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Family of slain Mtl. teen calls for end of riots
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Date: Fri. Aug. 15 2008 7:18 PM ET
Family members of a Montreal teen shot to death in a police altercation say they don't want anymore violent protests, but they do want answers from authorities about why such extreme measures were taken.
Fredy Villanueva, 18, was laid to rest Thursday, five days after he was shot in a park while hanging out with his brother Dany and a group of teens.
A coroner determined that he was shot three times and that two of the bullets hit vital organs in his rib cage and abdomen. The teen bled to death.
His death sparked a violent riot in Montreal North, a gritty, diverse neighbourhood where youth and police often clash. The police have been accused of racial profiling.
Fredy's sister Patricia told reporters at a news conference Friday that violence is what killed her brother and that she doesn't want it being used for vengeance.
"We thank everyone for supporting us but we want things to remain calm because violence leads to nothing," she said. "(The riots were) not something my family and I wanted, we never wanted violence."
She said though she is angry about the way her brother died, she wants to deal with it in different ways. The family called for a swift investigation into the actions of police the night her brother died.
"Why? This is what we want to know," she said, with her mother by her side. "Was it really necessary? A little boy who as just starting out his life. I'd like to be in his place. I've lived longer than him."
She said police should have called for reinforcement if they felt the situation stepped out of their control. She questioned the training of officers, saying they shouldn't feel like they have to pull out a gun to stabilize an escalating situation.
Montreal police say they were surrounded by a group of about 10 teens and that many of them rushed the officers. Two other youth were also wounded in the altercation and are in hospital recovering.
Human rights advocates are speaking regularly with the wounded men to make sure they retain counsel and that police do not attempt to speak with them without their lawyers present.
Patricia Villanueva raised her eyebrows when a reporter asked her about trust.
"Trust, big word eh? What can I say, as a family what we want is for police to be impartial and that it doesn't take centuries to find answers on the death of my brother."
The family also announced that there would be a radiothon on Saturday, Aug. 23 to help raise funds to help cover the cost of the funeral. Any excess money from the donations would go towards programs for youth in Montreal North, they said.
A bank account has been set up in Quebec for members of the public who want to make a donation but the account details were not immediately available.
Police ask for help
In the meantime, Montreal police have asked for the public's help to find those involved in last Sunday's riot and have released photos of a number of suspects.
The pictures show about 50 people allegedly looting a store in a northern Montreal community.
Police say that some were involved in Montreal's hockey riots in April and described them as "professional criminals and agitators."
Sgt. Ian LaFreniere told CTV Montreal that the rioters had little to do with the protest which was talking place.
Police used the same tactic when riots broke out during the Stanley Cup playoffs earlier this year. Police say they have gathered about 500 pictures from video surveillance cameras that were connected to businesses that were broken into and looted.
Gerard Tremblay, the mayor of Montreal also spoke to reporters Friday afternoon and said he is looking to "develop new approaches and solutions" with provincial and federal partners to help improve the sensitive situation in Montreal North.
"We have to step up our efforts," he said. "There wasn't just one factor that led to the events that took place on Sunday.
"There isn't one answer that will help, nor is there any cure," he continued. "What we need now is time, perseverance and most of all, political will."
He said regaining the confidence of the youth and "bringing them hope" is in essential part of the plan. He said social agencies need to have workers focused on the streets to help rebuild that trust.
"I am firmly committed to making a difference and improving the quality of life for residents of Montreal North while ensuring the safety of our population."
He said he is also doing what he can to ensure there is a full investigation into the matter to help restore public confidence in the police service.
"I've asked for a public investigation be made and that the results be made public as soon as possible," he said. "We will continue over the next few weeks to ensure that proces put in place yields concrete, transparent and impartial results."
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If there weren't so many people who hide their faces when committing violent acts then we wouldn't need a law forbidding masks. Unfortunately this is our society now. No one can hide their faces... we aren't special over here, violence has arrived and it is here to stay. Let's not kid ourselves. Violence just escalates to new levels. We've let this "hiding the faces" scenario go on far too long.
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brett from alberta
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All the bleading heart liberals out there. This "punk" got what was coming when he made the choice to attack a cop, thankfully he was stoped in his tracks along with the others or it would have been a real tradgedy.
Hugo
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Good judgment dude. Seriously, the Gestapo just loved it when people thought like that. The GRU too. And those cops who hit Richard Barnabé to death too! What about those cops who beat Rodney King? I am pretty sure they thought the same way and I am pretty sure that Stockwell Day would appreciate your comment. But man, get real. Go back to school and learn history. These kids are ostracized by a system that values what you earn over who you are. Hence they get into criminal life since you easily earn a lot in this type of business. Plus, playing dice in a park with friends should not equal in getting arrested without warrant. Much less should it rhyme with the death and injuries of UNARMED minors. I honestly don't know about any solutions to such a societal problem, but It would probably start with the police doing their job in a correct, respectful and diligent manner.
salazar
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Realistic
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You can't be sure of the outcome if you do anything else.
Rousting groups of teens does not usually result in any charges but it also does not usually result in death if the kids just "suck it up" and play nice.
It doesn't teach them a good lesson about police, but they live to see another day.
Sorry But
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Simple question:
Cop went to park and saw buch of punk sitting there, they called - hey punk come here!
Now tell me what do they expect!
They created a situation which they probablly don't know how to handle!
Lastly,
1. cops carry guns to deal with con mans not to shoot at public in parks.
2. cops are to enforce the law; not to impose the judgements, that's the responsibility of judicial system.
Concerned in Kingston
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18 yr. old criminal is "a man".
At the point of his death, he went from man to little boy...at least in the eyes of the media. As tragic as this is, and the resulting riots, the media has to take some responsibility in the outcome of this. But so does the community. The fact that people rioted immediately I think only supports the police in the actions they took the night he died. Bravo for the family to recognize that continued violence is not the issue. They have a right to answers and they have shown nothing but class in their loss.
alex anissimoff
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"If you charge or attack an armed man, there's a better than excellent chance you will be shot as the armed man can't allow his gun to be taken away and possibly used agaist him."
Nicky
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Linna in Ontario
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The police shot this young man THREE times, for what?
For. What? Was he waving a gun at them? threatening anyone with a knife? No. Fredy was unarmed and cooperating with police when he shot dead, multiple times. This is all we know for a fact at this point. My heart breaks for his family.
WC of BC
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Look what happened in Afghanistan when our soldiers had to shoot at a vehicle that wouldnt stop and they ended up killing two small children. Now those children were INOCENT. A mob of angry teens attacking police in a country of opportunity such as Canada NOW THAT IS A CHOICE.
Robert Coates
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It is a sad day indeed when anyone has to lose a family member before their time, but to have others then turn around and use that tragedy as an excuse to commit further crimes is in my eyes disgusting.
Perhaps both parties share equal blame. Perhaps the police are to blame, as well as the youth, or maybe it's the parents and our own(society) for letting these teens(legal adults)get into this kind of situation in the first place.
It is the police officers duty to enforce the law and follow procedure, not defend society and individuals. Instead of pointing fingers at the police or the youth as the rest of you seem content to do, how about we wait for the report to see if the police followed proper procedure. If your issue is with procedure, then you should be fighting the politicians not the police.
I'll leave my opinion of Stockwell Day out of this....
Sean
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Lil
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I am not saying that the police officers in question are wrong nor that they don't have the right to defend themselves. All I'm saying is that sometimes these "situations" are not always handled correctly - thus why an 18 year old kid is dead
And I say kid because at 18, you are still just a kid - you have not lived or experienced things that a 45 year old has.
bebe
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Ben
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Doug BC
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Yes,even a "punk" has the right to live.But not at the expense of other people's right to liberty and security.If you want to live,when a police officer tells you to do something,do it.If your rights were violated,you can argue about it later.At least you are alive.
And people who think police officers can kill anyone without remorse are simply idiots.They face more consequences than most can imagine.
The loss of anyone in an incident such as this is tragic.And even more-so when the person is so young.But,if there is violence on the streets,I want the police to come out on top every time.Our streets are there for every law abiding citizen in the country.
If you want to go on breathing,cut down on lifes risks.Don't drink and drive,don't smoke,eat right,and OBEY THE LAW AND THOSE HIRED TO ENFORCE THOSE LAW.Teach your kids to do the same.When the risk to safety rises,it's time to get your butt out of there.It is not time to challenge the police.They also have a right to live.And,unlike the rowdies,they do not have the option to flee the scene.
Put yourself in risky situations means you are willing to accept the consequences.
aa
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police is beyond reason. if an constable officer address and ask you a question you obey, not challenge their authority. it is sad nowadays that from all walks of life the likes of teenagers to a common even bus drivers etc...has no common civility like not so long ago, and this is the outcome.
lily
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Would i have the time to call a back up? No, I probably would've died by then.
And by the way, creating a riot after only prooves that the young people are on the guilty side.
Devil's advocate
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If I were surrounded by 10 angry teens (suddenly they're 10 and not 20), I would likely react a great deal differently then would two police officers. That is because they have been TRAINED to deal with various circumstances and it is doubtful that they are required to shoot in every given situation.
I am also fed up of many individuals referring to gangs and punks and those that almost go as far as saying that he got what was coming to him. That does not justify death! And for the individual that is tired of Fredy being referred to as a teenager...may I remind you that he was eigTEEN and although he is no longer a minor in the eyes of the law, he died at a very tender age and had much to live and experience.
I would recommend that we all wait patiently for the investigation into this tragedy to be completed and the report be released before any further judgements are passed on either party.
Chris
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It's what the rest of Canada expects out of Montreal.
RK
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Chris
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You need to stop watching police dramas on TV. Real cops don't shoot people in the leg, or fire a warning shot in the air. They are trained to shoot someone where there is the most surface area and will cause the attacker to stop in their tracks. That is the chest. What if they tried to shoot someone in the knee and missed, and then lost their own life because of it? Does that make sense?
And to Thierry:
How dare you say I have no heart. Just because I don't share your opinion means I have no heart? How bout this? Because you don't share MY view, I say you have no brain. Sounds pretty stupid doesn't it?
D in AB
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This is how soldiers AND police are trained, and rightly so. Life is not an action movie where you shoot a gun out of someone's hand. Hard reality, and I'm sorry the kid died.
montreal nord
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Thnk alot
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There is still an investigation to complete, so nobody should be at fault yet.
I have to side with the police on this, mainly for the fact that their there to serve & protect us. I respect what they do for a living.
I've been stopped by police on many occasions, and you have to remember to respect authority. Treat them with respect and they will treat you with the same respect. Start talking back and things will get difficult.
If a police officer is apprehending someone, would you jump in and try to stop the police?
Is the media is to blame then? Music these days ( rap in particular ) show no respect to police. I doubt these "youth" listen to country music.
Once again it's sad when life is lost and if the cops are in the wrong I hope that there dealt with properly.
Cops are supposed to stop people, question them if they feel they might pose a threat to society, who are you to interfere with their job?
Ask yourself that.
Chris from Calgary
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Every civilian whether they're green, yellow, blue, black, brown, or white is obliged to respond to verbal direction from Police Officers. People think they know their rights when they don't. When a person ignores verbal direction and graduates to what the Police Officer perceives is an imminent deadly force threat to him/herself or anyone else they will respond with deadly force. And by the way, Police Officers are never trained to wing 'em. They are always trained to hit center of mass, so, that Officer's shooting was right on as far as I'm concerned. It is an unfortunate situation that would not have occurred if Mr. Villanueva had followed the Officer's direction by the sounds of it.
Julie
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Brad
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Trent
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BCL
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Nicky
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Jim S
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Kathy
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Useurhead
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Zigatola
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The group mentality kicked in ..."Strength in numbers"... something they no doubt are used to and gave them the confidence to stand up to the police.
I often wonder how many Police officers see a situation like this and pretend they did not see it...knowing full well it is too dangerous.
So some people have commented that they should have called for backup...even the sister...that sounds like an admission that these people are aggressive and dangerous....
Balance
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John Nedohin
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Rick in NB
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This family immigrated from the Honduras during Fredy's education yet he managed to graduate from an educational institute by 18 years old or earlier. Our children have problems changing school districts let alone changing countries. Fredy's education should tell us he wanted a good life. The way his family is handling this tragedy should give us cause to think before we condemn Fredy. Yet most people prefer to handle this with a mob mentality. Again i ask you to let the investigation be released before you discover you have foot in mouth issues.
M.S. from Montreal
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Wake Up Call
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James
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COPS WERE PROVOKED, COPS SAID BACK OFF, PROVOKERS DIDN'T BACK OFF.
PEOPLE DON'T GET SHOT FOR NO REASON
Thierry
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2 WORDS . NO HEART .
Wake Up People
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Police just can't go out and create a situation out of nothing and decide to open fire. Even a punk has right to live.
Think about this, some punks were sitting outside a baseball/soccer/hockey game, cop decided to have fun knowing that the place has too many people/kids around. Everyone (specially kids) is interested what police is up to, and police seeing that many people don't know what to do, decides to open fire. Unfortunately, Your kid was playing nearby and gets shot. Now I would like to blame your kid for the mishap.
Without knowing the facts or presumption is ugly evil in the society. Lets wait for the report; it may change your opinion.
Jim
Terry
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think a little
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James in Ottawa
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Paul
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job
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Mack
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It is amazing how much un-warranted criticism the police take for doing their jobs. If the youths hadn't gotten in that big group fight, had approached the police like they were asked, and not surrounded the cops like a gang, then he'd probably be alive today.
Just don't put yourself in a situation where that can happen. It's all in the friends you keep.
Al
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