you have the lawlessness and crime that you see today. This has nothing to do with poverty and everything to do with poor parenting.


Layton in Moncton
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What the hell was the cause, the actual cause? Were there picket signs? This is bizarre.


Fred - Brandon MB
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Oh, how I miss living in Montreal. There's always something going on


jacob smith
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hopefully these kids are just let back into the streets the next day.. make them do some time.


TC in BC
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So how many more victims of crime are there after this spree? There is no excuse for the behaviour of the thugs at these riots and I hope the judges deal with them harshly.


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