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Afghan Ambassador to Canada Jawed Ludin discusses the mission in Afghanistan on CTV News Channel from Ottawa, Monday, June 21, 2010.

Afghans would welcome Canadian training: ambassador

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Afghan Ambassador to Canada Jawed Ludin discusses the mission in Afghanistan on CTV News Channel from Ottawa, Monday, June 21, 2010.

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Afghan Ambassador to Canada Jawed Ludin discusses the mission in Afghanistan on CTV News Channel from Ottawa, Monday, June 21, 2010.

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Date: Mon. Jun. 21 2010 1:57 PM ET

Canadian soldiers would be welcome to stay on training local troops after their combat role ends in Afghanistan next year, Afghanistan's ambassador to Canada said Monday.

Jawed Ludin told CTV News Channel that with so many Canadians having given their lives for the freedom of Afghans, his country cannot ask them to make any further sacrifices.

But he said Afghan soldiers and police would appreciate and benefit from further training from the Canadians.

"Canada has done so much and Canadians have paid a cost that is sobering," said Ludin, pointing to the 148 Canadian soldiers who have died overseas in the past nine years.

"To expect that Canada should do more may sound a little immodest. However, I do believe Canadians have made a tremendous contribution and we would like Canada to stay."

While he said Canadians will decide what type of future involvement they want to have in Afghanistan, Ludin said the Canadian Forces have the capabilities to help make Afghan forces more self-sufficient in the future.

"Ultimately, we Afghans should be able to shoulder our own responsibilities," he said. "And for Canada to help us in that way would be extremely appreciated."

Ludin, a former chief-of-staff to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, is the latest figure to voice support for Canada taking on a non-combat role after it wraps up its military mission next year.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff, retired Canadian Forces major-general Lewis MacKenzie and various NATO officials are among those who have suggested Canada should take on a training role in Afghanistan after next year.

The Canadian government, however, is sticking to the agreement brokered in Parliament that will see Canadian Forces end their combat role in just over a year's time.

When Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Walter Natynczyk was asked recently about the possibility of providing such training services, he said the military would be abiding by the mandate given to it by Parliament.

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W in the GTA.
said

The Canadian Forces are already training the Afghan national army and Afghan national police. My understanding is that the mentors who are going on operations with the Afghan army and living with the Afghan police in their sub-stations are having the greatest influence. Literally having our people where the rubber meets the road is what is important. The actual mentoring happens by participating and observing. Having an opportunity to influence the operation is how we have been developing a growing army and police force.Similarly, I can train soldiers back here. Why would I want to deploy to a war zone for six to nine months and be confined to a camp without the prospect of observing the results of my work? Also whose area of operations would we be in and who would we depend on for security and medical coverage?If the CF is not going to be actively working to create a more secure environment then what is the point? The opposition forced the government to pick a quit date and now they want to use the war as part of a foreign policy agenda. Sending our soldiers over to do a little classroom work under the guise of contributing may seem like good PR, but no one outside of the press gallery will notice or care. It would be more cost effective to hire some contractors from Blackwater.I believe that our OMLT/POMLT should function as they are now with Canadian air assets and a national support element. If we are training the ANA/ANP then we should field with them as well.Lastly what is the recommendation for the provincial reconstruction team?


Carl
said

When the Liberals sent our troops into Afghanistan, they should have had a gameplan, consisting of one of the following: Either take out the Taliban government and leave immediately; OR stay in Afghanistan until the country is stabilized. Staying for nine years and then leaving before the job is done is the worst of both worlds. In my opinion, we should have killed as many Taliban as possible in the first month or so, then withdrawn. We could still use missiles to take out Taliban whenever they stick their heads up.


JPC near Regina
said

They've been training Afghan soldiers already, and rather well too, judging by the success of Operation Moshtarak...great job guys! If we don't leave behind a competant Afghan army, then history will repeat itself again...


John, Halifax, NS
said

I support them staying there, on their own dime. I'm done paying for nothing, NOTHING. And yes, our soldiers did die in vain, in fact worse than that, because we KNEW they'd die for nothing. So no, we shouldn't be staying anywhere near that country that doesn't allow women to say "no" without threat of starvation!


Slewhigh Yendick
said

We could send all the corrupt adscam liberals over there to train them how to properly run a democracy... I heard Cretian is nott too busy these days


Chris
said

No thanks! We gave enough!! Good bye!!!


anthony c.
said

No! you can not help people who don't want to be helped.


Doug # BC
said

It looks to this non expert,that BOTH political parties have painted themselves into a corner on this issue.By politicizing this war in previous debates,they both took such strong positions that they are now unable to deal with the world as is currently is. Liberals con't find a way to admit that Canada does have an important role to play in Afghanistan,and absolutely should stand with it's NATO allies.Conservatives,on the other hand, know this war is unpopular,and remember all to well the beating they took in Parliament when they extended the mission.Agreeing to stay has them worried that an election loss would surely follow that decision. We hate this war.The loss of Canadian lives is difficult.Especially in a nation that has so much, and has lived in relative peace for so long.But there are things in life that are difficult.That does not mena they should not be done.When the dust settles on this debate,I hope BOTH parties will put their personal and political animosities aside,and do what is right for our nation.And, believe me,I am convinced that BOTH parties know two things.One,that our CF is running short of equipment,and to many soldiers are doing to many tours.Our military is just to small to go on a lot longer.And,they also know that Canada must be seen to stand with it's NATO allies.The respect they have earned for Canada is beyond anything Parliamentarians could garner with thousands of speeches.It is being talked about on CNN in the USA,and it is being talked about on the BBC in Great Britain.Our troops are well respected and admired everywhere.I think Harper and Ignatieff do them a great dis-service by playing politics with this issue.Tone down the rhetoric and serve our troops,as well as they serve Canada. PRO PATRIA


Martin of NS
said

I think we should help out the Afghans in training military/police so that they can take care of their own security. Who best to police their country than their own citizens.


Dean in Abby
said

How much more training do these people need? How many years have we been over there. It's a thinly veiled way of saying "stay here and fight our fight for us". Forget it. No one seems serious about this place. If they were, there would not be any poppy fields left standing. No drugs, no warlords. Besides, these people are still tribal with , it would seem, no ambition to be anything other than that. Don't waste anymore of our young peoples' lives or our tax dollars on this fiasco. Different story if someone decides to do the right thing by eliminating the drug supply. I doubt that this will happen so then, it is a waste of lives and money.


Conservative Mike
said

I, for one, am speculating that the Conservatives are not "married" to the idea of staying in Afghanistan until Dec 2011. They are only saying that now because it is politically advantageous to do so. As we get closer to the pullout date, their rhetoric will change, especially if Taliban offenses across Afghanistan escalate, which they very likely will, as this Spring has already shown us. The idea of sticking around after 2011 and helping train Afghan police is an appealing one, but it would still leave a target on Canada's back. Islamic extremists like Al-Qaeda want us completely out of Afghanistan, not partially out. Remaining in Kandahar, even in a limited capacity, clearly states whose side we're on, and that is enough to keep Canada in the crosshairs of terrorists like Bin Laden, the Toronto 18, and those we don't know about yet...


Jim in the West
said

Staying to train the Afgan military and security forces is not a combat role, so I really don't understand all of the posturing by the government over this. The CF will end it's combat-oriented role in 2011, but that still leaves us lots of opportunities to continue to work we have begun there. I for one hope that my brethern didn't die in vain, and that we as Canadians continue to work towards a safe and viable Afghanistan.Strength & Honor, Faith and Fury


Supporter of our Armed Forces in Afghanistan
said

It is becoming apparent that there appears to be a growing consensus for the support of the idea that our Canadian soldiers remain in Afghanistan to train local troops after their combat role ends.However, as noted in this seem article, the "The Canadian government, however, is sticking to the agreement brokered in Parliament that will see Canadian Forces end their combat role in just over a year's time. " This seems wise given all the flack that took place a few years ago, when all parties agreed to the same timeline.However, things change and I for one, support the notion of an extended stay but it behooves the government, if they choose to move in this direction, to lay out the option to Parliament and ensure "everyone is on board" before making their final decision.

JB in Ontario
said

Training the Afghans by Canadians in a non combat role after 2011 seems like the right thing to do. We have lost many Canadian soldiers since 2002 and if we just up and left them, the work Canadians have done would be for nothing.


Brian in Nanaimo
said

Harper needs to work on a bill with Obama that would allow Canadian soldiers that want to keep fighting the ability to cross into the US Army. Honestly, does anyone really believe the Taliban will stop the attacks if Canada changes its role to a teacher? Don't worry the US will protect our soldiers.Pathetic.


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